EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Just curious who had or has the best you have ever been with!

A young lad from the texas hill country. ;) he has a couple i cant figure out which one is better...

Coyote hounds-my dad.

Bear and cougar hounds-my buddies brother in Utah.

Rabbit beagles- older gentleman from my home town.

Hog dogs-not sure. We got decent dogs, run and catch hogs every time out, but they aren't the best, just the best for us.

Hard to admit, but I seen a yellow dog put on a one dog show this weekend.  Ill never know for sure if it is the same boar or not that we been chasing for years but he held the old boar long enough for us to catch him finally.   If it was him myself and a few others been chasing him a few years.    He would break and run strait over any thing in his way and run threw another group of hogs & break the dogs of himself.   This hog was the real deal.  This yellow dog is the real deal!!!

Not sure whos dogs are the best........but the "best" time I have ever had hunting is behind my dogs. lol   

Orval Roberts, mike Caully/boyou cayjoun and tom franklin all great hounds

Theres a feller close to Jena, LA that has the best dogs in the state.

What's his name hillbilly I work with a bunch of boys from up that way

RD Eaves has had a few yellow dogs that will sure put pork in the truck.  Old dog sow.  A Dog named levi . and best young dog I've hunted behind in a while Sue.... not mine but best I've hunted with.

I hav the most fun catching hogs with my own too. But I think the best I've hunted with are owned by a man from Oklahoma/Arkansas named Clay Hurst. Not a big fan of spotted dogs but he's got some that made me think twice about them. Boar Collector is a very very close second. Two completely different styles between the two but I was impressed with both sets.

For several years I was fortunate enough to bear hunt behind some of the best Plotts in the country . . which I guess means in the world. They belonged to a number of different veteran hunters and breeders and represented several strong families of dogs. But when I spent several months hog hunting with Bob Owens in winter 07/08 it forced me to reevaluate what a dog was capable of and gave me a new outlook on how dogs worked in general. He had a gyp named Dot that was just plain spooky. Sometimes I wasn't sure if she even tracked or trailed . . or even went looking for hogs. It was like she just had a radar. On any number of occasions I watched as the woods were hunted out by good dogs . . and afterwards, half jokingly . . either myself or someone else would suggest that we turn Dot loose. And time after time she'd limp out on three legs and bay multiple hogs where they previously had not existed. She was ugly and had bad conformation. Not a very good mouth. She doesn't seem to have been much of a reproducer. But before her I was convinced that cur dogs were hot nosed squirrel dogs and lacked the conviction to do what came naturally to most hounds. And she was ten years old or older the first time I saw her. She'd been injured badly years before. A big boar had bit her back leg in half and it still took a four wheeler going at top speed over a half mile to run her down and catch her off the boar while the severed leg was spinning freely like a windmill fan. So, admittedly, that one got away. But not very many more. She was quick. She was fearless and determined. She was smarter than most folks' kids and she was rougher than a damned stucco toilet seat. She really was greater than the sum of her parts.

I was pretty serious about Plotts. And about bear hunting. I don't have Plotts anymore. Not because there aren't plenty of great ones out there. Not because I think there's anything consistently better for catching bears. But because I'd rather spend the rest of my years fooling around with lesser dogs trying to produce another like Dot . . than to own a truckload of good ones that will somehow always seem like punks next to that old pointy headed bitch.

Dot (lying down) in 2009.

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Thats a great story Barlow- even coming from a plott guy like myself.  It would be great if everyone would describe the best dog they ever saw, just like Barlow did.  There are a lot of great dogs out there, but when a man can describe why one was better than the rest, it means something.

Mr Bob has had quite a few good dogs. Im good friends with his son, and he has some good dogs himself. Jimbob needs a few spotted dogs to complete his pack though! ;D

x3 on the Barlow story...I can appreciate someone who knows what a good dog is as well...

rather not say his name he his kinda shy

I've seen and hunted behind a handful of what I consider top dogs, but I don't know anyone to consistently have top dogs like that young lad in the hill country.

I'd feel confident that I could walk up to his kennels, point out any dog in there, and we could take it and produce pork.

I've had the pleasure of hunting behind some real nice dogs owned by different people but I can't say that I've seen that one super dog yet that just stood above the rest.  The dogs that I enjoyed hunting behind the most so far were BigO's Lisa, now owned by BigBen and BigBen's Ginger.  Those two dogs just seemed to compliment each other very well.  Both have plenty of hunt,  nose, bottom and can flat move a track.  The first time I hunted behind them was the first time I really got to see well bred stock dogs work and I have been sold on them ever since.

i've hunted with lisa and ginger and have to agree . i've never met clay hurst but have penned and caught cattle with his daddy and he is a top notch cowboy , dog man and feller !

the best cowdog i ever worked behind was clues cowboy , sire to lisa , and maybe ginger , i can't remember. if he had been a hog dog he would have been the best hog dog i ever seen .

John, Lisa and Ginger are both Cowboy x Sarah, just different litters.  A year apart I believe.

The dog I ve enjoyed watchin the most the past couple years peaches owns is his lady dog. She's doesn't get talked a whole lot on here but she's a damn sure no joke hog dog. Many times I ve seen her pull a hog out her ass and get it bayed after running it for hours on end. She's best dog I ve seen.

I d have to agree with peaches though I ve never hunted with the hill country lad myself but I have seen and hunted behind some pups outta his dogs and they re hard to beat. Nose bottom drive they have it all and seem to turn it on at a very young age.

Best dogs I ever seen was not hog dogs but coon dogs own by my pe paw and uncle seems like growing up in Ellis county we would hit spots all around them hounds they had would be on a coon lickdy split and be treed like champs. Days long past I have seen many good dogs but those where the best or at least I thought so at the time my uncle is to old and crippled up to hunt any more and old pe paw been gone for years now but sure does bring back good ole times thinking bout em


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A dog by the name of bubba that passed away a couple years ago that a good buddy of mine owned, he wasn't the fastest, strongest, roughest or smartest BUT he had "IT". I caught more hogs behind that dog than any that I have ever owned and I cut my hog doggin teeth followin him thru the woods for quite a long while. He could do it all and do it all by himself, we used to and still do road our dogs quite often, turnin a 2-3 out at a time, if bubba was on the ground and the other dog/dogs cut into the woods and he didn't you rarely heard a bay, that dog didn't want or care to trash on anything, he was there for one thing, hogs, and he knew it. in his older years he would sit on the front rack of the 4wheeler unchained as we eased thru a property and would look back at his owner and yap 1 time when he wanted to get off, my buddy would stop and off bubba would go, 99.9% of the time if that dog got off the 4wheeler it was time to get everything ready because we were about to be on a hog. Almost all of the dogs in my yard go back to bubba one way or another and maybe one day one of these pups will raise up to look and act like he did, in my opinion he was as true a hogdog as there ever lived. Lots and lots of fond memories were made in the woods behind that dog, wish he was still around.

The best dog I've ever hunted behind was a saddle back plot Craig Loftin had , this dog was cold nosed and would seem to find hogs no matter the distance , we would follow her on mules for hours , we had thousands of acres to hunt and Annie would always get off it , Craig said bob I'm selling Annie , she's to much dog for our spots , she's gonna get us in trouble , I was heart broke but he was right , I learnt what to much dog meant , he sold her I believe to circle c , I had the privilege to let my dogs hunt behind her for a couple of winters and it helped them to progress tremendously , Annie was treated for heart worms in Texas and laid off for awhile to heal up from treatment , she was healed to later meet her end on a hunt I believe ,   Great  great dog  R.I.P. ANNIE

Mike always compares annie to my lady dog. Where did craig get her? I think mike thinks they may have come from the same guy in northern oklahoma.

I'm not sure where he got her  , I'll haft to ask him, Craig is always dealing , traliors , cows , dogs , you name it lol , she was a good one for sure and a looker also , almost all the dogs I have are from Craig's line breeding program , great BMC  dogs

Interesting topic


Sonny

It's hard to say the best I have ever seen. I'm going to do three if that will be ok. Not in order of best just more age. 1 was a dog named black jack when I first started hunting with the man I begin hunting with he owned black jack no one knows exactly what he was said maybe catahoula and black mouth but he was definetly a hog dog he was like a magician he could make a hog it seemed on some days when things was slow and no sign out of nowhere he would find one he was silent on track with miles and hours of bottom he was a black dog with legs and scared to death of a hog I've seen him bay 20lb pigs and if they ran at him he would roll off 50 yards and go back and bay like it was a stud but he was a excellent hog dog lived to be 15 or 16.
2. Was a dog named orange he was half black mouth half Kemmer curr he didn't have a lot of hunt mainly just around the four wheeler or on fresh sign but when he got on a track he was gonna put you on a bay whether it be pretty quick or later on in the day he had no quit to him I've probably put more miles on four wheelers after this dog than a lot of people drive to work all year he was trash broke from day 1 and completely silent on track and was like black jack he would bay a pig all day we have sent two bulldogs to him numerous times and it end up being only a little squeak when they got there. He lived to be around 8 and was owned by the same man that owned black jack. After garmins came out I took him by myself one day after a rain and ride til I found a good track and reset my tracker and him and one black jacks pups bayed one after 18 miles on the garmin but I know when he was 3 and 4 he's been on races farther than that but he would of been a hog dog in anyone's book.
3. Is a dog named jack he is out of orange and a Dixie land jag. He's a smaller dog but I've seen this dog cold trail a lot of hogs that good dogs didn't know ever been there. And it seems like he likes to bay big hogs he is owned by a friend of mine from tennesse and is just as good as a bear dog as hog dog he won't tree but will bay one on the ground and can trail with the hounds. The reason I picked all three of these dogs is because of their bottom they had no quit and jacks getting old now but is still a hog dog but when these dogs bayed you didn't have to worry about hurrying getting to them they wasn't going to leave a bay after no two hours they was there until you sent the bulldog and would be leaving out after they seen the hog was caught. It's not everyday dogs like these are born but when they are they are they sure are fun to hunt with. I can think of couple more outstanding dogs but these were the best I've ever hunted with

The best dogs I ever hunted with were walker deer dogs my dad had. We trailed gut shot deer with them at probly 3 to 4 months old and the pups found the deer. As adults u could turn them out and u were gonna be slinging lead shortly. This was back when deer numbers in the AR delta were low. If they started a race u had to kill the deer or u would be chasing dogs until u cut them off and grabbed them or the next day. I have seen those dogs stretch a buck deer out for over 19 hours before we caught them. They were fine deer dogs.

Best hog dog so far was ol bob. He was an old dog when I first met him but he didn't know it. U put him on the ground and if there is a hog to be found he would do it. If he jumped u would find pork when he stopped. That ol dog could flat move a track as well. He got on a big bore one morning about 730 I guess the old sucker bayed that hog I don't know the number of times. We covered no telling how many miles. At 330 that afternoon we picked ol bob up. We didn't catch that one but it dang sure wasn't his fault. I think bob was around 9 years old then. He is still hunting at 13 or better. He is still producing pork. That ol dog is what I would like to have at some point.


Shotgun
Arkansas

Best dogs I've ever seen came from cajun mike cauley they flat out get it .I've had cur dogs for the last 17 yrs and I'm gradually Goin bayou cajun plotts.

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