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dogs killed a pig so I figured  heck i'll show it to my pups they  few months old ..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=N8qAzluO53s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=N8qAzluO53s)

Haha! Nice!!

I hope the Admin deletes this thread.

Not real smart to put that on you tube!!!

That's not real smart to post them dogs on that dead shoat maybe them baying a live hog or something of that matter

Yeah...not smart...they were mouthing and baying a dead pig  rolleyes

Hey Parker are them joe pups ? They should be good

Gotta love them Parker's that's how mine was at a young age she would jump out the cab of the truck at 3-4 mths old when the dogs would bay up

At this day and age while many of us are trying to protect the hunting right we have, others post unneccessary thing such as this video that we may end up having to defend.  Im all for you doing what you feel you need to do to train, but not everything belongs on the internet.

We as a group keep trying to educate others not to put certain things on this site and the web, but some people just feel the need to post.  I really dont see anything improessive about the video anyway.  No diiference than a stray dog mouthing and baying a road kill coon to me.

i'm a hog hunter ..the pig was dead ...I ain't a weanie .... that ain't near like a video of 7 dogs eating one up alive .. ... if  someone has to hide from something like that we  don't need em in the sport .... that kind of passiveness is exactly what the anti's like no back bone .... plain and simple I don't do anything I have to hide .....  whats wrong with you people ...    yes sir that is some joe pups ...have  some older  now  that is  really hunting out 900 yards and more solo ......

Nothing wrong with the video Parker...it's a dead pig.

I'd rather see that on this forum than have someone post that they expect their dogs to die for them before they quit a pig.  ;)

^^Excellent stuff right there!! Good luck with your pups.

Looking good Mr. Larry. Heard alot of good about the Joe dog.

Lost a Rock x Pixie gyp last Wednesday night. She was turning into one heck of a dog. Still makes me sick just thinking about it.

^^^^^^ thank you, and you're exactly right, some fine lookin pups!


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No sense in arguing with ignorance.  If you are referring to what is wrong with me and if you are saying that I dont have a back bone- I just prefer to keep my business to myself and I dont believe your post benefits us as hog hunters in anyway.  I'll do my thing and you do yours......I looked at the video and Im not really impressed with any part of it.

Ignorance ? That man knows more about dogs and catching hogs than u could ever aspire to know.

And you dont know me either buddylee....I dont know the fellow at all, he may be the best hog hunter alive, but his post was not a good one.  We think becuase a guy has a name on kennel he is a know it all.  Thats is what the internet does..it raises some people up to hype.  I believe the truth is the best hog hunters with the best dogs dont get on the internet much. 

Videos such as this one do hog hunting no good at all.  There is no value added on such things and that is why I first posted that this should be deleted.  If people are proud of the pups becuase the first time they see a dead pig that bark or chew...I dont see the big deal.  A dang house dog could have done the same thing.  You going to run out and buy a bunch of those?????

What you probably didnt see in the video is what happened first and what was done to get the pups fired up.  The video also doesnt say anything about a dogs hunting ability, nose, bottom.  If all people want is a dog to mess with a little dead pig then I am in the wrong business.  I can go to the pound and pick up a dog that did what these pups did.

Lol. Parker is Larry Parker. He don't get online nearly as much as you. If you talk to him for 5 minutes you'll know he's the real deal dog man.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Yep, if there any real dog men left, ole Larry Parker is one. Pretty nice guy to boot.

Anyone can give there self a kennel name but not many people accomplish what he has in breeding for hog dogs. This is one of the reasons there was a post of "where did everyone go"

AW,I think you hit the nail on the head.

man o man ...... somebody got alittle butt hurt   lmao !

I don't doubt the mans ability to breed, raise or train dogs. I do however disagree with posting of videos such as these. The pig may have been dead but that still don't make it right. Creative editing and a lil bit of subtitles and it becomes savage dogs killing defenseless  piglet while blood thirst owner encourages them.

I have said it before and will say it again. Smart phones, you tube, and Facebook will be the end of hog dogging.

This has nothing to do with being week or hiding anything. We just don't need to air our laundry on the sidewalk.


Shotgun
Arkansas

Shotgun they can do that with EVERY picture or video posted. Hell...I could make a propaganda video featuring the attrocities of Dove hunting if I wanted to.

There is no reason to be paranoid. If your afraid to talk about something you love....or to share (innocent) pictures or video on a website/forum dedicated to the sport.....well....the wackos are already winning aren't they.

That fellow has forgot more bout dogs and hogs,than most know.

No Kevin it's not that I'm scared but this is a subject that is new to the world of hog hunting. I plan to hunt with dogs till my time here is done. I truely believe FB, you tube and smart phones will be the end. I'm sure u and others here saying the video is fine also have said the WWW has hurt the sport. While u may see the video as innocent and I personally don't have a problem with it I still don't think it should be public. Some kid that don't have a brain will see it and say Mr Parker posted that video so I'm gonna post mine. Well his is 3 bulldogs ripping one apart. I see videos all the time that don't need to be public. I see others that are good clean dog work. I wish others would think just a lil longer before they post a video or pic. No to a hog dogger the video may not be bad. To an anti they are all bad. The ones I'm worried about are the ones on the fence. Those are the ones that could carry the vote to shut down hog dogging. I know lots of folks say it will never happen. I also know there were other folks that said they will never shut down their sport either but they did. U run at bay pens. Why do they say no cameras. Not because every run ends bad but because it could be made to look that way. We as a whole need to remember while anti's can get Ammo on their own we don't need to make it any easier.


Shotgun
Arkansas

I'm just curious. If I had been the one to post this video would y'all have said it was ok? 


Shotgun
Arkansas

I couldn't care less about who posted it....the response would have been the same from me. It's a DEAD pig being mouthed by puppies, lol.  :angel:

Well atleast I know it's ur honest opinion


Shotgun
Arkansas

you can't hide from what we do in our sport and shouldn't  ..... I really didn't see any harm in it ...never ment it to be any more than it was  just my pups showing natural intrest on the first pig they seen ....THATS IT ....  I been a very fortunate person to enjoy  spending the time I have  in the woods with my dogs ...its not a  sport with me its  my life  its  who I am ...I don't want to be anywhere I can't be  just  that .....

It's not hideing it's just not putting it on a billboard. I understand being proud they did what they should. I get it is ur life. I would like for it to be my life for the next 50 or 60 years. If I live that long.

Here's my point. U take someone out here that knows nothing about dogs much less pigs or hog hunting and they see ur video. Let's say on that day they have no opinion on hog hunting. They see the video and think that isn't right. No biggie. 5 years later they are posed the question should hog hunting with dogs be outlawed. They scratch their head and remember this video from 5 years ago. They can't remember what it was about or that the pig was dead just they didn't exactly like it. So they say outlaw it.

I personally have no issue with it but I see where someone might. I have seen videos far worse but u know they used the same defense as u do. "Ain't nothing wrong with it. It's just part of hunting. U can't hide the fact that this happens."

It's ur deal u do as u see fit. I just ask that people think before they post videos on you tube that may eventually cost us what we all enjoy.

Thank you.


Shotgun
Arkansas

well if that  little clip is  too much whats ok ?   there's thousands of pictures way worse .....  have  you posted any pic's ?  if  so was there any blood? any torn ears ? have  you mentioned looseing a  dog?  whats ok whats not ? 

Yes I post a pic here and there of a dead pig. No I have not mentioned loosing dogs. I also haven't posted a pic or video of a dog with its teeth on a hog.

Ur video is tamer than most.

In my opinion if the pig was alive and not hurt it woulda been fine. Pics and video of teeth on the pig are not good. Nor is bloody dogs be it theirs or the pigs blood.

I just want people to think. Think before we post. Think before we act. U me all of us have the world after us today. They want to outlaw hog hunting here in AR with dogs today. They are after them in AL . Lots of others are getting looked at as well.  We are an endangered species today. Sometimes it's just best to keep a low profile. 

I know u are an accomplished hunter breeder and trainer with far more experience than myself. I also know that times are changing and we must change with them to protect our sport and way of life.


Shotgun
Arkansas

hey man take  care ....

 Direct qoute!!from shotgun arkansas! I guess the "antis" can only watch vids. I guess they can't read!!! "Got up this morning and a buddy came by to go make a round behind the house. Loaded Kane, red, fancy, and Dixie. The wife and lil girl jumped in as well. I had talked with a neighbor yesterday and they said they saw a couple groups of bigger shoats Thursday evening. We went to where they had been seen and dropped Kane, red, and fancy. They moved out hunting to around 300 or so and Kane and red crossed a slough. Fancy came back so I loaded her for the trip around. About a half mile into the 5 mile trip around garmin says Kane barked 20x per minute. We got problems. Kane don't bark unless he is cut and slung off. We have now caught overdrive. I kept an eye on the garmin and see Kane and red headed for a gravel road near the slough. Fly in and Kane is in the gravel bleeding bad. Snatch him up and the wife starts trying to stop bleeding. I hear red bayed solid 130. I cut loose fancy, Dixie, and roxy my cd. We are running right behind them. Fancy gets there first and I hear her yelp. By then Dixie is there and she is yelping. Roxy goes in and gets hit by then I'm 10 yards looking eye to eye with a BIG boar. Roxy is trying to get hold of him but he keeps knocking her back. By now I have pistol in hand. I kept waiting for a clear shot knowing he's about to break. Got a clear shot but it's front edge of shoulder base of neck. I figured if nothing else I might slow him down and give roxy the chance she needs. I fire and he breaks. I hit him further back than intended. Get the CD caught and head to wheeler to find fancy has a 3" hole bit in her side and Dixie has a cut in her shoulder on her leg and flank torn badly. At this point Kane is still bleeding but not as bad as before. Red is still on the boar and we spend 45 min trying to get him caught up. The boar bayed several times but not long enough. We did see him once dragging his right front leg. When we got red caught up and got back to the wife Kane was still bleeding pretty good. Dixie was cut worse than I could staple so we cut out for the vet. Well as of now Kane is sewn up and so are fancy and Dixie. The boar had cut Kane nearly all the way thru his hip. Luckily it missed the arterie. Vet believes it missed his nerve as well. The bright side is they will all be fine in 2 weeks to 1 month for Kane. It coulda been far worse I guess. I have killed boars 270 pounds. This boar was bigger than any of those. I really want this dudes head. If the 357 slug don't get him first I will get him. "

"Got up this morning and a buddy came by to go make a round behind the house. Loaded Kane, red, fancy, and Dixie. The wife and lil girl jumped in as well. I had talked with a neighbor yesterday and they said they saw a couple groups of bigger shoats Thursday evening. We went to where they had been seen and dropped Kane, red, and fancy. They moved out hunting to around 300 or so and Kane and red crossed a slough. Fancy came back so I loaded her for the trip around. About a half mile into the 5 mile trip around garmin says Kane barked 20x per minute. We got problems. Kane don't bark unless he is cut and slung off. We have now caught overdrive. I kept an eye on the garmin and see Kane and red headed for a gravel road near the slough. Fly in and Kane is in the gravel bleeding bad. Snatch him up and the wife starts trying to stop bleeding. I hear red bayed solid 130. I cut loose fancy, Dixie, and roxy my cd. We are running right behind them. Fancy gets there first and I hear her yelp. By then Dixie is there and she is yelping. Roxy goes in and gets hit by then I'm 10 yards looking eye to eye with a BIG boar. Roxy is trying to get hold of him but he keeps knocking her back. By now I have pistol in hand. I kept waiting for a clear shot knowing he's about to break. Got a clear shot but it's front edge of shoulder base of neck. I figured if nothing else I might slow him down and give roxy the chance she needs. I fire and he breaks. I hit him further back than intended. Get the CD caught and head to wheeler to find fancy has a 3" hole bit in her side and Dixie has a cut in her shoulder on her leg and flank torn badly. At this point Kane is still bleeding but not as bad as before. Red is still on the boar and we spend 45 min trying to get him caught up. The boar bayed several times but not long enough. We did see him once dragging his right front leg. When we got red caught up and got back to the wife Kane was still bleeding pretty good. Dixie was cut worse than I could staple so we cut out for the vet. Well as of now Kane is sewn up and so are fancy and Dixie. The boar had cut Kane nearly all the way thru his hip. Luckily it missed the arterie. Vet believes it missed his nerve as well. The bright side is they will all be fine in 2 weeks to 1 month for Kane. It coulda been far worse I guess. I have killed boars 270 pounds. This boar was bigger than any of those. I really want this dudes head. If the 357 slug don't get him first I will get him. "

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I guess some people post so much things to be only hog hunting as short as time as you have, you forgot what all you have posted you self!!!!

Just a little hypocritical in my opinion!!

Not one of my dogs got killed hurt yes. All were taken to the vet and received proper medical care. The pic in the bushes the hog was dead and the dogs were not chewing on it. The second pic was after we drug it out. Again not chewing on it. The last was a snake bite that had been washed and benedryl given. Penecillin was given once we got home. If that is the worst u can find on me then u be the judge if I am feeding antis. U won't see a pic anywhere of the dogs in the story. If u keep looking u will also find the story where we killed that boar. Without any injury to the dogs. If the jury finds my story to graphic I will not post another anywhere close to it. Just as I judge shall I be judged. So to the jury of ETHD my peers y'all tell me the verdict. Bull rider u tell me where I went wrong.


Shotgun
Arkansas

The ole boy must live close to you shotgun?

I don't care if he does. I make no effort to hide who I am. No more than u do. I don't know who he is. I have never claimed to know it all or that I had great dogs. He went thru all my post here to see what I posted. No I have not been running my own dogs on hogs a long time. I have hunted with dogs and was raised around hunting dogs my whole life. Like I said if my post above sheds a bad light on hog hunting with dogs I will never post anything close to it again. An outside eye can see clearer than the one typing at times. So i will let y'all be the judge.


Shotgun
Arkansas

Well brother...like I said before....a person can make ANYTHING look bad with just a little work.
I wouldn't worry to much about it  ;D

The mods here do a fine job....they'll handle anything that needs to be handled.

If I am guilty so be it. I will do as I said.


Shotgun
Arkansas

That was my point!!! You can make any thing look any way you want it to!
As you say the "antis" can interpret things in any way they want! A glorified bloody detailed story of how bad your dogs was cut up, and 3 dogs caught on a pig, and a pic of a hog with chewed off ears, then having pictures of holes cut in your dog. Can be just as bad as a videos or interpreted just as bad as a vid!!!! Jmo! And no I didn't troll your post I remember reading them and seeing the post when you posted them!! And you think the "antis" care you took your dog to the vet... All they see is your dog should of never been put in that situation to begin with!!! I don't care what any body post it's their business and up to the mods to leave it or not... But my hole point is before you call some one else out, you should give some thought on how some me interpret your post!! Again just my opinion!!!

   you kids need to let this thread go before I send you to your room without any supper    lol  ya'll are now starting to compare apples to oranges , just let it go  !!

    join an assc. and help win the war  .  the h$u$  is on the ropes after the rico lawsuit and many more other losses in court , donations are down and I have noticed fewer commercial air time .  humanewatch.org , united states sportsman alliance ,the calvery group , RPOA are just a few national groups and I'm sure Mr. Mason would be gratefull if you joined TDHA and helped the cause . their has been a lot of passion for our sport displayed on this thread back it up with some action  .


                                                                                    that is all   Mr. Whitten

Political correctness is what has and is leading to the demise of America as we once knew it.

People standing by quietly, hoping not to offend those who believe differently in hopes they will just go away rather than being a vocal voice in support.

Guess what...those who disagree aren't going to just go away.  Pictures, videos, stories...in the end I don't think any of it will really matter anyhow.  Sure there are things that shouldn't be posted just because it's really not proper...but as far as "fuel for the anti's" well there's already plenty of that.

I read a story this morning on the news where a cheearleader from Tech is catching all kinds of flack on facebook for posting hunting pictures from a recent trip to Africa.  Not bloody...not gory, just pictures with her trophy.  These tree hugging, vegan liberals would love nothing more than to see legislation passed to end hunting all together.  So what do the hunters do?  Instead of telling them to go suck an egg, they sit back quietly trying their best not to offend in hopes they will just go away.

Stand up for what you believe in, or be prepared to lose your rights.

PC IS A WEAPON

I am a member and officer in the ADHA. I will do my part to protect this sport. Apparently in some eyes I need to start in my own back yard. So I will not post anymore detailed stories or pics like the ones above.


Shotgun
Arkansas

I read that story this morning as well, I do not understand what the big deal is with that. May not be true fact, but I read that it was done legally, and I also read that she took the trophies and donated the bodies to the locals. Was it bcuz a female posted pictures of her hunts on fb? People seem to have lost their backbone and have become way to dang sensitive!!!

I'm not trying to come acrossed as an ass! I'm just trying to prove a point, just as you was!!!
The "anties" looks at all four corners, not just one!!! Like I said above, I don't care what people post it's their business! But my point, is to look at all four corners before you call some one out!!! Because, some of your post could be miss interpreted!