EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I was discussing flashlights with my crew chief and he told me about the laser genetics laser illuminator. He has both the nd3 and nd5 sub-zero. He recommends the sub-zero even for non sub temps bc the non sub won't work or work well in colder temps (50 and below). Evidently animals can't see it, and it works very good for yote and lion hunting up here in the north. Has anyone else had experience with these illuminators and what's your opinions on it, pros/cons? I was thinking of getting 1 for shooting yotes in my pasture.

I am also thinking about getting the sub zero. I found some at a real good deal online. I am a review junkie and read all i could on them. Alot of folks said they were a jam up alternative to night vision. Some folks did say that they would still spook game. They also said that the wider (less bright) field of illumination seemed to help that problem and they could still clearly see the target in the scope. After all the reviews i read and watched ( which was a ton of them ) i think i will still save a few greenbacks and order it. Hope this helps.

I don't think I would go as far as saying an alternative to nods, unless maybe gen1 nods. The goggles I flew with were nearly crystal clear once focused properly, well  crystal clear may be a poor choice of words, unless it's a green crystal. Lol. I did get the green eyes for several hrs after landing. The positive side of green eyes was, the eggs looked the same, so eating them wasn't as bad of a mental issue than seeing green eggs with normal vision. Lol.

If they are bout the same as gen1 nods, might as well save up and buy a set of get goggles or a gen2 scope. Iv seen gen1 scopes going for $200, and with an ir illuminator, the nvr scope will work better than no illuminator.

We are converting former military chinooks into civilian hookers, and as per forestry service regs, we have to have alternating foward facing landing lights, so the current search/landing lights will be removed and iv been granted dibs on the lights and housing and control systems, AND the ir filter. That light will make it daylight for 400-500yds, and with the filter, at night, it can't be seen by the human eye, and I know at least for Iraqi dogs, or lasers DONT have any effect on them. I shined my weapon laser in several dogs eyes and they didn't pay it any attention.

Ive never had either so i cant speak from personal experience. Lol...but i would definatly like to try it out.

If my crew chief didn't live so far from work and me (lives in Spokane, wa and we work just south of prtland, or and I live just north of Austin tx) I'd have him show me how good they are before dropping $200-250 for 1. He has both the 3 and 5, using the 5 for spotting and the 3 for shooting and likes them. He says he has never messed with nods, so like you, he can't comment on them. I have looked through a Russian gen1 scope while in Iraq and it wasn't bad, just nowhere near the gen3 aviation or pvs7 and 14 nods.

I take it you were / are in the service. . Thank ya ! And im going to get one but if you do before I do let me know how you like it. And I will do the same. I'll probably have mine right after Christmas.

 I was, 97-10 in field arty and a hooker mech. I'm gonna go to cabelas today and take a look in person at the nd5 and may get it if this lil Podunk cabelas outfitter store here in Portland hav 1.

I guess ain't nobody else got any experience with them. Must be a reason for that too

10-4...either that or if you dont shop around and find a good deal on one there fairly expensive.

If either of yall get one please post a review.

No joy on the flashlights. Evidently there are/were only 14 nd5s in cabelas inventory, and none here and none at the store nearest me. So without being able to put my hands on it and see it in the real, it will be a bit before I get 1. I spent my limit on a 320 bundle but will possibly be taking it back mon if I don't like what garmin has to say bt not making the 50s anymore

Bummer ... i dont know of anywhere close to me that carries them either. I think after xmas I'll order me one and see what all the fuss is about..lol..I'll try it out in my cow pastures and see what happens. We got a ton of skiddish rabbits around here so that will be the first thing i try it on...lol..my 9 year old step son has them suckers on high alert with the ole pellet rifle..lol..

Lol, that a boy!! Tell him to keep them suckers running scared

Don't know if yall have them near you but dicks sporting goods website has them, however I refuse to shop there, and bass pro's website doesn't have them so I cant help.

There is a dicks back home, but I'm like you, I don't like dealing with them.

cant ever find anyone working in there to help ya. 

 since i couldn't find a laser genetics light and put hands on, i was in academy today between va appointments and was browsing the scopes, looking for something to mount to my ar and came across this flash light.

https://www.nebotools.com/prod_details.php?id=174&cid=29

its similar to the laser genetics, but maybe not as powerful. there is a big brother to this little light, but even this little light throws a good beam and from my feeder to my stand, i will be able to bust them corn stealing coons.
ill have to surprise the wife and have to the stew cooked before she gets home. if there is a boar coon, i think ill make another tooth pick since i lost my last 1.

Nice light. How do you think it would perform at a few hundred yards? And cmon now..dont tell me youd really use the ole coon pick

this small light only casts out to 70yds, but the big brother i think goes out to 300yds. and yes, i use them picks. I'm saving the rain forrest 1 coon at a time  ;D

I heard that. A guy came over to the house tonight with one in his hat. He was surprised that i knew what it was. I will let yall know how that laser ginetics is after xmas.

Charles have you tried it out yet?  review?

I didnt try it out tet so to speak other than mounting it to my 870, putting the pressure switch on and shining from my porch to pug pen (60yds) and on high and 3/4 focused. It illuminated my pigs enough to fling a stick or put the crosshairs on and count the pig's hairs. For over half the price, that small light is perfect out to 60yds with the naked eye.
Now for the con. The focus appiture is considerably loose when not in full spot or flood pattern and is easily moved and adjusts misadjusts the focus. Other than that con, i aint got any complaints. I will test it for real this wkend, but i think it will b a coon or yote busting light.

is it a flash light or a laser?