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So this guy young man 28 yrs old is working with me hanging and repairing cabinets real nice kid far as a person ain't worth a lick as a worker and is ripped head to toe. I just don't get the whole lazy thing you don't have to kill your self at work but come on. When I was a youngster my dad or uncles would put a foot up your butt right quick if you where not hard at it. And I have noticed that the guys that are in the best shape are the laziest any one else deal with this I just think it's funny can work out for 4 hrs can't work 30 min lol

   lol  I used to deal with it on a regular basis . I don't know how many young men I went thru before I found a good helper .  and what's sadder is when you have to tell your daughter her best bet is to pass up and on from dating or getting serious about white men and find her a good oriental to settle down with . which she did to my amassment  lol  hell of a good kid who's grandparents came over from veitnam during the evac .  30 years old already own's his own bizz and in partners on another .

  but you know these young white boys have it so hard these days , they have to start at the bottom and work their way up . who's got time for that  lol   rolleyes

2 strikes on that half breed white and oriental u know they don't work.
MEXICAN the only people keeping the country alive. Lol. They bust ass 24/7 and keep on going This may go south but the hell with it I'm blood so I can.
It's all good

Im a mexican not a mexican't

Judge P. Sounds like the young man is also lazy in his workouts. If your training with the right intensity your body will not last much longer the 90 minutes,  unless your training for long distance running or biking!

Now the other comments about Vietnamese and Mexicans, the chit is getting deep!! If they were such hard workers they would be living in their own countries getting them in order!! >:D

That a boy taz ! I agree with ya . There are lazy people of all sorts


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Agree 100%, but yet they get imported and tax dollars r given to them to start them businesses.
During the evac of south nam, my dad was dropping a downed pilot off on his carrier. While coming in to land, sailors were pushing helicopters and jets off the deck to make room for them future businessmen/women of america.

Now we r dealing with the crap of ragheads coming over, taking the tax dollars, starting up these gas stations and some becoming medical providers at the va hospitals.

Taz I don't anything bout his work out but he is very fit I know this for a fact I was very fit as a young man the only time work outs totally drain ya is when your upping your level or your out of shape working hard takes less out put then staying fit it's a mental thing to want to work hard as for race I have had all races work for me or with me boils down to what you where taught as a youngster. I can say this a ran roofing crews for years only seen Mexicans and whites do it nothing easy up there fellas I will say the Asian folks that I was around have had strong work ethics. Those folks flee there countries because they are ran by crapy governments. The middle eastern folks hate us don't know why they would come here any ways I can understand some of the black folks argument hell they where brought over here against there will but I don't think many would go back lol

its genetic,born with the right stuff you dont need to be a muscle head,excess muscle consumes too much oxygen makes your face all red.

Hit the nail on the head judge!

  and that's what it is all about judge  WORK ETHICS  Charles even if you gave most these young able bodied white folks the same grants and loans the majority of them would fail . why ? because the money made would go for leisure and toys and to keep up with the jones's and not put back into the business . and forget about working from 6 in the morning till 10 at night 7 days a week till said business was profitable enough to hire help you could trust .  >:D

Mr. Whitten, u r 100% correct. But wheather the business fails or suceeds, is irrelevant. The majority of the white us citizen males cant get crap for gov grants/loans for a business, thats set aside for the imported people at the citizen's expense. The business a froend and i are starting is only happening bc we saved, bought what we need a lil at a time. Now if we werent white or a male, the business would have already been up and running.

This country was built by and flourished from hard working inspirational whites, blacks, asians n mexicans, but is now being torn apart by useless, lazy whites, blacks, mexicans n asians that would rather sit around wanting the working class to feed and house them n pay them more for every kid they birth out.
Race should NOT have anything to do with it, but all it takes is a person to open their eyes and look around, a working white us citizen cant get any gov help without having to have the financial colateral equal to what they need a loan for. Then, break it down further, and nearly any male us citizen falls into that catagory too. To much is shelled out to the imported and worthless people, that its extremely hard for those who actually need the help to get it

Charles your right bout those grants and gov help I applied many times I was even told by a gov worker to let my wife file and say we where separated I ain't going to lie to get in trouble lol

100% true. My dad applied for a gov position, and the supervisor told that he wouldnt get the job bc he is white and a male. That was at the start of the that bullchit affirmative action crap.

I agree Judge P. Chit comes in all sorts of colors!! What your mom and dad instilled in you during your younger years are what shapes you as a man or woman later! As you can see by are modern day families, over weight, disrespectful, lazy, and dilution in their accomplishments and abilities, not much parenting going on in most families today!

Big nasty. Look at most football, basketball, and athletes in general they all are carrying more muscle then 20 years ago! That's why athletes are stronger, faster, and better now! Conditioning and coordination/athleticism are the key to performance, not how much oxygen your muscles consume! Back in the day the use to have a competition on Wide World of Sports having all kinds of athletes compete in different physical events. The year Lou Ferrigno competed he won the 100yd dash, the bike ride, then every strength event! Now he is what someone would call a muscle head at 6'5, 275lbs. Take a look at the typical running back in pro ball. Most of the better ones are 5'8-5'10, 190-200lbs, and are the fittest players on the team! Tony Dorsett, Barry Sanders, LeSean McCoy, Darren Sproles, etc. Do you think their muscle heads?? Last nights football game showed what a running back that size can do with all that muscle!! Come do some workouts with me, we can lift, MMA, boot camp, plyometrics, run, etc, and your face will be red, then white, and then grey, just before you puke and pass out!! Judging a book by the cover will bite you in the a$$ more times then not!!;D

Taz I agree I am not in shape like I was 20 yrs ago but my kids are my oldest son that is 28 is still very fit doesn't work out that much. But as a kid instead of whooping there butts I made them do push ups set ups and run laps just something my dad did self pain is the worst at times. Never let my kids play video games that one reason for so many fat kids IMO. I have taken them to work jobs with me and show them the bills so they understand no work no life lol my dad was one of the fittest guys I have ever seen and has never worked out in the regular since. He is 77 and still can do pull ups and clapping push ups

Tazd if u ever make to mexico it's a beautiful place we r in order. We jus get everything we want easier over here. Why not I mean we r smart

Hey judge I'm gonna apply for a grant tomorrow so we can get an alpha system. I have a better chance. Lmao

I'm 60 and work as a millwright, I don't like many young people any more but I've had a 20 yr. old ex-wrestler apprentice for the last week and with more young men like him there might be hope. I'm usually one of the last to get cut loose on a job cause I'm not afraid of work. Most of the time these young folks will just sit and watch me work, but this young man would just tell me to get outta the way every time the harder work came up. I couldn't give him a better recommendation. Yeah he was brash and cocky but he backed it up with his work ethic and ability to take orders. I wish it weren't so rare!

Judge P. Good parenting like you have done and still do will help your boys get whatever they want in life, as well as helping society be a better place for others! Good Job!! My father is 78, he rides his bike 30mi everyday, and does his military PT drills as well, push-ups, pull-ups, sit-ups, and stretches! Rides his bike more miles in a year then he drives his car!! Has always been that kind of a man, and he instilled that type of personality in his 3 childern, as I do with mine!

Ferris. I have been to Mexico many times! Yes it is beautiful in some places, but would never live any where then the USA! I have been fortunate to live in a lot of places in the US and other countries, as well as traveling around the world visiting a lot of countries, so I speak from experience that the US is hard to beat to live in!

Thanks taz I told my wife yrs ago if I ain't hard on em who will. Way out west I told my kids like pop told me at 15 the buck stops here no more give me's if ya want it go get it

I have yet to meet any man that can hang with this mexiCAN...

At the end of the day its my name and my reputation. I have lots more to lose. I have hired every type of person. And there has only been two that I remember, one I still talk too that has been worthwhile to keep..ironically both were rednecks...lol

Fixitlluie you must be a bad mo fo. That is the main thing bout the guys from south of the border I have used hundreds of them 99% of them the work is just work building a house to them is no more important than picking fruit. I have had then take craps in people yard piss in garages and bath tubs very embarrassing. They work hard no ? About but most white or black guys won't do it for 8 bucks that's the problem back in the late 80ds around my neck of the woods it was white guys and Mexican American big difference in those guys a good carpenter could make 25 bucks a hr now 12 to 14 tops this becuz of the south of the border guys coming in each wave does it cheaper the best workers I have had where white or Mexican American I have seen some old black guys that where hard to beat

So, are you Mexican or American?

I'm Hispanic born in dallas tx raised 20 miles south in a small country town of ferris. Yes somewhere down the line I have a kinfolk from Mexico. But this is all for number 2s and giggles. Me and judge peel r good hunting buddies nothing I say needs to b taken serious. I'm not a bad guy I just speak my mind I guess that means the truth. But if I was from Mexico what did u have to say Scott. Lol

So, you're an American...just like me...no matter our ethnic backgrounds. As for what I would have said if you were Mexican...at this point it's irrelevant. But, I do wonder in general when I see other countries flags being flown here in the States...if there is that much love and pride in that particular flag (country), just why in the hell would you leave to come here?

Dang ferris I thought you where from cancun

X100

when i was in iraq, we couldn't put up an american flag on the fob we were on bc the whole that was in charge of the iraqi theater didn't want it to look like we were taking over that chit hole country, but yet in my own country, any flag can be flown in pride for the flag flyers country/heritage, and even flown above the american flag. WTF is wrong with that??? where is an upside down american flag when ya need 1???  >:(

It's simple Scott I work with those people on a daily basis. Ok I'm a rig welder we do main water lines up to 108" and heavy equipment repairs but I'm legal. On the flip side they can make the same amount of money without papers. My point is bottom line there dam good at what they do there fast and the works done right and there making $40 - $75 an hour. Would u not wanna come over they still represent there flag but they love ars if they can make the money. I know it ain't right but that's r allsome government and it's only getting worse.
But that's the reason they wanna b here $ plain and simple

Judge peel. Lmao
My dogs r from Mexico that's why they move quick and go for days. Lol

And can swim across rivers like it aint no thang

Fixitlouie. Your right on that. Lol
Where u located these days

Houston area....

I just don't like rude people no matter the color or how hard they work. Some people are just jerks and it makes work drag on. Taz the point was that he had a guy that worked out but did not work. You brought up that nobody could do your workout? How much does that workout pay? I can puke while I am running and not even stop. But if you find a workout that pays like a job I will be all over it. Now when it was brought up about uys in shape not working I would have to ask if they got in shape working in a gym or working? Now some people do both but not many. So Taz you might be one of the ones that can do it and that is great. But as a general statement I would agree that guys that workout can't hang in a real world test. I know some ex pro football players and they are still in great shape. But I have never seen them do real work.

Steroid use/abuse  may be in play here, lol

Yep.. all meat no potatos::)

Or at least thats what ive been told

Dub. The young man being ripped and working out for 4hrs a day does not mean he is a stud and works hard. Just means he is lean, and stands around a lot during his workouts!! Now the workout I was mentioning to big nasty pays a lot! It puts my body in great condition which is how I advertise for my buisness as a Professional Trainer, which helps me make a good living. About the workout, it was a general statement that when working out intensely your going to have a red face if your lean! It's how your body tries to cool itself through capillaries having blood pushed through them to the upper surface of your skin. If your fat, it will not show as much because of the excessive fat under the skin.

Big nasty. Funny you would bring up steroids. That's what most people who are not in shape will say when they see someone else who is. Like you can take it and be in great shape and strong. Does not work that way! It's hard work that gets you strong and in shape 70 percent of the time, the other 30 percent are genetically gifted. Steroids only help your body heal itself faster, and to help volumize your cells with more fluids, which in turns help you become stronger. If your not working out and creating damage to the muscle cell your body does not change. Millions of woman are on steroids (birth control pills) and they are not in shape and built from it.

Like anything in life that is worth having, it does not come easy, and you will have to work hard for it. Be it a good relationship with your wife and kids to making a good living, or to be stronger and in better shape then others!! There is a saying I like to use to my clients, Hard work will always beat the gifted, if the gifted do not work hard!!

Seen plenty big tuff guys(they thought they were) that work out with noassatall.cant beat genetics .

If you say your tough your probly not in most cases. A lot of pro athletes use steroids and so do people on the streets don't mean all do most just never get in trouble for it when I was in the army 11b I seen more pumped guys fall out then average looking guys you don't have to be ripped to be a athlete or to be a stud that is a fact Audie Murphy

Judge P. I was a 11B myself, with 4th Division at Ft Carson, Colorado. Boot camp. AIT, and jump school, at Harmony Church at Ft Benning!! Then I went on to fight with the  All Army Boxing Team for 2.5 years. We spent time training at the Olympic Training Center there in Colorado Springs! Thats when I learned alot about training from Dr. Paul Ward!! Chemicals do not make a tough/bad person, but being extremely proficient in your combat skills, and being experienced in using them sure does!!!

Audie Murphy was the most decorated soldier ever!! Most people would think he was a runt when they saw him!! But you do not have to be a tough guy to pull a trigger as he did!! He ran fast, was a small target for a tank to engage, kept moving from tank to tank, and before he knew it, all the Germans were dead!! Now toeing the line with another man in hand to hand, or a street fight is a way to judge toughness or being a bad S.O.B!!

Bignasty. Science has proven that genetics is only about 30 percent of what you are physically, the rest comes from hard work!! Sure the gyms are full of want-to-be's, traveled all over the US and have been in gyms as a trainer since 1984, but with out consistant, hard training you will always be a wanna-be!! If just doing manual labor was the key to being in awesome condition then all the athletes in the world would stop hitting the gym, track, etc and just mow yards all day!! Lol...

Another saying I use when someone who does not have what it takes to be a Stud, I like to tell them, I cannot make a poodle a pitbull, but I can sure make you the best poodle!!

Poodles are mean.lol you are right tazD. About a decade ago I hit the sauce pretty hard. I was on the prowl. Got stretch marks on chest and legs. I got seriously into mma. Let me tell you how confused I was when my boxing coach Lewis Woods (fights at 127) was kicking my ass up and down the gym.. sence then ive cleaned up and  been in ring with james head, yeves Edwards, jason franks and a few other on tv type fighters. Its not how hard you can hit...it how good you can hit. Im 39 and can still hang with the pros for a few good rounds. But im alot smaller Alot smarter (my wife would argue that) and have the know how. When a yoked up dude comes in the gym with his chest all puffed up its some of most fun watching him shrink..lol

tazd just because you were there if its true dont mean you were any good at it or better then anyone else that was there.sure just mowing lawns is not going to do any one any good .i dont mow lawns -lol.it dont take me 3 min. to hobble a sow either . ;) ie-your video.your partner showed up and helped you finish it.
now dont go and delete the video ha ha

Toughness comes in all areas bro not just in the ring or street fight I have seen some tough sobs that couldn't whoop there way out of a wet sack. Every one has done this and that I to was Benning and fort Polk and 25 th and 13 air born corp. you can ether fight or you can not if ya can you can train and get better as in most thing the only limits in life in America are the one you put on your self

Pulling the trigger on another human has a lot of mental and physical repercussions this takes toughness to deal with

100% true. Its been 5yrs since i put a belt down rsnge n im still trying to dealing with it. It aint as easy to "forget it" as it was to push the butterfly.

Col bud day is the most decorated. To say Audie Murphy just pulled a trigger is a understatement he served in 7 campaigns 26 battle killed numerous enemy he was shot twice hit by motar round and saved hundreds of American lives even took out a German sniper after being shot by that sniper no WORK OUT on earth will make you able to do this he is the true meaning of a hero IMO

Bignasty. No reason for me to delete anything. Let's say your the MMA Champion of the world. To get  there you have to beat, and fight your way to the top, so yes it does mean you have to be good at it!! No different then getting on the Army Boxing Team, The American Gladiators, having pro football teams wanting you on their team, competing in physical contest around the country, etc!! You get there by proving yourself, not by being a internet wonder!! I have found since the internet and social media started, that most think they are a lot better, know more then they do, and are tougher then what they are, with nothing to prove it by except what they say! Is this you?? Would like to see what Bignasty has done in his life to make him such a stud hog hobbler!! Lol.... I enjoy meeting and talking with people who are Really the best at what they do and seeing what it took to become the best!! Plus there are always people like yourself who like to stir the pot on every post they get involved with!! I find it pretty funny! Been around a lot of big, tough, and bad men in my time, being in the buisness I am, and doing the things I like to do! Having them bust my ass,  talk chit, etc is how we talk with each other when we are face to face. Where I come from that's how we are to each other!! Now on the other hand they have proven themselves to me and others by doing something exceptional other then talking on the Internet!!

Judge P. Not saying what is done during life or death combat is something to take lightly! I know that first hand! Some people can deal with it, and some cannot! I also know for every documented bad man, ther are 10 who are badder then them that we never learn about!! Was wondering how a person can be a tough SOB if they cannot punch their way through soggy toilet paper?? I understand mental, and physical toughness, it's what made us rise to the top of the food chain during the evolution of are species. Unfortunately it's not as common today! There are more talkers then doers in are society today then just 50yrs ago!! Makes you wonder what things will be like when my young childern get older??

Ha ha taz something we agree on some what. I was framing a house yrs ago and my dad's friend shot a nail thru his hand into a rafter sawed the board off and went to the doctor then came back to work never cryed a bit this guy couldn't whoop a midget with a belt that's the kinda tough I was talking bout. The badest dude I seen on two feet is my cuz bad bad fella

I saw a 80 year old man along with a 72 year old spend a month working in the heat and sun with a shovel in their hand putting levee gates in the old way. Those old men were tough. I don't judge a man on how great he is by the ability to use his fist. The baddest man in my area may be a chump in another and vice versa. What may be considered hard work to me may be torture or a cake walk to u. For instance the physical act of swinging a hammer was never a big deal to me. Toting shingles or boards no biggie. Working all day bent over is torture.


Shotgun
Arkansas

Shotgun wg right on

tazd im not the bragging type,dont care for those that are either like you.about the hobbles i was only kidding,i use rope.hobbles are weak imo reserved for those who have no rope tying tallent. 

Bignasty. when did I brag?? Just stated what I do! Proud of my accomplishments like most people are when they do something special in there lives. I just happen to have done a lot of them!! No different then Judge P being proud of his sons abilities and accomplishments, Cajun, with the dogs he trained and sent to Sweden catching the 4th largest brown bear ever in Sweden, Fixitlouie holding his own with skilled MMA fighters, someone posting up the biggest hog they have caught, etc,etc.. It's not bragging, so enlighten me on what Bignasty has done that he does not like to brag about!! Hobbles are weak?? LMAO.... I will tell you what's weak, someone who is on a hog hunting site with 280 post and not one mention or pics of his own hunts, but has something to say about everyone else's post!! I guess every site has to have a Jester!!

Judge P. We have agreed on more then one thing!

Shotgun. W I  understand what your saying about those older men and their hard working ethic! I also understand what you mean about one person who is tough in one place may not be tough in another. Now if that tough man has proven himself all over the U.S. With his work ethic or his combat skills, or physical abilities, he is just a tough man no matter who or where you come from!!

Well all I got to say to all y'all bad asses is. All the big ones line up and all u little ones gang up. Lmao
It's a dangerous world where I come from. R steroids r tacos and cold beer.

Lol ferris       Naw taz just messing with ya tell ya what my buddy says it ain't bragging if ya can back it up lol

Ok. Now back to hogs and dogs....

Ferris. LMAO.

Judge P. How could we have a good discussion if we were always agreeing about everything!! I whole  hardly agree with your buddies statement!! Put up or shutup!! Nothing worse then someone who is, All Show And No Go!!

Fixitlouie. 10-4 on that!!

Now I have known some bad dudes. Some of the baddest were my grandpa's cowboys the baddest one was my grandpa. Never saw one of them throw a fist. But they could be cutting cattle have the whip off the horn cracked on a cow and back on the horn before you could say bull whip. Never heard a one of them say how tough they were. But other people said they were tough and nobody would mess with my grandpa even after 70 years old. Now I wish I was as tough has he was. He never saw a need for air conditioning or indoor plumbing. He earned the respect of his cowboys. Never heard an excuse from him. I could go on and on. But you should never put down a decorated soldier. I don't post hunting pics or stories and won't unless someone has helped me and I do it as a way to say thanks. I don't hunt to impress anyone and don't care what anybody thinks. I do like to stir things every now and then. I think it is funny when people get all upset about someone else's opinion.

Now Taz I asked about how much working out paid just to find out. Nobody pays me to workout any more so I work now. I work at least 12 hours a day and I do not know when I will get a day off. Most people can't handle my job and that is why it pays good. But I am looking for another job so I can hunt more. Work sure gets in the way of living. It is great that you can get paid to work out. I don't know or worry about how tough anybody is. It doesn't matter to me someone is tougher than me or not. Lots of people are tough and lots are not. I like to think I am special but to be real I am only special to my wife and kids. That is fine by me.

My hero is still John Wayne

Dub I like ha ha next to my pops john Wayne was my hero to lol

Nothing wrong with being proud but i choose not to  offer fuel to the anti's.worked to hard to incriminate myself. :)

Dub. 10-4!! I never stated I was tougher then anyone, just made some comments on a 28 year old man who could workout for 4 hrs, but had no get up and go when it came to working!! His working out for 4 hrs and being lazy at work prove that this young man is Flat Lazy!! Anyone who seriously works out hard knows that there is no way you can workout for 4 hrs hard!! Just try jumping rope for 4hrs, sprinting for 4hrs, squating for 4hrs, etc, etc!! Its not happening!!

I am a very private man, who spends all of his spare time with his family when not working or doing one of my many adventures I enjoy doing!! I do not do social media, (this is the only site I frequant) I only answer my phone when its my family, and the only people I am worried about impressing is my Family!! Sure I am over competitive when it comes to all things physical, but its not to prove something to others, its to test and prove my abilities to Myself! Does this rub others wrong who are not confident in their own skin?? By all means!! Its never been about me being better, or beating someone else if we are competing in something, Its All About Seeing What I Can Do!!!

Bignasty. The anti's can Kiss My A$$.. They will never stop me from doing what I want to do, when I want to do it, nor will any Liberal Piece of Chit!! They have never done anything to better this country I live in, and my grandfathers, dad, uncles, and me and my brother fought for!! Matter a fact they have done the complete opposite! Making are country, once the most powerful respected and feared country in the world a laughing stock to other countries!! I am a man with old school priciples living, in a high tech modern world!!

Taz, with do respect.... I GET YOU...seems to me you have been been rubbing people the wrong way the minute these none hog hunting bs tarted, must be the way you express your your self.... By the pics  that you RECENTLY posted, ( the trip) you ARE NOT a private man , and imo, you have the need to impress every one and your family also , you sir you are right about the  comment about the anti's and how we are looked upon in the world . my thanks to you and your highly patriotic family ps. I work hard but, I don't jump rope AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH BEEN COMPETITIVE , is how you [puy it. 

I use to go for 4 hours....now 4min:D

To each his own,made my choice and sticking with it.

   lol  my daddy can whoop your daddy !!  I just now read this thread and this is a few minutes in life i'll never get back   lol ..   I wish I was still on the job and could take ya'll with me to hang 8 and 10 inch cast iron pipe 40 feet in the air for an 8 hour shift and see whom was left at the end of the day  lol  talk about a work out !!!

It's kinda funny to read. People arguing with each other probably don't no each other either. Funny
It's all good.

Lol halfbreed in a lot of cases in today's world one daddy can't whoop a daddy that ain't around kinda sad really. And far as working hard there is a big payment due at the end of it the only thing is you don't receive it you gave it to the betterment of man kind and this great country  we call home

There is probably an ISIS fella in Syria that can lift more weight than any of us, work harder and longer, and shoot straighter......but when that missile comes humming in...it's all irrelevant at that point. Take that statement for what it's worth, but I'm just saying...some of the most respectable men and women are never seen by the naked eye or even the word of mouth. So how bout' them cowboys? Not a fan, but all be dang if they didn't finally win a game. Lol

 8)  :)  I LIKE^^^

I ain't never seen one shoot straight. The safest place to be when they shoot is right in front of them  rolleyes Forget the missiles just send in small groups to hunt them down and kill them like the pigs they are. They are not a nation so they should not be given any protections given a nation's military. Go old school Texas Rangers on them. Hunt them down, burn any town they hide in to the ground and leave their bodies hang'n. Then bring our boys home and have them ready in ase someone stirs up more poop. One riot one Ranger. They knew how to stop tough men that could shoot. Those clowns just kill the inocent people then run, hide and say they are peaceful. There are no international laws to protect criminals so hang em high. We just need a President that has a pair of balls bigger than his wife's.

Show me 1 of them ragheads that can shoot straight. Iv been over there 4x and seen first hand their shooting abilities SUCK!!!! Bullet for bullet, its bout a 1 in 20 hit rate. Shooting from a moving platform @ 500' up, hurricane force downdrafts and the acft shaking the weapon so bad you would think it was 8.0 earthquake, plus no sighting system except tracers on a 1 in 5, my hit rate was 1 in 10 - 1 in 15.
Them sumbeaches cant hit the broad side of a barn in daylight conditions, let along at night.

Lol Charles....true for the most part. That's why I said "an" for one. I had to train IA for ~a month in 08' and there was one guy out of I don't remember how many that could actually shoot. He might the be one ISIS fella I'm talking about by now, hard to tell. I didn't put much effort into helping them will their skills or lack of for the most part. Most of them didn't have a front or rear sight, and the ones that did, didn't know what to do with it. We didn't have to change targets much, so it worked out. Lol when it came time for practical application, I made sure to keep my distance. I'm sure you know exactly what I mean.

Lol Isis is a bunch of brutal cowards we should just nuk the whole dang area and give it to the Jews they don't fight they play hide and seek