EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I have a female walker hound that's fixing to come in to heat I want to breed her to get RCD or really gritty bay dogs that have a good nose and will stop a bad runner she is long range 4-800 yds till in sign but wonnt pass up a fresh track up close she is open on track my question is what should I breed her to to get what I am looking for I am thinking ridgeback or something along them lines I will keep all the female pups

Ridgeback is also a hound but we've crossed hounds with bird/bull and a ridgeback/pit and had dang good RCD. Could run for days and caught good.

I would breed her to a straight catch Bmc

A leggy streamlined pitbull. If you want rougher breed to a long line straight up leggy athletic working pits. Just my opinion but thats what I would do, u may loose a little nose but i dont think you would loose much range or hunt.

Trying to stay away from BMC and cats

The Bmc originated from the ridge back line

I want to keep the hound nose and loud mouth and add ridgeback grittyness and  tight mouth on track

well why would you want to pass up on a cat ?  the dogs I bred were 1/2 walker 1/2 cat and I got just what you are describing that you want . good nose plenty of grit and leg .

 others have gotten what you are wanting with 1/2 walker and 1/2 yaller dog . I don't see the ridgeback giving you any different , except you'll loose any herding ability  that the cur dogs bring to the table .

And where did this bit of breaking news originate from?

what about a jag or a half jag, they have good noses and are pretty gritty,

I just dont care for either I am not stock on ridge backs just see what other options I had

I don't want to lose any leg

You could try a lacy dog all my wife's lacy can run for days and have plenty of grit

seen some nice hound bulldog crosses after that cross u can breed to a good hello dog and have some fine dogs

Prior to Lander establishing his line in 1964 that made the breed a recognizable standard.  The history of curs can be up to anyone's interpatation. Here is a good site that reflects that info

http://www.blackmouthcur.com/History.htm

 Looks like our prideful curs are in fact just mutts that we perfected. I'm not hating on curs I have my own line I run. Jus making a point with the ridgeback it was a blend in one of these centuries.

 Skip the breeding and just find a rough cur dog. Might save you from raising litter after litter.

This will be my first liter bred solely for me :-)

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh.........gotta love perfect though.   :laugh:

Um i believe u had been misinformed.

Breed it to your best bulldog Pit Bull .  Some of the best ones I have see were Walker/Bulldog cross.

I've read that before, and it makes no mention of Ridgebacks.  They were bred in Africa.  I could be wrong, but I don't think any of the early American settlers (who bred curs) came from Africa.

 ;)

The settlers who bred curs where poor. Guess u missed where it talked of trade routes and the breeding the best dogs. I'm not a history buff but the trade routes from Africa was huge in all aspects.  So i might not have worded it correctly ,orriginated ,  but the ridgeback scent hound breed was in the mix, to help form the cur. :)

Iam looking to get a gritty leggy dog with grit and bottom that can work a track good

Iam looking. For some thing diffrentnfrom the bulldog crosses

Breed to a big leggy Plott that will catch. BAM! there you go, if not you can breed to a dogo, or what about a big leggy american bulldog if you do not like an APBT. I think pretty much every good option has been mentioned. Good luck

x2...preferably an established line of APBT of what Justin is saying...you might have to weed out a few culls because of the cross...and selecting the right pups correctly is the other half of breeding better dogs...a good APBT is a gamey dog so it should work...I have known of a few that were outstanding dogs...one was 1/2 plott and the other 1/2 walker...

one reason why I say pick your pups wisely...that 1/2 plott I mentioned in the above post was one heck of a hog dog for striking and stopping/catching hogs...and his littermate brother had no hunt, no bay and no catch to him...don't know about the rest of the litter...

I like others would use a good pit that has leg and wind. I run a ridgeback pit cross. He is a great dog. Ridgebacks are not the grittiest dogs around. Fact is show breeding has taken a lot of that out. Now if u could get ur hands on one u knew for a fact came out of working parents that still had the grit it may work. Walker dogs have all the bottom and nose most would want. Couple that with a good leggy pit that has wind u don't lose much. The key to this cross to me is the pit. Pick the wrong one u lose to much speed and wind.


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