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Is Connecticut going to be ground zero?

The recent gun laws that are taking place in Connecticut. This is a trap for all gun owners. How in the hell are they going to charge the AMERICAN people of Conecticut a class D FELONY for having these illegal "weapons".This is unconstitutional and I do not believe The People are going to stand by and let our govt get away with this. We don't know what is going to come of this yet but I have a feeling it is not good. In light of these recent events I showed my support by buying 10 more hi cap mags and 500 extra rounds of 5.56.Texas, do not try this. We will not lay down.
Come and Take It.
GW

So gun owners who actually tried to register their guns and magazines, intentionally late or not, are now on the state’s radar for owning guns that became illegal overnight. Owning an unregistered semi-automatic rifle or high-capacity magazine that was legal prior to Jan. 3 is now a class D felony under the new law.
 

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Come n take it. Ill give mine up, bullets first. Between the north east and california, this country is going to hell fast. The criminals will still have or get them "illegal" weapons n rain havoc upon the honest citizens.
Them law makers ought to be tied to a rail road track n let the train run them over.

The government wants SHEEPLE.  Republican or Democrat, doesn't matter.  SHEEPLE are easily swayed, they are shown shiny lights and distracted with nonsense.  I hate to say it, the 'weaker' we become as a populace the more they will take away. It's not going to stop.

It's sad. Hopefully living in Texas will delay it for a while, but it is coming.

And I know everyone wants to think that the government will have to pry their guns from their cold dead hands, but I can't think of a single case in history where they didn't win that fight.  Good luck, but when they come for your guns they will be leaving with them. 

And I know everyone wants to think that the government will have to pry their guns from their cold dead hands, but I can't think of a single case in history where they didn't win that fight.  Good luck, but when they come for your guns they will be leaving with them.

Well sadly after doing some research most of our guns will be taken unknowingly. When we are at work or out of town or done other scenario. The government knows they will spark another civil... Wait no another revolutionary war if they go about taking them head on.
 
This is just a small excerpt follow the link for more info.
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/newsarchives/XcNewsPlus.asp?cmd=view&articleid=327
If you think they’ll come at these multiple-gun owners with a swat team, guess again.  Their most likely tactic will be yet another letter (maybe two more) that generate what they’ll call “insufficient responses”.  That means they can’t track a gun after you owned it.  This they’ll use as fodder for a search warrant and/or perjury charges at a later date if they can.  My guess is that the time between April and August will be a bad time for a lot of “former” gun owners. Remember that the BATF is an arm of the Treasury department and they control the IRS. You’ll probably get a notice in the mail that the IRS has some questions about your taxes or wants to audit you.  When you make the appointment to visit the IRS they will pass that information to the BATF.  While you are sweating over your deductions, the BATF and local police will execute a search warrant and search your home looking for guns.  With you safely off site and distracted, essentially forced into “the royal presence” of the IRS they will snag your guns.  Expect them to use slow-scan and ground penetrating radar to search walls, yards, under the patio or deck, the basement, etc.  You might even find your hot tub has been drained and moved.  Yes, they’ll search your car in the IRS parking lot too.



Given the chance any warm blooded constitution loving patriotic American will fight to the death for our rights that are being stripped away, myself included.
We the People need to wake up and realize our constitution and out bill of rights is being stripped away from us more and more everyday.

I don't want a fight but I will not be a Sheople.
Come and take it!
GW

I can only speak on Florida because truthfully that's really all I follow.  I do know however just from what has been passed to me, this has happened in other states as well.

Almost every sheriff in Fl has stated and in the case of my sheriff sent a letter statin we will NOT enforce ANY federal law restricting a persons lawful right to the second amendment.  More specifically high capacity magazines and "assault weapons".  Now that being said, anyone ever see how the federal law enforcement agencies work?  Have any first hand experience with them?  Theres not enough for a door to door search looking for guns.

Also check this website out, before everyone starts talking about the cops and military coming for your guns.

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/

 they may get some, but they wont get all, and when the person comes home to find his house has been vandalized, stuff broken and guns along with other personal belongings stolen. whats the first thing they will do? dial 911 for a swine unit to show up and file a theft report. at that point insurance should be the next number dialed. more than likely (depending on the insurance company) the person will get their insurance ck and have already bought new weapons before the pig patrol gets caught up on their back log of 10s or 100s of other "theft" cases. if a seiseour (sp) notice is left, then every1 effected should all pitch in and hire the best constitutional lawyer and go from there.



that gun aint no good once ur dead, so after ur last breath was taken, so what, let them have it.

as long as there is a 10/1 or better ratio of dead, then it was a good fight.
criminals are still gonna get weapons. the gov is disarming the wrong people. oh yea, they don't care.

I'll never give up my guns. They'll disappear.

they'll be handed over peacefully a few at a time. not too many are gonna give up pussy, beer and nascar to go live in the woods and fight another revolution. and what good would it do? how does a man with an AR-15 fight satellites, radar, guided missiles and 25 million dollar bounties?

American freedom began to choke to death when the rednecks and conservatives sat idly by and watched as state troopers and national guardsmen beat and killed hippie war protesters during the Vietnam era. regardless of how you feel or felt about their politics . . that was the exact moment that the gov't realized that they could divide us into small groups and conquer us one at a time.

Hate to say it but you are correct Barlow!


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The sad part is, id give my last breath protecting you from the crap that youre sure is coming. And this is the thanks I/we get?  Let someone bad mouth a military member and youd be the first to jump on them.

if ur 1 of the 1s in that precinct that would gladly walk into some1s house and seize their weapons, then yea, swine unit. I have the utmost respect for law enforcement officers having to deal with the crappy jobs and people on a daily basis, the honest 1s at least, but I have NO use for law enforcement officer that will abuse his/her power of the badge for self gain, to bully or any other immoral or illegal act, especially seizure of private weapons. so get off ur high horse, if the shoe fits wear it, if it don't then push it to the side, and NO I wouldn't protect many of these lazy a$$ turds that call themselves soldiers.

again, just like cops, there are good soldiers and there are true, would pi$$ of them to put them out type soldiers, and I have had both under my leadership. those that wanted to excel and go above and beyond, I would mentor more than those who chose to sit on the side line, smoke cigs, go out and get hammered and then come in reeking of booz and get me in trouble bc they showed up drunk on duty. I would throw them under the bus in heart beat and see to it that the full power of the military legal system came crashing down on them. 

At which point in the filth you were spewing did you ever differentiate between good cops and bad cops.  im fairly certain we were all lumped together, and yes, i find it offensive.  High horse nothing.  I give people who sacrifice having a normal a high degree of respect, obviously we differ there.

And secondly to the original poster.  The state gave them an out.  "Remove from the state".  "Ok i sold all mine a guy in (pick a state)"

"do you know his name?"

"No they don't register firearms there so i assumed the government would take care of it"

Damn that sounds a lot easier than "guided missiles".


But hey im just an ignorant pig working swine patrol.

Again, if the shoe fits wear it. If u wanna assume u r lumped in with the crooked 1s, them lump urself with them, i dont care either way

And secondly to the original poster.  The state gave them an out.  "Remove from the state".  "Ok i sold all mine a guy in (pick a state)....

To me it sounds like you are for more gun control. Why should I have to give my guns to someone else to hold so they will not be confiscated illegally by our govt? What good does a gun do me if it is not loaded and ready to shoot? Much less than if it is miles away.

Who said anything about actually giving them to someone else?

 Thus the "i sold them to a guy in another state"

"whats his name?"

"Dunno didn't ask"

And i was a gun enthusiast, shooter long before i was a law enforcement officer so no i am not for more gun control, with the exception of criminals and persons with mental conditions.  An unarmed person is no good to themselves or the public in general.

It's sad that we may have to lie about owning certain firearms.

YEP!!!!! Guns dont kill people, people kill people. Guns just make it easier. People been kiilin others with sticks and rocks for 1,000s of yrs and still do it in some countries.
The gov knows people are fed up with their crap and disarming the citizens makes a revolt less of a chance. They would rather prevent the people from defending theirselves and their right, rather than the gov policing their corrupt actions.
BOHICA!!!!

gun reregistration won't spark a sucessful revolution. Only a economic collapse will.I know we like to think it will but it won't. I think an arab spring type situation could happen if there is a economic collapse.CentralTex 254 is correct it will not be like austrailia they will just arrest you at work or when your kids are at school they will be taken into dfs custody. you will be arrested a few raids at a time. over a long period or a few states at a time just like the nazis did the jews. Only severe economic collapse will spur a popular uprising large enough to effect the desired return to a constitutional republic. The chances of that putting us back on track is unlikley because someone will likley be pulling strings to undermine the revolution for their own ends.Just like the muslim brotherhood did in the arab spring.  The founders of this country were special men. The were not only brilliant but moral men by inlarge. if you study the influences they had you can see where their ideology came from. I don't see anyone on the the scene today with the right educational background and solid morals to bring that about again. It was not just the founding fathers but a whole generation of americans influenced by Their christian faith,the bible and the laws of the greeks and romans. Plutarch, Blackstone,Algernon Sidney, Samuel von Pufendorf, Jean-Jacques Burlamaqui, and Emmerich de Vattel.  Hugo Grotius was a heavy influence on samual von pufendorf who wrote: Of the Law of Nature and Nations and Of the Duty of Man and Citizen.  I have personally read neither.I doubt any of you have either. I have read the federalist papers but most don't even bother with that. They wont ask you to read the whole constitution in school anymore and havent for sometime.Those influences i mentioned are just a few of the more prominent ones. i bet most never even heard of them.What you and I ( evn the oldest living americans) know of our true history is almost nothing. That is the problem. we have a revolution and then what? How will we put it back together without this knowledge? Armed insurrection is not the answer! It will not only fail but play right into the globalist hands. They have plans for these kind of situations. If you want to be prepared learn how to pray fervently for your country. If you want to return to our founding then start in the founding faith then read the things the founders read and share what you learn with all who will listen and If you have partaken of the corruption of our culture and nation.... REPENT OF IT! don't let your children watch propaganda movies that are being put out today. find out the truth of our origins and teach your children home school them if you have to.Stop buying into the idea that teachers are heros they are the ones who have done this to us.The public school and television are the way this misinformation was propagated upon us. get a group of like minded friends and use the fire out of school board meetings to find out what is being taught to your children and grand children.go to jail for speaking your mind if need be. If you don't have the discipline to do this then you don't have the discipline to put off tyranny with arms either.We always draw this imaginary line in the sand with gun confiscation and say "if they cross this one we will rise up. Hello! thats the last right of last resort. What makes you think that your man or woman enough to stand up and die when that time comes after you just knuckled under like a sissy  and let every other right be taken away when all it took was some civic responsibility. I'm not talking about obama voters im talkin about country folk who know better like you and I.I tell you what will happen a few will shoot it out and the rest when faced with a choice between choosing this hill to die on and loosing house, job, friends, children, life as we now know it; what if tomorrow you woke up and were given the choice to fight it out with federal forces removing your guns without like minded friends to hang with just you no one else in town.on your mowed lawn with the hog dogs out back and the horses in the pasture. wife and kids asleep inside. Just you. Or you could fight it in the courts and continue to live life normally and complain online about it. which choice would you make when your honest with yourself. alot of guns have been confiscated in this country and I have eyes to see the choice most make. It isnt armed insurrection either.The early americans were from a culture where men would duel to the death for a small slur on their integrity. They believed in sacred honor above all else and they were willing to make the choice to die today alone just to avoid losing that. I don't know a single person today whose word is truly their bond in all things.If you called jefferson a dog peddler he would challenge you then and there.If you love your country pray and work on your own moral disciplines and that of your sons so if the time comes  at least we or our sons will have the moral strength to remold this nation into a great republic again. moral decay is the enemy not tyrants. Tyrants were here during the founding.thats all.

If you live in Connecticut its time to move. Colorado started messing with gun laws and gun makers started moving.

Man jagd you have some really good points and yes for me to shoot another human being would be the last step I would ever consider. I could not imagine havin to kill someone but I was raised to stand up for my family first and what I believe in second. If I could do something to better the future for my family and stick with my moral values you better bet that I will do it.

Agreed!  Florida doesn't register them, anyone asks, I don't own any.  ;D


Check your PMs.

jagdtank , you were apparently raised like me !

Bravo sir!!

You think they are gonna tell the police to take your weapons because you are a tax paying voting citizen? Hell no they won't they'll tell em your a meth head woman abuser... They aren't going to tell the police the truth... Thats the craziest part! The police won't even know who they are raiding!! They'll talk about us like waco...

And heck no Connecticut isn't ground zero... Ground zero happened a long time ago brothers

  Limited grandfather provisions apply to those who registered otherwise banned items before January 1, 2014.  Others in possession could face felony penalties for violations.  President Obama himself was in Connecticut four days after this bill became law, praising it as a model for the nation.

The problem with that was a lot of people did not know about the dead lines until it was too late. They sent theirs in too late and now are on a list of suspects.