EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

So every time I go to a new place to hunt they always look like they getting ready for Armageddon with all the guns and knives they toting. I don't know these people well and don't know how they gonna act when we go up to a bay with the pulling guns and slinging blades around me and my dogs. Last hunt ole dude brought a AR-15 with him. I know u know where I'm coming from. If anyone shoots a gun around the dogs it's gonna b me. I usually tell them that gun is only for your protection n a bad situation. No shooting around the dogs.  How do y'all handle it?  I mean it is their lease and they letting me hunt their place. But one dog cost  more than their yearly lease.

No guns period besides me and a few of my buddies that I compley trust.

NEGATIVE. Not around my dogs, they may not mean much to anyone else but i like the hell out of all of them, if i didn't i wouldn't own em. 

I'll tell ya something i have noticed over the years, the folks that im worried about  are the over excited eager new to the sport guys who are showin off the gun every chance they get before the hunt. the guys who have them in their bag next to rope, batteries, water and flashlight and never say a word about em being there don't bother me, they have them the same reason i do, just in case...... I take my pistol everytime i go hunting, 99% of the time no one else knows i have it, it stays in the buggy and it is a last resort for me, unless im hunting alone i don't even tote it to the bay. Ifthat makes any sense lol.

I can't tell a man he can't protect himself. I can tell him I am the only one to shoot near dogs. I can tell him before we leave camp if he shoots anyone of my dogs it will cost 6 grand signed by him. At that point he has something to lose. If he don't sign I can load up and go home.


Shotgun
Arkansas

I dont hunt with a lot of new people never have really cared about it myself.  But if I did and they were all carrying guns I would imagine I would not even let a dog loose.  I got buddys now I have known for years that all want to go but carry big rifles and I just have to find some reason not to go .  I have mention it to them that those rifles are just to big and you cannot shoot those things around my dogs because they would leave the country and besides if any shooting gonna be done its by me and only two other guys I turst with it and that is Cory and Kyle anybody else I just leave my dogs in the truck.  Ole Tom Graham was one of the best shots I ever seen in my life around dogs hell he taught me really  and if he was here he would be one other but thats about it.  Its just not worth one of my dogs lives and I would really really feel like crap if it happened !

I dont let anyone carry a gun around my dogs. Old, young, new, been dogging their whole life. It dont matter to me!

I carry a pistol during the daytime n if by myself at night i have a rifle too. If i dont know them, no shooting at all unless its for protection only. The pustol is barely visible n stays in my load vest. If im told no firearms, it goes in the tck n doesnt come out till the hunt is over n im headin home.

Now with it being their lease, ask them not to shoot near the dogs or anywhere in the general direction of the dogs and deffinately no shooting if the target can NOT b clearly identified. The crappy part about ur situation is, ur the guest. All u can do is ask them not pull it or even bring it, but in the end, its ur ultimate decision to turn or not turn the dogs loose if they choose not to ablige ur requst of no guns. All u can do is ask, u wont know their answer if u dont ask.

X2 lol

In all the years I have hunted I never have carried a gun or allowed anyone else to carry one. I have had a buddy get his best dog shot thru the back hip from a hunter carrying a gun for protection only and I was on a hunt where I guy got excited and stabbed a friend thru the hand. I just let them now there will b no guns and not to stab one until I tell them.

I usually start with a safety meeting especially with new hunters.  They are told not to do anything until we know the beast has been caught.  They are also informed that no guns are allowed unless they are willing to pay 5k for shooting a dog.  This pre-meeting usually gets the message across.   Communication is big with me especially when dealing with rookies.

All guns are left at the vehicle with me. All my dogs are gun shy anyway they never have been shot over but I have been hunting around some houses before and people shoot in their yard and my old dog will be straight line out of there and I have to run him down. It's no way id let strangers shoot over my dogs only a select few people if it came down to that

I am with you mule

I think its funny when new guys ask me what kind of gun do I
bring? You don't bring sh!+ around me or my my dogs, stay in your
stand with a gun.!!! That's just asking for trouble unless that's how
how people hunt bay and shot,and the only one shooting is me
if I have to.
My best gun is a dogo named Diago.

All guns are left at the truck or we ain't going! Have had to tell several people they could not take a gun. I carry an extra knife and offer it to them if we decide to kill one!! No amount of money can replace your best dog period!!!

Got a questino for the guys that don't bring a gun. Are you saying you have a gun in the truck or you just don't bring one period? Im not judging in any way, what you do is your decision, same goes for me, I just can't see going to the woods with the intent of catching an animal that can literally beat a dog to a pulp and beat grown man down  ( I know its not a common occurrance but still...) without a gun of some sort at least at the truck. Im not even gonna get started on some of the wierdo's i've run into while hunting that weren't supposed to be on the property I was on. Like I said not trying to start anything but for me, my gun is like having a 4x4 truck........I may not need it and I may not ever use it but its there, just in case......I may be too paranoid lol but with exception to work (chemical plant) I carry a gun almost as much as I carry my wallet/phone...... I like the re-assurance that if it hits the fan I have something to help my crippled ass  ;D

I'm on the same page. I always have my pistol on me, it's habit. Do I plan on using it? No. But you never know what might happen. 

Justin and Krystale, I totally agree.

It wasn't smart but I use to go all the time without a gun or a knife, just tie rope. Just me and my younger brother caught a big boar one night in a deep ditch that was almost waist deep and the bank was straight up on both sides. As soon as I got in to grab the hog I was stuck in mud and couldn't do anything but hold on and pray. Its a long story so I'll spare the details, but it was about as nervous as I had ever been, and I learned right quick that I had better start carrying a knife whether I planned on tying everything or not. I sure was wishing I had one that night. I ended up losing both of my boots, my light died, and had to turn the hog loose to get out. It was a hairy situation. That hog taught me a lesson that night and since then I've always kept a pocket knife on me, extra batteries, and a pistol in the truck.

Look at it this way. "You would rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it."

LAhogger, we all know where you coming from but you say it is their lease! As Charles
mentioned, in this situation you can choose to not put dogs on the ground  or try an explain
it all to them and get them to see things  your way.

I'm saying I don't carry one period. Once the farmers know that you don't carry a gun it works to your benefit in some cases. There will be jealous deer hunters and other hunters who will tell landowners that You know when they are out there hog hunting that they will shoot big deer if they see them. Then the easiest way to make sure you don't is to stop the hog hunting. Then there are also farmers concerned about their cows. If you don't carry a gun it's hard to blame you. I'm not saying all deer hunters are like that either I just know that people get jealous when you are hunting and they are not.

We shoot over our dogs on a routine basis.  If someone new is going I have a short discussion before the hunt about gun safety and how important the dogs are to me.  I tell them to follow me in to the bay and let me call the shot.  However, most of the new hog hunters that I have carried are seasoned hunters on other types of game.

ITS FUNNY THIS TOPIC CAME UP. I HAVE A FRIEND THAT HASNT TALKED TO ME IN TWO WEEKS . I GOT  ON TO HIM FOR SHOOTING AROUND MY DOGS . WE WHERE HUNTING HIS SPOT BUT HE SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME HE WAS GOING TO SHOOT AND I WOULD HAVE LEFT THEM IN THE BOX. 

what about my massive guns attached to my shoulders








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I guess they could cut off at the shouldr joint, carterize the wound n lv them in the tck on ice. Once yaw r done, rush u to the er n hope the can sew them back on.  ;D

Your dogs, your choice. My dogs, Springfield Armory 45 ACP! I've had guys try and strap up like they were going to war and talked  with them about the true need of the firearm and I'm not Gonna tell any American they can't carry their firearm!!!!! Hunter safety and common sense should prevail.

Sometimes I will have one in the truck sometimes I don't but I never think about that while hunting and no one brings one with us. Most of the time it wouldn't do any good to have it because it's usually to thick to see 5 foot where the hog will be bayed. But I have recently bought a ranger and it has a gun rack already in it so I have considered putting a gun in there just incase i run up on some dog thieves or something like that but I would not be shooting over any dogs for any reason. If I can't catch the hog I do not want it any other way regardless of what he has done

I carried one when I first time I shot over a dog was the last time it scared me to much now I just carry my big knife. I'm a good shot practice plenty but it's just to hairy shootin around dogs. Especially other people's dogs.

I've been running dogs for about seven years now even when I was coon huntin I was iffy in who had the gun or who shot now I have seven dogs that I run and it took me 3 years to tweak and change and get to where I catch hogs pretty regular and I'm not real keen on the idea of some one with a gun around them not to mention if my main dog even sees a rifle u may as well no even turn her loose because she going to stay by my feet because she is terrified of guns and people who haven't hunted with dogs before are like "oh I'm bringing a gun" no your not because if u get scared about something running up on you and you shoot of my dogs for rarely check in . I don't carry a gun my buddy carrys a pistol and if u didn't know he had it u wouldn't he call it his emergency stop button invade some thing bad goes wrong which is understandable if a dog get cut to bad for help put it out of its misery or a big hog and it goes south kill it before it does further damage but I usually don't allow guns unless I trust the person with it just my opinion

at least yu guys have an option. here in california all hogs must be shot with centerfire firearm or archery. and its 3 dogs per hunter and so that means you need one liscensed hunter for each three dogs and that hunter must have the equiptment capable of legally taking hogs with.

Guns for show...knives for a pro..;-)

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U ever tried to knife a 320 lb boar hog when your catch dog is laying there dead fixitlouie?  No catch dog no gun and dogs ain't gonna quit baying. Now what?  U ever had a boar bust a bay while u headed there and he charges u? No trees to climb and catch dog no where to be seen? Then what?  I always carry a gun even if it's a .22.

Gary, I can't believe the crap you guys gotta put up with to dog hunt.

Better to have one an not need it than to need one and not have it. Have a designated gun toter you trust ( or yourself) but i'd be real uncomfortable with every tom, dick n harry on the hunt packin heat

Yep

I used to always say the same thing. No guns! I have a new helper that was insistent on always bringing his 40cal pistol. It was last Saturday that I told him never leave home without it.

Dropped 2 of my dogs against my will due to no sign, they made a 700yd loop and came back to 500 and bayed. We get within 150yds then walk the cd in. We got about 50-70yds from the bay and the dogs stopped barking. They came to me checked in and went back to baying, only this time a walking bay. We got within 15yds in the thicket and my new help hollered big hog so I sent the cd. On impact he was thrown and the hog continued walking my 2 baydogs. I see my cd walking clumsily to the hog so I grab him up walk him to the hog and he is pulling to get to the hog again so I let him go and he fell over. His leg was broke! With no catchdog to send and a hog walking my top 2 dogs something had to be done. My help waited till the dogs both went to the rear and he put it down. A bad situation could have gotten a lot worse with no gun. My cd now has on an external fixator and the hog head is in the freezer awaiting a European mount. Always carry a gun and always have it in responsible hands. It can save dogs lives as well as peoples. The hog weighed in at 315 with a 3"cutter and a 2.75" cutter
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That's a helluva boar Cody! Hope your bulldog is ok.

Thanks Mike. Vet said 1month of meds and the fixator then he will pull one side of the fixator and leave the other in for a month longer. He has been home for exactly a week and he has been puttin weight on it for a few days. The hard headed sob wants to get back to his job but he will sit out till at least mid summer. I made another post with the story so others can see. Hope all is well on your end also. I still owe you and Travis a hunt too when y'all are out this way

I would just talk to the landowner and tell him what you would like.. Just don't get him to mad good hunting places are real hard to get! Most people that never hunted with dogs just don't know they just think it is hunting so they have to have guns!!