EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

There is a meeting in Van Nuys Ca. Jan. 15 by the Wildlife Resources Committee [whatever that is] to discuss the banning of dogs in taking any mammal. Any Californians on here better take notice.

The slipperly slope.... the new data shows a 50% reduction in bear hunts and that's what the anti's wanted... the real data will be the increased depredation and maulings coming.

If this passes it could be sure to be looked at in other states. Hopefully not.

It's to much of a culture in texas to get banned I would think

What bothers me is that the system is set up in their favor...one day hunting dogs will be a thing of the past...

They don't come after every thing all at once. They change little things one at a time like catching in a pen then no tethering and pretty soon it's so much trouble people quit keepin dogs and there are less and less people fightin them. You may think that they can never change things in Texas and you may be right but every year there are more folks in cities and less in the country and those city folk think a dog should live in the house so he can't get hurt. The 3 west coast states now have so many liberals in the few big cities that they can dang near vote any crap in they want and the rest of the rural part of the state is stuck with it. In Oregon and Washington you can't hunt bear or cougar with dogs and can't even legally trap a dang gopher cause of these campaigns by the treehuggers.

Alot of folks don't keep up with all the proposals and such, and that's no good these days. Gotta try and stay on top on all these things, and take the time to show up and speak up and fight for what we believe in. If no one speaks up, they'll have a field day just voting our rights away. Another reason why it's good to join up with local hunting dog organizations and band together. Strength in numbers.

Need to start training wild dogs/coyotes to attack the genitals of these politicians and antis'.
The lack of hunting and keeping the wildlife in check will cause an over population of them and then start encroching more into populated areas, bringing more predators and more predator attacks on humans, then the antis' will b!t€h about to many animals and predators.

    That's what everyone here in Louisiana thought  about Cock fighting!

  yep kid7  you keep on a thinking that !!  I'm old and I will still live to see hound hunting a thing of the past before I die  .  I do so very much hope all of you young hunters are registered voters because the anti hunting is pretty much a democrat thing and if ya'll don't vote and you let a bunch of democrats take control in the texas legislative process and it will all be over quicker than you think .

  this is 2014 folks , one of the most important voting years we have had in a long , long time , choose your candidates wisely .

You are preaching it right, bro. Halfbreed!!

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Shame man when low life's has nothin better else to do then to make laws on how to make the sport of hunting disapear

Thats exactly how they do it. Just one little thing at a time to reduce numbers, then they just vote you down. In CA they just passed Statewide Lead Ammo Ban for ALL FIREARM HUNTING! Just ridiculous. Liberal Tree huggers are kiiling us!!! Oregon unfortunately is just following CA's lead, doesn't help that portland is by far one of the most liberal cities in the U.S.


Your 100%, just read an article on yahoo that Texas might finally go blue with those two Female candidates who are democrats. I was like WOW not cause their women but because of the democrat thing. I was thinking no way they go blue, thats how it all starts! I hope I don't offend anyone, not my intention JMHO

I hope your right! But the problem with that is that the anti's can just go right around your state law and pass a federal act, I believe they did something like that for the cockfighting laws. I could be wrong on that but still you get the point.  But if it becomes federal then all bets are off your done and not much you can do about it.

The further we get from our rural past, the further down the crapper our nation goes.

Exactly...that what I meant when I said the system is on their side...I used to believe that the majority should rule...I have now changed my mind...

I believe this is how it should be...

if you are an anti hunter...then practice it...

If your are a hunter...practice it...

As long as the hunter and fisherman abide by rules that manages the resources there shouldn't be any issues...

One group should not have the authority to impose their beliefs on another group...

Europe to California to the rest of the nation. That's the way the laws and ideas go. Look at gay marriage and marijuana. As stated, we are a dying breed. I try to take children and folks who've never been dogging so others will understand the sport. Most hunters will sit around and complain as our rights are taken away. One day hog doggin will be something that is spoken of as something grandfathers and great grandfathers once did.

Every dog running state in the country will be under attack. Peta will go after the dog hunters first but we all know their goal is to stop all hunting.
  Fla. was one of the biggest dog running states in the country. They ran deer, rabbits, coon, bear, fox, hogs, You name it with dogs yet Gov. Lawton Chiles caved in to the antis when they complained that the black bear was endangered & stopped bear hunting in Fla. This was about 15 years or so ago.
  In the 1960's Mn. decided to stop bear hunting with hounds  for a couple of years for a trial period. Guess what, they never got their dog season back. Once you lose something, that's it when it comes to dog hunting, it's gone.
  The best thing you can do, join your state dog ass. NRA & any other groups that are going to support your rights as a hunter & a gun owner. This is going to be a long fight & Peta is taking it state by state. Even if it is not your state, you can show your support, because believe me, sooner or later, it will come to your state.
  Like said above, this will be dicided in cities where the majority rule.

Reuben, you made me chuckle.  In the large picture, you are right.  One group should not impose their beliefs upon the other.  But  ...  change the topic and you might find that your view of what we should allow changes.    For all of us, me included.  It is hard to balance one's beliefs/views on a particular topic with not creating laws/rules/regs that impose them on others who have different views.

On this topic, I do not like the direction and erosion of our hunting rights.  They are slowly being whittled away.  As our population has grown, so has the concentration of it.  People living in more urban and suburban areas relative to rural.  So they aren't exposed to hunting/fishing/trapping, etc. ... so they have no affinity for it.  This trend will continue.

im in california and it is sadder than most of you think.i went to 4 hearings on the bear and bobcat hoiund deal year befoe last in sacramento. those democrats had no desire to even listen to any facts  or number of folks who wanted it to remain legal or financial burden or anyhting. this was 100 percent sponsored by the hsus and their leader from washington dc got up in the hearings and said it didnt matter if we got it defeated, as if we did they would be back with it the next year on the ballot and we would loose in a lanslide. and he was right. as for the lad ban weve had it here where i live and hunt for five yrs plus due to the condor zone. but now it will be state wide and cover every bird and animal hunted. i remember oregon fell so fast on bear dogs that folks were just in shock. heck i remember when you could see a leagl cockpit from i 5 in oregon and now its a felony intent state. and just ask the rooster folks how they will never take away part of their heritage. do you know in california havin a large number of apbt looking dogs is prima facia evidence to get a search warrant for dog fighting? i hate to say it but texas isnt safe on dog hunting. and several yrs back when they cracked down on the catch dog competitions i was on a cnn report on dog fighting right after michael vick.they didnt bother to state that i was doing a completely legal activity at the time though. all this is also a reason i get bad when i see folks that are dog hunters say how bad the heli hunters are. we are all in the same boat and its sinkin fast and some  here on this board will see some states all but abolish hunting . ok off my soap box, gary

wish I can say my vote counts...but at the moment I feel It does not and hadn't for sometime now..untill I own a few politicians anyway

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Agreed lou. Until the poor man can afford to buy the politicians, we will continue to take it from behind untill we remove them 1 way or another. They can outlaw all the hunting they want, but its the poor wardens n other leos that will have to enforce the laws n pay the ultimate sacrafice for a bunch bunny humping id10ts forcing their unjust views.

charles, all this stuff makes me think we will see another claude dallas in the near future.

Hey Gary how ya doing. I agree with you, when he escaped from prison he was actually caught not too far from where I live. First it will be dogs, then hunting, then guns all together. What happened to the individuals rights. Sad sad time!

Who/what is claude dallas

If those wardens and leo's have "chosen" to enforce those unjust rules, then they have already "chosen" their side. ;)Piss on them and anyone else who tries to take away my way of life.

Really?  The side they have chosen is "law enforcement".  They don't make the laws.  They choose to enforce them.  Merely enforcing a law does NOT make them an enemy or bad.  I suspect many of the laws you think they should enforce are laws that others think they shouldn't.

charles, it was i wanna say 30 yrs ago. claude dallas shot and killed one or 2 game wardens and was on the run for a while and there was huge public sentiment in favor of dallas for a while. do a search and you will find the info on the story so i dont get it all screwed up.

Rl, ur about as close minded as the government. ur reading more into what i wrote than there are words there. Laws and enforcers are required for a somewhat civilized society. Game laws are deffinately required to ensure plentifull game for future generations, to harvest and to just look at, but outlawing hunting all together will do more harm than good, for animal and people. Some folks live off the land, harvest the animals to help feed their families, as my dad did for us some 20+yrs ago, and when food is taken from the mouths of those families, the enforcers of the laws, who choose whether to enforce or abide by a paticular law will pay the price, not the politicians or the idiots who wanted the law in place. Do i agree with ALL laws passed, NO, nor do u or anybody else out there, some laws are required, some are a waist of paper they written on and a waist of time for the law makers that could have put that time to use elsewhere, and a waist of time for the leos to enforce, when more urgent and dire crimes are being commited. The leos are the unlucky pawns in a kings army, sent out on the front line to battle/enforce laws that that paticula leo may not believe in, but he has to put food on the table for his family, and if by doing so of enforcing a law, it takes food off the table of families, then he mite need to look at another career choice or petition his boss with the help of the citizens, who can then take it to the state law makers and try and amend or remove the law all together.

Interesting story, i just ordered the book "give a boy a gun" off amazon, its supposed to be the whole story about claude dallas from what i understand. Thanks for postin that, i had never heard of him until now.

Long story short he was living off the land trapping/hunting when 2 gws strolled into his camp that was full of poached hides, 1 gw went into claudes tent, while he was in the tent claude and the gw that remained outside had an altercation resulting in claude shooting the gw with his .357, when the other gw came out of the tent claude shot him as well, shortly after claude retrieved his .22 lr rifle and shot both men execution style then dumped ones body in a river and hid the others body in a coyote den. He was arrested but then broke out of prison only to be caught a while later. He was charged with voluntary manslaughter and sentenced to 30years,  released from prison early due to good behavior in 2005  after serving 22 of the 30 year sentence.

Charles, I agree with you.  LEOs aren't the enemy.  They didn't choose "the other side".  They chose to enforce the laws.

My post above quoted Warrent who ranted against the LEOs.  His post quoted yours above it and both appeared when I quoted his.