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Title: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Judge peel on June 09, 2015, 09:42:38 am
Any thoughts on this fight coming up. I personally believe that this will be a domination by McGregor but Aldo will be game. I think Aldo is good at taking a punch but I think McGregor is to skilled of a striker. My friend think I am full of it but if you study fighting it's very clear the guy is going to be great. After the second exchange it should be clear 


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Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Jabo on June 09, 2015, 10:36:54 pm
I think McGregor has really lit a fire under Aldo with all his trash talk and antics. I think the old Aldo is going to come in and completely dominate with little problem. I'm looking forward to this Saturdays fight. Cain is going to kill Werdum hands down.


Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Judge peel on June 10, 2015, 06:28:30 am
Cain should do good just needs to pressure him and clinch when he can and make werdum run out of gas. As for Aldo I just don't think he has the tools to beat McGregor unless it's a one punch knock out wich I don't think he can hit hard enough.  And Aldo like to stand and thro big mistake with McGregor but will see


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Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Amokabs on June 10, 2015, 05:14:22 pm
I hope Cain loses, I am fed up with native born Americans showing more interest in the country of their parents birth than the greatest country in the world. However, as far as a fighter, he's tough to beat, if he can stay healthy. Watching mgregor is like watching a wwe star, he's got good mic skills, he's a good fighter, but I think they've hand picked his opponents and let his personae build to spread ufc into the Isles. I think Aldo will show mgregor for wat he really is, a showman.


Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: dallas22 on June 10, 2015, 05:43:05 pm
I hope Cain loses, I am fed up with native born Americans showing more interest in the country of their parents birth than the greatest country in the world. However, as far as a fighter, he's tough to beat, if he can stay healthy. Watching mgregor is like watching a wwe star, he's got good mic skills, he's a good fighter, but I think they've hand picked his opponents and let his personae build to spread ufc into the Isles. I think Aldo will show mgregor for wat he really is, a showman.



We all have roots somewhere take pride and respect where you come from so many people forget. An most of the time those are those people that forget are the ones that got there head in there butt thinking there poop dont stink. Well i think as a fighter u have to create a idea of where you come from to get where u wanna get too. I have served in the military an there are so many folks from different countrys that will lay there life down for this one. On the other hand u got americans that are joining isis are just mad about our goverment. Examples okc bombing . Anyhow when its all said and done i just like a good fight. Even if they have mexican-american,irish-american,african-american and etc.


Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Judge peel on June 10, 2015, 06:16:34 pm
Lol when some one knows there good and says what they can its showboating but when they do it your like dang. How many hog hunters think they are the best and can or can't do It. Fighting no different if you study the progression of the the athlete you can clearly see the guy is no joke. After the second exchange Aldo will no he is in trouble Aldo is a awesome fighter but his time is about up Mendez in my opinion beat him in the last fight. As far as native born Americans sporting other flags is disappointing there was a time when being a american meant something to all ethnic groups 


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Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Amokabs on June 10, 2015, 06:29:28 pm
My grandfather immigrated through Ellis island from Sicily, they did not go on about Italy, they were AMERICAN.  The country they left, was no longer their country. They came to America for the opportunities She offered, opportunities offered no where else in the world. Now, being Italian in the south, well, let's just say, the "whites" surely never let you forget where you came from, I had to listen to racial slurs as a kid  growing up in the early 60's. I just think it's a little insulting to wear a mouthpiece with the Mexican flag on it when all the accomplishments Cain has earned was while living as an American citizen. All this pseudo hyphenated American crap does nothing but separate and divide different groups of AMERICANS when we should all be pulling together as AMERICANS.  I take nothing away from Cain as a fighter, he is a training, fighting machine. He may even over train, I don't know, but he does get injured allot. I think the fight will be closer than some folks think. Last weeks fights from New Orleans were pretty spectacular, I think only 2 out of 12 went the distance.


Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Amokabs on June 10, 2015, 06:35:58 pm
You're correct Judge, he is Cassius clay cocky for sure. It makes for a good shtick  and gets allotted people interested, in him winning or losing. He has a good skill set, faber was saying this week he thinks that mgregor 's only 2 losses were tap out and he questions his ability or I guess his heart when put in a finishing hold. But I believe it's been 5 yrs since  mgregor has lost,  a lot of growth  for mgregor since his last lost. Regardless, I'll get this weeks PPP and prob Aldo mgregor also.


Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Judge peel on June 11, 2015, 12:33:20 pm
Ya most people will tap before injured. But that doesn't make you a better fighter just tuff.


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Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Judge peel on June 15, 2015, 10:58:05 am
Well cain walked right into to that choke he was losing the striking game. That's how it goes when you force a take down at that level


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Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Amokabs on June 15, 2015, 03:00:32 pm
That fight was worth the $$. Good card


Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Jabo on June 15, 2015, 09:08:26 pm
Yes very good fight. Man was I wrong abt the Cain/Werdum fight. You could tell 2 mn into the first round that Cain just wasn't himself. That high altitude really took it out of him. His cardio, which he's well known for, just wasn't there. And I'm sure the long lay off didn't hell either. Werdum looked great though. It's amazing how good his striking has gotten and how well rounded he's become these last couple yrs. Every since the Fedor fight he's seemed to really improve. I'm hoping it's him and Dos Santos next.


Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Amokabs on June 16, 2015, 01:31:19 pm
I always liked dos santos, but boy, did cain have his number. I'm sure cain will kearn alot from this fight and be a much more dangerous fighter because of it,  it just seems  its hard for the heavyweight champion to hang on to the belt for an extended period.


Title: Re:
Post by: Fixitlouie on June 16, 2015, 07:23:44 pm
As a martial arts guy I hate most wrestlers.  I hate the way thay grind on you using strength instead of technical moves like judo, bjj.. but I really like Cain. Too bad to lose like that.  On Aldo vs McGregor.  I dont know McGregor ground skillsn he is light on his feet I like that but dont know his overall mma Skills


Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Judge peel on June 16, 2015, 08:02:36 pm
McGregor is still evolving I think his ground game is good enough to survive his cardio is in the elite set strikes are top notch but what I think set him apart is his study of himself not others most fighters train for each fight and have a certain game plan he doesn't train like that he polishes his skills not his plan. I think most fans will be in shock after this fight


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Title: Re:
Post by: TheRednose on June 17, 2015, 11:57:54 pm
As a martial arts guy I hate most wrestlers.  I hate the way thay grind on you using strength instead of technical moves like judo, bjj.. but I really like Cain. Too bad to lose like that.  On Aldo vs McGregor.  I dont know McGregor ground skillsn he is light on his feet I like that but dont know his overall mma Skills

I respectfully disagree with you, I will say as a martial artist and an ex college wrestler both that wrestling is not all strength and is very much technique based too, as much as Judo. Its just when its at the highest levels you get the best athletes who usually tend to be strong and make it look easy. When I was still fighting professionally I liked keeping it on the feet, but my first few pro fights I would just take them down immediately because I had a lot of people there and I did not want to get surprised in front of them. One of the first things I learned about MMA is anything can happen when you only wear 4 oz gloves!


Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Judge peel on June 18, 2015, 10:39:00 am
The thing bout mma is anything can happen guys lose all the time to some one with less  accolades in there discipline. The hardest thing to deal with is a clean powerful strike nothing beats that now second best skill is movement then chin then wrestling or take down body control after that all disciplines bout the same. Don't really matter how good you are in those things at that level cuz every one is the greats just do it and make the other guy fight his way   


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Title: Re: Re:
Post by: Fixitlouie on June 18, 2015, 04:44:42 pm
As a martial arts guy I hate most wrestlers.  I hate the way thay grind on you using strength instead of technical moves like judo, bjj.. but I really like Cain. Too bad to lose like that.  On Aldo vs McGregor.  I dont know McGregor ground skillsn he is light on his feet I like that but dont know his overall mma Skills

I respectfully disagree with you, I will say as a martial artist and an ex college wrestler both that wrestling is not all strength and is very much technique based too, as much as Judo. Its just when its at the highest levels you get the best athletes who usually tend to be strong and make it look easy. When I was still fighting professionally I liked keeping it on the feet, but my first few pro fights I would just take them down immediately because I had a lot of people there and I did not want to get surprised in front of them. One of the first things I learned about MMA is anything can happen when you only wear 4 oz gloves!
Your right I must say about techniques in wraslen.. im just not verry good at it and hate when I get matched up with a take down guy....I chose to stay on my feet and sprawl.  Wizard,  forearm to face and upper cuts. If down bridge and get this leach off of me..;)


Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: TheRednose on June 19, 2015, 11:07:03 pm
I like that fixitlouie, I used to do the same thing and I am that take down guy lol. The art of it is being able to use the threat of a take down to give yourself the striking advantage. That is why imo wrestlers will always have the advantage because they choose where the fight takes place whether it be on the feet or on the ground.

And when I say wrestler as referenced above I mean a higher level of wrestler such as a good college wrestler. There is a real big difference in levels, even at the H.S. level for example a state champ from CA or PA is a lot different then a state champ from SC or NV.


Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Ridgedog on June 22, 2015, 11:52:38 am
When McGregor stops bullying little featherweight boys and goes up to lightweight, where he belongs,he wont look so good.Absolutely zero chance against Dos Anjos,Cowboy Cerrone ,Pettis and co. Mcgregor can actually fight as a welterweight without looking out of shape so there is definitely a huge weight and power advantage when he rehydrates and carbs up after they weigh ins which I think is the main reason he barrels through opponents.


Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Judge peel on June 22, 2015, 01:31:01 pm
Most all fighters cut 10 to 20 lbs off what they walk on the street 10 lbs heavier don't make or break your skill set. The only fighters who don't cut weight for the most part is heavy weight. I ain't no betting man but I would say he would do just as good at 155 vs 145 becuz as you say he will be able to hit harder with ten more lbs lol. There are good fighters at all classes some guys can fight in two but most can't but his true test is coming up shortly so will see


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Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Shotgun66 on June 22, 2015, 07:10:01 pm
McGregor presents a unique challenge to the 145lb class with his height, reach, and style. He is a lefty as well. A very unique fighter in that weight class. Aldo is a great fighter and a true champion. He has been on top of that class for a long time. All fighters lose at some point. Aldo's quickness against MCGregors size and reach should make for an interesting fight. I look for Aldo to employ a   " sugar ray Leonard" approach. Make McGregor chase him. Frustrate McGregor into pressing and make a mistake. If he lets McGregor get confident early, it will be a bad night for him. I could see Aldo by decision or McGregor by KO or TKO.


Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Judge peel on June 22, 2015, 07:33:18 pm
It's going to be good no matter who wins but I don't think it will last long lol


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Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Judge peel on June 24, 2015, 10:39:57 pm
Well they said on fox sports that aldo might not fight due to bruised ribs if he can't chad Mendez will fight. Will see what happens sounds like a guy thinking he might lose so he is throwing a reason out there before hand lol just in case 


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Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Judge peel on July 01, 2015, 10:26:06 pm
Well aldo pulled just like McGregor predicted 4 months ago lol. I think the Mendez fight will be better I don't see it lasting long McGregor will probly knock him out early with the style that Mendez has head out going forward. Imo the only chance he has is to clinch as fast as possible go to take down and hold him as long as he can lol


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Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: grittydog on July 01, 2015, 10:38:04 pm
McGregor has a big mouth, Im ready for someone to shut it. We will see how good of a fighter that he really is in his next few fights.


Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Judge peel on July 01, 2015, 10:54:18 pm
They all have big mouths bro for good reason they are pro fighters lol.


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Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Amokabs on July 02, 2015, 06:09:53 pm
This will mcgregor's highest quality opponent to date. We'll know if  mcgregor's  talent lives up to his hype. Whoever wins will be matching Aldo soon enough. It appears Aldo has a history of pulling out of fights with injury, but he sure has had a long unbeaten streak. Should be interesting, but I think mendes will surprise people.


Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Judge peel on July 02, 2015, 07:01:21 pm
Aldo has pulled out as many times as he has defended so I think Mendez is a better fight any way. I think Mendez will come straight out go for take down and throw the same right hand he always does proly get knocked out by a right head kick or a straight right with left hook just my observation. If he gets a take down and let's conor up he will probly thro those crazy elbows as he gets up. I think the best chance Mendez has is to clench and just thro haymakers


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Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Amokabs on July 03, 2015, 12:10:53 pm
Mendes has impressed me with his hand speed and striking at times. And his mama wrestling is top tier. Should make for a good fight. We'll see if mcgregor's  worthy of all the hype. I know Dana is really pushing mcgregor's, it's a good business strategy as ufc tries to open even more markets across the globe.  Another point of interest as far as ufc goes, is how the monopoly lawsuit will turn out that has been filed


Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Judge peel on July 10, 2015, 10:25:47 pm
Well we bout to find out going to be a very good card. The weigh in was crazy lol they ready to go


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Title: Re:
Post by: Fixitlouie on July 11, 2015, 09:39:27 am
Lets get ready to rumble. .....

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Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Shotgun66 on July 11, 2015, 04:54:49 pm
Yes sir! I might come out of pay per view retirement for this one!
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I think McGregor is just too big for the guys in that weight class. It could get really interesting if Mendes can find a way to get inside and/or get him to the ground.
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I'm pickin McGregor by KO in the second. I think he has a chance to be the Andersen Sylva of the 145lb class. Mendes is a top shelf fighter. I just don't see how he will be able to get to McGregor. Should be fun to watch.


Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Judge peel on July 11, 2015, 11:57:43 pm
Wow what a card. Looks like this man is the real deal. Hats off to Mendez he took him down but could not do much from what I seen It took all of his strength to hold em down but the very first shot was imo the winning strike. Chad hit him with his hardest shots didn't even back the dude up. Big props to Mendez for the no excuse comments after the fight.


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Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: TazD on July 12, 2015, 06:25:25 am
Last night's UFC card was very good!
Gunner is what I feel is a very good fighter! He was fighting someone like Conners, the guy was huge for the class, long legs and arms, good striking and kicking skills! Gunner trains with Conners, so he knows how to handle long and strong! Keep distance, explode in on your opponent with clean strkes, take him to the ground, and say good night!! Very calm, confident fighter! And sick ground skills! He was like a snake, going from one control to the next till he sunk in the choke! He was very impressive!
Fight of the night was Roy and Robbie! Rory should of won the fight when he had Robbie out on his feet! Rory should of stepped back and started leg kicking then dropping the combos with elbows, slipped him to the ground  and finished it!
I am not as impressed with Conner! He is  20-25lbs bigger then his weight class, very tall and long for the class, keeps his hands to low, and really has no ground game. Definitely confident, some very clean striking and kicking skills, great condition, and makes other fighters fight his fight.
Chad was out of shape bottom line!! He had 2wks to take the fight! He is a class act!! No excuses and thanking everyone!! Need more like 5hat in sports today!!Had no problem hitting Connners, and taking him down! Unfortunately he had no gas in the tank to do anything once he got him down, is to short, and ended up just standing in front of Conners. I feel Edger would of been alot better fight! Edger has Crazy conditioning, takes a a$$ whooping like nobody, very good hands and movement, great ground skills, and is a grinder!! Always pressureing with fist, elbows, and kicks, till he takes you to the ground!! Problem he will have is he is short as well, but he would not run out of gas!!
It's going to take a very well conditioned, well rounded, confident fighter to take Conners, and it's not Aldo!!


Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Judge peel on July 12, 2015, 07:23:18 am
TazD you bout right on all that but I think Conor's ground game is better than we think cuz Mendez is as good as they come on taking you to the ground. Conor will destroy aldo like a pit bull on a piglet lol. Gunner was very impressive you can tell they train together. Lawler was just to tough for Rory not the better fighter just more grit. We can always say well this and that but bottom line is the winner won. I think conor will fight aldo then Mendez vs edger winner vs conor I say Mendez will win that fight. Then it will be rematch with Mendez and you will see what a full camp will do. I want to see Conor at 155


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Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: TazD on July 12, 2015, 08:20:49 am
I agree Judge. Conner will do 2 more fights at 145lb. Make 10-15million, then move up to 155lbs, and make some more till he meets his match, like all good fighters do!! Lol..


Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Judge peel on July 12, 2015, 08:43:47 am
Ya tazD when you truly under stand the skill and techniques of these guys you know what a foot turned means vs hand position where your hips are in relation to your opponent. The biggest thing a fighter can have is calmness in the storm and confidence in his skill set. And so many skills out there that can beat another clean strikes are the best then body control and movement IMO. I new after the first strike it was over lol cuz Mendez should went straight to take down and he didn't. Nothing against Mendez I think he thought he would do better with the exchanges and he did land some goodens 


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Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: TazD on July 12, 2015, 09:59:05 am
Judge, Mendez should of kept him on his back to win, he cannot beat a good striker. He was just in poor cardiovascular condition, lost heart, and gave up!! Look at Rory and Robbie!! Both beat to number 2, and still going at it!! Bummer for Rory and his nose!! Lol...
 When Mendez had Conners on his back, Conners held him in full guard! When Conners bridged in guard Mendez would be moved to his belly and Conners was nailing him with elbows to the top of his head!! If Conners was good on the ground the fight would of been over then!! All he had to do was go for the triangle or arm bar after elbow striking the top of Mendez head! Mendez was extending his arms and standing up his lower body for leverage!! Exactly  what you want to transition into a submission! ! You can bet your a$$ Gunner would of submitted Mendez from that position!!


Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Amokabs on July 12, 2015, 12:19:08 pm
Another herb Dean early stoppage.a championship fight of this calibre and u don't give  Mendez 3 seconds to the end of the rounds d?c on man!


Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Judge peel on July 12, 2015, 12:22:17 pm
Ya I hear what your saying but with Mendez on top I think that would be a wrong move due to his compact build I think conor did exactly the right thing pull guard strike as you can make him try to move and stand up just as he did or have the reff stand up if you look it was taking way to much effort on chads part to posture enough to strike. I don't think cardio will make much difference the longer the fight will favor conor. But we will see. Camp and cardio don't make chin or power


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Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Judge peel on July 12, 2015, 01:31:51 pm
It don't matter if it's one second or two min when a guy hits the floor and covers his face its a good stop dude was in a ball and took few min to get up never once did Mendez say unfair stop so that means he was done. And Mendez is a tough fighter


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Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Amokabs on July 12, 2015, 05:07:19 pm
Mendez was all class, and only had 2 weeks to prepare. Obviously not in championship fight shape.  But he was defending himself, his hand was up and shielding blows, he would of weathered 3 seconds  , then he could of recovered between rounds, or his corner could've thrown in the towel. But at that level of promotion for a fight, I think u gotta let the guy have every chance. Lord, if the lawyer macdonald fight had been called like that, it'd never gone to the 5 th round. Hey, I got a question , just from a old guy that enjoys watching ufc.  In my eyes, the lawyer macdonald fight may go down as the greatest ufc fight of all times. But do you think that fight, in general, has the potential to be the beginning of the end , or a even more regulated sport?  Just like there are bed wetting liberals that use everything they can to legislate hogdogiing or outlaw, do you think the lawyer macdonald fight was so brutal that it will give those same folks that are trying to shut down and regulate to death mma a platform in pictures to back up their arguments? Should the fight have been stopped by the ringside doctor before macdonald dropped to the canvas in a fetal position, holding the bloody remains of his nose? Could the greatest fight in ufc history be used as a reason to change the sport or ban it? In the post fight , Dana said macgregor couldn't even tell them what day it was and had his nose broke in the first round, he said those things as an affirmation of macdonald said fighting spirit. But antis could also use those same words to strengthen their cause.    I guess also I was surprised by the difference in the two main events, as far as stopping the fight. I realize macgregor kept coming out , round after round. And lawyer had a split lip like I never saw in a fight before. Awesome fight, but wow, I just don't see how macgregor ever is the same again.  Just kinda thinking out loud here, word salad style. Last, who else thinks Matt brown shoulda got performance or knock out of the night instead of macgregor?  I know it's great business for Dana and ufc to push macgregor and expand their brand to Ireland, but sometimes you push so hard, it makes one wonder if Dana isn't becoming too don kingish.  All that said, it was the best 59$ I've spent in a while, excellent card.


Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Judge peel on July 12, 2015, 07:48:41 pm
Don king was a greedy peace of crap imo 


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Title: Re:
Post by: Fixitlouie on July 27, 2015, 04:18:03 pm
Judge your opinion is fact on this one^^

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Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Judge peel on July 27, 2015, 09:00:54 pm
Lol I don't think aldo will return I think he was banking on mendes beating McGregor. But will see I hope he does fight cuz he is good when he does fight


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Title: Re: McGregor vs Aldo
Post by: Judge peel on December 13, 2015, 08:39:28 am
Wow good fights rockhold showed out I sure didn't see that coming but hey dude is good. And good for him. But the cake goes to McGregor dude has TnT in that left hand once again it proves nothing stops a clean strike it's king of the ring. Aldo looked scared then was crying like a baby. The best was joe rogen when aldo said it wasn't a fight and said ya it was you just lost. Aldo left hit McGregor dead on did nothing I think in a rematch aldo would look like hamburger meat by the second rd. I like what McGregor said that he deserved to last a little longer lol. Dude was right timing beats speed and precision beats power


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