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I have some friends that were hunting in Dayton tx between fm 146 and fm 1409 they lost there dogs.... They found there tracking collars in the DITCH...There was some more boys hunting the same place that day....... One is a black dog looks like a lab!!!! Next is a yellow dog darker color yellow not much black on his mouth..... The other is a Brindle dog!!!! These dog are all good dogs and are well missed!!!! This all happened last week!!! The word is spreading fast!!! But heres the real problem all three of these guy are known to be SCRAPPERS sometime I think they just look for a good SRCAPPIN they sure don't tolerate no B.S. Who ever got these dogs would not know how they are and I promise you don't want to find out!!! They will quit hog hunting and start hunting you.... Now me I am not a scrapper and If you can find out or know were these dogs might be or here of someone getting dogs with this discription please call me or pm me I will personally come get the dogs no questions ask and I will not tell them were I got them from.... If they find there dog in back off your truck I really fell sorry for you.... Thanks for all the good hog hunter help!!!!!!!!!!

CWARD,

Last week on Wednesday I believe, I saw a very big brindle dog on FM 1942 just East of Cedar Bayou. It did not have a collar that I could see, my wife was with me and she gave me the ole "do not even think about stopping" look. I asked my ranch hand if he had seen him and he did not. If I hear anything I will let you know. Later.....

when did it happen chance? Im suppose to hunt in dayton tonight ill keep my eyes open, got a buddy of mine had a dog come up missin out there too a couple weeks ago... It a sorry sob to steal a dog i really hope they find them

who lost them cward

Thats terrible.  Finding the tracking collars in a ditch gives your boys the right to pound the crap out of the guilty party. 

We were hunting a milo field one night when a group of teenagers came halling a$$ down the dirt road on 4 wheelers.  well two bikes stopped, one had a spotlight, the other had a rifle.  That spot light came on and was shining right at my prize and joy gyp.  AS soon as that happened those boys had a loco mofo screaming death threats and sprinting toward them with a seven inch blade in my right hand.  I never caught up to them, but if I did you probably would have read about it in the paper.

I really hope your friends get their dogs back!

These guys wer invited to hunt first time they ever hunted the place...Alldrege property!!!

sounds like its time for a lil redneck justice popo >:D

i hope when the find the guy you and me were talking bout chance i hode the give him a country whiping

Im all about whipping a dog thiefs ass , count me in and Im a pretty fair hand at the scrapping part. My dogs are my kids

  Chance, we will keep a look out for these dogs. You said it was on Alldrege Property. There just a few people that has premission to go on that place.

Thanks everyone for the concern and we have got some pretty good leads on who has the dogs I have had serveral guys from the board call and they all say the same name and that the feller is pretty shady...... They are makeing a trip to Dayton and hope everything comes out ok.... That little feller is going to catch hell I sure hope he can produce some dogs I think they are going to take it out of his hide!!!!!!  But he still mite try to sell them or give them away maybe even throw them out some where so keep your eyes open!!!   Who knows he might even be hog huntin in a wheel chair the rest of his..... It sure ain't worth no dog can't beleave someone would steal a dog just to say he has something better!!!!

I hope you find the guilty party and really hope you don't call the police...

hey bud u did not send me thay number

we lost a strike dog a couple of mon. ago. dc20 collar quit .stopped at a guys house to ask about her he was helpful. let us go behind his house and look. we gave description of bluemerle glass eyed catahoula.he knew the type of dog.so we left him a phone#. we went door to door and put up flyers.six weeks later guy from a feed store called said he knew where she was.met him then went and got a deputy to go with us right back to the 1st guys house.there she was . he said she showed up about mon. earlyer with no cut collar or dc20. didnt think about her being the one we lost.he even shopped at the feed store with the flyer on the door.

they will get theres one day!

I'm sorry about that number I got a call to go catch a bull right after I talked to you..Complety slipped my mind I will get it for you.. Sorry again!

keep us updated on this scumbag.

i can't stand a thief, but a dog thief is even worse!

hang em.... :-X

dont someone have a few big hogs that are hungry
          >:D >:D
        Dexter

Post some pics up Chance so i case someone sees them they know what they look like

I will see if I can get some from the guys who lost them!!!! They have got some very good leads who got the dogs but nothing has turned up yet!!!! 

Oh the board has been real helpful some on here know  the guy and say he is a pretty bad cat!! Thanks again for all the help!!!! Did not relize I would have that many response with them telling me the same name of the bad cat!!

I hope they get whats coming to them, thats like kidnapping a child in my book! I cant beleive someone could jump out take their callers off load them up and take off! Good luck , I hope justice prevales!

Sounds like we need to make that name public ???, in case someone on here may have a dealing with him. And surely he is not a welcome member anyone with that many people telling u the same person, i hope that get his arse... >:D

djhogdogger


I can tell you that I was a guest invited to hunt with someone on Buddy's place a couple years ago. Hunted there a few times, and there were several other parties out there hunting. Additionally I know of some people that have 20 acres adjacent to his place and they turn out on their place knowing full well where they will end up >:(   That place seemed like a free for all, so many people running dogs out there, I can't imagine how many keys must be floating around in addition to the fence jumpers....

Chance,

    I hope that your friends are able to locate their dogs. I agree that posting pictures might help them to be identified.

No, we won't make anyone's name public on here.

I hope the dogs get back to the right owner.
 

Yes we know that mike thanks, i was thinkin we could make an exception being that it was the same name multiple times but its your board and your rules popo Sorry for the bad suggestion ;)

Thanks guys and no I want place the name public but here say will get around!! And there has been even more people call maybe we can get him cornered..... Chris I think this guy is one who has 20 acres and joins the property...Thanks to all the help from easttexashogdoggers!!!!

   I have a friend that has premission to hunt out there, and he was telling me that Buddy has put a stop to people going out there. He was also telling me that if you don't have written premission from Buddy to hunt out there, that you will have trespassing charges filled on you no questions asked. If you get caught out there. 

DJ,

    I was told that he put a stop to all hunting out there for a while better than a year ago.  Something along the lines of some hunters getting stuck, then getting his tractor stuck trying to pull out their vehicle, as well as gates left open and loose cattle. Not sure how accurate the story was, but sounded like he was pretty upset, and rightly so. Then he started letting some people hunt again with permission....Problem is, some of those people that used to hunt out there, and no longer have permission, continue to hunt there. They know their risking getting caught....but they still hunt out there.  Might find that they also steal dogs. >:(

This is a crazy story.  I hope everything turns out.

is the dog missing old black dog of turkeys  ??? if so i feel so very sorry for the person that stole that dog because murray will give him the beating of his life

No this was A dog named Coley Creek of Brothers and the yellow dog wa out of my Ike dog named slime he was the real deal and the brindle dog belongs to bubba Y.    And people  the  Smith guys name that were wrote down are not the one who got the dogs so please don't think that!!!!  But If Murry gets his hand on that feller I do feel sorry for him!!!  He will probally tote the a$$ whopin of a life time!!!

The plot thickens........


I tell you what if someone stole my I would Dump a 55 gal drum of A$$ whoopin all over that SOB and Mine arent even any good.  If you started talking about great dogs or anything he would get the air let out of him no doubt

no lie who ever has them dogs is going 2 wish they were  :-X :-X by the time them boys get done with them i no them all very well and they dont take crap off of anybody and have zero tolarence for dog thieves its going 2 be a bad deal. i just hope ur there 2 try and keep things from getting 2 out of hand  :-[ :( :-\

the hog hunting world is a small one,  & stealing always comes back to the theif 10 times worse, I hope you find your dogs & break the theifs arms , it will give him something to remember you buy, maybee no one has taught these guys or guy this lesson. good luck

someone who would steal a dog needs to get a good ole southern a$$ whipin if you ask me. anything i can do just let me no ill be more than happy to kick the crap out of this scum bag.

A man named James Brewer had a dog come up missing out thier a couple weeks ago he was hunting off of 1409 and even met the man he thinks is envolved. to make a long story short he went to mans house and got the mans landlord to open his house and got his name collar and tracking collar out he still hasnt found his dog she is a yellow gyp with a 3/4 tail with a bad scar on one flank

 :o I sure would like to hear the long version. I tried not to comment on this thread but Im ready to lead the lynch mob now!
This dude has got to be stopped!!!

if the dog is valued of X number of dollars wouldnt that make it a felony and get the po po popo after the countefit no account scumbag
hes probally got the dogs stashed at his moms,girlfriends brothers any wheres but his house  get a 5-6  tag team for follow him

Cward,

       I just had a phone call from a guy that hunts that area wanting to know if the dogs had been located. He said yesterday morning he saw three dogs running in a field off 1413.  Said from the road they looked to be black,tan,and maybe spotted. I know the original post said black, yellow, and leopard...but I guess there is a chance it could be the same dogs. 

Yeah I would go out there and call from the roof of the truck. He might have gotten scared and dropped them back off? Never know. I bet they show back up before its all dun with. Good luck. Keep us posted.

No the dogs have not been located the dogs were not at the boys house but he is running from them he want talk to them and has not been home when they go...... His story is that the dogs were dead in the road and he just took there collars off and through them in the ditch.....  Said he deposed of the dogs......This came from a guy who knows the boy well..... There  is another story on this boy that came from a good friend of mine .....Said he had a dog forsale so he went to look at the dog and the dog had a different name on the collar so he called the number and the guy said that his dog was stolen....This friend of mine told him where his dog was the guy went to get his dog got his collars back but he said the dog got loose and he didn't know where the dog went.....But I will tell them to go check 1314....Another guy hunted with this guy and the dogs crossed a fence so they got to the gate and the boy said he forgot his keys and took a wrech off the fourweeler and undid the hinge on the gate said they went to the dogs and came bach through the gate and the boy did not even shut the gate he ask him why he said he would come back the next morning and shut it... Know all this has been brought up the one good guy thinks that boy was lieing  and made him tresspass!!!!

hey cward is that ol boy me and you talk about a menber on here i no he is  on texas boars?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

I really don't know but I'm sure if he is and he see us talking about it then I am calling him out all his got to do is pm him me where them dogs are or what he did with them....He deffently got them dogs there is more proof on this but he don't have the dogs at his house......I think I might just go ahead and say it that Black dog was hand raised by a women and she is upset he's gone you dang COWARD!!!!!!!!!   Yo can run but you can't but can't run forever!!!! Thanks again for all the help from good board member from easttexashogdoggers!!!

i HAVENT HEARD CWARD SAY ANYONES NAME. DO HAVE A GUILTY CONSCIOUS? I DONT SEE ANYONE ELSE ON HERE ASKING IF THEY WERE TALKING THEM. IF YOU DIDNT DO IT DONT WORRY ABOUT IT. IF YOU DID OR YOU KNOW WERE THE MANS DOGS ARE THEN SPEAK UP.  OTHER THAN THAT IF YOU ARE NOT HELPING HIM GET THEM DOGS BACK LEAVE IT ALONE.

If anyone has any valuable information about the missing dogs, then post it up.

If not, take your back-and-forth bs up in private. >:D

sorry mike that made me mad

WARD,
  Het with TDHA with the matter. If the dog owners are members there is a fund set up. Money make people roll over on thier friends all the time.

The TDHA has a crime stoppers and legal fund for TDHA members. Another good reason to join TDHA.

Crime Stoppers Fund

The Texas Dog Hunters Association's Crime Stoppers Fund will pay a reward up to $500 for information that leads to the conviction of a person(s) who has committed a criminal act according to the laws of the State of Texas against or affecting a dog owned by a member of Texas Dog Hunters Association (TDHA.)

To qualify for this assistance you must be a member in good standing for at least 24 hours prior to the act against the dog(s). For the purpose of this fund, in good standing means the TDHA member has paid membership dues, those dues have been received by TDHA and the member is recognized by TDHA.

The Board of Directors of TDHA will consider each case individually and determine the amount to be paid and the time period in which the reward may be claimed by the affected member.

The reward CAN be paid to a non-TDHA member.

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Legal Fund

The Texas Dog Hunters Association's Legal Fund is for members who are involved in legal action concerning the member's hunting dogs. TDHA may pay up to $1,000 for each application. This fund is designed to assist with expenses relating to a civil or criminal case including, but not limited to, attorney's fees and trial expenses.

To qualify for this assistance you must be a member in good standing for at least 24 hours prior to the incident that is the subject of the civil suit or criminal case. For the purpose of this fund, in good standing means the TDHA member has paid membership dues, those dues have been received by TDHA and the member is recognized by TDHA.

The TDHA Board of Directors reserves the right to examine each case based on the facts presented to TDHA and to determine the amount, if any, to be paid up to $1,000.

If the member who makes the application is awarded costs and/or damages and actually receives payment on such award, any monies paid to the member from the Legal Fund by TDHA must be reimbursed to TDHA and the Legal Fund.

If nothing else, this thread has talked me into ordering my brand....... It would sure make identification easier and likely make your dogs less attractive to a thief. That's not fool-proof by any means but an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. I hope!

Steve

never a truer word spoken

hey who do i talk to about the branding i wana do it i hunt the dayton aera alot it may be inportant to do it

If you do a search, there are a couple of "how to" threads, basic discussions, and suggestions for the purchase and application of cold brands.

Steve

texas_hog_hunter
   give these folks a call they are fast and  have very good prices  its hard to hide a white brand on a dog
         http://www.freeze-brands.com/
     Dexter

thanx

The man who owns the dogs is not a member TDHA!!! But he did make a visit to the mans house and caught him there.....Now this gets pretty interesting...The first thing he did was blamed it on another guy that has the same first name.....But that got correct real quick then they put me on the phone with him because all the help from this post I caught him in several lies BOY DID HE STUDDER.....The man who owns the dogs said his story changed several times.....The crook also called for back up alls his friends but they found out this man ain't B.S around 2 of the 3 guys left said that did'nt want no part of him!!! But before he left he said I will give you 2 weeks to come up with my dogs or the next time I will take it out of your hide!! His exact words were if anybody can find your dogs  I can there probally still were you were hunting....Well they been checking where they were hunting so we will see!!! My friend also said the guy had a good looking black and tan dog on his chain that the name plate had been cut off the collar!!! THis is the same guy that JLH posted who had the other tracking collars...He has no transportaion....Lives in a camper!!!  Oh and he give the same story to my friend as he gave to the guy That JLH posted about and that dog is still missing too!!!!Thanks again!!

cward
 thanks for the update,,,,,, sounds like its fixin to get country fried
     Dexter

CWARD with all do respect, you have it all wrong, I was there,. I was not called and knew nothing about the ol,boy being there when I just showed up hell I knew nothing about him even being accused of the whole ordeal, the other two guys that left live there. And the whole take it out of his hide thing is BS I was standing there the whole time.And he did not say if anyone can find your dogs I can. His exact words were I know alot of people and I will put the word out, and also keep an eye out for them myself.
 Also the black and tan dog came from a friend of mine that has had him since he was a pup.
  Heck I even offered for him to come look through my kennels if it eased his mind any,but he declined the offer.
 The owner told me the collars were found in the ditch just around the corner from the accused's house. Just like I told him who in there right mind would do that right around the corner from there house? He ultimatly agreed with me on that also. It sounds to me as if someonu is POed at the accused and is trying to set him up. JMOP

Well in all yalls looking around keep an eye out for a yellow cur and spotted dog with a rocking B on the rib cage. Both came up missing about 4 or 5 months ago right around the corner from where yall are talking about. Both dogs were branded and had collars with name plates. Dogs belong to Brett Hall.

I just want everone to know I havent accused anyone of anything but James Brewer and buddy from vidor went to a mans house in or around Old River and found his tracking collar and name collar in the man trailer his landlord went into the mans house and found them. BM from Cleveland was hunting with Old River man and he told Bm so BM called james and told them where his stuff was thats all I know
I also know that the man from Vidor lost a Yellow gyp 3/4 tailed and has bad scar in one flank they will give reward to the leading and conviction of man who has dog or if want to remain out of picture you can contact a neutral person and deliver dog to them and james will keep u out of it

Bayed- up I talked to the man on the phone his stories did not line up I figured that when you sent me  a pm the other day you must have known the guy but I'm glad you are here now to defend him because I have had over 30 calls on this same guy  about 10 of them I would trust with my life  and they are very straight shooters everyone had negeative things to say about him....I also herd what was in the back ground and The guy I know was all in his ass!!!!!! And even asking him why his story was change from what he was telling me on the phone from what he told him......Even blaming it on another guy that has the same first name that was not even hunting the property that same day........I know the feller very well and he will take it out of his hide so I will call him and tell his wife to look on the computer about what you have wrote And see if he needs to go on and make another visit down there to speak with the guy.... And I f you new you I was talking about the other day why did you beat around the bush on youe pm about information like you were just trying to help....But I looked at your profile seen you just regstered seen what you have posted before and just was'nt sure about tellin you information.... I have your pm saved !! Just odd you did'nt ask me about all this the other day!! Instict  works you are the only person that I have not answered on a pm!!!

 ;D ;D ;D :o

I just got to laugh at this....... Not because you are right or because you are wrong, I don't know any one involved and have no opinion on the subject, but because I would have kept my nose as far out of this as possible!

There are no less than 4 people on this thread who have personally lost, or lost by one degree of separation, dogs within proximity of this man; OR recovered their collars within proximity of and/or within this mans domicile. Common sense says that something aint right!

I can understand the propensity to defend a friend or family member but self preservation has to take precedence at some point......

Steve

yeah that ol feller stepped off in a crap hole that he could have easily jumped...  ;D

Oh the wonders of the internet and how folks seem to be bigger behind a computer!  :o

Chance yall keep putin the fire on them boys... they will choke out eventually.... If your buddies dont get to em first...

I did speak with the owners of the dogs again he stuck to his story of everthing that happened!!!! I don't no your friend never hunted with him....But I take it that he is not very liked feller and you might be a great guy I do not know you either but this guy has a bad (REP) and  has been caught with collars that were not his!!! I know for a fact he has sold sorry dogs to one feller and told him they were jam up strike dogs the feller still has one and I have hunted behind this dog and he is by far jam up.....He even cried to this guy about his life story he felt sorry for him and bought the dogs!!! So he lied there!!! Then another guy went to try a dog and said he took a gate off hinges because he forgot his keys and left the gate down when they came back through!!!!!Then another guy said he hunted with him and he drove a fourwheeler across a cron field to drag a hog out!!!! This is just a few of the stories I got on him and it is deffently the same guy!!!!Not someone I would want to be caught with!!! He is not very well liked around his area..... Just hate to see you get  tied up with this guy....If he was to go have be in front of a jury with over 30 guys on the stand not in his favor I think he might need to worry!!!! Maybe I am wrong just a whole lot leading to this guy and his stories are never the same!!!!! I am just trying to help my friends get there dogs back and if you were in there shoes and found out the same rep of this guy and he was in the same property they were in I think you would be in there corner!! Knowing  he is a dog trader and all is not in his corner either!!!! othing wrong with selling dogs just when your swapping junk then there is no integerity!!!!!!!! JMO

Steve, Please type that in english. ;D


  Sounds like a bunch of he said she said crap. Hope who ever owns the dog can figure it all out.

C.Miller I hate Brett lost his dogs I have heard they were good ones!!!!!

Like I told your buddy CWARD, I would be the same way if they were my dogs. Im not gonna defend nobody thats wrong I can tell you that now. if your wrong your wrong!!!!!!! I dont know you, and you dont know me so why in the hell would I even say anything if I wasnt concerned myself ? I mean this is a comp. so why would I even bother ya know????

sounds to me like i would stay the hell out of that area with a dog must be some good hogs in the area for people to keep going back at the exspense of somebody taking
 there dogs

so was the guy you was defending right or wrong?  in your opinion of course

Im not saying hes wrong or right, cause I wasnt there. I just dont believe that he would take someones dog.I cannot say , cause all it is is a bunch of he say she say

What part of Texas is this? Is it close to Louisiana?

Joey,

     It's northeast of Houston about 30-45 minutes. Almost due east of where we hunted in the forest earlier this year.

Ok Bayed -up gave me some info!!!!Just letting you know that the guy you said is blameimg your friend said he knows about  where the dogs are..The owner has talked to both guys and they keep pointing the finger at each other!!The man just wants his dogs back!! one of the guys is getting a felony charge for one of the other dogs that came up missing  before all this happen.... they say there is enough proof and charges have been filed and investigation is over!!!I hope it don't have to go this for with these dogs!!But  I do thank everybody for info even Bayed-up!!!

Dog thieves in these parts don't last long because there isn't many hog hunters and we all know each other. However u got to watch your horses, cattle, and dogs in Texas!lol

well this kind of died have they found out anything

They are trying to let the law handle it!!But the guys that they think got the dogs point the fingure at each other and both say they no for a fact the the other one got the dogs and they left the place of hunting together!!!At this point I am just going to see what the law can do!!!!One of these guys has a felony charge for a fact for stealing a dog like I said this is for a fact!!So maybe they can tag both guys and get justice out of this deal!!Don't no where the dogs are and might not get them back but it is a shame that a man raises a dog gets it to finding hogs and some punk wants to steal it!!!!It's just not right!!!!