EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

And I ain't talking about the ticked off hoodlums neither  ;D


Saw this on another site and figured i'd share.

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/story/23690098/2013/10/14/big-cats-attack-in-houston

It was obama n his wife runnin for their lices bc their secret service were furloughed

Yep...they are around. When I lived in Van Zandt County (99-00) there were 2 spotted together.

 I used to live between Lufkin and Nacogdoches and I have seen 1 and heard a pair of panthers screaming about 10yrs ago on our 20ac. they are around, just not a common sighting yet.

I told yall so.... lol

Here we go again...

When I lived in Lumberton my junior year of high school they had a rally at the court house

Neighbors seen one right next door in a field. I've heard them as well.

My cousin family used too have a farm in east tx around gun barrel city and saw one while spot lighting one night

you were one of the first people I thought about when I read the story lol. Where did you see it at again?

Might have been a black jaguar.....black panther's don't exist

I thought they was the same thing, just depends on what part of the country and world a person is from.
A mnt lion and cougar are the same, but called different names.

They do exsist an all you skeptics need to research it before makin fun of us that have seen or heard them.late 60s early 70s they were trapped in new mexico an arizona an released n national forest in texas yes easttexas.

the blackish color is just a color phase

Well I'll add to the list..... I've heard them where I live in Liberty,Tx

Seen one with my own two completely sober eyes, TWICE here, same general area, same time of year.

I seen one in jan. This past year in old ocean . Walked up to the tree were it was trying to figure out what I was looking at . I even looked in my scope I couldn't mske it out then it turn its head then I knew it was a cat  it had turned cause there were two coyotes coming at me so I shot one. As soon as I shot it ran out of the tree freaked me out it was at least knee high but I rember it having short legs . I looked it up when I got home I think it was a jagarundi if that's how u spell it

Lillwill post where they caught and released black panthers.....I understand people see black cats but it's not a black panther... More than likely it's a jaguar...

So what exactly is the diffenece between the black panther & black jaguar then?

Panther, cougar, mountain lion....black, yellow, whatever...all the same.

They are completely different animals. Like lion and tiger, both cats, but once you know the difference it'd be hard to confuse the two.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_panther

Well let me sum it up for you no matter what there called me n that cat better not meet cause it will be on the wall n I'd be headed to Walmart for some new boxers lol

I was told 1 day to wiki it, so t-bob did. here it is that contradicts your statement of there not being a black panther.


ok, Im not to crazy then, they r the same, like mnt lion and cougar are the same, just different terms used by different people. just like taters and potatoes, same thing, just another pronunciation

Jaguar- Panthera Onca
Cougar-Puma Concolor

Different animals, jaguars can be black, cougars can not.

Panther is a common name for cougars, jaguars, leopards, other big cats. So technically, there can be black panthers, but cougars can not be black according to current scientific knowledge. Not even in captivity, through selective breeding has there ever been a black cougar ( Puma Concolor)

I'm no biologist, but I do play one on ethd. Lol

so u got an animal doctrine from the university of ethd and never got out of the 10th grade. wow that's an achievement.  ;D
just funning with ya terry.

If so many people have seen one and so many people have heard them then how come no one has one hanging on a wall? Or for that matter no pictures of large black cats in the United States in the wild???????

How many times have seen an animal and said "dang i wish i had my rifle/pistol or bow"? In east tx, they r so scarce, most folks dont get up n say "hey, im gonna sit on the stand n get me panther". The time i saw the cat on my property, i drew down with a 10ga and aimed what i thought was foot or so behind the only thing i could see, the eyes n dropped the hammer. I heard it scream, hit the ground n brush braking as it headed east. Once the smoke cleared, i walked to the tree i thought it was in (40yds or so) and didnt find hide, hair or blood and search nearby trees and the ground.

Just bc nobody has 1 on the wall or floor mnted, or pics, dont mean they dont exist hear in the states. There r pics of bigfoot, so going with your conclusion, bigfoot is real bc there r fuzzy pics and vids of it. Not tryin to bust ur wevos, just making an observation and posting run in with a black cat.

So many stories just like yours. But in the hundreds of years people have lived here there hasn't been any PROOF of their existence here in the states. I seen tons of pictures of black cats next to feeder with 5 ft tall cinder blocks right behind em. Everyone wants to believe they have seen one, heard one, or had some kind of contact with one. That's great!!! A lot of people live for myths. That's all black cats here are. Think of how many cats hunters there are in the woods every year, how many deer hunters, how many folks running trashy hog dogs. All those people and no one can come up with proof. I'm talking 100% solid, make me put my foot in my mouth proof. 

 you have a very valid point with your sec post, but just cause some1 aint caught it on film/pic or killed it, we all must be liars then.
but in east tx, aint to many cat hunters, but I take a camera to the woods 99.9999% of the time now, plus have my phone too for just in case moments for skeptics such as yourself. at night its hard to see and with a dim headlight, its not much better than using the naked eye, but when my kids were just able to walk, they were walking to my dads house, less than 100yds away even at night, so the sec time I heard it, I took off with the scatter gun. I wasn't gonna take a chance at it any kind of animal getting to my kids. ove the yrs, my dad has heard the screams, usually in the early fall. unless there are some kids getting their mojo on on our property, and their yellow eyes shine at night, and knowing what a captive panther and a mnt lion sound like, im sticking to what I saw and have heard. I aint nvr seen a mnt lion in the ne tx area, nvr even hear the scream of 1, but saw 1 on a trail cam. I don't believe a panther in east tx is a myth, but I do not believe in the boogy man, saquatch/bigfoot, unicorns, Pegasus, pheinox, and other mythical creatures, but black cats, bigger than a house cat, yea.

Well said Charles. And I guess the screams we've heard at 2 at night in the middle of the woods was little girls running around screaming lol a month or so ago my buddy came across a cat track as big as his hand. Right behind the house

Nobody worth a crap denies there are cougars in existence. It's the black part that is being debated. I don't know exactly what part of east Texas y'all are in, but I saw a plain ol yella cougar with my own peepers several times crossing the highway around groveton when I used to hunt there and right here in lil ol manvel tx one of the guys I hunt for has tracks in his pasture and pics on his game ca m

See a panther/cougar I'm all about. People tell me they seen em down here in matagorda county. I say why not?? They got everything they need. Now a black jaguar, since there is as much a black panther as there is a pink one, ain't here. That's just it. They do not exist in our part of the world in the wild. Dark colored panthers sure. Not black jaguars.

I may have to put my foot in my mouth. I just seen a juvenile "black panther" cross the street. It was about 1 ft tall and had a long tail. Ima turn around and try to get a picture of it for all the believers out there!!!! Hahaha

 terry, not talkin bout cougars/mnt lions, they are brown/tan and they may be in the same definition class as jags, but im referring to a black or really dark grey panther. iv seen on trail cam a cougar.

if I didn't see a black/dark gray panther, then what type colored animal blends in with the opposite of white "black" that I shot at that night? I could see a slim slightly quartering towards me really dark colored animal, that was the size of a med build german shepard about 8' in a tree, so it was a shepard, so don't say it  ;D ? I know what I saw (more what I couldn't see bc of the color) and heard that night. if there is a next time and I have a camera ill try to get a pic, even if it means getting mauled by it just so I can say "SEE I TOLD YOU"


did the little hoodlum fall out of its stroller n momma was in to much of a hurry, getting to walmart to max her star card out?  ;D

They have been seen multiple times here in the northern part of hunt county several of my good friends have seen them. I have seen a big yellow cat my self balin hay one day and it had a little one following behind it on the way to the trees.

We found a calf hanging about eight foot up a tree while hunting cattle along the colorado river back in the early eightys. I have seen glempses of them and tracks along the river several times sence then. I live right down on the river and my dogs sometimes go crazy in the early dawn , could be hogs or a BIG CAT !!!! HUN'T UM  UP !!!!