EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Just want to see if there where any bulldog guys on here wanting to pick there brains over

i dont have much to pick thru but whats your questions?

Because of poor boys I will nevwr give away another dogtrying to help some one out

Did it find it's way on the dog trade pretty quick?

That dont sound good.

No it didn't I still have the dog its a personal issue my question  is what game bred lines are being used and what are the pros and cons

I would not recommend getting a gamebred bulldog (apbt) I would recommend getting a pit from someone on here thats has lines that have been catchdogs for a few generations. A true gamebred bulldog from a good line do not usually make good pets. Can they yes but why chance it, a gamebred bulldog can and will bring a lot of characteristics that the average dog man would never want to deal with. Plus if you dont know anyone a good gamebred one can cost a pretty penny. Not to even mention if the do something bad to another persons dog or actually to a person, that will become the most expensive dog of your life! lol

I would compare it to this, would you go buy a highstrung stormcat thoroughbred to give walking pony rides?

If you really want the game blood ancestry in them, I would recommend an old family rednose like a hemphill/wallace or a wilder/hemphill they are not a gamebred bulldog but they use to be in the 70's and before. 

I have had and bred gamedogs dogs going on 21 years now and that is my two cents, I know there are others that will totally disagree with me but thats what makes America great and why I like this site.  ;D

Agree with TheRednose...they are usually  too much dog for most people. Also most dont go for the ear.
I have been lucky to have  2 gyps that have excellent temperments but I still make sure not to put them situations where they can turn on. One was a redboy/jeep dog and my current cd is a alligator/snooty/bruno/hienzl gyp.

Good post red nose. I agree with you 100% why chance it? And if you do why not go with someone on the board that has some experience with them and some cd lineage. I think it just sounds a lot of work to own a "true gamebred" bulldog for the average hog hunter (as you stated)

I have to say, I think it all depends on the particular dogs personality. I have a game bred red rednose (apbt) and he is awesome! He is actually one of the only dogs I have that will ride in a box with any dog at all with no aggression, and if that sucker can hear the bay he is going and will have it shut down when you get there. One of the hardest mouths Ive ever seen also!

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I would get a good Scott American Bulldog and be done with it.........a good blood line will have game and make a good family dog also. Beside you don't want one of them light weights, you want something with some weight to him....

I want the endurance stamina and athlitic abilities and the gamebred and the bully pits just don't work for I was thinking of eli/jeep type lines or I'd go with old family red nosed I just can't find them american bulldogs are to big and because oof a select few have continues screw me over its been even harder for me to keep good dogs

I would sure listen to to what the Rednose said cause it's gonna be pretty much what he said. As far as what people try to call gamebred. That is a real tuff call cause what I call gamebred and what you call gamebred can be worlds apart and son you ain't been screwed till you mess with some of those tryin to sell gamebred dogs to the general public. Your odds would be better in the lottery.

I have been getting my research in and I see where  red nose is coming from and trying to find a reputed breeder in texas

I think that is a great choice, tend to be a little bigger than most of the game lines and usually easier to get handle on, but still brave enough to go after a big one. i actually heard they make real good catchdogs. i seen a couple videos of them catching, pretty impressive.

I have had quite a few gamedogs but the smartest dog I ever owned of any breed was a reddevil/corvino bred bitch that was out of two red rednose bulldogs. She was the only one that was not the same, she was black with red brindling and had yellow eyes. She was real long and lanky, imagine a smaller greyhound on steroids haha. she was 52lbs lean. Smartest dog by far, boy I sure do miss her. 

Anderson I know you havebeen following you for several months here and facebook I know you blocked me that is fine I made a new account just so I could watch your actions on there.  When I say this I am speaking truthfully not because I do t like u but because  you have changed your mind on dogs 20 different times on dogs in the last 3 months. Go to the pound and while I know your on the watch list to not give dogs to around there get every free pit you can.  I looked for long and hard to find the 2 I have now and on a poor mans budget you will be much better off.  You remember chica ryan had she was a pound pit and probally one of the best cds I have seen.  Ryan gets some good dogs from me well you know what most are free or pound dogs.   There are not many if any reputable ofrn dogs in tx. I know where there is a male then fthere are w breeders one around waco and san antonio neither hog hunt.  The ones I have found want boocos of money for their dogs. If you truely want onemost arntgoing to adverties so get on the net and go to emailing everyone you find with any ofrn ties. I personally got lucky on craigslist someone didnt know what they had.  If your truely heart set plan on doing some time and emailing/talking to people

I have  been trying many breeds and crosses I do not know anything about a watch list and have not had a bulldog since moving here I want to do things right and not just slap a pack togarher and hope things work out I do rember her she was a great bulldog and was the first bulldog I ever personal sent in to a bay my opinion of you has always been high and still is

I am doing my best to find what I need and want in a bulldog and figured the is the best starting point

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Most of those who keep old/working lines of APBT aren't openly advertising them all over the net, and rightfully so.
And yes, the term "gamebred" is one of the worst over-used, mis-used terms today.

This is true that's why its so hard finding what I am looking for I am wanting to find a breeder so I can  see exactly what I am getting and can get the best start I can

Are you looking to breed your own? If you have no dogs now I would get too proven or solid adults. Then you breed them together so you can test the dogs in the litter hard. if you get the first two you got killed you would have to start over so you can save them since they are worth more to you as producers. if your looking to go the super cheap route, do what everyone else does and go to the pounds, those dogs are breeding quality though so you would always be looking for another dog if the get killed.

As far as American bulldogs being too big..  70 lb - 90 lbs is a good range for catching hogs. No wind or heat problems either.

I am looking for a puppy or young adult so I can start it myself I am a Firm beliver in culling hard

I got a blue bully pit bull razors edge/ghotti blood. Short big and stocky. He's fast hits hard catches  and got the strongest bite I ever seen. Although the way he's built he will gas out fairly quickly if he's got to run a long ways. Usually turn him loose around 80 to 100 yards. Best catch dog I've ever seen. Have had a dogo he was just too dang big and had a red nose pit who was good one too. Caught on the nose every time. 

I own a working bulldog. He is only 11 months old but coming along great. He is from Jam Up Bulldogs. My pup is great around kids and adults. No signs of aggression and plays great with other dogs. He has worked on 4 hogs and caught them all on the ear. Hoping to get him out in the woods are deer season closes out.

I have a 4 year old AB from Yellow Hammer Kennels. Many have hunted behind and seen my Dozer catch. He has won in the show ring he is also our family dog. I know I know ! Lol, but I can take him out and he will catch size swine I put him on. He his performance breed. Can't go wrong with a good solid bread AB.

What's the diffrants in an to pits as far as hunting and personality