EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I've been doing some reading and looking into things and I am thinking about starting up an east Texas militia. If I could get some people who are serious about it and would honestly be willing to be apart of it I think I will do so. Let me know what y'all think. This isn't a joke it will not be a discriminatory organization what so ever. I'd like to find three or four guys who could help organize and set some guidelines of the things we should and need to do for this.

Purpose?

I'm not looking to start a group of problems. I'm looking at having a group of citizens that can be trained to defend there families and their rights and still be able to be a citizen that has a full time job and can be home with their families each night but at the same time be willing to help their community and surrounding communities with any situation that may arise. 

I've read about other militias that are established throughout Texas and the things they are doing they train and prepare for things that could very well happen sooner or later. Doesn't mean it would ever happen but its better to be prepared with a plan of action and never need it that to need it and never have it.

sounds different but cool what races will be allowed in this organization

If it even happens there will not be a specific race allowed!!!

I don't know a lot about militias; my thoughts are, your efforts may be better spent finding "like" people and working with Representatives and Senators (Politicians) to get your voice heard.  I think there are a lot of good honest people out there that vote once every four years, but they don't know their impact after that.  A lot of bills and laws get passed because people don't know how they can argue.  I'm still not real clear on your intent so I could not support a militia myself, but I would support a group (kind of like lobbiest) that would help us common guys know what we could do to get our voices heard.  I feel sometimes like the common man doesn't know who to call and what to say when we know we are suppose to do something.  We don't act because we don't know how, it is not because we don't want to.  I hope all this makes sense...good luck with your cause.  That is the great thing about this county (freedom)!!

Militias gives you a bad view in the publics eye from the start.  I think your idea is in the right place we all need to be prepaired.

Yeah...a different name may be needed...lol. NOTHING good (that I know of) has come about concerning any organization with the word "Militia" in their name since the revolutionary war.

Then again....you can call it a kitty cat, but if it looks like a skunk and smells like a skunk....

I will train with you....

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Well how bout "tx home guard" instead of tx militia? As far as the bad rep militias hav, why not try n change it, stop the cycle with this group. Any member found representing the "unit" in a bad maner is ask to leave and not come back till they can get their stuff together. Run it similar to the the us military, but w/ o some of the dumb chit.

as far as paperwork in organization I would not be that guy. I do know that you can write it up as a non profit organization and be legitimate about it. maybe even grants. what I can help with is very personal reasons for me. I'm a veteran of the Marine Corps, father of 7, business owner and a martial artist I'm actually  doing Golden Gloves this year. I'm older so I will be in a Masters division lol.... not too long ago there was two rapes close to my neighborhood. I help organize self defense classes at a gym that I attend. . I can help with some hand to hand combat stuff but that would be it

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Like it Charles

That sounds good to me Charles

I think goin for a non profit org would b the best route if the group could get off the ground n get goin. I also think a group as this would need to hav a rank structure similar to the armed forces. Gainin support from the closed minded civi population would also a big challenge, a challenge greater than gainin political support. It would also take pencile pusher to handle paperwork n logistics.

I definetly agree Charles there does need to be a rank structure and I didnt intend on it being a profitable organization. And I think once the civi population sees and has a chance to understand what we are about we will have more support

U r correct, but 10 ad-a-boys can be wiped out by 1 oh chit. It takes many yrs to build a positive rep, but only takes a split sec to ruin it for all. To positively impact the civi pop n show the good of group, will require more than ole' joe snuffy off the street dayin "wow this looks cool, can i join?" A group of this nature cant be a bunch of camy wearin fat bearded drunks shootin up the local woods/gun range, but will require like minded military orriented personel to run things n lay down n enforce the rules n regs, n if need be, hand over the idiot to the local po-pos'. The biggest issue with a civilian para military group is, the limited ability of rule enforcement. With no fear of punishment, again, not just any1 should b allowed until an extensive overwatch has been completed. Wont b no room for wanna-be rambos. The best candidates would be former socom operators, retired mil, near spotless mil career if not retired, former/current leos, where their dept allows such partisipation in such groups.

Yes we definetly don't need wanna be Rambos and rules and regulations need to be enforced at all time there has to be guidelines that everyone in the group must follow or be removed as part of the group. And I also agree about the canidates being military involved past or present but at the same time not just strictly limited to that. I personally have never been military or public servant of any type but I have views and thoughts and I am a proud Texan and will always be. I think with enough planning and discussions we could organize this group and it be a success and a useful resource in many different ways. But for this to happen the rules and regs will have to be strictly enforced regardless the case.

I'm in. Keep me posted

We will keep everyone interested posted. This isn't gonna be something that starts up in a week.or two there are going to have to be a lot of things discussed and lined out before anything takes place. That being said if there are any thoughts ideas suggestions please voice them so that everything can be taken into consideration. But that being said let's keep it legitamete, rreasonable, and respectable. This will not turn into a bunch of rednecks getting drunk and shooting chit up!! And I mean no disrespect by saying rednecks just to be clear.

Depends on how "legitimate" you want it to be.

Back ground checks for candidates set at a certain tolerance would be a big plus. It would weed through the riff-raff.

Forming a board/command group....based off of the military sections (S1, S2...etc) would seemingly be a smart place to start. This initial command group should probably be responsible for outlining the groups "writ" if you will. In addition...the command, after the initial formation of the group should rotate through democratic elections. Revisions to the "writ" should be made when needed.

The list goes on and on.

I think that is a great idea Kevin.

I sec that kevin. In order to hav an orginization with a similarity to the state guard, it will all have to start with the foundation building blocks of former military personel with the paticular skill set needed to get the ball rollin.

If y'all need help training I have watched all the Rambo movies and red dawn

Haha! Good stuff!

your already discriminating against rednecks. come on now.

haha. kidding.

 I know a millita man he said they do boy scout training stuff. He got bored and stopped going. He said they were mostly fat boys who just sat around and talked crap about everybody.He thought they would be killed pretty quick and all who depended on them if it ever got real. i would sure need more than that to get on a watch list.Thats why I never joined one plus the racist stuff they tend to support.If the government was ever ready to really seize total control they would just swarm the millita mans homes one at a time and arrest them first, anyway it wouldn't be a hill to die on kind of thing. it would be federal agents arresting them at work one at a time and charging them over a period of time. so there wouldn't be a Lexington green for the miltia.It would be separate arraignments in federal court over a year or two.Then prison off to prison.

I'm not discriminating against rednecks. Rednecks are more than welcome but we will not behave in the stereotypical way "rednecks" act. And we won't be a militia we will just be a group of people learning skills in am organized manner. Theres no law against a group of people learning new skills. And as far as the racist crap I don't care white yellow black brown whatever as long as you have a clean background your welcome to learn with everyone else.

seems like everyone wants to put regulation on who can attend or be a member. listen carefully. when or if the s*** hits the fan. I will gladly take a dozen felons who are business owners and family men now over a whole bunch of Johnny Boy Scouts in there Toyota Prius.

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What's found in the background checks will in my opinion need to be discussed before any decisions are made about it.