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I've got two dogs that have been kenneled together for the past year or so. One is about 4yrs and the other is about 2yrs. I haven't had a problem with them fighting since I first kenneled them together. All of a sudden they have started fighting each other... It usually starts out as play but after a few minutes they start drawing blood. Any ideas on what is going on? My guess is the younger dog is trying to show dominance and the older dog isn't having it.  They are both females. I've separated them but it's gotten to the point that when I let them out to stretch their legs they immediately seek each other out and go at it. Any ideas on how to stop this? I've seen each dog start the fight so I'm not really sure what's going on.

In my opinion u are dead on. Had litter mate sisters do this once and they tried to kill each other constantly unless hunting.


Shotgun
Arkansas

Did you ever have any luck getting them to stop?

In my case no. They were to evenly matched for one to beat the other without one being dead. 2x4 knocked them out one day but when they came to it was on again.

U may be able to lay down the law and get urs stopped or let them sort it out I don't know. If u seperate them a while the animosity may go away but it all depends on the dogs. Good luck to u.


Shotgun
Arkansas

    them bitch dogs are just like human females , once they start fighting with each other it last the rest of their lives . I have never been able to stop it around the yard . if it does transfer into the woods , one of them has to go  .

Classic case of hierarchy. The ole struggle for dominance.

Lay into em with a cable leash and see if a lil skull dragging cools their heels.
As stated above .......if they are worth their salt.......their gonna be hard headed and mean as sin.

If your talking bout cur dogs.......just build you a second pen......its easier than trying to get them to Dr. Phil for manner lessons.

If it boils over to the woods after you have softened their heads.......hunt them separate or get ta culling.

I always enjoy reading what Myles has to say ! He's what I would call a Redneck Oracle ( for those who know what an Oracle is  ??? ) haha . I would split them up but just in case you decide to cull one. From what I've observed  after raising  a few , the less dominant dogs usually make the better hunters. They're more worried about hunting than fighting.

RATSHOT GOES ALONG WAYS:)

After my past days off of some trash breaking, I'm a very firm believer in it! And after a round or two of ratshot, if they still can't get along. Throw some lead.

Haha.  Must be a redneck..... Had to google Oracle.  :laugh:

Had the same thing happen with two females along time ago. I didn't have any luck with being able to pen them together again but I was able to get them to stop fighting when I was around. So I could take them out together as long as I was there but I could not leave them alone for extended periods of time. It took a lot of work and time with them, and me giving them a little "love" every time they even started to think about getting into it. What it came down to was I established myself as the leader and when I was around they knew I made the rules with no exceptions.

But some dogs will be a lot easier to do this with than others, so I wish you good luck. I'm sure you will get it handled one way or the other.

Put a E- collar on both of them. Put them together & get ready to shock them if they start something. Do it as much as possible but do not leave them alone. You can probably get them to ignore each other as long as you are around. Like said above, separate them.
  I got a 3 yr. bulldog in to try for a catchdog. He had never been around other dogs but his instinct was to grab them. I put a shock collar on him & would lead him up to other male dogs & as soon as he would lunge, I would fry him. Took a couple of days but he started to ignore them & once he started catching hogs, I never had another problem with him. He knew his job & that was that. One word of caution on bulldogs tho, once they engage, no shock collar will work. They just phase it out.

like already mentioned it is a pecking order and when they are evenly matched it will go on for a good while...sometimes even when one becomes the top dog that dog will continue to inflict punishment as a reminder to the other dog that he is top dog...I see it more as bullying and that is one habit I can not stand in people or dogs...

if you have access to 2 shock collars put them on and when one starts up shock the pi$$ out of the dominant male and shock the other as well...make it an experience they won't forget...repeat as needed...IMO, if you only shock the dominant male the submissive male will get cocky after a while and the fighting will start back up again at a later date because the dominant male will retaliate at some point because he knows he is top dog...that is why the punishment should be for both dogs...does not matter which starts it...

Cull hard on dogs that are dog aggressive.. next thing you know you will have a dead dog  or pup because you let the small stuff pass!  I will not own a dog that's aggressive !   That's just my 2 cents about the problem like that.

      if I culled dogs for being in a squabble around the house I would not have a good dog on the yard . there is a big difference in a little territory and big dog of the yard dispute than a dog that is just plain aggressive or mean .  that's why those little yard spat's never transfer into the hunt . if and when they do decide to go after it outside the yard , the instigator has to go  .

I agree Mr. Whitten, I have dogs that will get down and dirty with each other in the yard, bring the same two dogs to the woods and they will hunt with each other step for step with zero issues...........its a dominance thing when in the yard, period.

Yep... that's why all dogs on the yard should be kept seperate.

I got a little red gyp that will jump on my two main dogs everywhere but the woods and she backs them hunting hunts with them put them up in a box together it's on like donkey kong


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Well said Mike. I'm glad it's not only me that has this policy.

 Rather not deal with the dog aggression.  If i can't trust a pup around them then i will not own Them!  I rather not hunt with other people with this problem either,  I can say all my dogs will not fight or show aggression and i have good hog dogs.    I have no problem letting them run off there chains for a hour in the yard to stretch there legs.    just my 2 cents

Tough call


Sonny

I agree and the same policy is enforced here as well........ no reason to take the chance.

Using E-collars is tricky. You can either correct the issue, make it worse, or mess the dog up depending how you use it.

Good advice as always

X2. I've never had luck with an e-collar. They think the other dog is hurting them and fight harder in my experience. For the most part my dogs know I'm the boss and if they seem to want to fight I just give em a vocal correction and that stops em. If not the belt will. But some dogs are harder headed than others and as mentioned those damn bitch dogs know how to hold a grudge


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I do know you can keep 2 females in a kennel together until one or both come in heat...

there isn't any difference between normal pecking order and 2 dogs that are about equally matched if finding their pecking order between themselves...IMO there are dogs that are culls because they take it everywhere they go...those dogs are culls and can be tolerated if they are decent hunting dogs...but should never be bred...a dog like that I won't waste my time on...

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