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Title: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: Bdog09 on December 17, 2014, 06:07:29 pm Everyone has there favorite breeds or mixes. If you could have any dog or any mix what would it be?
Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on December 17, 2014, 07:03:25 pm All can be good I like them all. Lacy x mnt cur and fl cur x cat have been good for me I want to try cat x fl cur x hound
Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: reatj81 on December 17, 2014, 07:32:20 pm Like the song said (Long and lean, every young mans dream). Brindle cur hound cross, sure partial to ring neck, have to have a good ear, deep voice.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: Bdog09 on December 17, 2014, 07:32:21 pm I think a jagd x lacy x cat
Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: Bdog09 on December 17, 2014, 07:52:57 pm I'm the kinda just that likes the most gritty dirty nasty ugly dog you can find.
Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on December 17, 2014, 08:00:06 pm The grittier the better lol
Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: Bdog09 on December 17, 2014, 09:09:49 pm 2nd that
Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: oconee on December 17, 2014, 09:42:31 pm If I only ran hogs I would find a good Finely River bred Walker that had a good nose and would flat go a hunting and breed him to some nice BMC females. Probably something off Clue Anderson's line of cow dogs or some of them south Texas Bred BMC's. Anyway, Walker and BMC worked great for me several years ago.
Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: Waratah on December 17, 2014, 11:41:08 pm Or like the other song goes
I love'd em everyone (big little short or tall) Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: Hunt the Grunt on December 18, 2014, 08:26:47 am Pointer X Mountain Cur
Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: Bdog09 on December 18, 2014, 01:11:42 pm I just breed my terrier to my jack Russell x pit x cat x bmc x ridgeback hoping she took. Should be some gritty S.O.B.'s
Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: Goose87 on December 18, 2014, 01:55:36 pm What happened to the days where people bred just curs or hounds. No offense to anyone but it just blows my mind to see all the crosses people are coming up with now a days .
Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on December 18, 2014, 02:21:07 pm Goose I been looking for a stand out hound to cross with my cur just ain't found the right one yet
Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: Goose87 on December 18, 2014, 02:44:03 pm I know what you mean judge I've got my eyes open for the right hound to use as an outcross on this line if curs that I have now. I just can't get over the crosses people are making nowadays. I guess if the wheel fits then roll with it.
Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: WayOutWest on December 18, 2014, 02:50:05 pm In my opinion, some of these crosses are just people lookin for a shortcut to get where they want to be. Sometimes in breeding linebred dogs you have to be lookin 2 or 3 generations down the road. That takes a lot of patience and not everyone has that!
Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: rdjustham on December 18, 2014, 03:16:25 pm I like my bobtailed florida dogs.
Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on December 18, 2014, 03:55:29 pm Wayoutwest you right about that any thing in life that takes a while to get is usely worth the time
Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: Bdog09 on December 18, 2014, 05:07:22 pm No matter what man will always go for the bigger better fast theory that's why we see all the crosses everyone wants what no one else has
Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: MrsLouisianaHogDog on December 18, 2014, 05:14:56 pm I think most people do crosses with the mindset of creating a dog that will best suit their specific needs.
Honestly, I see nothing wrong with that. To each their own. Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: Bdog09 on December 18, 2014, 05:24:56 pm I agree every dog breed that we have today was made that way
Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: Reuben on December 18, 2014, 06:43:37 pm I like the right mt curs...but I don't like over 90 percent of the mt curs out there...but those that look a little houndy and about 55-60 pounds I will try out...
3/4 mt cur with 1/4 BMC... 3/4 mt cur with 1/8 pit and 1/8 plott, walker or running walker... Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: Goose87 on December 18, 2014, 07:11:59 pm There's not a thing wrong with it as long as your breeding a better hogdog and halfway know what your doing and cull when necessary. I guess what's odd to me is that most of the traits that people look into achieving can be achieved through good bred curs or hounds with the exception of a few traits. To answer the question I like a tight gutted deep chested, medium boned, athletic frame, that can take a 5-6 hour track free casted, run the track with their heads up, have good track speed, run to catch/stop mentality, knows how to approach a hog that has stopped to bay, have good bay power that knows how to bay a hog, and has an excellent handle kinda dog. Does such a dog exist? Yes I've seen and hunted with them. Do I or have I ever owned one ? No, but it's my goal and what I'm breeding for. I want a few dogs to take much older tracks but far as my pack in general, I don't need a pack full of grub it out cold trailers. I would prefer a dog to be silent until jumped and give some mouth, not a lot after the hog is running good.
Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: Shotgun wg on December 18, 2014, 11:25:13 pm I really like my BMC x redbone dogs. I have a litter of pups right now that are 3/4 BMC 1/4 redbone. I don't care to cross to many different ways. Would rather keep as little ingredients as possible. The rest of my dogs are full blood or single cross. I have a cat gyp I have high hopes for. If she works out I will go back to my uncle and use one of his studs to continue his work and line.
Shotgun Arkansas Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: thegroundskeeper on December 19, 2014, 08:38:28 am I had a plott female that could straight up do it but she was open, I bread her to my big male catahoula and she threw 12 pups. 10 died and 2 males survived. They are both silent and will beat the woods down. So today am a partial to THE RIGHT PLOTT X CAT cross. I also love some pit in my dogs. The best dog I ever owned was a cat x pit cross. But I prefer only about 1/4 or 1/8 pit in the cross.
Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: RyanTBH on December 19, 2014, 01:35:50 pm Texas Boar Hounds... ;D lol
Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: RyanTBH on December 19, 2014, 01:37:39 pm But no seriously... I really like the plott x cur cross. Decent nose and leggy... I like some grit, but smarts to back up and bay when needed. It helps if they have a saddle back too. Lol just a sucker for a good looking saddle back dog I guess. Call it what you will... ;D
Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: Reuben on December 19, 2014, 08:10:14 pm But no seriously... I really like the plott x cur cross. Decent nose and leggy... I like some grit, but smarts to back up and bay when needed. It helps if they have a saddle back too. Lol just a sucker for a good looking saddle back dog I guess. Call it what you will... ;D I like saddle back with red brindle trim.. Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: Cajun on December 20, 2014, 06:52:26 am There really is no ultimate hog dog. There is just to many variables on peoples style of hunting & different terrain that they hunt. What makes a great dog in one area could be a pain in the a** in another area.
Examples would be if I took one of my plotts to a small area & he blows thru it & is on somebody else's property & we spend a lot of time trying to catch him or a short range dog in a big area & the hogs are few & far between. People have always tried to reinvent the wheel & there is nothing wrong with that. People have been breeding for their specific needs for ages. When I first started I had medium to long range catahoulas with extremely good noses. They also had the stick & would stay after a running hog 4 to 6 hours. When we got russian hogs in the 70's, I got some plotts. My main reason back then for culling plotts were if they did not have a good a nose as my cur dogs, they were gone. There are cur dogs out there that do have noses as good as a good hound but they are a lot harder to find. So anyway the ultimate hog dog can be any breed, Catahoula, BMC, Mtn. Cur or any of the hound breeds. It can also be any cross. Sometimes a hound cross can bring a lot to the table & carry the traits of both breeds. There are also the bird dog, pit crosses & a lot of others I cannot think of right now. I guess what I am getting at, the ultimate hog dog can be any breed or cross, for your area, but might not be the ultimate hog dog in another area. Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on December 20, 2014, 09:47:23 am Cajun you nailed it
Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: Reuben on December 20, 2014, 11:08:25 am x2...
Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: Gun Bullety on December 22, 2014, 05:07:02 pm Personally I like staghound/bull crosses.
I don't understand what kind of time and space people have to hunt with noisey slow scenting dogs. I envy them. But for me I need a dog that either sees a pig, or catches the scent of one extremely close, and runs it down in seconds. Title: Re: Ultimate hog dogs Post by: RyanTBH on December 23, 2014, 10:50:06 am But no seriously... I really like the plott x cur cross. Decent nose and leggy... I like some grit, but smarts to back up and bay when needed. It helps if they have a saddle back too. Lol just a sucker for a good looking saddle back dog I guess. Call it what you will... ;D I like saddle back with red brindle trim.. |