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We have had nothing but trouble this year with parvo lost a total of 24 pups mixed variety and most were already spoken for. I lost 9 walker puppys to it my dad lost alot more to it to. The vet said it wasn't airborne but if we moved out kennels 100 yds and bleached them they should be fine. He said its a different strain of it not just like the orignal virus. It has a whole lot of different symptoms. Anyone have any problems with it this year?

   nope  .  what age is it hitting the pups  ?

sorry to hear that about your pups...what vaccines have you all been giving ya'alls pups?

No Parvo...just the coccidiosis.

I had the new strain hit... Out of 10 pups I lost two.... But the numbers are more in my favor because I medicated them literally every hour 24/7. For about a week... This new strain hits harder than the others and sure does go thru them faster too.

I built a pen off the groung just to raise pups in and when I don't have pups it serves as a ICU pen. And don't ever have any problems with parvo I've always been told to wait two weeks after taking gyp out of pen before first round of shots is given and I usually only give two rounds one about eight weeks old and the other about ten or twelve weeks and don't have any problems

we have off the ground kennels.

you will notice it when there on there mom and at 6 weeks usually.

We had it go through here. I shot a couple coyotes and brought them home on the flatbed. They were just there overnight but I had 8 die Anywhere from three months old to a year and a half. They didn't hardly last a day and they were dead.  That said the same thing a weird strain. Was just getting my dogs doing really good and it kinda set me back. Working to get back on track

Man I've never heard of Parvo or anything viral killing in 1 day.

It was bad. I felt sorry for them. They all had their shots too

different strains effect differently the strain we have kills them in 2 days. It was truly bad. 2,250 plus a 108 dollar vet bill to have them tested for parvo and internal parasites and it was just 1 pup. Humans can get parvo but its named different.

2250?

Had parvo hit me bad a few years back! Had to get rid of all the house and stray cats around also put up Mosquito Repellent around the kennels !! That is how my pups were getting it

what vaccines have you all been giving ya'alls pups, or were they too young for shots?

We have always have 7-1 at 6 weeks we lost a pup that came off my dads outlaw dog that wasnt even born here and he had his shots. This stuff is weird it doesn't have the same symptoms as the normal strain of parvo does.

Shoot...think I'd be bleaching, burning, and freezing, whatever it takes....everything around to get rid of that stuff.

Have your pups as far away from kennels as possible.

Thing is (after a little research) apparently it can stay in the dirt for years and a dog can carry the virus for a few weeks even after "cured".

   I had to do some research on this and this is the best I found so far  .

  The AVMA released a FAQ in April 2008 about a relatively new strain of parvovirus called canine parvovirus type 2c (CPV-2c). This strain causes the same gastrointestinal signs as the "regular" virus, canine parvovirus type 2 (CPV-2). These signs may include vomiting, diarrhea (often bloody), loss of appetite, lethargy and dehydration.
What about parvovirus types 2a and 2b? They are also present, but do not differ enough from CPV-2 to void the protective effects of the parvo vaccination. The new strain of parvo, type 2c (CPV-2c), circumvents vaccine protection because the viral proteins of CPV-2c are just different enough that the body doesn't have antibodies built up to fight it off; as it does with the other strains of parvo. Because of this, some diagnostic tests for parvo may not pick up on the new CPV-2c variant either.

This new strain of parvo is transmitted the same way as the old parvo; by dog-to-dog contact, and the risk is higher for dogs kept in close quarters, such as a kennel. Treatment is supportive, including fluid and eletrolyte replacement therapy, antibiotic support, and management of vomiting and diarrhea.

At this time, there is no vaccine for this new strain, but the currently available parvo vaccine may provide some protection, according to the AVMA research report. Dog owners are still strongly advised to vaccinate their dogs for parvo.


  that is why I like the re-sorb products as a fluid therapy it contains glucose as well as vitamins and electrolites 

In 5 years they still do not have a vaccine for 2C?

Are you boosting your bitches before they whelp?  You really shouldn't loose a pup that young unless the bitch wasn't vaccinated properly.  I'm talking 5 weeks old or less.

how far along do you usually vaccinate a pregnant gyp?

didnt on the ones we lost because this just hit us. We vaccinated my gabby gyp thats at the house im gunna give my walker dog two shots when she gets home from the stud dog. 2-4 weeks apart. Then shes not staying at the house due to wanting a pup out of her that bad. These will be some jam up hog dogs!

we have used bleach, ammonia and all that. Burned the blankets sick puppys were on and took the pups an Burryed on the back of our properties which is far off from the kennels. Weird thing is. A walker gyp had 4 male puppys thats all she had im hunting her for bobby barber of deridder,la. He didnt want the 4 pups which was really good bred he gave them to me and told me to sale them and keep the money. 2 puppys lived out of tht litter due to her jumping in her box on to them. They were born on the ground and not till the pup i was going to keep because my dad liked it died at 8 weeks after it had a shot. The two that lived sold them and there big healthy puppys.

Been a VT for quite a while. From what I understand, even the diiferent strain of parvo is still viral. That's why no matter what if a dog/pup came in Parvo + they'd be rushed straight to the closed in isolation ward, and only one tech was assigned to treatment, and that tech had to glove/gown up and step in a pan of bleach every time they went in/out. Parvo can live in an environment/soil for up to 8 years. Not trying to be morbid or offend anyone but I'd have burned/cremated them bodies, even though you did state that y'all buried them far away. Momm dogs get  a booster vax while preggers, and pups get their first vax here at 6wks. Our yard is closed, but even when close family comes over, we don't allow anyone to walk around or go foolin with our dogs/pups unless they sanitize their hands first, and we know they haven't been anywhere near dog parks, etc. Somethin as simple as someone walking through your yard or someone touching an infected dog unknowingly and then comin to your yard and foolin with your dogs can spread it. As for the symptoms, it always depends on the individual dog/pup. Some start exhibiting clinical signs gradually such as lethargy, vomiting, bloody foul smelling stool, etc.....whereas some get rushed into the clinic because they appeared "normal" and suddenly collapsed, or had a terrible sudden blowout of bloody watery stool. Sorry for the loss of y'alls pups.

How many puppies did u have live and have the outcome of selling?  If you had 25 die, how many lived?. Thats  ton of puppies.

24 puppies. That's 9 bulldogxmastiff cross that was already spoken for. 8 walker puppys. 3 mt curs that was gone. And 4 cur pups. These were not all born at the same time. All these but the walker puppys were already given away waiting in weining. It was 2,250 in walker puppys plus a 108 vet bill on my walker puppy. Only one survived.

Oh I was asking how many did u have total?

The out come was 6

Litters?

I had a bout with coccidiosis in my last litter so did Kenny and Elton with their pups. Are you sure some of it wasn't that?

Had them tested.

6 puppys out of 4 litters we lost an entire litter of bulldog puppys.

 mr whitten, this re-sorb you speak of. is it for cattle and you cut the dosage down or they have it for canine too?

my bluetick pup I just brought hm didn't eat much last night, and today hasn't drank much water, but been giving him fluid under his hide, dog food with pedi-lite in it and he seems to be holding it down as of now, but just plain water/dextrose fluid, he was throwing it up within 10-20min. I give him 2ml of pepto and he held it down for 20min and then the pedi-lite soaked dog food and its been 30min for that, but I only gave him 40ml of feed. he has had around 100ml of dextrose/water under his skin today, urine out put is nil now, was putting out a good bit earlier today. last night he was acting normal, but about 10 today, its like something hit like a freight train and looks like a starved etheopian kid in the matter of 10hrs. goin to the vet first thing in the morning to test him and see if he will let me take the iv bags, tubing and sedative hm with me and try to keep him alive.

Sorry to hear that Mr. Charles, I really hope your pup recovers fast, and that it's not serious. Intestinal parsasites can do that to 'em too. Hopefully it's not parvo. Did you vaccinate him recently? As in, within a week? Let your vet know if you did, because if they run the parvo snap test, and they have been vaccinated that recently with the modified live virus, the test CAN show a false positive.....

Naw, no vaccine and i talked to the mobile vet i use close to hm and he ask the same thinf, but also said that since he is now having bloody discharge, there is a good chance it will give a false positive too, and the vet im at now said the same thing, even if it aint parvo, it'll show that it is. They guy i got him from says all the other pups from that litter are normal and same with the 1s that went to louisianna this wkend, normal, but i do know it takes 7-10 days for the gestation period and i aint had him a full wk yet and none of my othr unvaccinated (no booster shot) dogs r showing symptoms, but i did let him run around in a parking lot where i met the guys wifes to get him. He could have gotten it from there or really anywhere. Either way, he has notified the other folks and is gonna keep an eye on his dogs. He has appologized several times, but it aint his fault, even if it came from his yard, its still just part of it and my responcibilty now

Well the vets said its not parvo. The test came back neg. i got a wks worth of meds, iv bag plus the visit n only cost me $49. Im hoping your right mrs louisiana and its just a gut bug from the pork along with the wormer, its just pulled him down.

 sorry Charles I just checked out this post . the re-sorb I just mix as directed  mix the two pouches together in enough water and inject under the skin until it bulges up and redo when it is absorbed usually three times a day is enough . the vitamins and electrolites in the solution really help out when a pup is not eating and gets dehydrated  .  good luck on your pup and yes it is the scouring calf product .


  sorry for your trouble with your bluetick and hope all goes well , if not holla at me or kevin and we'll hook you up in the future   lol  but I have pulled some pups from beyond the grave with the re-sorb and amoxicillin or smz-tmp if I have it on hand  . again good luck  .

Usually if they get parvo at this age it goes directly to their brain. Its very rare but is said to happen.

Well that's good news, the negative parvo test. I forgot about the pork thing....did he injest any of the pork? I've seen grown dogs get GI upset from ingesting pork. That's possibly what caused it! Him bein so young and all. I hope he pulls through with the IV fluids and the oral meds....I bet he will! Sending many positive vibes your way.  :)

Oh yeeeaaa, he ate pleanty of the pork meat n some fat, plus some of the liver and heart