EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I tell ya its a cryin ass shame how people are these days.  I got a buddy that has done spent about 2000 bucks on suppose to be bad ass hog dogs.  Well he goes and buys this suppose to be sho nuff wrecking machine kinda dog on a boar hog.  Goes out this morning takes his two find dogs and the suppose to be hog wrecking machine and his bulldog .  Gets on this bad bad boar hog this bay  dogs got him stopped turns his bulldog loose bulldog goes in hits gets a ear but this is a bad bad big boar so he unsnaps the Sho Nuff Hog Wrecking Machine  he takes off gets about 20 yards from the action does a U Turn and comes right back to the wheeler .  In the mean time the boar hog is wrecking his catch dog and two bay dogs because his find bay dogs are not that ruff .  The boar throws his bulldog breaks his jaw in half cuts one find bay dog and kills the other.  I don't know who this guy is he bought this dog from but he is one more mad mad man and to tell you the truth I would be to but again if you don't know these people and you are buying a sho nuff hog dog wrecking machine you had damn well better see them in the woods with your  own eyes before you hand over your hard earned cash !!!!!!!!!!!  He is one more pissed off man and the boy aint anwserned his phone yet but am more than damn well willing to ride with him to go find this guy and get the get right deal rolling ...............Un damn real people !  This aint the old days I can tell you that because a man that does that kinda chit would never be seen again thrown in a Alligator slew and the deal would have been done no questions asked .

  So the dog was supposed to be a catch dog ?
     That stinks. Common occurrence it seems to get hosed on dogs.

Suppose to be a real time stop, Whao , no running, no bark RCD .  I guess we can call them kinda dogs UTurn dogs ahhahahahaahahhaahhahhahahahahah.

Had a buddy bought a strike dog awhile back from a guy that told him he was silent on trail. He ran him a few nights later . The dog would strike but trail barked the whole time and wouldn't stop a hog we spent all night chasing the dog. Got a good feeling the kid knew he trail barked. Anyhow the kid did the right thing a gave the money back. But the only thing my buddy lost was gas money. The dog had a lot of hunt just wouldn't stop a hog.would any of y'all keep this type of dog?

It would depend on how bad I need a dog that would find a hog.  Sometimes some things out weigh the others until you can get it in order like you want it .  If I didn't have dogs that would find a hog I might would have over looked that for a while but then again I cannot stand a open mouth dog .  As long as they are silent looking for the hog and then when they find it open up and if the hog breaks I can stand them churping on the trail behind him if they are seeing him but as soon as they loose sight of him I want them silent again .  That's just me tho lots of different ways .

I hate to hear that man BUT that right there is why it is said over and over and over on this site and multiple others about trying before you buy! Alotta no good guys out there just looking to make a dollar and screw over anyone they can.


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hog hunting 101 dont trust what people say trust what u see. dont ever go on someone word when it comes to a dog make them show the dog

^^^^ either that or only deal with people you know and trust. How hard is this to understand!?

If u can't deal with folks u know never buy a dog that don't have flaws. U may think I'm crazy but every dog I ever got that I was told had flaws turned out better than promised. The folks that get burned are the ones that buy these "top notch sho nuff " dogs.

Hate to here ur buddy got some dogs wrecked in this deal. Y'all are in Texas and a hog can be hauled alive. Never hurts to get a look befor the chips are down.


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Arkansas

That sucks for your buddy       Kevin it must be a hard concept

I wouldn't buy a truck, 4 wheeler, motor cycle or any other vehicle before driving it.

I wouldn't buy some jeans without trying them on.

I wouldn't buy a house before looking at it multiple times and testing everything that I wanted to.

I cant think of anything that I would just buy without seeing it, knowing about it or trying it. I didn't buy my Garmin stuff until I saw others use thiers.

If you go and buy a dog without trying it and it doesn't do what the person said it would do, who is really blame?  I think it is unreal that this is so commonly talked about on here and still people are out there buying junk without seeing it work.

If you think about it most people that get scammed in life want what the person is selling so bad that they over look there common sence

It's a real shame how many dishonest people there are out there nowadays.
I hate to say it, but if I ever did bother to buy a dog from someone that's supposed to be a good one, I'd be tagging along with that person and watching that dog work with my own eyes before handing over any money. I see people warn others on here about that all the time. That's terrible that his dogs got wrecked.

He got a Holt of ole boy. Suppose to meet tomorrow and get his money back.  We'll see what happens.

Well that's good hopefully he does the right thing

If the dog was a catch dog, and he paid that amount of money for it, I would have wanted to see it in action first. 

A bad catch dog will get my good dogs killed. 

I've learned something over the last 20 years of dealing with dogs for every sport, if it's for sale, there is a reason behind it.  Not saying it's a bad thing, but I run hogs with dogs, if I have a dog for sale, there is probably a reason for it.  The dogs I've sold, I've been completely honest with the people, but they ended up working like they want a dog to work. 

Dogs sometimes need time to adapt to new people, dogs, areas. Some all the "new" has no affect and some it does. I bought a dog and gave a good bit without seeing him go. I trusted the guys word and all the others I talked to about the dog, and still do. However the dog hasn't performed to his ability with me. I have a buddy that sold a dog to a guy in Florida. The dog is a good dog, I've seen what he can do. However, with his new owner he won't look at a hog. Dogs aren't machines. Not everyone is out to screw someone. Doesn't seem to be the case here if your buddy is getting his money back.

A bad catch dog will get my good dogs killed.

Exactly right .

Ole boy showed up and deal is done.....

Glad he got his money back. No one deserves to be robbed of hard earned money!

Phase II  Lmao !

Well he got his money back and now has bought another Lmao !

This one here "Gar on Teeded" to stop a hog not make a sound latch on to that ass and lets get it on!  Caught many of hogs she is the real deal no bones about it money back "Gar On Teeded"

Lmmfao , Lmao , LoL , ROFL,  ROFLMMFAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 Put her in the pen yesterday turn her loose on a 140 lb boar she runs out there the hog charges her and she RUNS FOR HER LIFE AND SULLS UP IN THE CORNER !   

Yeah its funny as hell man I mean to tell ya now !  What the hell are people selling these days ?

I done told him you better try'em before you hand out your money !  So now this one is on him if the guy does not answer his phone and so far that is just what has happened.

LMMFAO! LOL!

It pissed me off the first time he got done like this but the second time O no man its on him !

I guess I should have said ,  What the hell are people buying these days !

Man I gotta tell ya I don't understand the "what are people buyin these days" either.  I gave, GAVE, GAVE away two good dogs.  One was a hair short of a running catch dog and the other was a help dog more or less.  I told the boy what they would do and that they were a little coyote actin with new people and to give them tim to get to know him.  he calls me a week later and says they wont hunt for him, aren't gritty etc. 

Some people want 800 dogs for free, and others pay 800 for one that should cost .22

Agreed ^

Sold a young gyp (around 13-14 months) for...I think $350 if my memory is correct....very we'll started. Had been going to the woods since she was 6 months old. Been on a LOT of pigs...even struck a couple squatters. Anyhow...guy brings her back after 2 hunts...said all she wanted to do was run with his older gyp licking her muzzle. Said he put his gyp up and she did the same with his male. I tried to explain pack dynamics but he still wanted to bring her back so I gave his money back.

That same pup is the oldest dog in a young mans pack and he loves her. When your buying a pup/dog...it helps if you know a little something about hunting dogs....or will at least listen to someone who does.

Sad part is.....as long as there's folks out there putting themselves in the position to be taken advantage of....these swindlers will keep on pulling the crap they're pulling.  :/


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What gets me is you boys want a jam up dog.before I offer a red cent I've hunted with the dog a few times. A 2000 dollar dog is a very good young on his way to the top of the pack finished strick dog. Sure ain't no running catch dog .

Mrs Krystale I couldn't agree more.  I couldn't even give away two decent dogs without the guy complaining.  I think too many people have unrealistic expectations.

Yessir.
I think some people forget that dogs are imperfect living/breathing/bleeding creatures sometimes, and not pre programmable machines.


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I am still trying to find some one who does know something about hunting dogs lol. Most people won't listen to any thing any way to busy airing up there heads lol

A fool and his money are soon parted!

I like dealing with friends myself.  I have a deal with a friend right now.  I have a red lep Catahoula that doesn't hunt like I want one to hunt.  He is short range, will go out to about 250 yards, circle back and check on me then head out again and repeat the whole time you hunt.  I like dogs I can cast on sign and they go find their own hog, hence why I run hounds and hound crosses.  A friend of mine hunts off a mule, and he likes his dogs to hunt fairly tight. 

I told him to take him out a few times, and if he likes him, I told him the price I would take for him.  If the dog doesn't work out for him, that's fine, I'll keep hunting him.  He's a smaller framed dog, doesn't eat much, easy to take care of, so I definitely don't mind him around.  He sure is ruff on a hog too. 

When it comes to a high dollar dog (anything over 500 bucks to me is a high dollar dog, and I've sold a few and bought a few 3 times that high, back in my coon hunting and squirrel huntin days), I want to see the dog in action first.  If I'm sellin a dog, I take the buyer out with me to show him how they work.  Some dogs take awhile to adjust to new homes, new faces, but If I take the person out, nothing is different.  Same as buying a dog, I want the owner to take me and the dog out and see how he is. 

I'm just old enough to remember the days of, when a guy told me the dog would hunt, it would.  Too many peddlers have tarnished a good man's word now days. And it's sad to say, I don't 100% trust anyones word but my friends now days. 

well said


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Now that is 100% true

Yall know what I think..... I think there is a lots of people out there that want to be hog doggers that have no ideal what it takes to make a dog !    They want a dog now and not have to do the work involved to make a dog plus like I said they have not got a clue of what it takes are how to do it  .  It takes tons and tons of time and pig tracks to make a real hog dog .

Ain't that the truth

I have had enough trouble with free dogs I ain't paying for nothing I don't see in action first. My best dogs were free and my worst. But at least when I gave pups away nobody called and complained  :-\ Some people ain't heard you don't look a gift horse in the mouth.