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Title: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 10, 2015, 01:04:09 pm How many do you catch a year? The other thread about what a hog dog is has me wondering with all the different opinions. Especially the walk hunters.. How many hogs you catch a year. And I'm sure someone will say it's not how many you catch some have more hogs than others but I would like to get and idea and how many hogs some of you guys actually catch a year
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Shotgun66 on October 10, 2015, 03:19:58 pm Good post. Responses (or lack of responses) should be interesting.
- I do NOT own a Top Shelf All Around Hog Dog. I catch 15 to 20 hogs a year (shoats not included) on about 25 hunts a year . - I work between 50 and 60 hours a week and only get to hunt weekends outside of deer season and the occasional weekday when I can slip off work. I primarily walk hunt within 3 hours of the DFW Metroplex. We run a solid loose bay strike dog, a couple of gritty/catchy help dogs, and a solid catch dog. None of them are superstars by any means. - When I get the occasional opportunity to drive wheat/crop fields, the gritty help dogs do pretty good. Nothing like a top shelf RCD type dog would. I don't even cut our loose bay find dog out in these situations. We definitely catch more hogs this way. - We can find them in sign as good as any body. We don't have the ability, grit, athleticism in our pack to catch a real deal running hog. Our loose bay find dog has the bottom to stick with them. Our help dogs do not. The loose bay find dog does not have the grit to make a hog stop if it breaks. We get outclassed from time to time due to these deficiencies. All the spring rain we had created a lot of tall grass and ground cover this year. It has been tough to get them caught this summer. - Put us in good sign with unspoiled hogs, our dogs look better than they are. - I have hunted hard in years past and put hands on 100+ hogs easy in a year. Not all with my dogs. - In my opinion, if you get hogs caught 7 out of 10 times that you start em, you have a top shelf DOG or PACK. I also believe a man will catch more hogs with a solid PACK than they will with a top shelf solo dog. Rough dogs catch more hogs than loose dogs in my opinion. Loose dogs do it with better style, tend to be better in scarce sign, and take less damage doing it in my opinion. - How many times does the dog or dogs finish what they start? How effective are they when they get their opportunities? These are the only objective ways to evaluate any dog or dogs. A dog might be a superstar in crop fields and be terrible walk hunting in timber. Let the style/situation debate continue. Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 10, 2015, 03:30:18 pm Glad I got one response after 30 views and no responses I began to wonder lol.
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Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: l.h.cracker on October 10, 2015, 04:52:31 pm Never wrote them down or counted but we usually hunt 2-3 nights a week sometimes more sometimes less but 2 is average. Out of the 2 we catch about 80% of the time and its not uncommon to catch 2 at a time once they find them If we have have 2 or more on the ground.Although we do go through some hot streaks and dry spells due to conditions and pressure on the areas we're hunting. Haven't caught a hog in the last 4 hunts due to the conditions the water is extremely high and the hogs are extremely pressured by goat hunters.We've only jumped a couple in those 4 hunts and they lost the dogs in the water after some 20-30min runs.The other 2 hunts revealed no sign whatsoever.At the beginning of the year I was catching and relocating hogs to my hunting property across the street from my house and in a few months time we put 49 out there.I have friends that have some really good spots that catch way more hogs than me but you can't catch em if they aren't there.Most of the time we catch and release unless hunting for nuisance hogs. Best day we've had this year me and my buddy and 4 dogs tied 7 in just over an hour on the river but that don't happen often where we hunt.All the dogs I run are ruff dogs and I haven't lost one yet.knock on wood.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: labaconchaser on October 10, 2015, 06:25:52 pm Caught 76 this yr had 62 at end of April but slowed down hunting when warm Louisiana weather comesway I work im gone over half the yr so after it warms up i tend to stay at work more that way when first part of yr comes around I can hunt hard I have all ruff dogs sometimes I even run dog/pit on ground as rcd I dont have best dogs but they get it done in a pinch
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 10, 2015, 07:22:58 pm I hunt year round once to 3 times a week we catch a few here and there. Numbers don't really matter to me nether does size just like to be in the woods with my family and friends and my dogs.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Post by: msriverrat on October 10, 2015, 07:48:40 pm 96 this year had to slow down this summer more then usual because of heat and my catchdog dying
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 11, 2015, 12:25:46 am We catch around 250-300 on avg a year. Right around 225 right now and starting to wind down due to goat season fixing to come in. Avg about two trips a week usually one week night and one weekend morning. Start in February and stop at the end of February and start back in May then stop mid October. May go a few times here and there nov and dec.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Bo Pugh on October 11, 2015, 01:26:54 am We usually catch around 200 or so a year and I hunt the same seasons as you do. this year I had some things come up with my dad getting cancer so I spent what off days I had from work with him and didn't hunt any after I found out he was sick. But my total for the year after turkey season I think is 3 haha. Me and another guy was talking the other day about some of the people on this board and I know they seen this thread cause they comment on everything else on here. Its a big difference in talking about hog hunting and actually having to come up with a number at the end of the year of how many they caught lol. you mention walk hunting, when i was in high school I walk hunted and had number 2ty places to hunt and number 2ty dogs to go with that I just couldn't afford anything to ride. When people tell me they walk hunt I know about what kind of caliber dogs their feeding cause I've had to do it and I know these I got now you couldn't walk behind and keep up with I've hunted with quit a few people over the years and met a lot of people and listened to a lot of talk at the gas stations only to come to the same conclusions most of the time that most people have never seen a hog dog and don't know what one really is. So they have nothing to compare to the number 2 eaters their feeding.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Bo Pugh on October 11, 2015, 01:33:18 am This topic had 175 views when I commented on it. More than likely between about 120 of them it aint been 30 hogs tied between all of them. It is a few people on here that have good names for knowing what good dogs are but its a pile of them on here that don't know
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: brushbusters on October 11, 2015, 05:31:11 am Never counted em but to throw a # at it Id say chingos
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 11, 2015, 07:34:06 am Bo Pugh so your saying if you walk hunt your dogs are crap eaters. Well dang I guess I need to get a better job and buy a buggy so they will be better lol
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: l.h.cracker on October 11, 2015, 07:40:28 am Lol if you're dogs are ruff they ain't hog dogs and if you walk hunt they ain't hog dogs lol.wow I might have to gracefully bow out and quite coming on here because the amount dumbasses.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 11, 2015, 08:09:51 am Cracker this is the main reason I post my thoughts cuz some people say stuff that just ain't the truth. But then again it's really not lies if they believe it its just narrow minded thinking that's all. What ever happened to the days a man said to another man good job fella but that just ain't me and left it at that. Before the modern era all hunting was done off horse back or foot. So I guess all previous dogs from the beginning of the buggy wheeler era where crap eaters lol
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Bo Pugh on October 11, 2015, 08:56:15 am Lol if you're dogs are ruff they ain't hog dogs and if you walk hunt they ain't hog dogs lol.wow I might have to gracefully bow out and quite coming on here because the amount dumbasses. Talking about dumbasses go re read what I posted. I said different caliber dogs. Do you know what that means? the only thing I've ever seen you post that I agree with are the amount of dumbasses its starting to be on here. Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Pwilson_10 on October 11, 2015, 09:02:23 am I don't know why it's bad to walk hunt my dogs will hunt any way u want and catch hogs but I love walk hunting cuz I like to go and find big hog rubs were they live to better my self for the next hunt but I catch about 150 a year I'm not counting baby's like foot ball size but a hog is a hog big or small
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: oconee on October 11, 2015, 09:30:34 am I caught 17 last year and thats a good year for me.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Shotgun wg on October 11, 2015, 10:16:54 am Last year I caught about 60 or so I guess not sure. Got 25 in 5 hunts. It was a decent year. This year on the other hand I have turned dogs out 3 maybe 4 times. Not a single hog caught. January it's on tho. I now have a place to hunt where I moved to and surely it will rain by then.
Shotgun Arkansas Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: l.h.cracker on October 11, 2015, 10:37:25 am You said that if people walk hunt you know the caliber of dogs they feed.How in the F@#& did you become so smart to know the caliber of dogs every walk Hunter feeds?just cause a dog checks in it is a lower caliber dog?Ride your expensive buggy to the boat ramp with your high caliber dogs and leave it there get on a boat with me and I will take you to a place that you can drop your high caliber dogs you can't keep up with then I'll bring you back to your expensive buggy and you can drive it home with a sad face and no more dogs to feed because they're gator sh@t. I never got on here one time and generalized about any hunting dog or hunting style because what works for you damn sure won't work for me. A high caliber dog in your neck of the woods is a dog that will not survive in mine.If you can argue that point than you truly are an ignorant man.I have stated past post I have nothing wrong with long range loose dogs I just have no practical use for one at the moment.Even though I primarily walk hunt I do travel and hunt my dogs in other ways such as road,rig night vision,Airboat sight or wind hunt and catch hogs in all ways so if I can do all this with success then how are these type of dogs a lesser dog?
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 11, 2015, 11:00:17 am Bo me and you hunt the same country. I think me and you are also the only bama boys on here. Bo and I both catch about the same amount of hogs and he and I both will tell you there are people around here that catch more. I get about the same assumption on MOST walk hunters. I just don't see a walk hunting dog being the ticket. I wouldn't own one. And there's gators up here too. A high caliber dog is a high caliber dog I don't care what terrain your in....
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 11, 2015, 11:14:48 am This thread wasn't started to be a pissing match but to the people that comment on every dang thread like they know everything there is to know about a dog and don't catch a handful of hogs makes you wonder. No you don't have to have a buggy to catch a hog but I don't know how you could walk hunt and catch anything. Unless your catching by sight... Or unless you like walking all dang day for a hog... I used to walk hunt too when I was 15 and my dog wasn't worth a bullet. There is a few walk hunters I know of that catch plenty of hogs and I'm sure one will come to comment soon. But still a lot of people that like to play mr know it all about hog dogs wont even think about posting on this thread bc they don't even catch hogs. My dogs aren't special or at least I don't think they are but they sure seem to catch hogs..
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: l.h.cracker on October 11, 2015, 12:09:14 pm You didn't start the thread to be a pissing match just wanted to let everyone who hunts different than you that they're not doing it right and can't catch a hog in your opinion?Correct?There's different environments within every state and each one needs to be approached differently. You do have gators in Alabama yes are your hunting spots filled with them? If there is no way to get a vehicle to your hunting spot than how do you hunt it other than walk?If your dogs are good you should be able to hunt them anywhere and anyway with success in my opinion. You are talking about things and situations that you have no idea or personal knowledge of.Bo and you catch hogs I'm sure but so do we just in a different manor and it damn sure ain't by sight when we're walking. So how can y'all keep generalizing and making ignorant statement after ignorant statement that you can't call a dog a hog dog if its rough and you can't have a high caliber dog if you walk hunt?These things are simply not true.You can argue till you're blue in the face but unless you've been in the woods with a man and his dogs you have no idea what caliber of dogs he feeds and your just another fool running his motor.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 11, 2015, 12:26:34 pm I like a rough dog so I ain't said that. And I also said you could have a decent walk dog and some do... Just said the ones I have seen weren't worth a bullet.. I started the thread bc I think a lot of dang posters on this board haven't caught enough hogs or hunted enough to even have a valid opinion.. Much less to be talking about how a dog should be breed. There is a lot of good knowledge on this board that I have learned a lot from this is also a lot of bs and people don't even know what they are talking about.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 11, 2015, 12:28:12 pm Yee yee just running they mouth!!! I walk hunt most of the time we catch hogs more times than not and my spots ain't over run with hogs ether. People just jealous of what they see and them ain't biscuits where catching yee yee
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 11, 2015, 12:38:57 pm Coming from someone that hasn't posted what they catch just says numbers don't matter....
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 11, 2015, 12:59:33 pm I catch plenty fella none that really matter does it if a man has good dogs and few hogs the dogs have to put in a ton more work to catch a hog. If a fella has a ton of hogs in his area his numbers will be higher. Don't mean his dogs are any better just they had more opertunity to be successful that's it so if you catch 15 average hogs 150 or so and the other guy catches 4 real nice hogs I would say the latter of the two is better my opinion only. Now since you stated numbers I seen a certain fella posted his was 17 me and this fella don't hardly ever agree but I can say by the area he is in and what he does I can respect that number as hard caught. Now a guy says he catches 200 or 300 I would say he is hunting in a heavy population of hogs. Not that his dogs are high caliber unless I seen em in person. We all have dogs and catch hogs some more than others don't really mean that much you ain't turning water to wine you are taking a animal that was tamed over thousands of yrs to hunt wow big achievement.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: l.h.cracker on October 11, 2015, 01:04:24 pm Pot calling the kettle black posting on things they have no idea about.Other men's dogs and styles lol.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hoghunter71409 on October 11, 2015, 01:12:47 pm I claim to have one "hog dog" at the present time. She is 12 years old and as Toby Keith would say " she aint as good as she once was, but she is as good once as she ever was". She is slower than she was and slower than most, but she will still get the job done. I don't count every hog I catch and what I can say is that I caught less hog last year than in years past. I would estimate that in the past 12 years that I have hunted her, she has probably found and bayed about 250-300 hogs by herself and she has probably been on another 250-300 with other dogs. She has been cut in every place imaginable, punctured lungs, broke ribs..you name it. I call her a hog dog. She will take a hot track quick and she will grind out a medium track. Ive never walk hunted, but no doubt she will hunt anyway a dog can be hunted. She rides the rig rack and does everything well, best way to hunt her is to turn her loose.
So, back to the original question, in most years past I can estimate that I catch about 30-50 hogs per year. Ocassionaly I'll have a day where I catch more than one per hunt. Okay, so all my jabbering is to say, I can talk dogs, I can estimate hog counts, I can type just about anything from behind this screen. What I really care about is having fun while I am hog hunting. I like being in the woods with good guys and my sons. I like getting my dogs on the ground and I always hope that I go home with all my dogs safely and hopefully I don't break or lose equipment. I don't really even care for pork; unless it is a nice barr hog, it stays in the woods (for the most part). I know this is a public forum and people can say what they want, but I post a lot less these days because of all the bickering. If I read something I don't agree with, I just don't reply. I am on three sites, this being one of them. I read this one this most because there are a lot of posts but I enjoy the other two more than this because the hunters respect each other. I learn more from the other two sites, but this one is more entertaining....kind of reminds me of my 6 and 8 yr old fighting. I really don't care how many hogs other people catch or I don't care what kind of dogs they feed. To each their own. I let three nice grown dogs go last year and I packed back up on pups, just to try to get better dogs. I think if most people focused on what they are doing and not what everyone else was or wasn't doing, some of yall may sleep better at night. Oh by the way, if anyone wants to come hunt with me sometime, just let me know. I just like to hunt! Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 11, 2015, 01:16:00 pm I have not said numbers make you a hog hunter.... But experience does make a difference and for experience you might need to catch a few hogs... .the main people that have so much to say on every thread about how awesome there dogs are have not even commented on this thread. Shotgun66 says he catches 15-20 hogs a year for about 25 hunts. There ain't nothing wrong with that. That's catching a hog about everytime he goes. So I would say he has some decent dogs... Yes terrain and where you hunt matter. I have good places to hunt just like I have crappy places to hunt... I have been a places that would make a sorry dog look like a star and places that would make an ace look like chit. But you take someone that catches a pile of hogs he can catch hogs where you do too... My opinion won't change on the fact that there are two many wannabes that don't know hardly what they are talking about
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 11, 2015, 01:21:53 pm What is a wanna be
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 11, 2015, 01:24:04 pm wan·na·be
ˈwänəbē,ˈwônəbē/ nouninformalderogatory noun: wannabe; plural noun: wannabes; noun: wanna-be; plural noun: wanna-bes a person who tries to be like someone else or to fit in with a particular group of people. "a star-struck wannabe" Origin 1980s: representing a pronunciation of want to be . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 11, 2015, 01:32:34 pm Nice Google search I wonder who that would be on this site since you seem to know all the info. Google it see who comes up
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 11, 2015, 01:34:02 pm Well you asked what not who...
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(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/11/1195f433c53f6b56b935203f5d7a2fcb.jpg) Best I could come up with on Google. But hey your name was on there lol To the other names on that search I'm not talking about yall lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 11, 2015, 02:40:35 pm Nice I am a wannabe do I win anything
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Pwilson_10 on October 11, 2015, 02:49:11 pm Y can't u have long range dogs and walk hunt u cast them out and walk to them is that walk hunting cuz other then that what is yall bama boys def of walk hunting I want to know unless yall mean like walk along and push ur dogs around tell u jump hogs is that what yall are calling walk hunting ???
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: oconee on October 11, 2015, 03:08:57 pm Crack head and Judge Pee are both too insecure for anyone to post their opinion of what a "goog hog dog" actually is. Guys just keep it to yourselves, your gonna step on their toes EVERY time you make a comment.
I have stated my opinion on thid site on several occasionas and its always the same "wanna be's" getting butthurt. WOW. I don't hunt Alabama but I can tell from a small sample of comments on this site that I would damn sure rather feed the types of dogs Bo and hansonw describe thani would the dogs Judge and his cheerleadin buddy tell us about. Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on October 11, 2015, 03:28:45 pm I'll be the first to admit that I rarely catch hogs. I live in north Georgia. Not many hogs here. I wait on a phone call from land owners saying the hogs are there. Because 9 times out of 10 there just moving through. Have to be there when they are or your just pissing in the wind. And when I do go to places most of the time I like to be on foot. When we catch a hog im so freaking excited to have caught that joker its like Christmas morning for a kid. High fives and ribbing each other about whos dog struck that sucker. That's about how many hogs I catch. And its the same way weather there big or small. I probably dont have high caliber dogs. We just get lucky from time to time. I get on this site because I love dogs and bloodlines. And even though I dont catch many hogs I love hog hunting. Theres a ton of good information on this site and also a ton of good folks.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 11, 2015, 03:32:08 pm Georgia Hawgs that's bout how I look at it but I do catch a good number of hogs most are bigger hogs. But I really don't see how you catch more makes much difference.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 11, 2015, 03:38:24 pm There you go again popping off old boy was saying cuz I didn't post a number I am a wannabe what a stupid remark. Just like walk hunting means you have sorry dog most places I hunt a wheeler or buggy are useless at a certain point. But I have stated before I run rougher short range dogs big whoop. Y'all got high caliber big deal if I would have said I catch 200 a yr would I then be a real dogger like y'all
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 11, 2015, 04:00:41 pm Judge I never said you were a wannabe you said that not me...
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 11, 2015, 04:02:57 pm I was honestly thinking most of yall caught 300-500 hogs a year. If I thought yall caught 10 I wouldn't of asked.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 11, 2015, 04:12:14 pm If you caught 500 where I am there would be no more hogs lol
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on October 11, 2015, 04:16:08 pm Georgia Hawgs that's bout how I look at it but I do catch a good number of hogs most are bigger hogs. But I really don't see how you catch more makes much difference. yee yee. . ;DSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on October 11, 2015, 04:19:36 pm I like to gig frogs, I like to gut hogs , and swim in tha creek with my bird dogs uh huhhh
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 11, 2015, 04:25:41 pm And widdle a good stick
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: l.h.cracker on October 11, 2015, 04:36:38 pm Oconee all I've done once again is stated facts and have said nothing about anyone's dogs not being good in fact just as the last thread when you threw the first stone I was simply explaining the conditions I personally hunt and what dogs work for me.Never said that anyone's dogs are not as good as mine or way better but you ain't gonna talk smack and generalize everyone else who runs different than you without some sort of retort.You sure are one annoying sucker I bet you got beat up a lot growing up.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: oconee on October 11, 2015, 04:44:23 pm I used to really get into turkey hunting in the spring and after several yrs I got to a point in which I thought I was a very good turkey hunter. One spring a buddy of mine was having one hell of a season and had killed a few nice toms and was telling of the great numbers of young birds he had called up. With all his stories of success I begin to think to myself that he must really be a good turkey hunter. Well as luck would have it he invited me on a hunt on the last day of the season. We heard probably close to 70 birds on the ranch he had been hunting that mourning and worked over 10 different very responsive gobblers. We did kill a tom but I realized in one day that guy might have been the worst turkey hunter I had ever joined but had the best place to hunt that I had ever hunted. Numbers are of no consequence and are 100% dictated by the enviorment available. JMO
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: oconee on October 11, 2015, 04:46:51 pm Yea Cracker, I barely survived my childhood.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: CRC on October 11, 2015, 05:31:40 pm I guarantee you the population of hogs in the area you hunt makes a big difference in how your dogs look. If you throw dogs out in the middle of pigs every time you go of course you're gonna catch more then someone who does not have many hogs to start with. I am blown away by people who say they hunt a couple times a week and catch 300+ hogs a year l. I can't imagine catching at least 3 every time I drop the tailgate. They either have an unbelievable amount of hogs or an unbelievable amount of BS!!
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: bscurdogs on October 11, 2015, 05:45:07 pm I hunt once a week and i walk hunt killed 160 but don't hunt from October - December
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 11, 2015, 05:55:11 pm That is someone who walk hunts that catches hogs.... Bscurdogs can probably wear them out in a good place
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 11, 2015, 09:04:13 pm I just added all my hogs up 62 to date with ten being bigger boars with nice teeth. Which to me don't really matter. I right them down to show progress of the dogs so I can have a accurate account of how they are doing. I wish I could hunt some of the better areas around me I just don't have a spot with high numbers but we do have a high success rate of pigs I start and we mostly walk hunt. There are a lot of young guys that have hunted with me and after hitting two or 3 spots and putting down a good number of miles on foot never want to go with me again.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 11, 2015, 09:23:20 pm I don't blame them lol. There is nothing wrong with walk hunting. I just couldn't do it and seems it could be high on some vet bills with some rough dogs.Yeah we walk to bays and catches 4-500 yds max most of the time drive within a 100 yds. Yeah sometimes we have to swim rivers and all that good stuff but pretty much ride on a ranger drink beer and watch the garmin. I guess it's hard to judge a dog when all you have is crappy places with hardly no hogs... I prefer to catch big hogs and usually hunt big hog tracks but a hog is a hog I just like to take a dog and find a big track and try to catch that hog.. But I also like to catch hogs in numbers
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 11, 2015, 09:25:40 pm I haven't been hunting much here lately gets kind of boring we catch 75-100 hogs most every February...
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 11, 2015, 09:38:53 pm Where I am at you can't really hunt a track from May to November the ground is so dry only track you will see that ain't months old will be in the creek or a pond that might have a touch of water lol. You ain't getting no buggy or truck in there lol. The times I have hunted good ranches we caught a ton of hogs fast. The better the spot the better the dogs.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: chipolariverman on October 12, 2015, 08:25:00 am I have been wondering how many everyone catches also. We hunt the Tri-States, FL, AL & GA and hunt mostly farms. During the week it is normally 2 or 3 on Wed and Fri and then on Sat there is up to 6 of us. All together we have about 30 dogs from started pups to a dog that can find a hog and stop it to catch dogs. I honestly would not say any of us has a "Hog Dog" based on the post on here. However we do have dogs that can and do find hogs. Now some of the farms we hunt we just go catch hogs, I mean there are plenty of hogs, nothing to catch 4-8 hogs from daylight to lunch. Then some farms we hunt we have to hunt 2-6k acres to find the 6 hogs that call it home, now that is hunting in my opinion. We hunt off 4-wheelers and buggies to cover more ground and I would say that most of our dogs are short to medium range but when you are close to boundries that is what works for us. As far as the numbers, we count every hog, pig, shoat cause in 6 months that pig will be having more pigs and eating up more crops which cost the farmers even more money. EVERY hog is killed on sight, no exceptions, the farmers we hunt for will not tollerate bringing hogs out alive. We hunt from Feb to March, shut down for Turkey season for April and part of May and then back at it through the summer till the end of September. We hunt right through the dead heat of summer, usually from daylight till lunch. Hardly go at night ever.
This year we have caught 185 hogs, pigs and shoats. And on another note NOTHING gets posted on Facebook, that is one of our pet p's. Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: bigo on October 12, 2015, 11:04:12 am Numbers never meant much to me and I'll give a couple of examples. One hunt that stands out in my mind is one where I caught 12 hogs one morning and thought the dogs looked like hammered poop. I think I could of caught hogs with my wife's housedog and if you were not there, most people would think that was one outstanding set of dogs. Other times, I've caught one hog and thought the dog or dogs performed flawlessly. I let my eyes and ears tell me how good the dogs perform and not numbers.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: warrent423 on October 12, 2015, 12:40:30 pm These days, only enough to keep a steady supply of pork in my freezers. When I carry a cur to the woods to hunt hogs, it's to "catch" them, not watch them run them in circles for 6 miles and 6 hours on a garmin, drinking beer. ;) Used to haul 2 dogs. Have had to get it done with just one this past year.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Nannyslayer on October 12, 2015, 03:30:07 pm I don't have but one dog I'd call a hog dog, the rest just run amuck lookin for something to bark at.
Last year we killed around 52 hogs. We don't hunt in the spring or summer, and quit hunting from the end of Ocotober till the end of November (deer season, bow and then rifle). Most of the hogs we catch or kill are in January and February. We mostly cast hunt our dogs, we are fortunate enough to have extremely large tracks of conservation ground to hunt with roads going around and through most of it. Now and again I head out on foot to walk some dogs into places. As far as huntin styles, why in the world does it bother other people the way another man hunts? Walk hunt, cast hunt just get your butts out there and hunt!! Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: oconee on October 12, 2015, 04:31:04 pm Numbers never meant much to me and I'll give a couple of examples. One hunt that stands out in my mind is one where I caught 12 hogs one morning and thought the dogs looked like hammered poop. I think I could of caught hogs with my wife's housedog and if you were not there, most people would think that was one outstanding set of dogs. Other times, I've caught one hog and thought the dog or dogs performed flawlessly. I let my eyes and ears tell me how good the dogs perform and not numbers. This is my opinion 100% and is what most people don't understand. Amount of hogs or just the fact that you catch hogs has NOTHING to do with the quality of dogs being turned loose. Every dog has his day but that day doesn't make him a hog dog. Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on October 12, 2015, 05:27:59 pm They way the auther of this thread went about it made me not want to comment on it because i didn't really have anything good to say towards his remarks and how arrogant this thread was presented. It's people like this that have caused many good dogmen on here to quite posting anything useful and also to just forget about this forum all together. Threads and attitudes like how this thread was posed has the complete opposite effect. It doesn't bring many of the laid back dog men out, rather it pushes them away. Who wants to share stories with someone so high on themselves and conceded. Forums such as this is a great way for good dog men to help others in a non biased way. But they can't do it publicly on here do to crap like this and the know it all's who seek others attention and want to be known on here as good dog men and good hog hunters because they think they are and want others to see them the way they veiw themselves. When in fact their analyzations of what's happening is mediocre at best and they are very biased to their style.
If you will look at some of the people on here that post a lot such as Judge and Cracker (just examples because they have gotten flack lately about how much they comment on here) they don't promote their way to people. Yeah they are proud of their dogs and like to share stories but they are active on here not because they are seeking a spotlight and attention but rather because they like helping others in un biased ways. They respect all styles of hog dogging like to talk about hog dogging no matter what kinda dogs you run. Pretty soon like cracker said they will get their fill of the ignorant arrogant biased know it all people on here and go away. No matter to them and the people that know them from here and communicate with them off the sight. Nothing will be lost between those people but it's the new people that lurk and read anything good they can that will suffer do to the biased know it all's that want the megaphone and for the new guys starting out to look up to them as some of the greats that have already come and gone on here. Many things make up a good hog dogger. Good dogs are not the only thing. Some people don't need good dogs and an area thick with pigs to look good. To many people that are struggling are focused on getting good dogs when in fact they could turn their kennel and hunting grounds over to a special well rounded kinda guy and the same spots with the same dogs look easy and fruitful. I hope the guys and gals of tomorrow that are starting out now and see this forum as of great interest and insight, see the guys such as this thread starter and s$!t starter for the glory hound wanna be spotlight craving biased fool that he is and others like him are and realize it it because of people like them that keep good people silent and off this forum. Thankfully we still have many people on here that are worth looking up to but I see so many of them going silent. The archives is a great place to get info on and learn about the great people that have participated on this forum in years past. Many of them are extremely active hog doggers, just not active on this forum anymore do to geniuses like this thread starter, but their personal contact info is still same. I know because it's how i am now friends with several of the greats that are no longer active here. Just a little FYI for the guys that aren't worthy to comment on this thread for only the true great hog dog men of this forum. Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 12, 2015, 05:40:32 pm The way I went about the thread is how many hogs do you actually catch. I don't think I have the best I know of better but if I'm catching 250 a year and think my dogs are average is makes me wonder why somebody thinks that have some sho enough hog dogs and don't catch a slab of bacon and two pork chops all year long is the first two give their advice. Just like you came to comment but you want put a number on it... It's not a pissing contest and if you think it is I'm sorry. I was just looking at it as I don't need advice from someone who doesn't even catch hogs.. I mean look at some of this threads on here. Like breeding to coyotes and junk like be for real
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Semmes on October 12, 2015, 06:05:09 pm Good post Black Streak...
I think most can spot a chest thumping, chit starter by just the tone of the topic he started... Ain't nobody got to quantify their catches, or qualify their dogs to nobody but themselves... If you do it just takes the fun right out of the sport. Thruth is there is no perfect hogdog for every person in every spot every time. If you like your dogs and they satisfy you and you have fun with them and family and friends in your time away from the grind then your doin right. If a person ain't and they expect more then they will move a different direction of their own accord. Ain't nobody's right to say what brings someone else joy is not just right for that person... That's Forrest's thoughts on the matter and that's all I got to say bout that Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 12, 2015, 06:09:14 pm I really don't see how a number makes the dogs better that is ridiculous. If you drop your dogs and in no time flat have a few hogs caught lets say 3 then there was more than likely 10 times that amount there. I am more concerned with catching the one they start and the dog goes and finds a hog and I don't have to drop on a track take into the wind bla bla bla. You don't have to have many yrs doing something to be good but time In service does ad to you knowledge in a over all manor. Some times I think fellas are just to set in one way of thinking.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 12, 2015, 06:46:03 pm It's not about numbers but it's hard not to make it about numbers when that comes to experience. If I have a 10 month old pup that's been on a 100 hogs but yet you have a 2 year old that hasn't been but on 50. It would be hard for me to think that 2 year old is much smarter if he hasn't been on near as many hogs. Dogs get better with what? Age and experience. So if that dog ain't getting experience of being on a hog then what is he learning?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: oconee on October 12, 2015, 06:50:03 pm Mental toughness is essential in life as it is in hog dogs. Anyone who gets thier feeling hurt on these sites might be culls themselves. Many of us have STRONG OPINIONS anf will not back off those OPINIONS for anyones insecurity.
Another thing about these sites is that different mindsets towards hog hunting with dogs. Several guys I see post about having fun and just catching a hog. Guys, I could care less about catching a hog or having fun if my dogs don't preform to a high level. The funny part about this is the guys that say they hunt for fun are the most sensitive on here. One thing I take great pride in is the fact that I know EXCATLY what a TOP-SHELF hog dog looks like and the guys I've hunted with in my life know that too. The kind of dog I consider TOP-SHELF will bay and produce hogs ANYWHERE, and that is not an OPINION! Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 12, 2015, 06:51:29 pm I guess all I'm saying is the dog will never reach is full potential by only keeping him on a handful of hogs a year...i assure in not bragging about 200 hogs a year around hear thats just typical. Figured Texas would have more hogs then bama.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on October 12, 2015, 06:52:06 pm I do the things I do for me and mine. Nobody else. I enjoy being in the woods with the dogs. I like the fact that they'll take out and hunt. When they fall treed on the garmin and I walk 500 yards to grab a dog by the tail and yank him out of a armadillo hole. Oh well. I correct that joker and try again. I honestly believe that if I was thick with hogs i would catch a heck of alot more. My dogs know what a hog is and they love it. They'll get one in the woods alot of times. I'll never catch 500 a year. But thats okay. I feel proud to know that I worked some dogs hard enough in these hit and miss woods that they'll even get after a pig. Its tough where I am for sure. I could probably find better spots but around here its hard to find big property. Nobody owns 5000 acre ranches around here. I aint the trespassing type and wont drop my dogs on 25 acres thats eat up with hogs. No way. Id have to steal trail cameras and all like them outlaws do it. I don't want to have my picture taken with a miller lite and a bulldog. Hahaha... ;D its tough around here. I have one real good spot in florida but heck its a 6 hour ride. Cant do that 3 times a week. Plus I wont lie...alligators and moccasins scare the CRAP out of me!! And that place is LOADED WITH THEM !!
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 12, 2015, 07:02:24 pm Ok if a dog worked twice as hard to find those 50 hog and bayed twice as long as the other dog before the hog was caught bout the same to me. If not better just a thought tho. I went on a hunt with a friend one time he has a good plot dog. We dropped him my two of my dogs. The hound and my lead dog took a track straight off went 11 miles and 4 and 1/2 hrs till they bayed that boar. Mean while my other dog bayed and caught 3 on the way to the other dogs. And we where walking at one point the two dogs where 3.75 miles away. Now I call all three dogs hog dogs. I was just as happy with each dog and guess what we had fun
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: oconee on October 12, 2015, 07:30:22 pm I will answer your question Judge. If the dog that bayed the 3 closer hogs couldn't have bayed the hog the others bayed then he's not in their class IMO because it stands to reason they could've bayed the 3 hogs themselves if they hadn't gotten unlucky and getting on the runner. JMO
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 12, 2015, 07:31:22 pm I hope the guys and gals of tomorrow that are starting out now and see this forum as of great interest and insight, see the guys such as this thread starter and s$!t starter for the glory hound wanna be spotlight craving biased fool that he is and others like him are and realize it it because of people like them that keep good people silent and off this forum. Thankfully we still have many people on here that are worth looking up to but I see so many of them going silent. Glory hound and chit starter? No I'm just calling it like I see it and what I see is I'll catch more hogs in two years then you do in a decade. Your the one that I posted this thread for glad you came to visit and not put a number on it. Bc this was the point I was looking for. I simply state what i catch just like the others and yet I'm the chest beater bc I caught the most? That's not the point I was making I guess the point I'm making to any of the readers is watch who you take advice from bc they probably don't catch anything. My post came off as arrogant bc i just came out and asked ok guys lets here the numbers instead of reading 10 pages how my new finder holder is so awesome and can't smell a dang biscuit Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 12, 2015, 07:43:33 pm Oconee I will some what agree with what you said but just different style of dog that dog that got three was on the same track just pulled off on something hotter or something the hog ran them thru. Is she as good as the other two probly not but she can and will find her own pig and has found over the other two on different hunts so in her own right she gets it done. I know you like your dogs to run em a long distance I don't prefer that but I like to have a dog that gives you that option. What I was getting at is number of hogs don't matter as much as the quality of work and I know you will agree with that my friend
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on October 12, 2015, 07:53:12 pm The way I went about the thread is how many hogs do you actually catch. I don't think I have the best I know of better but if I'm catching 250 a year and think my dogs are average is makes me wonder why somebody thinks that have some sho enough hog dogs and don't catch a slab of bacon and two pork chops all year long is the first two give their advice. Just like you came to comment but you want put a number on it... It's not a pissing contest and if you think it is I'm sorry. I was just looking at it as I don't need advice from someone who doesn't even catch hogs.. I mean look at some of this threads on here. Like breeding to coyotes and junk like be for real You kept sighting the views on your thread and lack of posts as justification that most people suck on here. I read your first post and was gonna comment on your question but when I read the rest of the BS that you followed it up with on your following posts, i didn't feel like I needed to endulge you. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: oconee on October 12, 2015, 07:54:16 pm Judge I don't like my dogs to run hogs a long ways but they need to be able to if need be. By the way that dog didn't "get pulled off on something hotter." I will tell you what she done if you can take it?
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 12, 2015, 07:54:49 pm The thread probably wouldn't of got off track if people could of just answered the question instead of some of the more regular posters whining about how what does numbers have to do with anything and how do you know I have chit eaters. I figured people would just post numbers not freak out and get their feelings hurt. It was a simple question how many hogs do you catch a year. I was just looking for numbers not sad stories about people have shi77y places to hunt
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: oconee on October 12, 2015, 07:56:06 pm JUST TELL.US HOW MANY YOU CATCH BLACK STREAK!!! Man, the suspension is killing me.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 12, 2015, 07:59:04 pm Lmao
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 12, 2015, 08:02:14 pm Oconee what you say has no bearing on what happened or what you think happened. I know exactly what you are going to say. You always try to find away to be superior or to know everything lol. I know this with most certainty you are one hell of a smart ass
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: oconee on October 12, 2015, 08:04:56 pm Didn't figure you could take it. Ha ha ha. Being honest with ourselves is vitally important to us moving forward. Good luck Judge.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 12, 2015, 08:10:05 pm Oh I can take it bubba say what ever you like it won't change any of my thoughts just as any thing I say won't change you lol. But thanks for the good luck comment maybe I was to harsh and it brought a speckle of kindness out lol
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on October 12, 2015, 08:17:20 pm I will answer your question Judge. If the dog that bayed the 3 closer hogs couldn't have bayed the hog the others bayed then he's not in their class IMO because it stands to reason they could've bayed the 3 hogs themselves if they hadn't gotten unlucky and getting on the runner. JMO That's one way to see it but who's to say that those two dogs that wound up miles away didn't start that pig miles sooner but stayed with it till they got it bayed up. If those dogs quit that pig and bayed one that give them less of a run for their money, you saying you would like that better? You want a dog that would quit a hard hog to shut down for an easier one? Is that a better dog? Unless you can actually analyze what really happened correctly, you just making stabs at assumptions and basing opinion and analysis of a dog off false interpretation. Lots of things happen for reasons we are not concious of. Untill you can understand what's really REALLY happening, you can't make an accurate analysis. That piece of crap dog that past them other 3pigs up might not be such a piece of crapTitle: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 12, 2015, 08:21:07 pm (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/12/38cfacd1a7e7c152b2a01306cf46ffe3.jpg)
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on October 12, 2015, 08:22:15 pm I will answer your question Judge. If the dog that bayed the 3 closer hogs couldn't have bayed the hog the others bayed then he's not in their class IMO because it stands to reason they could've bayed the 3 hogs themselves if they hadn't gotten unlucky and getting on the runner. JMO That's one way to see it but who's to say that those two dogs that wound up miles away didn't start that pig miles sooner but stayed with it till they got it bayed up. If those dogs quit that pig and bayed one that give them less of a run for their money, you saying you would like that better? You want a dog that would quit a hard hog to shut down for an easier one? Is that a better dog? Unless you can actually analyze what really happened correctly, you just making stabs at assumptions and basing opinion and analysis of a dog off false interpretation. Lots of things happen for reasons we are not concious of. Untill you can understand what's really REALLY happening, you can't make an accurate analysis. That piece of crap dog that past them other 3pigs up might not be such a piece of crap. Sorry, miss read the post. My response doesn't fit what i replied to. Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Bo Pugh on October 12, 2015, 08:36:52 pm I don't go hunting to hangout with buddy's or play in the mud or socialize or whatever, I go to see dogs work that's it. I'm not talking about riding around a field and seeing a hog and turning a bulldog on it and catching it and taking pics and calling that a hog dog. However you hunt, dogs that hunt around looking up and down at you wondering which way to go or even baying for a hour or so or running a hog a mile or so and then come trotting back ready to get after the next one is not a hog dog Their a dime a dozen no matter how you hunt. I like dogs that do things that the average dogs can't do it doesn't matter to me who has them if it's me or the man across the road. I like to see the best. i think putting a dog on hogs makes them if it's in the right ways. It's a man close to me has a great place to hunt but he don't have a dog that will take a track he just rides lets dogs run in front and hog cross the road boom it's caught if the hog can make it about 800 yards it's safe cause their coming back. That don't make hog dogs. I got a dog named Ben when he was 8 months old I seen he was different he was running 4+ hour races and leading some of them so I started hunting him by himself a lot. It was several hogs be couldn't find but it was several he figured out and all on his own. That's why I hunt is for dogs like this . He just turned 2 September and my buddy had him most of the summer and just brought him back the other day. And told me all you have to do now is let him get out of the box and he will take you hunting. I'm not bragging on the dog by any means but to me that's what's it's about is dogs that's impressive and better than the average mutt. but he's not the kind of dog you can walk behind or with and keep up regardless of if your in Texas or alabama. if a dog can't make a hog it ain't a hog dog it's just a dog you use to catch hogs with is the way I see it.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: oconee on October 12, 2015, 08:38:05 pm Black sheep your rambling has me scratching my head but if your saying a dog that quits a hog race and finds another hog that doesn't run and bays it up is a hog dog you nuts. By the way how many hogs do you catch a year???
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Bo Pugh on October 12, 2015, 08:42:02 pm a dog that quits a hog and bays one on the way back is not a hog dog it's a Russian socket
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 12, 2015, 08:44:33 pm Out of all the views 13 people have admitted to how many hogs they catch a year. Thanks for the ones who posted in going to assume the rest dog catch more than a handful...
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on October 12, 2015, 09:19:34 pm Black sheep your rambling has me scratching my head but if your saying a dog that quits a hog race and finds another hog that doesn't run and bays it up is a hog dog you nuts. By the way how many hogs do you catch a year??? That's not what I said. I read the thing wrong and replied to what I missread. You miss read what I wrote too lol Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 12, 2015, 09:22:44 pm I'll guess 7
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on October 12, 2015, 11:06:37 pm I don't go hunting to hangout with buddy's or play in the mud or socialize or whatever, I go to see dogs work that's it. I'm not talking about riding around a field and seeing a hog and turning a bulldog on it and catching it and taking pics and calling that a hog dog. However you hunt, dogs that hunt around looking up and down at you wondering which way to go or even baying for a hour or so or running a hog a mile or so and then come trotting back ready to get after the next one is not a hog dog Their a dime a dozen no matter how you hunt. I like dogs that do things that the average dogs can't do it doesn't matter to me who has them if it's me or the man across the road. I like to see the best. i think putting a dog on hogs makes them if it's in the right ways. It's a man close to me has a great place to hunt but he don't have a dog that will take a track he just rides lets dogs run in front and hog cross the road boom it's caught if the hog can make it about 800 yards it's safe cause their coming back. That don't make hog dogs. I got a dog named Ben when he was 8 months old I seen he was different he was running 4+ hour races and leading some of them so I started hunting him by himself a lot. It was several hogs be couldn't find but it was several he figured out and all on his own. That's why I hunt is for dogs like this . He just turned 2 September and my buddy had him most of the summer and just brought him back the other day. And told me all you have to do now is let him get out of the box and he will take you hunting. I'm not bragging on the dog by any means but to me that's what's it's about is dogs that's impressive and better than the average mutt. but he's not the kind of dog you can walk behind or with and keep up regardless of if your in Texas or alabama. if a dog can't make a hog it ain't a hog dog it's just a dog you use to catch hogs with is the way I see it. Sound to me you just described general dim a dozen hog dogs. You like a dog that can't stop a hog, you like dogs that can't catch pigs. In short you are fond of a long drawn put inefficient process that requires the use of two teams of dogs to catch 1 pig. Same general dim a dozen BS i said others have, your just more proud of yours because they tend to draw it out longer than most everyone else's and you look at it as good dog work and think yours are special above most others. I like to see good dog work myself but on a scale much different and much much more efficient than you described. 1 dog that finds its own pig, runs it down at a speed that makes your jaw drop, and then catches and controls the pig with ease without getting roughed up. That to me is a dog that is not a dime a dozen. Your great dog you refer to is a bay dog. Poor little fellow only has half the an average finder holder does. And you dare say you have a pig dog and act as if it's special when them old worthless bulldogs got to be sent in to finish what your prized dog could not. What I'm getting at is if you start talking biased crap and get all high and mighty on how great of dogs you have, better look over your shoulder what you neighbor has or his neighbor has. You might find someone has you beat when you start implying you have what the definition of a hog dog is and the standard by which all should be measured against . Paint with a broad brush and you garner a lot of attention . I'm not saying my dogs are badass, but using your description of a dog that can only do half the job while mine do it all, I think you had better reevaluate what you call a hog dog since u are touting it Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 12, 2015, 11:19:06 pm Sounds to me like you just pull up to a field find a hog in the field an turn a catch dog out and give them the name of a finder holder. Hell I can do that with a darn Bulldog from the pound. You ain't got nothing...
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Slim9797 on October 12, 2015, 11:46:48 pm Just got going this year in May and have caught one 40 lb shoat that my lead dog winded from about 200 yards right before a tornado touched down. My best dog left out after that shoat and bayed another hog but I had to leave her bayed because the weather went to chit(tornado touched down 5 miles from where we caught not 20 minutes after we caught) I WALK hunt. Since we caught that one I had one hunt where we bayed hogs. My mutts bayed up 4 times and couldn't hold the hog bayed before the catch dog got there.(my best dog so I call her is a suicidal rough lacy dog who gets hogs running) We hunt the one ranch we have permission on about once every month and it has a good amount of hogs but a lot of activity besides us( lumber jacks and cowboys working cattle that push the hogs out) I have fun behind my dogs and I don't mind feeding them. I call them hog dogs because that is what they hunt, regardless of how good they are! They all know what a hog is and will run a hog before they run trash. I enjoy following my hogs around and knowing all but one is less than 14 months old I don't get angry I haven't caught more. I've been offered money to come help ranches with a hog problem out but have declined because my dogs aren't any where near good enough to charge money to bring somewhere. But again I have fun and enjoy myself when I'm in the woods with them. They are my best friends and I enjoy them.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Shotgun wg on October 12, 2015, 11:49:11 pm Hanson u posed the question which dog is better the dog that is 2yr old been on 50 pigs or the 10 month old that's been on 100? That answer depends on population. In an area with an over abundance of hogs that 10 month old could fall out the truck on a hog. While that 2 yr old could be in an area that sightings are rare but possible. It is my opinion a man can learn far more about the ability and hunt in a dog in an area with no sign at all. Any dog can bark at a pig and most will if there is one behind every other tree. I have hit an area or 2 with high numbers over the years. I had places if I couldn't get on a hog in 30 min I got agitated. After a few years and several methods we got to the point I spent most of a summer trying to track down 3 hogs on 10k acres. We got 1 of them but it took a lot of dry runs to get it.
In the end if u want to know what kinda dogs u got go to a place with absolutely no sign and u know has lil to no pop and see how they act. Shotgun Arkansas Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: oconee on October 13, 2015, 12:23:26 am Black sheep this "finder holder" load of crap is the craziest thing I've ever had forced on me. What breed are these dogs? How good of noses do they have? How do you hunt, walk, road, rig, etc? How in the hell did you ever come up with such an awesome name? "Finder holder" wow I have to get me some of these, tell me more, tell me more!!
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: l.h.cracker on October 13, 2015, 06:45:04 am Oconee and Hanson you two are like a couple of school yard bullies and if someone dares to post something intelligent about the diversities of hog dogs and hunting tachtics they are met with a baraje of banter and torment.A couple of yapping ass sh@t eaters that are just to fast to give a good swift kick.
Who the Hell made you two the authorities on what determines the make up of a hog dog and a hog hunter. If you go to the woods with dogs and catch a hog with them then that's pretty much the only requirement to call yourself a hog dogger.I know people who catch as many hogs aa you do in ayear Hanson in a couple months time and like Blackstreak said they just won't post on here because of people like you and they've been doing it forever have a plethora of knowledge that goes untapped because they've got no use for the headache. Blackstreak catches hogs big nasty hogs and in a manner that has been used for decades in Australia. The finder holders he owns and speaks so highly of are pig dogs no doubt that have been proven for Many generations by men who hunt for a living.The ruff catching dogs were the very first hog dogs and were softened up through breeding to suit people like you Oconee. It's funny how you are poking fun at Blackstreak about numbers and you're at the bottom of the totem pole.As for you Hanson there are alot of people who catch alot more than you I promise it's all relative to the spots you have to hunt.My places make us work our butts off for a hog but we still get it done walking and at years end probably ain't to far off your number but that don't mean sh@t to me as long as my dogs are performing at the level that I believe they should be then that's what matters.Period. Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on October 13, 2015, 07:50:45 am [quote r=hansonw lin=topic=91942.msg534831#msg534831 date=1444709946]
Sounds to me like you just pull up to a field find a hog in the fithemselvesrn a catch dog out and give them the name of a finder holder. Hell I can do that with a darn Bulldog from the pound. You ain't got nothing... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk [/quote] That's how I start pups but that ain't how i hunt them after they are mature enough to handle themselves on big boars that they find for themselves. My dogs hunt the woods and thickets same as everyone else's on here. Catching pigs in fields is fun stuff to watch. To see a dog with about the speed of a grey hound fly across open ground and smoke it's prey down is awsome to watch. Just because my dogs can do that and yours wouldn't do anything but run them out of the field and chase them to where the pig chooses to stop and fight doesn't mean you have better dogs than me lol. The dogs I run are heck of a lot more versatile than yours sounds to me because you would have to go to the pound to get something that would stand a chance to catch one in a field. Problem with that theory is, your pound bulldogs you get aren't much faster than a pig is, if any faster at all. That means they still chase the pigs out of the field and catch them where the pig chooses to stop and fight. I catch pigs on my dogs terms not the pigs terms. Be it in the woods or fields. Your just pissy because I can catch pigs in open ground and my way of hunting is catching pigs on my dogs terms not the pigs terms. My dogs probably catch more pigs in the woods than your dogs do truth be know . Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on October 13, 2015, 08:01:58 am Black sheep this "finder holder" load of crap is the craziest thing I've ever had forced on me. What breed are these dogs? How good of noses do they have? How do you hunt, walk, road, rig, etc? How in the hell did you ever come up with such an awesome name? "Finder holder" wow I have to get me some of these, tell me more, tell me more!! Australians have been running and catching pigs with dogs like this for decades. Look up Ned Makim and his dogs. Mine are similar to his and the hunt style is the same. Reason i point you to him, is there is a lot of info scattered around the net that he as wrote. He was even on here at one time but hmmm, wonder why he didn't stay. Anyway he has lots of information on his dogs and articulates things very well. Very very good dogman. You can learn more about my style by researching him than I can articulate. Finder Holder is not an American term to describe how a dog works, it's an Australian term but so is the way I hunt pigs Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on October 13, 2015, 09:00:06 am I hope you guys and gals reading this thread don't read this as I'm hating on bay dogs and bulldogs. I am not talking down on them only the directing my comments about them to the couple guys bashing on my dogs and acting like they aren't real hog dogs. Sorry if I've offended anyone. I like all kinds of hog dogs. Curs, hounds, bulldogs, long dogs, and lurchers. I respect and appreciate all forms of hog dogging and have done it all except with hounds which to me are truly fascinating. I have come to run the kinda dogs i do because my heart lies with catch dogs such as pits and bulldogs. Just my own personal personality. Most people are drawn to the strike dog on a yard full of dogs but me, i go to the bull dogs and love on them. When i realized this coupled with how i wanted to approach hunting with dogs, i started seeking what i later come to learn was a finder holder and already existed. Problem was getting hands on them here in the US because these dogs were not a dime a dozen. Quite a rarity here in the US. Within 6 or 8 months of me actively wanting to change over to this kinda dog, i accidentally stumbled into the line of dogs i currently have. I got two female puppies and started from their. Do to my success with those two puppies at such a young age and my devotion to them, a couple more doors have opened up to me which allowed me to fully focuse on hunting with this style of dog. If you have ever watched any of the Bloom Brothers DVDs, you have seen this style of dog at work then. I'm very happy and proud of my dogs and my way of hunting with them and feel like I have the right to defend them and my style against the biased egotistical jerks on here that think their way is best and if you don't hunt like them or have dogs like them, then you ain't got hog dogs and you ain't a dog man. So in my defense of my style, I hope you all have not taken me as saying my way is best or my dogs as better than anyone else's on here. I love and respect all forms of hog dogging and am not talking down on any form, just to the guys that are talking down upon me and my dogs or my style is all. So sorry to all of you who are silent that may have read me wrong while i was standing up for them.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 13, 2015, 09:54:48 am Slim9797 you sound like my kind of fella
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 13, 2015, 10:01:00 am Looks like there are a few pro's and few joes lol. Every one is not going to agree no matter what the topic is I care less bout what any one thinks of me or my dogs. But make no mistake we get the job done every where I go and that's what matters to me and my boys and who ever hunts with us. I have talked to some very nice folks on this sight that have experience in this sport and other things as well. They way I look at is if you get frustrated and upset you should do something else.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Slim9797 on October 13, 2015, 10:15:45 am Some of the stuff a few of you have said makes me think the same of you as a guy around me who hunts and says "the best cross bred dogs won't ever hunt as good as the worst pure yella." He said this forever until he hunted behind a plott cur cross my buddy now owns.
Close minded people always sound ignorant when trying to justify close minded opinions. Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 13, 2015, 10:39:27 am I don't see what's so hard about answering a question. This was not about bay dog vs rough dogs or hell it wasn't even about Aussie style dogs. It wasn't about who could claim the most hogs. I simply just wanted to know how many hogs yall caught. That's it I don't give a chit about nothing else. Hell the first guy answered 20 and I told him that's pretty could only going to the woods 25 times. Then it got turned to whose chit is better. Black streak im sure it's pretty cool to watch one of your dogs run down a hog in an open field. We I have the opportunity when I'm hunting I like to see it done. And I'm sure yours do it so much better and quicker than mine I'm not arguing that seriously. I know plenty of people that catch 4-500 a year. What yall have to realize for the tenth time this was not about who gets the trophy for most hogs. Simply how many hogs. I'm not knocking anybody for walk hunting. Texas is a different terrain. I'm sure there are plenty of places there is no way to hunt but walk hunt. I just wanted to hear a number that's all. Then in turned into a bunch of people getting their feelings hurt bc they don't catch as many as the next guy hell that's fine I don't care. I am also here to say my dogs are avg. I have owned better . Not once have I said anything about them. Just like everybody probably assumes I have loose dogs wrong my chit is rough as a cob. This wasn't about dogs this wasn't about atvs helicopters or walking this was simply about how many hogs do you catch
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on October 13, 2015, 10:54:38 am Some of the stuff a few of you have said makes me think the same of you as a guy around me who hunts and says "the best cross bred dogs won't ever hunt as good as the worst pure yella." He said this forever until he hunted behind a plott cur cross my buddy now owns. Close minded people always sound ignorant when trying to justify close minded opinions. Very true usually. I say usually because often times close minded redirect is articulated well by some and so sounds good and is taken as it's truth. But once people have read a dew good rebuttles to well articulated bs, they tend to pick up on the bs themselves. That's how I was anyway. Wasn't till a person or two would call the biased bs for what it actually was did I really start seeing such things for what they really were. I tend to think these people really belive what they say but I don't think it should be allowed to go unchecked and passed off as the way it is. Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on October 13, 2015, 11:14:39 am Went out and got me a good hunting rig ! (http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag326/coondogo80/Mobile%20Uploads/images_zpsxmigoc08.jpeg) (http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/coondogo80/media/Mobile%20Uploads/images_zpsxmigoc08.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: l.h.cracker on October 13, 2015, 11:31:40 am Lol that's good stuff right there Georgia
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on October 13, 2015, 11:38:08 am I don't see what's so hard about answering a question. This was not about bay dog vs rough dogs or hell it wasn't even about Aussie style dogs. It wasn't about who could claim the most hogs. I simply just wanted to know how many hogs yall caught. That's it I don't give a chit about nothing else. Hell the first guy answered 20 and I told him that's pretty could only going to the woods 25 times. Then it got turned to whose chit is better. Black streak im sure it's pretty cool to watch one of your dogs run down a hog in an open field. We I have the opportunity when I'm hunting I like to see it done. And I'm sure yours do it so much better and quicker than mine I'm not arguing that seriously. I know plenty of people that catch 4-500 a year. What yall have to realize for the tenth time this was not about who gets the trophy for most hogs. Simply how many hogs. I'm not knocking anybody for walk hunting. Texas is a different terrain. I'm sure there are plenty of places there is no way to hunt but walk hunt. I just wanted to hear a number that's all. Then in turned into a bunch of people getting their feelings hurt bc they don't catch as many as the next guy hell that's fine I don't care. I am also here to say my dogs are avg. I have owned better . Not once have I said anything about them. Just like everybody probably assumes I have loose dogs wrong my chit is rough as a cob. This wasn't about dogs this wasn't about atvs helicopters or walking this was simply about how many hogs do you catch Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yeah hansonw your right, you weren't talking crap really, you just honestly wanted #s I believe. It was Bo Pough and Oconee that started talking so much crap about people who walk and the caliber of their dogs they have because they can walk hunt with their dogs and trying to make out like all my dogs do is catch pigs off fields and try to undermine the finder holder dogs and sighting what were hog dogs and what weren't. It was that kinda bs that got called out by judge, cracker, and myself along with a few others. Sorry your thread turned into what it did. The constant sighting of views vs ccomments and the other remark about the people that frequently talk on here that have yet to give out their number on your thread was not helpful in the direction your thread took. You get people spewing chit on any thread like Po Bough and Oconee and maybe on or two others did on here, I believe they should be called out on it. Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on October 13, 2015, 11:43:56 am I hope the guys and gals of tomorrow that are starting out now and see this forum as of great interest and insight, see the guys such as this thread starter and s$!t starter for the glory hound wanna be spotlight craving biased fool that he is and others like him are and realize it it because of people like them that keep good people silent and off this forum. Thankfully we still have many people on here that are worth looking up to but I see so many of them going silent. Glory hound and chit starter? No I'm just calling it like I see it and what I see is I'll catch more hogs in two years then you do in a decade. Your the one that I posted this thread for glad you came to visit and not put a number on it. Bc this was the point I was looking for. I simply state what i catch just like the others and yet I'm the chest beater bc I caught the most? That's not the point I was making I guess the point I'm making to any of the readers is watch who you take advice from bc they probably don't catch anything. My post came off as arrogant bc i just came out and asked ok guys lets here the numbers instead of reading 10 pages how my new finder holder is so awesome and can't smell a dang biscuit Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Here is a pretty good example by you yourself as to why this thread took on a negative light in the beginning. Your biased lol Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: ED BARNES on October 13, 2015, 12:00:55 pm I am all for discussion that pushes people to think... no good will come from all the chest beating. Numbers? I don't know numbers, never cared to tally. I don't care to compete with other hunters, the competition is between my brain, dogs and hogs. Hog hunting is challenging enough without dealing with all the tough guys. So NO, i wont throw out a number, but i will keep on hunting and working dogs despite what is posted on the internet.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Bo Pugh on October 13, 2015, 12:10:55 pm im not spewing chit black streak. i know i dont feed chit eaters and call them hog dogs. you say the kind of dogs i hunt are a dime a dozen go to the dog trade now and look at the two finished dogs for sale for 3500 a piece. i dont know anyone that would give 3500 for a lifetime supply of dogs to run a hog in a field then come back after a litte piece of running, but they will give 3500 for two that will hunt and stick with a hog. you said go look up some man from austraila hes a dog man cause he wrote a bunch of stuff on finders holders. hell sean kelley wrote a hog doggers bible and im sure if you aint ever heard of him someone can tell you how much of a dog man he is just because someone can write a bunch of stuff and use some good grammer dont mean much when it comes to dogs. . it took me along time to get the dogs i got now almost 10 years cause i woudnt settle for just a dog and call it a hog dog. i culled alot of dogs that most people could of took anywhere and caught a hog or two with. im still sticking to my original statment about the caliber dogs that people that walk hunt usually feed and i do not want to own any of them and im sure if your walk hunting you dont want to own any of mine either.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on October 13, 2015, 12:55:00 pm I am all for discussion that pushes people to think... no good will come from all the chest beating. Numbers? I don't know numbers, never cared to tally. I don't care to compete with other hunters, the competition is between my brain, dogs and hogs. Hog hunting is challenging enough without dealing with all the tough guys. So NO, i wont throw out a number, but i will keep on hunting and working dogs despite what is posted on the internet. Good for you man! I like your style and agree with your way of hog dogging. Who cares about numbers and judging this guy against that guy based on their numbers. You sound like you really get enjoyment out of hog dogging for the same reasons me and a lot of others do. When i first went hog dogging I was with an egotistical guy who ruined it for me. He had good dogs, just his short fuse during adversity turned me off for a long time. Another guy with your attitude was how I took a second look at hog dogging and took a liking to it. I bet you are a lot of fun to hunt with. Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on October 13, 2015, 01:50:57 pm im not spewing chit black streak. i know i dont feed chit eaters and call them hog dogs. you say the kind of dogs i hunt are a dime a dozen go to the dog trade now and look at the two finished dogs for sale for 3500 a piece. i dont know anyone that would give 3500 for a lifetime supply of dogs to run a hog in a field then come back after a litte piece of running, but they will give 3500 for two that will hunt and stick with a hog. you said go look up some man from austraila hes a dog man cause he wrote a bunch of stuff on finders holders. hell sean kelley wrote a hog doggers bible and im sure if you aint ever heard of him someone can tell you how much of a dog man he is just because someone can write a bunch of stuff and use some good grammer dont mean much when it comes to dogs. . it took me along time to get the dogs i got now almost 10 years cause i woudnt settle for just a dog and call it a hog dog. i culled alot of dogs that most people could of took anywhere and caught a hog or two with. im still sticking to my original statment about the caliber dogs that people that walk hunt usually feed and i do not want to own any of them and im sure if your walk hunting you dont want to own any of mine either. I refer ed to Ned Makim because you were asking about my dogs. Not because he wrote a book. But he does knowthis astyle of hunting and the dogs very well. The Sean guy you mention is probably a great dog man too. Never read his book and don't know him. I don't doubt you you have good dogs but when you start saying they are better than everyone else's and it's just a dog that has a specific niche in the group of dogs it takes you to find and catch a hog, is where I say that dog your so high on is just a dime a dozen. Most every body on here has a strike dog / bay dog. You get you a dog that you can take to the pasture by itself and find and catch hogs with, then you won't have a dog that most others on here do but untill then your dog needs other dogs in order for you to take possession of a pig. Them dogs are a dime a dozen here. Don't know what your getting at with the money value of a dog. I ain't never paid more than $ 400 for any dog I ever have or had and only 1 dog had ever seen a pig before it came to my yard. I'm not interested in selling dogs or buying them. Here is what I think about selling dogs, I put the stag type pups i had for sale for $100. I could have gotten more I'm sure and made money off them beause within days they were all gone but that's not where my interest lies. I just enjoy hog dogging and enjoy good dogs and like like minded people no matter what kinda dogs they have. If you think your dog needs to be sold for thousands of dollars then great but I aint like that. Just because the dogs you speak of have a high price tag on them don't make them better than my dogs or your dogs and it don't mean them dogs ain't a dime a dozen to me because I doubt very highly I could take that high dollar dog and go find and catch pigs without a $100 bulldog their to be the closer lol. You see that high dollar dog as a HOG DOG, i see it as half a hog dog which are a dime a dozen. Bo Pough in short what I'm saying is you ain't gotta hog dog, you got half ass dogs no matter what the price you think they are worth or how many you have culled and how much better you think your dogs are than. You can't catch chit without the assistance of a second dog can you. My dogs here in the US are no where near as common as your dogs. Mine however are a dime a dozen in Australia. No big deal. Who cares how rare or common a dog type is or hunting style is but when you want to tell others how great your dogs are because you have culled through so many and say others don't have real hog dogs because they aren't as good as yours, then ihave to beg the question, can just one of your dogs you call a HOG DOG put a decent pig in your hand like so many others have on this sight like, TazD, Cracker, Judge, me, and all the other guys that have dogs that can find and catch their own pigs? Didn't think so! You go ahead and sell your high dollar chit that takes a pound bulldog to finish the job your high dollar HOG DOG can't. Also I have no reason to doubt you that I couldn't walk behind your dogs because sounds like they can't stop chit from running off. One of these days you will finally cull through enough dogs you will finally get you some that will allow you to walk hunt. Untill then you better keep your buggy tuned up so you can keep up with them dogs you chase them pigs around with. Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: oconee on October 13, 2015, 04:43:03 pm Black sheep I don't know where you hunt or what kind of hogs you catch with ONE dog but what I consider a good boar will need a couple dogs on him. If your catching swine with one dog I'd call them pigs most likely. Could you post a video or something? You've about got me talked into culling out and getting me some "finder grabbers" I just need a little evidence that these dogs can do what you say they can do. Thank you
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Bo Pugh on October 13, 2015, 04:54:33 pm "finders holders" get it right!!!!! popo
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: oconee on October 13, 2015, 05:06:15 pm Oh yea "finder holders" my bad. Hey Black creep while you uploading them videos could you tell us how long these dogs will run a hog if they get after a runnin sucker. I like a little bottom and by the way do you think they can take a 15 minute old track or do I have to show them every hog? Just wanting to get a few more details, I'm heading to town tomorrow for a box of .22 bullets. Do you have any pups available?
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Pwilson_10 on October 13, 2015, 05:55:15 pm OCONEE ur so mean don't shoot them bud them finder holders won't last up there were ur at and I would hate for ur friends to laugh at u when u show up with them finder holders
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on October 13, 2015, 07:49:53 pm Black sheep I don't know where you hunt or what kind of hogs you catch with ONE dog but what I consider a good boar will need a couple dogs on him. If your catching swine with one dog I'd call them pigs most likely. Could you post a video or something? You've about got me talked into culling out and getting me some "finder grabbers" I just need a little evidence that these dogs can do what you say they can do. Thank you I can't post ppics on this forum do to the formate this forum requires to down load them to it. I've done had to have Peel post a picture of a big black and white boar i caught. Used two dogs for it. You didn't see that pig? I don't deliberately run just one dog, i run two but if there is more than one pig, I'm likely to have two pigs caught. And no need in culling your dogs, you don't need to be like me, just don't claim you have the best dogs on the forum because there are people here that have dogs that can do by themselves what it takes multiple dogs of yours to do. I haven't ever got on a soap box and claimed my dogs are the best or my way is best. I just put you egotistical guys in check and tell you your dogs can't do but half what others guys on here can. I understand you are proud of your dogs but stay humble man. For what it's worth I was witness last month to 1 dog finding and holding a 446# boar. Made it look like child's play. Was the dad to my young dogs. Want to call me out of that? I dare ya lmao Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on October 13, 2015, 08:22:49 pm er holders" my bad. Hey Black creep while you uploading them videos could you tell us how long these dogs will run a hog if they get after a runnin sucker. I like a little bottom and by the way do you think they can take a 15 minute old track or do I have to show them every hog? Just wanting to get a few more details, I'm headed to town tomorrow for a box of .22 bullets. Do you have any pups available? I've explained these dogs to you before Oconee and on count of your learning deficiency I'll tell you again. Picture them as a 40 mph pit bull that has the hunts like a cur. Reason i run these dogs is to prevent pigs from running. Picture this, your a beautiful look boar hog laying your bed of leaves. All the sudden you hear something and stand up to see whats comming and BAM you got a helaciousesly athletic dog controlling you by the ear. Or if you turn to run in time to be able to run, it's pointless and you turn to sucker punch your pursuer because out running it ain't an option. Worst thing a pig can do is try to run and not stand to fight because they just give that ear up. Thick brush that only a pig can zip through is their only chance at excape. However normally they are instantly caught before they realize the threat and run in it if they are already in it and second if they aren't in in but are just close to it, close and close enough for them cause they get smoked down before they can get to it, if for some reason they realized the threat the dogs posed to them shortly before the dogs get to them. Once the pigs move and swap the dogs over from scent to sight, the dogs hit speeds of which your dogs don't have. You get now why I don't have a problem with pigs running? As for bottom, well got to have a runner to see the bottom lol. They have been bred for their endurance though and don't have much trouble holding for a while. In large part do to their build and athletsism and how well they can control a hog. Second, one that doesn't have much endurance is a cull. You get it now? Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: oconee on October 13, 2015, 08:46:36 pm Man that sounds awesome! Hogs don't have a prayer! I'll have to admit Black freak you got my excited about making this change. Take my money and tell me where I come to pick up these "fender benders" up at. I'm like a kid on Christmas mourning! I think I might quit my job and just catch and sell hogs when I get my pack of "flamin rappers" going. Lets see.......... if I hunt 5 days a week and strike hogs 4 out of 5 hunts I can possibly catch $400-$600 worth of hogs a week because nothing will get away. I'm gonna need a couple females black hawk, my buddies will see my success and I'll be able to sell pups as fast as I can raise them. Huh, combine pup sells with my hog sells and I may be able to live out my dream of starting my own business. Male strippers make a load of cash and I know I have the body for it and have been wanting to open my own male strip club for years. Wow this is exciting!! I never thought I could get this up and running but with the help of Blue Stomper and his "flagger hangers" I'll be shaking my sexy butt in no time. I already have several thongs picked out and I bet the ladies will pour in the first night I open the doors. Wow, just think I'm gonna acheive all this success because Black jacker showed me the light and cut me in on his "grinder rounders" I'll PM you for the pay and pick-up info on my new pack. Thanks again Black momma!
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 13, 2015, 09:08:55 pm Wow
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on October 13, 2015, 09:24:05 pm Man that sounds awesome! Hogs don't have a prayer! I'll have to admit Black freak you got my excited about making this change. Take my money and tell me where I come to pick up these "fender benders" up at. I'm like a kid on Christmas mourning! I think I might quit my job and just catch and sell hogs when I get my pack of "flamin rappers" going. Lets see.......... if I hunt 5 days a week and strike hogs 4 out of 5 hunts I can possibly catch $400-$600 worth of hogs a week because nothing will get away. I'm gonna need a couple females black hawk, my buddies will see my success and I'll be able to sell pups as fast as I can raise them. Huh, combine pup sells with my hog sells and I may be able to live out my dream of starting my own business. Male strippers make a load of cash and I know I have the body for it and have been wanting to open my own male strip club for years. Wow this is exciting!! I never thought I could get this up and running but with the help of Blue Stomper and his "flagger hangers" I'll be shaking my sexy butt in no time. I already have several thongs picked out and I bet the ladies will pour in the first night I open the doors. Wow, just think I'm gonna acheive all this success because Black jacker showed me the light and cut me in on his "grinder rounders" I'll PM you for the pay and pick-up info on my new pack. Thanks again Black momma! Lol that was pretty funny! But on to a serious note, the guy whom I got my pups from that I started with does make his living off catching hogs with these dogs. He been doing it for I'm assuming close to a couple decades now. The line of dogs i run are his and I work with him in progressing this line of dogs forward by breeding the best to the best. These dogs will only be given to like minded people. Yeah you read right, I said GIVEN not sold to like minded people. I dont really mean any disrespect when I tell you that I won't be intentionally giving you any dogs of this line. Breeding are not done to sell pups, only to progress the line forward. Plus I won't be giving his line of dogs away to every Tom, Dick, and Harry and jeprodize my friendship with him. I have more respect for what he allowed me to be apart of than that. I'm very certain you don't realize it, but the more you have me talk about my dogs, the more people contact me and want to know more about them and want to use them, thus the farther down the proverbial list you go in your goal to obtain one lol. In all truths though this line of dogs isn't bred for selling puppies, it's so that the line is bettered and so like minded people can enjoy hunting with them if this style of hog dogging is how they want to hunt. Ain't no half azzing with these dogs or you take away thier edge and what makes them so successful. You either all in and hunt strictly these dogs when you hunt them or they aint for you. If you can't do that then you essentially nullifie the reason for having them and their effectiveness. If you can't follow what I'm saying, then these type hunting dogs are not for you because you will render them ineffective or get them killed. Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: oconee on October 13, 2015, 09:27:48 pm Black Streak, I AM TRULY CRUSHED!!!
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on October 13, 2015, 09:40:23 pm Black Streak, I AM TRULY CRUSHED!!! Lol. I figured you would be. Hopefully I'll catch you again on the next good interesting thread. Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Briar on October 14, 2015, 12:36:40 am What a bunch of damned blowhards. I joined here to learn a thing or two I didn't know, but I sure enough know a 2 bit bully when I see one. You guys get extra froggy when its two or three of you around.
Oconee, (or should I make fun of your name, maybe Oblowme?) I hope you're not near so miserable in real life as you seem online. I like to think you're a decent guy, but damn act like it. If you don't agree with somebody, just post your opinion don't spend page after page trying to start a fight about the thing, making fun of them and twisting what they wrote into something a 5 year old could tell you wasn't what the other guy was saying. Bo Pugh you're just as bad, You ought to be ashamed acting like a 10 year old school yard bully. I bet you do know a lot about dogs, and probably run some good ones. Talk about what you know instead of bashing everybody else. I don't know one of you off this forum, I got no buddies I'm backing up. I just came here because there is a lot to be learned, but dang if it is just childish arguing back and forth whats the point of anybody hanging around, whether its somebody like me that don't know the first thing or an old hand that really has something to add ? Hanson you aint much better. Asking how many hogs is one thing, turning it into a pissin contest is something different. I'm going to start a thread called "How long is Yours?" and if you don't post I know it's because you aint got no swing lol. All this waving it in everybodys face thats going on here, how else am I gonna know who to listen to if I don't know who has got the biggest ??? Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: oconee on October 14, 2015, 01:19:48 am Well its nice to meet you Mr. Briar! And thank you for telling us how to act on a PUBLIC MESSAGE BOARD!! First and foremost you can kiss my ass and I don't give a damn what you think. If you want the read this BS and keep your mouth shut then do it! I'm not gonna sit here and listen to some clown feed me a line of crap that I know is ridiculous. I find it very insulting to be expected to believe the crap some of these guys post on here. Do you want to know who has there feelings hurt by me? People who try to feed me a line of BS. I personally couldn't live with myself if someone told me the sky was orange and I didn't have the balls to say "no, its blue." If any of you guys are looking for love and affection maybe ya'll should stand up on your own two feet and love yourself because I'm gonna stand up for what I believe is right and I won't wavier to accomodate some mental migits feelings. Mental toughness is elusive this day and age and its obvious by the way this liberal country we live in is bending over to kiss every cry baby's ass. Tell you what get some selfconfidence and I probably won't bother you so bad!
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Mike on October 14, 2015, 05:33:28 am Fellas, if y'all want to have a discussion, debate, argument or whatever... then get after it. But the name calling, trash talking and acting like a bunch of kids is gonna end now... or we'll be a few members short.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 14, 2015, 09:41:39 am Numbers only say you have a good spot very average dogs will do good at a place that's over run with hogs
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: oconee on October 14, 2015, 01:44:13 pm Numbers only say you have a good spot very average dogs will do good at a place that's over run with hogs Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Exactly the way I see it myself. Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Bo Pugh on October 14, 2015, 04:55:03 pm Man that sounds awesome! Hogs don't have a prayer! I'll have to admit Black freak you got my excited about making this change. Take my money and tell me where I come to pick up these "fender benders" up at. I'm like a kid on Christmas mourning! I think I might quit my job and just catch and sell hogs when I get my pack of "flamin rappers" going. Lets see.......... if I hunt 5 days a week and strike hogs 4 out of 5 hunts I can possibly catch $400-$600 worth of hogs a week because nothing will get away. I'm gonna need a couple females black hawk, my buddies will see my success and I'll be able to sell pups as fast as I can raise them. Huh, combine pup sells with my hog sells and I may be able to live out my dream of starting my own business. Male strippers make a load of cash and I know I have the body for it and have been wanting to open my own male strip club for years. Wow this is exciting!! I never thought I could get this up and running but with the help of Blue Stomper and his "flagger hangers" I'll be shaking my sexy butt in no time. I already have several thongs picked out and I bet the ladies will pour in the first night I open the doors. Wow, just think I'm gonna acheive all this success because Black jacker showed me the light and cut me in on his "grinder rounders" I'll PM you for the pay and pick-up info on my new pack. Thanks again Black momma! Lol that was pretty funny! But on to a serious note, the guy whom I got my pups from that I started with does make his living off catching hogs with these dogs. He been doing it for I'm assuming close to a couple decades now. The line of dogs i run are his and I work with him in progressing this line of dogs forward by breeding the best to the best. These dogs will only be given to like minded people. Yeah you read right, I said GIVEN not sold to like minded people. I dont really mean any disrespect when I tell you that I won't be intentionally giving you any dogs of this line. Breeding are not done to sell pups, only to progress the line forward. Plus I won't be giving his line of dogs away to every Tom, Dick, and Harry and jeprodize my friendship with him. I have more respect for what he allowed me to be apart of than that. I'm very certain you don't realize it, but the more you have me talk about my dogs, the more people contact me and want to know more about them and want to use them, thus the farther down the proverbial list you go in your goal to obtain one lol. In all truths though this line of dogs isn't bred for selling puppies, it's so that the line is bettered and so like minded people can enjoy hunting with them if this style of hog dogging is how they want to hunt. Ain't no half azzing with these dogs or you take away thier edge and what makes them so successful. You either all in and hunt strictly these dogs when you hunt them or they aint for you. If you can't do that then you essentially nullifie the reason for having them and their effectiveness. If you can't follow what I'm saying, then these type hunting dogs are not for you because you will render them ineffective or get them killed. Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: jstankus on October 14, 2015, 06:32:02 pm New to the forum, been hunting for 3 years now, I hunt in North Florida swamps on the gulf coast. I started with cracker curs and now have added hounds. All my curs are gritty and will catch up to a 300lb hog at this point so no need for a bull dog. It's really thick and swampy where I hunt and in Dixie County and they run hounds like it's going out of style. We use to hunt WMA areas and thought we had great dogs, but got put in place once we started running in hound country at a private club. So now I run a mix of curs and hounds, we use to walk curs into thick sign but that wasn't real hog hunting and now we cast and do much better. I say we usually catch a hog or two a month, I just love hunting and being out in the woods. Nice to see what other weekend warriors are doing.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on October 14, 2015, 08:18:32 pm Man that sounds awesome! Hogs don't have a prayer! I'll have to admit Black freak you got my excited about making this change. Take my money and tell me where I come to pick up these "fender benders" up at. I'm like a kid on Christmas mourning! I think I might quit my job and just catch and sell hogs when I get my pack of "flamin rappers" going. Lets see.......... if I hunt 5 days a week and strike hogs 4 out of 5 hunts I can possibly catch $400-$600 worth of hogs a week because nothing will get away. I'm gonna need a couple females black hawk, my buddies will see my success and I'll be able to sell pups as fast as I can raise them. Huh, combine pup sells with my hog sells and I may be able to live out my dream of starting my own business. Male strippers make a load of cash and I know I have the body for it and have been wanting to open my own male strip club for years. Wow this is exciting!! I never thought I could get this up and running but with the help of Blue Stomper and his "flagger hangers" I'll be shaking my sexy butt in no time. I already have several thongs picked out and I bet the ladies will pour in the first night I open the doors. Wow, just think I'm gonna acheive all this success because Black jacker showed me the light and cut me in on his "grinder rounders" I'll PM you for the pay and pick-up info on my new pack. Thanks again Black momma! Lol that was pretty funny! But on to a serious note, the guy whom I got my pups from that I started with does make his living off catching hogs with these dogs. He been doing it for I'm assuming close to a couple decades now. The line of dogs i run are his and I work with him in progressing this line of dogs forward by breeding the best to the best. These dogs will only be given to like minded people. Yeah you read right, I said GIVEN not sold to like minded people. I dont really mean any disrespect when I tell you that I won't be intentionally giving you any dogs of this line. Breeding are not done to sell pups, only to progress the line forward. Plus I won't be giving his line of dogs away to every Tom, Dick, and Harry and jeprodize my friendship with him. I have more respect for what he allowed me to be apart of than that. I'm very certain you don't realize it, but the more you have me talk about my dogs, the more people contact me and want to know more about them and want to use them, thus the farther down the proverbial list you go in your goal to obtain one lol. In all truths though this line of dogs isn't bred for selling puppies, it's so that the line is bettered and so like minded people can enjoy hunting with them if this style of hog dogging is how they want to hunt. Ain't no half azzing with these dogs or you take away thier edge and what makes them so successful. You either all in and hunt strictly these dogs when you hunt them or they aint for you. If you can't do that then you essentially nullifie the reason for having them and their effectiveness. If you can't follow what I'm saying, then these type hunting dogs are not for you because you will render them ineffective or get them killed. No Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 15, 2015, 09:23:47 am Numbers don't mean nothing but a good place? Talk about someone who don't own a hog dog... Sounds like someone needs to take up golf
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 15, 2015, 10:07:22 am That's fine think what ever you want it's your opinion and that's mine. But any one who has hunted very long knows that it don't take very long to stack up numbers when there is a lot of hogs around. I have been on good spots with big numbers with average dogs and caught a lot as many as others maybe not but this debate is a joke sir numbers mean there are plenty to catch if the dog is out standing or not. I tryed golf in the 80ds didn't like it.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 15, 2015, 11:15:57 am Or it means your dogs are better.... Btw how many years have you been hog hunting?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 15, 2015, 11:22:09 am I don't get why you keep saying I don't have a hog dog you don't know what I got slick. Just stay on your buggy with that cold beer between your legs and think what ever you like brother. I just don't care what you think a dog is or isn't the hog numbers say there are a lot when you catch a lot if the dog is what you call a dog or not. But I would like to see a dog bay 30 hogs where there is only 3 or 4.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 15, 2015, 11:23:26 am Since 87 88 or so off and on
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 15, 2015, 11:36:19 am Never said a dog ain't better the simple fact is more hog more opportunities the dog has. In good numbers the lesser dog will get the job if the true hog dog finds ten and the less 7 on average after a few hunts the numbers will be high for each dog is what I am saying more hogs more chances. And if the better dog sticks to one hog longer wich is what we all want don't care who you are. And the less dog finds more in the same time the numbers will not show the dogs true work. Now I know any person with any logic would agree with that
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: CRC on October 15, 2015, 11:43:18 am Or it means your dogs are better.... Btw how many years have you been hog hunting? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk How can you not realize the amount of hogs you have available to catch does make a difference? If I'm hunting a 2000 ac ranch that only has 10 hogs on it and someone else is hunting the same size place but has 100 hogs on it, who the hell do you think is gonna be able to catch more hogs? My six year old can figure the answer to that out. Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 15, 2015, 12:10:16 pm Places do matter but if your only catching 10 hogs a year I would find a new hobby. But to say I only catch hogs bc I have good places is stupid
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Slim9797 on October 15, 2015, 12:23:26 pm None of them have said you catch hogs only because you have good places! They're saying if you took the same pack of dogs you have, to a place the same size with half the population, of hogs. Your gonna see a decrease in numbers of hogs caught. It's ain't quantum physics
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 15, 2015, 12:25:20 pm I didn't see any one say ten hogs or less I missed it. I never said some one only catches hogs cuz they have a good spot to hunt. And if a fella only catch 4 and he like to work his dog and enjoys it when he does it hats off. I guess if your into making it about the number then your on your way to accomplish that I don't care bout the numbers even tho I wright them down its for me to look back on to see how the dogs are improving with in themselves. You remind me of my buddy that always has to be the best and it's always his dog lol
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: hansonw on October 15, 2015, 12:37:27 pm If you ain't got dogs worth a damn you ain't going to go to a loaded place and were them out. You still need a decent dog I don't give a chit where your hunting
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: oconee on October 15, 2015, 12:37:52 pm All these guys that don't expect their dogs to run a hog if it runs have better spots than I do. I have decent spots but I have heard guys say "we can find another faster than we bay up a runner" lol its not that way around here. Also read stories about quitting dogs coming back and baying hogs close to the truck because it didn't stay with the original hog. That won't work either so I can see where high densities will make what some would cull acceptable to others.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: oconee on October 15, 2015, 12:47:43 pm The most I ever caught in one day was 11 grown hogs. That was the first year I hunter in 1995 and boy did I think I was a hog huntin sum bitch. Ha ha ha. I would not feed ONE dog on that hunt now! Perception is everything. Simple as that, what you've seen and how you perceive it. I've seen ALOT of dogs find, bay, and catch hogs in my life and I have a DAMN good ideal of what I consider a dog that does it in a manner that will work ANYWHERE he's turned loose. Good spot, bad spot, thick terrain, running hogs, chump hogs that don't run, dry conditions, wet conditions, ANYWHERE!! Not just where the hogs are thick.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on October 15, 2015, 01:05:03 pm I like runners have caught them with good success and some with no success. It's the dream we all live for chase that one pig down that the others can't catch and we all have our idea of what works the distance a hog runs in most cases that I have seen is relevant to the dog that's on it fast gritty dog that will bay after that they tend to stop faster or bay along the way a few times. Where as a slower dog will just have to hold off till the hog stops
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Bo Pugh on October 15, 2015, 01:08:58 pm All these guys that don't expect their dogs to run a hog if it runs have better spots than I do. I have decent spots but I have heard guys say "we can find another faster than we bay up a runner" lol its not that way around here. Also read stories about quitting dogs coming back and baying hogs close to the truck because it didn't stay with the original hog. That won't work either so I can see where high densities will make what some would cull acceptable to others. oconee i dont have great spots to hunt their moslty all cut overs and so thick you have to get on your belly going in and crawl and slide or drive the forwheeler. i never hardly get to see a hog before i send the catch dog but i usually have seen his track a few times where he crossed a road. but when i do turn on a track in the road i have a high percentage of catching in withing the next couple hours somewhere, alot of times it will be way from where i started but if i fed quiters id be only catching 30,40,50. i have a place i can hunt by my house about 3000 acres i usually just take young dogs here and i dont even take a bulldog with me cause if i sent one to them bayed id have to go in there its terrible country, i usually just leave them bayed and go back home and check them on the tracker every so often to see if they moved and i dont count them hogs in my tally. but dogs quiting and just coming back to the fourwheeler and stumbling up on a hog is not very likely to happen over here, it might would if i had some " finders Grabbers" but i just have cur dogs. some people will except flaws in a dog because they like it as a pet instead of a hunting dog Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on October 16, 2015, 08:13:49 am All these guys that don't expect their dogs to run a hog if it runs have better spots than I do. I have decent spots but I have heard guys say "we can find another faster than we bay up a runner" lol its not that way around here. Also read stories about quitting dogs coming back and baying hogs close to the truck because it didn't stay with the original hog. That won't work either so I can see where high densities will make what some would cull acceptable to others. oconee i dont have great spots to hunt their moslty all cut overs and so thick you have to get on your belly going in and crawl and slide or drive the forwheeler. i never hardly get to see a hog before i send the catch dog but i usually have seen his track a few times where he crossed a road. but when i do turn on a track in the road i have a high percentage of catching in withing the next couple hours somewhere, alot of times it will be way from where i started but if i fed quiters id be only catching 30,40,50. i have a place i can hunt by my house about 3000 acres i usually just take young dogs here and i dont even take a bulldog with me cause if i sent one to them bayed id have to go in there its terrible country, i usually just leave them bayed and go back home and check them on the tracker every so often to see if they moved and i dont count them hogs in my tally. but dogs quiting and just coming back to the fourwheeler and stumbling up on a hog is not very likely to happen over here, it might would if i had some " finders Grabbers" but i just have cur dogs. some people will except flaws in a dog because they like it as a pet instead of a hunting dog I didn't read anything in there where your curs hunted any different or were any better or worse than my finder holders. Only difference in our game is when the pig first sees a finder holder it's caught. When a pig sees your curs, it leads the curs off deeper in the brush and your left trying to get a catch dog close enough to the bay once the bay is settled that you feel comfortable turning it loose. Bad thing about that is the pig is already furious and on the fight when your cd arrives plus he the pig is normally in a much better spot to protect itself against the assault than it was when the curs first made contact with it. That's the biggest difference in hunting with curs and finder holders. Good finder holders ain't no worse or better at finding pigs than a good cur. It's what happens when they find them that they differ Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: chipolariverman on October 16, 2015, 08:28:50 am Black Streak I have a question about your "finder holders" cause there are some places that we hunt that this type of dog would be great such as close to boundry lines and or small tracks of land.
Do you run any type of bay or cut vest on them or a cut collar? And how often do they get cut or cut to the point that they have to be stood up to heal? And how many do you have so if one does get cut do you have back up or are you just out until he/she heals? Don't think I have read yet as to what type of breed or mix they are if so I missed it. Or is it just the stock that your buddy turned you on to that y'all basically keep to yourselves? Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Goose87 on October 16, 2015, 05:27:48 pm I always believe in a good debate, but this took a turn for the most ridiculous reasons, most of yall need to take a step back and remember why you first got into hog hunting with dogs and quit the pecker measuring, discussions such as this one are nothing more than the very blood pumping in the veins of destruction, can yall not step off of your own regional pedestals and see the division amongst hog hunters, over the most absolutely absurd reasons, who cares what style of dogs you hunt or what you consider a hog dog as long as your in it for the right reasons for the dogs and your goal is to breed a better dog for YOUR STYLE of hunting then so be it, everybody ob here just about lives in different regions and terrain, what works for one might not work for you, it's no different than fishing, one man tight lines, one jig fishes, one line fishes, the other prefers fly fishing all different "styles" of fishing but at the end of the day, guess what fellas, it's still fishing, or look at the quarter horse world, some are cutters, reiners, racers, calf horses, heal horses, heading horses, some run barrels, some run poles, other are trail ponies, at the end of the day their all still quarter horses, if a man runs cold nosed hounds with serious bottom, or a man runs casting curs that are gritty, or fast athletic dogs that stop their game on sight, when it's all said and done and at the end of the day every single one of them is going to chit the same, why knock one man because his style is different than yours, brothers and sister yall better wake yourselves up and learn to pat each other on the back and be gentlemen about your differences because it's not our government or anti hunters tearing us as a sport down, we're doing it to ourselves. What happened to honor amongst houndsmen ?
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on October 16, 2015, 06:14:06 pm Black Streak I have a question about your "finder holders" cause there are some places that we hunt that this type of dog would be great such as close to boundry lines and or small tracks of land. Do you run any type of bay or cut vest on them or a cut collar? And how often do they get cut or cut to the point that they have to be stood up to heal? And how many do you have so if one does get cut do you have back up or are you just out until he/she heals? Don't think I have read yet as to what type of breed or mix they are if so I missed it. Or is it just the stock that your buddy turned you on to that y'all basically keep to yourselves? Finder Holders need to wear protective vest that's as close to cut proof as can be without a lot of weight or rrestrictions. Mine are protected from their chin to just behind the shoulder. I run vest made of fire hose material right now but have one on the way that's made out of an even lighter material that's still water proof, that's more flexible, and I couldn't stab a my pocket knife through it without pushing and turning it. I can stab a knife through everything I've ever seen with ease, even fire hose and salt belt but this stuff was awsome. Very excited about my new vest. You can see a decent picture of one of the vest I run on them in the Finder Holder thread Oconee started and posted pics of one of my dogs on. I have 4 finder holders and 1 stag. One of the finder holders is 3/4 wolfhound. She was a result of an outcross to a really good wolfhound finder holder that just didn't work out. The entire litter wouldn't hunt worth a flip. She works well as a stag though so I kinda just consider her a stag type dog instead of a finder holder. Good finder holders run solely as finder holder rarely ever get cut and if they do its normally nothing bad. What kills dogs like this is people running them with curs as RCDs. That's bad ju ju. Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Mike on October 16, 2015, 06:23:48 pm I always believe in a good debate, but this took a turn for the most ridiculous reasons, most of yall need to take a step back and remember why you first got into hog hunting with dogs and quit the pecker measuring, discussions such as this one are nothing more than the very blood pumping in the veins of destruction, can yall not step off of your own regional pedestals and see the division amongst hog hunters, over the most absolutely absurd reasons, who cares what style of dogs you hunt or what you consider a hog dog as long as your in it for the right reasons for the dogs and your goal is to breed a better dog for YOUR STYLE of hunting then so be it, everybody ob here just about lives in different regions and terrain, what works for one might not work for you, it's no different than fishing, one man tight lines, one jig fishes, one line fishes, the other prefers fly fishing all different "styles" of fishing but at the end of the day, guess what fellas, it's still fishing, or look at the quarter horse world, some are cutters, reiners, racers, calf horses, heal horses, heading horses, some run barrels, some run poles, other are trail ponies, at the end of the day their all still quarter horses, if a man runs cold nosed hounds with serious bottom, or a man runs casting curs that are gritty, or fast athletic dogs that stop their game on sight, when it's all said and done and at the end of the day every single one of them is going to chit the same, why knock one man because his style is different than yours, brothers and sister yall better wake yourselves up and learn to pat each other on the back and be gentlemen about your differences because it's not our government or anti hunters tearing us as a sport down, we're doing it to ourselves. What happened to honor amongst houndsmen ? Well said Goose... Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: swine dogger on October 16, 2015, 09:44:39 pm X2 I thought I was at a family reunion there for a while lol
Get Ahead!! Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: mduggan on October 17, 2015, 06:45:25 pm Great post, Goose! From the way some of our fellow hunters talk to each other, our sport is in trouble.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Stanton on November 01, 2015, 09:38:13 am The lack of response to the original question somewhat show what I have suspected. A lot of people talk a lot about hunting, dogs, hogs, and their opinions about what they think and how they feel. But bottom line they don't really have what it takes to consistently get it done in the woods. I know there are people on here that catch piles of hogs that rarely post and some that are too humble to post about the hundreds they catch. I greatly respect that. Good places to hunt and hog densities definitely have a lot to do with overall totals of caught hogs, BUT hog dogs can get it done anywhere. I have often wondered how many hogs some people on here actually catch. I used to get on here believing that most people on here had more knowledge and experience than myself. But as I began to gain knowledge of my own I began to see things aren't as they appear. If you are proud of what you have, great, that is what it is all about. You feed em. I love what I have. I have had dogs for about 8 years and was lucky enough to start with good stock courtesy of my older brother. Together we have been able to breed and put together a respectable pack of dogs that WE are proud of. The dogs I have lots of people turn their noses up at. According to some they are long range cast dogs. They get out and hunt, bottom line. They are rougher than most but that's what I like. Different strokes for different folks. I get a chance to hunt a few good places and catch good numbers on those a days. Other places I may ride 15-20 miles to find a track. Either way I enjoy going. With all that being said, to answer the original question, the last few years I've managed to put my hands on around a hundred each year. My goal is to catch more than the year before. I caught 116 last year and I am at 103 this year. But I believe my dogs are better right now than they have ever been. A friend of mine summed it all up one time, he Said,"Don't put too much stock in something that will piss in its feed bowl and screw it's own mother or sister" In the end they a just dogs, some with a higher or different skill set but still dogs. I am happy with what I have and what my dogs have accomplished as should be with everyone else. If you're not maybe you should get better dogs or pick up a new hobby.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on November 02, 2015, 07:22:35 am Ya there is a lot of talk on here bout hunting dogs and hog. Lot of good info to be passed around. What I have found since I been a wannabe Internet hog hunter is that most of the guys I have hunted with off this site and face book talk a big game. But there are some on here that can do what they say and then some.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: RyanTBH on November 02, 2015, 02:00:39 pm Lol wow! Bunch of jaw jabberin' going on in this thread... Ain't it real easy to ask a question, take what someone gives you as an answer and move on??? I don't even remember who started this post cause of all the damn negative a$$ comments made on here... It's all petty!
Anyways, since I have some meat dogs or soup hounds, whichever you wana call em, that occasionally trash in a hog, I figured I'd comment. Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: DavidTBH on November 02, 2015, 10:47:42 pm I found myself getting caught up is some of this drama by reading. Then i read gooses post and remembered wye i started on this site. To learn. because i finally realized some people might , just might know a little more than me.maybe.lol
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on November 03, 2015, 05:57:13 am You never know to much to learn something and most of the time it comes from the person you least expect. A open mind can receive information a closed mind won't jmo
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: oconee on November 03, 2015, 12:25:35 pm "Open-mindedness" is for people that gave never layed eyes on exactly what they want. It is not wrong to know what suits yourself and strive to attain it more often. Occasionaly helpful information is construed as an attempt to belitte others ways when often times the "azzhole" actually had decent intentions.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Bo Pugh on November 03, 2015, 12:54:31 pm Ya there is a lot of talk on here bout hunting dogs and hog. Lot of good info to be passed around. What I have found since I been a wannabe Internet hog hunter is that most of the guys I have hunted with off this site and face book talk a big game. But there are some on here that can do what they say and then some. i have met alot of poeple like that myself that at the gas station before the hunt was bragging on their dogs about they was this and would do that, most of them realized they needed a good 22 at the end of the hunt cause they knew exactly what kind of dog they was feeding and they wasnt hog dogs. i have come to realize most people are happy feeding what they got cause they havent ever actually hunted with good dogs before, Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on November 03, 2015, 03:10:36 pm "Open-mindedness" is for people that gave never layed eyes on exactly what they want. It is not wrong to know what suits yourself and strive to attain it more often. Occasionaly helpful information is construed as an attempt to belitte others ways when often times the "azzhole" actually had decent intentions. well when your close mindedness makes you say blanket statements like your dogs are better than everyone elses and not one of your dogs can do what so many others on this forum can, then all you are is dullisional Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on November 03, 2015, 07:28:22 pm I got what I want I feed them every day. I could care less bout what any one thinks is a hog dog we all have our on interpretation of that and some might be lower or high on the scale. But as they say every dog has his day
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: oconee on November 03, 2015, 08:28:51 pm The one common thing that Peel and Black Streak continue to say is "I don't care what......." but apparently they do care because neithet is able to shut up.
I DO care and time allowing I will debate every idiotic line of BS anyone puts on here. Take care Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on November 03, 2015, 08:40:05 pm Lol you go fella
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: RyanTBH on November 04, 2015, 10:00:34 am The one common thing that Peel and Black Streak continue to say is "I don't care what......." but apparently they do care because neithet is able to shut up. x2I DO care and time allowing I will debate every idiotic line of BS anyone puts on here. Take care I put way too much time and effort into my dogs and figuring out what their abilities are and improving upon them to not care. You nailed this one oconee... But I think Judge has a point at the same time... Seems like he's saying he doesn't care if anyone is trying to compare his dogs to what their version of a "hog dog" is... He has his dogs and he likes them. I'm the same in that aspect. It's not that I don't care what people think of my dogs, it's just that they're my dogs and I like them and hunt them so it really doesn't matter what anyone else thinks of them. And the open-mindedness statement, IMO, is vital in continuing to learn. If anyone thinks that their way is the only way or it's the highway then they're idiotic. There are so many different types of dogs and so many different ways of using said dogs to hunt all types of game. There is no end all be all. If I can stay open minded enough to see different aspects of different styles of hunting, then I might be able to use some of the different aspects to improve my way of hunting or my dogs way of hunting. I'm all for learning anything I possibly can. The more you know the better chance you have of accomplishing your goals... If your goal is to catch hogs, then you'd figure you'd be open to just about anything that gets the job done right? Idk and JMO... I'm for damn sure not going to be the guy that says, "my dogs are the chit and better than anyone's chit eating dogs!" This is a perfect example of why I love to travel and hunt, and very much appreciate anyone that has let me and mine come and join in on their hunting adventures. I've learned so much from hunting with other doggers from around the state... And I try to keep it all in mind when doing what we all love to do. I'll be the first to say, I'm not perfect, my dogs are far from perfect, but we still love to hunt and catch hogs. I like my dogs and is why I keep feeding them... If you don't like my dogs then that's ur prerogative and you're entitled to that. Happy hunting! Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Scott on November 04, 2015, 10:09:09 am Well, all I have is a bunch of potlickers...but, I sure do appreciate all of you with those high powered dogs educating those of us that don't ;)
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: oconee on November 04, 2015, 03:12:13 pm Ryan, I didn't start yesterday. I have seen what works here and thats what I'm trying to tie up around my house. Good luck to all but NO ONE on this site is recruiting me to their style!
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: RyanTBH on November 04, 2015, 04:18:55 pm Ryan, I didn't start yesterday. I have seen what works here and thats what I'm trying to tie up around my house. Good luck to all but NO ONE on this site is recruiting me to their style! I can't say I blame you there bud... We do the same thing, breed what works for us. I just like to test my dogs in as many different places as possible, and learn from people hats been doing it longer than me. I can say this, what you're doing looks like it works well. Your Plotts are really good looking dogs. If you ever have a litter you want to home one or two of the pups out of, I'd gladly feed em. One of my favorite crosses we've made is my boy Fred over a full Pocahontas Plott named Soka. Would love to make the cross again but she's gone... Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on November 04, 2015, 07:45:51 pm I sure ain't trying to change anyone's style I like all styles and put equal value on them cuz there are different style as a ford chevy and dodge. Some will say one is better than the other but if taken care of they all will do the job. Same with dogs just my thoughts tho
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on November 05, 2015, 07:28:34 am I haven't caught wind of anyone on either side trying to convert others to their style or their dogs. What's most of this back and forth stems from is me comparing the dogs like mine, peels, crackers, budylee, and several other from this sight, to the dogs of the guys insinuating their dogs are better and more of a hog dog than anyone else's on the sight. Just merely said that not one of their kinda dogs can do what one of ours can from start to finish on a big. None of us with rough dogs were boasting or making outrageous claims of being better or having the best dogs like they were.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on November 05, 2015, 07:40:53 am In short what I'm saying is we should all be able to keep one another honest and in check.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: lacrash on November 05, 2015, 08:10:26 am I haven't caught wind of anyone on either side trying to convert others to their style or their dogs. What's most of this back and forth stems from is me comparing the dogs like mine, peels, crackers, budylee, and several other from this sight, to the dogs of the guys insinuating their dogs are better and more of a hog dog than anyone else's on the sight. Just merely said that not one of their kinda dogs can do what one of ours can from start to finish on a big. None of us with rough dogs were boasting or making outrageous claims of being better or having the best dogs like they were. We run loose dogs n dont let our dogs out with rough dogs. It is all preference. Every man has an opinion, as i cull rough dogs i cant get to back up. Our loose medium range dogs catch us plenty of hogs in north la south ark. We never walk them just cast them n wait for them to bay up. I always compared dog hunters to bowhunters.... If a man shoots a mathews by God he is mathews till he dies, while a Hoyt guy would never shoot a mathews because obviously he is a hoyt guy. Each man could have bought either bow to begin with just like any man can start up a pack of dogs to his likings Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on November 05, 2015, 12:05:58 pm As bush said a tiger don't change it spots lol
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Black Streak on November 05, 2015, 12:06:47 pm I haven't caught wind of anyone on either side trying to convert others to their style or their dogs. What's most of this back and forth stems from is me comparing the dogs like mine, peels, crackers, budylee, and several other from this sight, to the dogs of the guys insinuating their dogs are better and more of a hog dog than anyone else's on the sight. Just merely said that not one of their kinda dogs can do what one of ours can from start to finish on a big. None of us with rough dogs were boasting or making outrageous claims of being better or having the best dogs like they were. We run loose dogs n dont let our dogs out with rough dogs. It is all preference. Every man has an opinion, as i cull rough dogs i cant get to back up. Our loose medium range dogs catch us plenty of hogs in north la south ark. We never walk them just cast them n wait for them to bay up. I always compared dog hunters to bowhunters.... If a man shoots a mathews by God he is mathews till he dies, while a Hoyt guy would never shoot a mathews because obviously he is a hoyt guy. Each man could have bought either bow to begin with just like any man can start up a pack of dogs to his likings Right on man! Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Jason Dunn on November 08, 2015, 12:46:51 am I don't get to hunt much anymore if I had to say I guess I hunt now about 2-3 times a month I have a large pen that I tune them up in now and then.
I think for 2015 I have caught about 18-20 since February because we eat them and cant carry out alive we get one and that's it hunts over we clean it and make sausage. If I could tie them up and keep hunting we would catch more but I don't catch them to just to kill them and leave them we use all the meat and that's how its been all my days. I got a couple dogs that's good enough in my eyes where I hunt we cast where hogs are known to be and usually we get one sometimes 2 most the guys I hunt with don't have dogs and work for food lol. Don't know what I would do with 100-200 hogs for sure I would have none left for seed but I think if I hunted 2-3 times a week I could catch a decent number but my spots would dry up. I wouldn't want to walk behind my dogs I lose signal on them often no way I could keep up with them on foot. I started off with walk dogs 10 years ago in Louisiana and I caught hogs walking the creeks in Caldwell Parish there were quite a few hogs there then. I moved to AR and those dogs couldn't produce for me here because the hogs were spread out and few I would still have to ride a lot and walk a lot to find them. I started getting pups out of longer ranged dogs and have what I like today they usually will make a 300-400 yard loop check in if I don't move they go further and further 1/2 mile is normal and they some times get bayed a lot further than that. When they was pups I hunted them a lot but now I don't feel the need to they know what's up. I say just because a man isn't catching 200 a year don't mean he doesn't have good dogs and if you hunt small blocks with lots of hogs you can do well with short range dogs walking. Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Muddogkennels on December 09, 2015, 01:40:04 am Well nothing has changed on this site .lol. bunch of talkers! Lol. I guess im a walk /jogging hunter .. I like to stay in shape that's most of the reason i walk hunt. Almost Everyone i have hunted with ask me how do you keep up with your dogs without a buggy or atv ! Well i exspect my dogs to follow them to hell and back! I catch alot but my dogs have that extra bottom to stroke a hog out! I only run 1 or 2 bay dogs at a time .. any more dogs its way to much dog power . Now a number of hogs well its over 2 hunderd good hogs every year just with dogs not going to brag but if you spent the time i do in the woods then your best friend are your dogs and you wont be on here bragging about every catch or every shoak yall catch!! Happy internet hunting yall!
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: liefalwepon on December 09, 2015, 12:06:17 pm Well nothing has changed on this site .lol. bunch of talkers! Lol. I guess im a walk /jogging hunter .. I like to stay in shape that's most of the reason i walk hunt. Almost Everyone i have hunted with ask me how do you keep up with your dogs without a buggy or atv ! Well i exspect my dogs to follow them to hell and back! I catch alot but my dogs have that extra bottom to stroke a hog out! I only run 1 or 2 bay dogs at a time .. any more dogs its way to much dog power . Now a number of hogs well its over 2 hunderd good hogs every year just with dogs not going to brag but if you spent the time i do in the woods then your best friend are your dogs and you wont be on here bragging about every catch or every shoak yall catch!! Happy internet hunting yall! Sounds like your doing it right, 200 on foot is a lot of work. Ain't nothing wrong with walk hunting. The mountains are steep out here, a buggy won't do you no good, I only catch 15 to 25 a year, this year maybe hit the 30 mark, like the previous guy said, I can only eat so much pork Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Crossstock on December 10, 2015, 02:09:05 pm Briar hit the nail on the head..... Really who care how many hogs the other guy catches and who cares if someone has better dogs.... Hunt for yourself and your dogs and not for internet fame....
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: dallas22 on December 10, 2015, 04:32:38 pm Briar hit the nail on the head..... Really who care how many hogs the other guy catches and who cares if someone has better dogs.... Hunt for yourself and your dogs and not for internet fame.... X2 Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: liefalwepon on December 10, 2015, 11:49:01 pm X3
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: jpuckett on January 03, 2016, 08:16:30 pm I heard someone say a quote one time. It was. Comparison is the thief of joy. I truly believe that. I don't get to hunt as much as I want, and I don't catch as many hogs as a lot of guys on this thread claim to. But when you are constantly comparing yourself to others it makes it really hard to just enjoy the hunt and the dogs. I enjoy my hunting buddies. I enjoy the companionship with my dad brother and dogs. But I refuse to let the fact that I don't catch 300 a year effect how much I enjoy what I do.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: liefalwepon on January 04, 2016, 12:31:04 pm That's a good attitude! I just want to have fun, have dogs that impress me and catch a few hogs
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on January 04, 2016, 12:57:32 pm 44mag I agree I have ten dogs that I hunt and we hunt as much as we can usely twice a week. Sometimes 3 or 4 average bout 15 plus miles on the dogs and sometime 25 to 30 you would need a long stringer of dogs or plenty hogs at plenty spots
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Slim9797 on January 04, 2016, 02:42:33 pm Let me tell you. I had never seen any other dogs besides mine until I had the pleasure of hunting with Chris scott up here in Stephenville. I thought I had a few dogs that hunted. Never claimed they were any good really, just said I thought they hunted well and I've caught a hog or 2 behind them. Well first night I went with Chris I got to see just what a dog who actually hunts looks and acts like and guys, that whole night I was thinking "I better just go ahead and shoot everything I got so this guy doesn't ask me to bring one of my dogs sometime" comparison that night definitely robbed a lot of joy out of going back and hunting with my dogs. But I will say my pack is getting better every trip and I think that is all about, being in the woods with dogs you enjoy and watching them progress. I quit comparing after that night and now I just accept that everyone has their own dogs and I've caught a hog just like they have. Chris could hand every dog he has over to me and yes I'd hunt the hell out of them, but it wouldn't be the same because I have nothing to do with how good those dogs are. Takes all the pride away.
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Slim9797 on January 04, 2016, 03:20:27 pm Never brag about your dogs or your woman. Cause Both cam make a liar and a half out of you tomorrow
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on January 04, 2016, 05:19:55 pm I Bragg on mine all the time my wife ain't never let me down she's always got my back. As for the dogs this fella told me one time it ain't bragging if they do what you say
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Slim9797 on January 04, 2016, 05:39:18 pm I wasnt trying to stir anything up there judge. And I definitely was not aiming any of what I said at you, I've come to you a few times for advice and if I didn't believe you were a hell of a dog man I wouldn't have done that. What I was saying is more or less that I've noticed the people who truly have good dogs never talk much on them. They just go hunt and let the dogs do the talking. And usually the guys who have dogs like mine or of lesser caliber always want to talk on their dogs. Personally I try to keep my trap shut when it comes to how good my dogs are(frankly they ain't real good at all) but I'm game to jump in on a conversation on dogs and will tell stories of mine and talk about them. But rarely talk them up. I talked one dog up one time and she made me look stupid in front of a guy with what I think is a true solid set of dogs. Haha never again
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on January 04, 2016, 06:47:50 pm Ya I know you weren't. I was just making a statement no loaded guns here lol. I don't look at what people say bout there dogs I listen to what they say bout others and that lets u know what they think of there it's the same thing lol. Most guys do that instead of talking there up so if there dog looks bad it don't make them look silly. I go by the law of averages the numbers never lie hogs struck and finished is what builds your confidence in your dogs not teeth or over all numbers. Say a dog strikes 20 times and finishes 17 or so you know that the averages of that dog finishing what he starts is high. Now dog that strikes 20 but finishes 5 to 8 I would put much faith in. There ain't nothing wrong with a little bragging on your dogs team self what ever positive thoughts breed positive action.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Slim9797 on January 04, 2016, 07:00:56 pm Getting on here and praising your dogs is totally cool with me. I like to post on here stories of hunts and point out which mutts impressed me this time and which ones ticked me off. What I consider bragging is what I seen some guy from Oklahoma say on Facebook he said "I bet I have the best hog dogs around Oklahoma and north Texas
Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: liefalwepon on January 04, 2016, 07:08:20 pm My goal is to hunt hunt twice a week and if I get one hog a week Im stoked, with the handful of small places I have to hunt and not many hogs, I wouldnt have any hogs to hunt if I pressured them more than that, its a delicate balance. I cant eat a hundred hogs a year, I guess if I had that many to kill Id give them to folks.
Im with you judge, I brag on my woman all the time, and my dogs, not how they hunt but just that theyre awesome :) Title: Re: For the ones that have hog dogs Post by: Judge peel on January 04, 2016, 07:08:26 pm Lol I Bragg on what they can do not that there the best no matter how good something is there is one better. I hear that a lot from people my dogs are short range and rough so I take a lot of heat from guys that don't hunt with me or seen my dogs in action they a far from the best but they give me there best
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