EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

If mine cross a fence I follow them what do y'all say!

Yep..even in the middle of a gater infested lake...

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I don't take my stuff with me. I drop everything on me before I cross a fence that way if the land owner comes out I can assure them I'm not poaching.

Great thread.

   

After I call the landowner and get permission

I wonder how many point their dogs towards the fence or let them go at the fence...I guess that may be another thread.

If my dogs cross a fence and bay, I try to get permission first, then go second.  If they cross a fence and don't bay, I wait; there is a good chance they go through the property or loop around.

Only reason for me to immediately cross a fence if I believe dogs may go to goats, farm pigs, or some other defenseless animals.

I gotta follow em through it, as long as I ain't cuttin nobody's fence down around here they don't have a problem with it. If the landowner tells us we can go and to make a gap I usually go with them back there and watch them cut the fence, too many people have cut fence around here in the past and gotten other people in trouble not having permission and someones cows or horses come up missing

I just start hunting on the other side of the fence its where all the hogs are right? Its not the property you have its the property around it that makes it good haha

I think too many people now a days use there dogs as an excuse to trespass. If my dogs are bayed I always try to get permission. Just because they crossed a fence isn't enough reason to trespass. In my opinion I think that's why hog doggers have a bad reputation.

I do not hunt a place unless i have at least 2k acres. with my dogs they will get off anything less. Only way I hunt less is if I have previous permission from land owners to retrieve my dogs. Then I walk... Don't cut fences, pull staples, or anything like it I walk my happy a$$ whether it be 200 yards or 2miles. Too many people are way too lazy to use their 2 feet, and I believe that is why hog hunters have the bad rep they have...

I don't give a damn how many k's you have a dog cant read no trespass signs or knows any better than crossing fences you will wind up in the wrong place if you have good dogs doesn't mean your wrong for going and getting your dogs if they are doing what they are trained to do!!!!

As long as you do everything you can to stop them then your right, I don't think retrieving your dogs is wrong. But the fella who's land you could be on may think different, and the GW doesn't give a $hit if the dogs can read or not. It also boils down a lot to character. Be where you belong and don't be where you don't belong. It's whats right.

    You are part of the problem.

Who's part of the problem honest is honest

Find out as many land owners in the area. And usually they all know each other or know of each other. They can vouch for you sometimes and have your back. As far as going in after them, heck yeh I am. Swam the Angelina earlier today after they stopped one 50 yards on the other side of the river.

I try to have permission before I go on all of the neighboring properties.

Most tell me to go get your dogs and I will be mad if you don't kill the hog.

Keeping a good reputation is top priority for me.

Yes yes yes amen brother!!

That's what I do. I will get permission from adjacent land owners or leases I hunt to atleast retrieve my dogs. That question has gained me access to hunt that property as well. Then I ask his adjacent land owners or leeses until I get the retrieve only answer for all adjoining property. Then I go hunt. It may take me several weeks to contact them all before I hunt a place but the original owner is usually pleased I make that effort and helps me gain access. In today's world of very little respect for others and their property. Reputation is worth more than real good dogs.


Shotgun
Arkansas

Why bother telling the world that your gonna break the law if your dogs do?
Do whatever you gotta do, but there's no need to talk about it on the Internet.

In Louisiana law says you have permission to go get your dog in Texas you do not have permission unless you contact the landowner!! It is always better to try to get permission even if the law says you can go get them. Some people believe just be cause they give you permission to go get your dogs mean you can hunt it!! there will always be people that play by the rules and those that don't. I try do live my life doing what is right!! But I am wrong most of the time!!!

This was the first thought to cross my mind before this thread every had a response.  Why tell the world that you blatantly intend to break the law?

You said it alot nicer than i could have, this thread is pointless.


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 Well I just built me an electric bobwire kennell, and painted the corner post purple, also make sure to beat my dogs 3 times daily with a no treaspass sign. So I don't run into these problems!  ;D problem solved!

I say that if your dogs cross a fence and you don't have the # to the landowner adjacent to your pastures or even adjacent to the place adjacent to your pastures, then you're either lazy, ignorant or just don't care about your dogs' well being. Do some research and talk to the landowners around you and you might not have to end up sharing your places with other hog hunters. This ain't Open Range and you sir are no Kevin Costner. Either do it legit or save your money and go buy Cabelas Dangerous Game for Xbox.

On the ranches we hunt which are big and we don't get off much but have in the past , it's a instant phone call , we always have a ranch hand with us , hey are dogs got over on you , go get them or I'll unlock the gate , it's all about respect , respect will get you respect ,

We do it as legal as we can every situation is different a smart hog followed by a good dog and you can wind up anywhere was just looking for opinions and situations some of y'all have been in and how you dealt with them

Quotes like this on a public forum is the reason I feel like I spend more time defending our reputation and keeping property then I actually get to run.....Doggers have a certain sterotype and the ol timers also have a sterotype of certain groups of kids that run around town dog boxes loaded down.....I will just leave it at that..

Cover all bases before you hunt!

Fully agree with this response.  Their is nothing wrong with being a hog hunter and having class and ethics too.  I love the comment about kids running around with dog boxes- so true!!!  Lots of people out there think their image is big and bad because they are a "hog hunter".  LOL

Very interesting thread


Sonny

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If you know you have long dogs or dogs with bottom and put them on a property that is evident is too small to run them on than, it's not the dogs fault it's the owners, dogs absolutely do not read no trespassing signs and that's why we have to be held responsible for the positions we put them in,
A dog that truly hunts it's backside of doesn't need to be on a small property surrounded by places it cannot be. It is all the same to thr dog but the owner should know better.
This thread is a subject the probably shouldn't have been brought up in the public
Common sense isn't so common

If I'm on a property where I know there is even a remote chance of the dogs crossing a fence, I contact the neighboring land owners PRIOR to hunting to let them know what I'm doing and what time I'll be hunting/finishing. Makes things much easier when they do cross a fence and the land owners appreciate the heads up. Showing a neighboring land owner that you are a responsible hunter will get you access to more land. My question is, why wouldn't you take the time to cover all your bases, be prepared and do everything legally? If you don't take the time and make an effort to do these sorts of things you risk hurting the reputation of our sport.

I follow my dogs everywhere they go, but I also know where they are going.  I have already made contact at some point and time with all the landowners around and ask them if my dogs go in their place, if I can retrieve them.  They all say yes, and to kill the pig as well.  I check with them now and again just to make sure everything is ok, and so far all of them say no need to come back and ask, if the dogs go there, go get em and kill that dang pig! 

I would worry way to much if I didn't know any landowners around, and my dogs went in there.  All it takes is one mad landowner to end up shooting all of your dogs. 

From the responses on this thread I believe it has for the most part shown  we respect the neighbors. It also shows the up and comers the proper way to do things.


Shotgun
Arkansas

I tell the land owner I no speak english......then get my dogs..

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If my dogs are caught. Well I'm crossing the fence regardless of where it is. But if it's a bay I'll try and get permission first. Just depends on the situation.

Absolutely, it is Definently good that if wandering eyes cane to this thread that 90% of response entail getting permission or in some fashion showing respect landowners to lighten our image.
And Definently good for younger or just new hunters to see an example of character to go by.
But on the same note it is something everyone who hunts has to do at one point or another and ranks right along with culling in my opinion when it comes to being appropriate for the internet or not, ya know what I'm saying?
But that is just my .02 cents.

I have a couple dogs I can't take hunting everytime because their so hard to get back and it would be impossible to contact all the surrounding land owners because it's just no telling where they will go. I do not take these dogs during deer season or turkey season because of their ways. But after deer and turkey season I'll be able to start taking them to some places where they can go whichever way they want and be ok. But it's no way I could take them knowing I might not could get them back before daylight in turkey season it's just a responsibility I have as a dog owner. As far as going get them where they go yea I'm going but I try not to take high power dogs to a place where the joining landowner is a prick and hates dogs I'll usually just take some young dogs or something like that to them places. When I was 16 or so I loved to hunt and really didn't have a place to hunt that was full of hogs so I would just about hunt anywhere I thought it was hogs and didn't think I would see anyone but as I got older for the most part I got out of that it's just not worth it to me to hunt somewhere I think I might get a dog shot or me get in a lot of trouble.  I'm just as happy not going run a hog a couple of hours where I'm suppose to be as I would be in catching 10 somewhere I'm not suppose to be.

I'll cross the fence when I hear a hog squealing. I run the opposite direction if I hear a cow mooing.

Lol I would like to see that