Title: Walk hunting Post by: Judge peel on October 14, 2015, 11:35:38 am There has been so much talk bout it in other threads I though I might just start its own. Now I have and do hunt all other style and such. But I do enjoy walk hunting and I have done it behind rangy dogs and short ranges dogs big bottom dogs rough dogs and loose dogs. Ain't much difference rough dogs you have to stay on your toes when they pick it up you have to as well. Loose dogs no hurry steady pace will be fine. On a runner with ether just keep a good pace don't panic lot of times the hog will loop or cut hard in another direction. Some times run straight as can be. I will say this you can find out real fast what a person is made of after 4 miles from the truck when it's 30 deg out and you have crossed a creek 6 times and crawled on hands and knees to get to a caught hog or a good bay. Just my observation but 90% won't do that twice a week yr round so hats off to walk hunter and it really is enjoyable to me.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: ED BARNES on October 14, 2015, 11:58:16 am Generally when people say they walk hunt it is less about their mode of transportation and more about the way the dogs hunt, close by you as you walk. Hunting long range dogs on foot i would not call walk hunting.
Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: bigo on October 14, 2015, 12:27:27 pm I think people are getting hunting on foot mixed up with having to walk a dog over a hog. When I was a young man, I hunted on foot and had dogs that would get out and hunt and caught a good many hogs. When my miss-spent youth and military service caught up with me, I had to send them from the truck then drive to them. Same family and caliber of dogs, just had to change styles.
Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Nannyslayer on October 14, 2015, 12:32:28 pm How we usually hunt is, cast the dogs and wait and see what they come up with. Most of the time I will head in on foot behind them. I can usually be the first person at a bay that way. Bulldogs stay in the truck with my dad, and he will send them once he's close enough. Different style of hunting I guess.
Here lately I haven't walked much. I wait till the weather cools off before I go to hiking too much in these mountains. But the last 3 trips have yielded 3 hogs so the dogs are doin a pretty decent job. Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: l.h.cracker on October 14, 2015, 02:07:27 pm I mostly walk hunt don't get me wrong I have nothing against road hunting casting rigging or any other methods and I have done them all when that is the best way to hunt a spot all with the same pack of dogs.If a dog won't get out and hunt I don't keep him period.In my personal experience when walk hunting my dogs have to work much harder to find pigs because I don't do any of the work for them. I don't find them a track to run or fresh sign to turn out on don't hunt feeders and am not riding them till they rig one.They have to find the sign and work it out and even though I have a game plan when we start the dogs usually decide where we're going because I won't make them turn if they are trying to head a certain way unless necessary.For me and my preferred style of hunting,a dog that is very intense and thorough about his hunting that ranges from 0-500 yards checking every game trail and bush on his loop and does this at a very fast trot checking in at the same trot and gone again are the dogs I like.The dog should have an internal drive that he has no control over the need to find his prey.Once a hog is found I want the dog to try its very hardest to stop the hog and hold it.I have been through a lot of dogs to get a few that I like and I feel are suited for this type of hunting.The things that Judge said are exactly how I proceed in hunting my dogs.I to have found only a few guys that are willing to do this a few times a week it's not for everyone but I enjoy this style of hunting the most.
Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Judge peel on October 14, 2015, 05:43:48 pm Bigo I think your right there is a big difference.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Post by: Fixitlouie on October 14, 2015, 05:47:13 pm Walk hunt....not for fat people
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337Z using Tapatalk Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Shotgun66 on October 14, 2015, 05:53:17 pm I think Ed and Bigo make very valid points. Terminology and interpretation of that terminology vary from person to person.
- I hunt on foot in a very similar manner to you guys. If you are all about commercially harvesting hogs, walk hunting probably isn't for you. I simply enjoy being in the woods. Having dogs along makes it a little more interesting. - It will test your metal for sure! Go bout and walk for. 3 hours with a back pack on up and down ridges and creek bottoms. Just about the time you realize you have had enough, your dog starts one. He runs it 3/4 of a mile from you and bays it. U r already 2 miles from your truck. U r a hog hunter! U go to your dog. Cut your catch dog loose, it breaks! U follow them another .5 until they get it caught! Your gassed before u get there to leg him! It's a good one! Do I tie it or stab it or release it? Dogs r cut. Your hungry and tired and wet! Tie him. Doctor your dogs. Release him. Start the. 3 miles back to the truck! - U have had an adventure and conquered a worthy adversary! That's why I do it! Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Judge peel on October 14, 2015, 06:03:21 pm 66 that's what I like about it heck any one can drive up in a truck or fancy ranger. I have been miles on top of miles from my truck with a caught hog cut dogs but it was worth every step. Don't get me wrong I don't mind a ride back lol
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Shotgun66 on October 14, 2015, 06:18:08 pm Me neither JP. I am an equal opportunity passenger when I have the opportunity!
- I really appreciate it when we get dusted! It's a lot longer walk back with a red but! LOL! Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: aussie black mouth curs on October 14, 2015, 06:45:45 pm Around here it gets pretty hilly. A lot of places are too steep for a quad. I love to walk hunt and I have a circuit that normally takes me 2-3-4 hours (depending on pigs). I'm 42 and in reasonable condition but I can really only handle two days walk hunting in a row these days. One weekend we got 25 pigs in some steep country over two days. Lost two toe nails but had a bloody good time. Was pretty wrecked at the end but might also have had something to do with and empty bottle of rum...
Kiwis on the other hand are a whole other level...they are crazy..walk all day for one pig in country where if you fell you'd die and then carry the bloody pigs out on their back...nuts T Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: KevinN on October 14, 2015, 08:42:55 pm My main spot affords me the oppurtunity to walk, rigg or road. Honestly, I like all 3 styles equally as much...or I use to before I hurt my back. I don't know if I'll ever be able to walk hunt like I use to.
My favorite two hunts to date were a walk hunt and a roading hunt, both solo. The roading hunt I took every dog I had that was of age, lol (5 dogs total). I was more or less just goofing around. I had my hound on the ground by himself most of the time. At my favorite bedding area I turned out my Cur gyp and her daughter with him. They struck a group and as was more often the case than not in this particular area the pigs slipped out the back door. I caught up my cur gyp and her daughter next time I saw them because my cur gyp would get catchy at times and I didn't want her getting to far off. Anyhow, long story short...Preacher trailed them down and isolated a small sow. At 200 yards I dumped the box just for the hell of it and they caught her in a pond. This hunt was just plain fun...and I didn't have to sweat till the end, lol. This is why I love road hunting/rigging. The walk hunt was with a Cur strike dog, Ol Jasper and a lead in CD. I wasn't in any hurry, just a leasurely walk by the river. It was a BEAUTIFUL May morning. I walked for 2-3 hours just enjoying every minute of the beauty God had put me in. It started to warm up and right about the time I was ready to climb out of the bottoms my Cur struck. It was an easy little boar and my Cur had no problem holding bay...I sat and watched for a few minutes but my young bulldog was getting antsy so I let him finish it off. The possibility of hunts like that are exactly why I love walk hunting. I've had more exciting hunts with buddies and we've caught MUCH larger hogs but I don't know that ANY hunt will top either one of those. Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Black Streak on October 14, 2015, 08:47:33 pm I prefer to walk hunt but can only do it when I'm by myself. If I go with a friend they refuse to walk. If a land owner wants to go with me or someone from the deer lease, they don't want to walk. I hunt by myself usually so i get to do it my way usually. Lot of you guys that walk are tuff than I am. I have a tenden in my leg that will start burning pretty bad after a few miles normally. Also, I can't walk more than a few miles or I normally have started cover the same country twice in any one given pasture.
Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Myles Man on October 14, 2015, 10:46:20 pm I think Ed and Bigo make very valid points. Terminology and interpretation of that terminology vary from person to person. - I hunt on foot in a very similar manner to you guys. If you are all about commercially harvesting hogs, walk hunting probably isn't for you. I simply enjoy being in the woods. Having dogs along makes it a little more interesting. - It will test your metal for sure! Go bout and walk for. 3 hours with a back pack on up and down ridges and creek bottoms. Just about the time you realize you have had enough, your dog starts one. He runs it 3/4 of a mile from you and bays it. U r already 2 miles from your truck. U r a hog hunter! U go to your dog. Cut your catch dog loose, it breaks! U follow them another .5 until they get it caught! Your gassed before u get there to leg him! It's a good one! Do I tie it or stab it or release it? Dogs r cut. Your hungry and tired and wet! Tie him. Doctor your dogs. Release him. Start the. 3 miles back to the truck! - U have had an adventure and conquered a worthy adversary! That's why I do it! Exactly, that sounds like an average type of walk, me and CD usually go 4 or 5 miles, strike dog doubles that....after the 3 or 4 hour loop, I'm usually done.....that's ok with me, I'm trying the "1 strike dog and 1 catch dog" style,,,,so far it's easier said than done!! Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Slim9797 on October 14, 2015, 11:45:13 pm All I do is walk hunt. Have 2 dogs that are finished(one ain't to much of a track dog but will wind a pig like nothing) and 3 pups that are learning. Cut them all loose. I've had so many broken bays its to the point where they've got to keep it bayed for more than 10 minutes before I make my way too them. Still have only caught one hog(this is my first year of dogging) but I'm young with the energy to do it everyday if I could so I'll go until my dogs catch on. So far more times than not, I run out of property before my dogs will quit the hog. So I call them off and start them again. I have my fun and that's all that matters to me
Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on October 15, 2015, 10:06:32 am Walk, trot, canter ...it don't make no difference to me . Just get after it ;D
Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: hansonw on October 15, 2015, 02:25:10 pm I will say this you can find out real fast what a person is made of after 4 miles from the truck when it's 30 deg out and you have crossed a creek 6 times and crawled on hands and knees to get to a caught hog or a good bay. Just my observation but 90% won't do that twice a week yr round so hats off to walk hunter and it really is enjoyable to me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk This ain't got to do with about who can walk 4 miles. That's the point of having a damn dog to do that for you. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: hansonw on October 15, 2015, 02:28:27 pm All I do is walk hunt. Have 2 dogs that are finished(one ain't to much of a track dog but will wind a pig like nothing) and 3 pups that are learning. Cut them all loose. I've had so many broken bays its to the point where they've got to keep it bayed for more than 10 minutes before I make my way too them. Still have only caught one hog(this is my first year of dogging) but I'm young with the energy to do it everyday if I could so I'll go until my dogs catch on. So far more times than not, I run out of property before my dogs will quit the hog. So I call them off and start them again. I have my fun and that's all that matters to me If you have caught only one hog you DO NOT have finished dogs. You have 6 week old pups or some culls Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: hansonw on October 15, 2015, 02:53:45 pm And please someone argue you with me that it's ok for two finished dogs to catch 1 hog a year. You can hunt at the dang DFW airport for a year with a hog dog and catch more hogs than one... So your argument is invalid
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: oconee on October 15, 2015, 03:02:58 pm I'm not exactly at my "fightin weight" nowadays but I figure I could follow 95% on this site anywhere they wanted to walk. Its never been about being tough or hardheaded about how I hunt to me. I think the more versatile a guys dogs are the more oopportunities they will present for you. My favorite is to rig hunt. I either rig out of my pick-up or walk my dogs into potential areas. My dogs are all taught to stay close to me when I'm walking (alphas are nice for this lol) and most folks would not approve of this but where I hunt dogs just can't go any random direction and find a hog so I don't have time to wait on a dog to make a 1000 yd cast in the wrong direction. I am way smarter than any dog alive and I will dictate the areas we hunt if we are walking. Two years ago a guy came to hunt with me and we were driving to the woods and the two dogs I had blew up in the box and as I slowed down he asked "what are you doin?" Lol I said "fixing to catch this hog" 10 minutes later we tied a very nice boar that him or his dogs never knew was alive. I got a kick as we were loading the hog he said "well I don't hunt like that, my dogs go hunting and find hogs." Lol. No style is better than the other until the time that one style is better than the other.
Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: oconee on October 15, 2015, 03:10:17 pm All I do is walk hunt. Have 2 dogs that are finished(one ain't to much of a track dog but will wind a pig like nothing) and 3 pups that are learning. Cut them all loose. I've had so many broken bays its to the point where they've got to keep it bayed for more than 10 minutes before I make my way too them. Still have only caught one hog(this is my first year of dogging) but I'm young with the energy to do it everyday if I could so I'll go until my dogs catch on. So far more times than not, I run out of property before my dogs will quit the hog. So I call them off and start them again. I have my fun and that's all that matters to me If you have caught only one hog you DO NOT have finished dogs. You have 6 week old pups or some culls Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Hansonw I will argue the ideal that two finished dogs should produce more than one a year but slim9797 CLEARLY said this eas his first years doggin and he was young so be decent and give him a break. I have no problem going at the guys that claim to know it all but spare the beginners. I remember how much of a tough time I had getting started. Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: oconee on October 15, 2015, 03:14:05 pm "will NOT argue" my bad
Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: hansonw on October 15, 2015, 03:31:48 pm I can go give a homeless man walking down the interstate one of my finished dogs and tell the homeless man to turn him loose when he needs a ham sandwich and that homeless man can catch a hog. So as as an experienced hog hunter I'm here to tell that beginner he does not have hog dogs. I'm not knocking his dog I'm simply telling him he don't own a hog dog
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Judge peel on October 15, 2015, 03:39:40 pm It's not bout who can walk 4 miles lol that's stupid but who will do it to go to there dogs. Some of the places I hunt are only accessible by foot because once you cross the creek that transportation is rendered useless. Running rougher dogs going to the truck and going here and there is a bad choice. You can do that but I ain't and I ain't fast by any stretch. But I ain't seen but one fella hang with my boys when they take off I ain't saying no one can I just ain't seen em. Clearly you just want to be called the king of hog dogging that's cool I could careless I will keep taking my mutts to the woods and do what I been doing catching big boars with them. Oconee that wast for you the other guy. But hey oconee I will definitely agree with the thing bout the one time they where better cuz no matter how good a dog or dogs are just like people there's always one better
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: hansonw on October 15, 2015, 03:41:12 pm Obliviously I get by if I catch 200 more hogs than you a year judge
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: oconee on October 15, 2015, 03:44:51 pm I will agree with EVERYTHING you say but slim9797 its asking for you to run him down. Hes not acting like a know-it-all, hes not claiming his dogs are superior, hes not claiming his style is the only way to hunt so he get a "bye" in my books. I can be a prick but I'm big enough to leave innocent beginners alone.
Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Judge peel on October 15, 2015, 03:44:56 pm Really dude what does it freaking matter what that kid thinks you need stop. Let the kid live his dream stop being so high almighty that's enough. Me and oconee can scream at each other all we want and more than likely care less at the end of the day and I am sure he is a good dude some fellas just don't mix. But you are taking a all time Lowe jacking with a kid who is trying to learn a sport we love good day sir!!!!!!!!!!
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Slim9797 on October 15, 2015, 03:48:42 pm Did I say these two finished dogs I hunt can't catch hogs? No because. They can. And have. I got them from people I know well and that have caught a lot of hogs(Internet dogs ain't hardly ever good dogs). So before you run your mouth on how because I have caught one hog my dogs are culls, READ! I have to call my dogs off because I run out of property. One finished dog is a rough lacy gyp and she's not smart rough either. She's dumb and If she's alive in 2 years I'll be surprised. But she will find hogs. Problem is before I got her 90% of every place she hunted had been dogged plenty. Them hogs would sit and fight, not lace up their running shoes like the hogs I hunt who have never seen dogs until mine . Sorry, I do not let my dogs cross fences after hogs because unless they run to the far side of where they normally are onto my buddies place. The other 2 neighbors will shoot my dogs. Had one tell me it to my face. I've also hunted maybe 7 times this year. And the last 3 times the hogs weren't anywhere on the ranch I hunt. This place has an amazing amount of pressure. If you have to call every man you don't know under the Suns mutts culls because it helps you feel better about yours well that's on you.
Lastly, I'm not one to be butt hurt at all. In fact I'm glad you had time to voice your opinion. But you sound like a man of no humility. Calling out a beginner like you were never there once. Just speaks on your character to me Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: oconee on October 15, 2015, 03:53:58 pm Judge my dad was awful proud of me and I know he meant well but I got a little tired of having to fight, race, arm wrestle, or out lift everyone he thought was a worthy adversary. I'm sure your boys are tough as nails but I don't figure their as fired up about everyone knowin as you are. They probaly don't feel like they have anything to prove although I'm sure they take any challenge you need them to take to make YOURSELF feel better.
Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: oconee on October 15, 2015, 04:00:11 pm Slim9797 PM me if you want to come up to Oklahoma I have plenty of places we can hunt and you can get your dogs on some good action.
Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Judge peel on October 15, 2015, 04:01:15 pm Oconee I don't have to make my self feel better I had plenty of accomplishment for my self as a young man. I talk about them because I am proud of them once again as always you try to make me a joke lol I don't care. You know nothing of me guy but you act like you do
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: hansonw on October 15, 2015, 04:02:07 pm No I'm telling him he needs to reevaluate these finish dogs and the person that sold him finished dogs bc they are not what they are supposed to be
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Black Streak on October 15, 2015, 04:15:31 pm I'm not exactly at my "fightin weight" nowadays but I figure I could follow 95% on this site anywhere they wanted to walk. Its never been about being tough or hardheaded about how I hunt to me. I think the more versatile a guys dogs are the more oopportunities they will present for you. My favorite is to rig hunt. I either rig out of my pick-up or walk my dogs into potential areas. My dogs are all taught to stay close to me when I'm walking (alphas are nice for this lol) and most folks would not approve of this but where I hunt dogs just can't go any random direction and find a hog so I don't have time to wait on a dog to make a 1000 yd cast in the wrong direction. I am way smarter than any dog alive and I will dictate the areas we hunt if we are walking. Two years ago a guy came to hunt with me and we were driving to the woods and the two dogs I had blew up in the box and as I slowed down he asked "what are you doin?" Lol I said "fixing to catch this hog" 10 minutes later we tied a very nice boar that him or his dogs never knew was alive. I got a kick as we were loading the hog he said "well I don't hunt like that, my dogs go hunting and find hogs." Lol. No style is better than the other until the time that one style is better than the other. All makes since now. No wonder you think your so good and your dogs are so good. Your proud moment was a typical deal for the rest of us. Just because you can go to a school yard and beat the crap out of every kid their don't make you aand awsome fighter. Same as someone decent with decent dogs going hunting with people that have never gone or who are new to hog dogging. Ain't hard to look good and get the big head and think your special when you go play in the kiddy pool. Ain't nothing special about you or your dogs. You a dime and them are a dime a dozen on here as far as skill level goes. Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: oconee on October 15, 2015, 04:24:54 pm You nailed it black hawk. I never even seen a good dog and the guys I hunt with are clowns without a clue.
Look we can trash up every topic someone starts with our childish bickeing but the truth is, your not gonna bother me with anything you post on here and I can't get you to realize that a mutt that has to be walked or roaded over a hog to find it isn't a hog dog. I don't give a damn if it catches too, its just an overly rough cull to me. Tell you what I won't address you anymore and you don't address me. Deal? The rest of the members would probably appreciate it. Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: KevinN on October 15, 2015, 04:33:55 pm Oconee...honest to god question here, not poking. You've got huge tracts of land to hunt so you rig or cast mostly, walk into honey holes just to check them out, makes sense...my kinda hunting. But you train your dogs to stay close while walking, and they don't make big loops? Now, "close" is relative...close to me is 200-300 yards. That being said...once they hit a track, they take it to the source right? I mean...I don't see how you could keep them close walking but still expect them to cast properly. Honestly man...not poking at you...just confused.
Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: hansonw on October 15, 2015, 04:35:34 pm No I'm telling him he needs to reevaluate these finish dogs and the person that sold him finished dogs bc they are not what they are supposed to be
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: oconee on October 15, 2015, 05:02:33 pm Good and respectful questio Kevin. I start all my pups with an experienced and completely trash broke dog. By doing this I know anytime a pups gets out of sight he is just fixing to trash or is just screwing off so I bring them back with a light shock at first and soon they leaen to response to my call or the tone. I know this sounds crazy to some but its my way. My dogs will occasionally wind hogs but 95% of hogs I run are trailed up. My style is much like a dry gtound mt lion hunter covering countryin efforts to "cut a track" and I don't want three dogs 600-800 yds in different directions while I'm walking in my direction of choice. This is the way I like to do it and it sound unproductive to many and I completely undetstand why it would. It is a "trail dog" style and I like to train my young dogs to trail. I'm not bragging but many times I cross tracks during the day and when the dogs leave my sight I know whats up and whats fixing to happen. I used to hunt wild rangy deep casting cur crosses and rarely did they trail a hog over a mile but the I CONSISTENTLY seen these dogs trail (not run) over a mile before they find hogs that may have been bedded since daylight. The rangy deep casting dogs eorked well but I can honestly say after hunting that style for 12-13 yrs and this style for 5-6 that this clearly works better around my area.
I hate to be embassed by my dogs and I have been several times over the yrs but the two most embarrassing things that can happen IMO is when someones dog trails up and finds a hog that my dogs couldn't even smell. I'm not talking about being in the right place and finding a hog, I mean walking right away and my dog not even having a clue what the other dog is trailing. Now thats embarrassing. Lol. The other thing is when my dog quits and comes back. Whether is gets hurt or just don't have bottom. When one comes back I can't stand it so thats the two things I try to avoid with my dogd. Sorry for the rambling. Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: KevinN on October 15, 2015, 05:43:57 pm Oconee....When you cast, what do you expect out of your dogs? What kind of area are you wanting covered? Or just strictly check the track you drop them on to see if it's in the right time frame to hold their attention?
Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: oconee on October 15, 2015, 05:55:39 pm When I open my box if a dog leaves sight it needs to be trailing. No "cast" whatsoever. If I put on a track they either start trailing or I load them up and I go on down the road. If I decide to walk then I already know where I expect to find hogs and they stay with me unless we cut a track on the way. I also rig alot at night and its no different. If they bark I stop and open the box. They trail or I load them back up, no road running or jackassin around.
I don't think you understand, I'm not trying to accomplish ANYTHING but train my pups to trail. I'm not concerned with a dogs whipping the brush until he bumps into a hog or a hot track. That occasionally happens but I don't set out looking for that scenario. I have said it a 100 times on here, I hunt for the dog work , not the hogs! Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Black Streak on October 15, 2015, 06:19:30 pm I can go give a homeless man walking down the interstate one of my finished dogs and tell the homeless man to turn him loose when he needs a ham sandwich and that homeless man can catch a hog. So as as an experienced hog hunter I'm here to tell that beginner he does not have hog dogs. I'm not knocking his dog I'm simply telling him he don't own a hog dog Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk neither do you because it takes several of your dogs to find and catch a pig. Lot of us have dogs that do that by themselves. You don't. All you have are half hog dogs Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: KevinN on October 15, 2015, 06:32:04 pm Oconee...mainly what I was asking was, well I don't know, a time frame of sorts I guess. When dropped on a crossing point or track, Most dogs worth feeding are gonna throw their nose down and start working. Some just work a track longer than others you know.
So...I guess what I'm asking is....when you cast, are you trying to cast on a hot enough track that you think your dogs will get on the hog quick or do you just let them work the track until they decide to give it up? I know some trophy hunters down south of me that strictly cast on big tracks...trophy hunters. They'll pass up red hot tracks of a smaller size or group of pigs but turn out on just about any big track...hot OR cold. Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Black Streak on October 15, 2015, 06:32:47 pm Did I say these two finished dogs I hunt can't catch hogs? No because. They can. And have. I got them from people I know well and that have caught a lot of hogs(Internet dogs ain't hardly ever good dogs). So before you run your mouth on how because I have caught one hog my dogs are culls, READ! I have to call my dogs off because I run out of property. One finished dog is a rough lacy gyp and she's not smart rough either. She's dumb and If she's alive in 2 years I'll be surprised. But she will find hogs. Problem is before I got her 90% of every place she hunted had been dogged plenty. Them hogs would sit and fight, not lace up their running shoes like the hogs I hunt who have never seen dogs until mine . Sorry, I do not let my dogs cross fences after hogs because unless they run to the far side of where they normally are onto my buddies place. The other 2 neighbors will shoot my dogs. Had one tell me it to my face. I've also hunted maybe 7 times this year. And the last 3 times the hogs weren't anywhere on the ranch I hunt. This place has an amazing amount of pressure. If you have to call every man you don't know under the Suns mutts culls because it helps you feel better about yours well that's on you. Lastly, I'm not one to be butt hurt at all. In fact I'm glad you had time to voice your opinion. But you sound like a man of no humility. Calling out a beginner like you were never there once. Just speaks on your character to me way to put them one dementional thinking guys in their place. Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Black Streak on October 15, 2015, 06:38:45 pm You nailed it black hawk. I never even seen a good dog and the guys I hunt with are clowns without a clue. Look we can trash up every topic someone starts with our childish bickeing but the truth is, your not gonna bother me with anything you post on here and I can't get you to realize that a mutt that has to be walked or roaded over a hog to find it isn't a hog dog. I don't give a damn if it catches too, its just an overly rough cull to me. Tell you what I won't address you anymore and you don't address me. Deal? The rest of the members would probably appreciate it. why is that? Are you getting embarrassed that your dogs can't do what some of the others dogs on here can do? Or is your puppy mill suffering because people are finding out you ain't got real hog dogs like you claim because they are just half what it takes to catch a pig Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: hansonw on October 15, 2015, 06:41:57 pm I don't have a hog dog? Your right I just catch all of these hogs with house cats. You also forget I like a rough dog.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: WayOutWest on October 15, 2015, 06:54:30 pm Good grief guys this isn't Facebook!
Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Black Streak on October 15, 2015, 06:56:32 pm I don't have a hog dog? Your right I just catch all of these hogs with house cats. You also forget I like a rough dog. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Your the one or one of the ones saying how great your dogs are and that they are HOG DOGS and rest of us ain't got dogs as good as you. That's cool, just like pointing out it takes at least two of your dogs to do what one of several other dogs people have on this forum can do. We ain't saying our dogs are special or better than everybody else's like you and the two other guys are. However, I do like rubbing it in your face that your dogs you keep saying are better than everyone else's can't do but half what many of the other dogs. You and your buddies keep making claims like that and I'll certainly down play your dogs because why? Because they can't do but half what our dogs can. Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Mike on October 15, 2015, 07:26:45 pm I think some of y'all fellas need to travel, hunt some other country and see what your dogs are really made of... you'll be surprised.
You'll definitely reevaluate what you consider a hog dog to be. Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Judge peel on October 15, 2015, 07:32:41 pm Yes sir mike I believe that to but I think a good dog should do ok where ever he goes. My pack is built for where I hunt but I think I could do ok in other area. One good thing bout hogs is no matter where you live they smell the same
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: hansonw on October 15, 2015, 07:44:25 pm No no no. Read my post I said what I have I would call average not awesome. Called averaged to what real hog hunters that know what hog dogs are. So probably better than what rookies call average just like a rookie calls a finished dog a dog that has only caught one hog in a year. So our definitions are probably not the same. I don't think half on these board has what your describing. You can't downplay someone who has caught thousands of hogs either.... So that's not getting to me. Do I think a dog running 40 mph across a field catching a hog is cool? Yeah probably a sight to see. I have got to see dogs running them in the wide open tons of times its a cool thing to watch. After reading tons of post on this board in the last few days there's a few things I can say for certain. People adapt there hunting style to what the terrain is. Obviously you hunt a lot of flat open terrain bc obviously they run them down in the open. Next in some places some people have to walk hunt bc either they can't afford to ride something or it is no way in hell you could drive anywhere and it would take longer than if gone by foot. So is there places to walk? Yes is there places you can use finder holders? Yes is there places you ride a damn sidexside and drink beer? Yes. The post of walk hunting does not mean to me there is no such thing or that must be bc you have number 2ty dogs. Around here to me and bo there is really no where in the surrounding counties of his county or mine that you really can't hunt off a utv or atv at all. Yeah there's times that you may have to get off and walk but for the most part dang near any of them the aid of a atv will get you there to your dogs quicker. So to us people around here that do walk hunt we know there dogs suck. Bc that tells us they want leave there feet and hunt. Now your terrain in Texas or whatever state can be a completely different thing. So the start of my thread how many hogs do you catch that was to see if it's different over there as far as what my perception is of a walk hunter here. So when I started getting the low numbers instead of 100 or more. I was like well sounds like a lot of walk hunters here. So I am all for a man to hunt the way he can. I have been coming off as a complete dick to most the last two days but I will say there is nothing like being in gods country in the great outdoors. So if a kid or a man just likes simply being in the woods bc they love it but don't have a dog that's good at all that's fine with me and I respect that. I'm not telling anyone that loves being in the woods to kill your dogs their not good. I would help a beginner anyway as I could. Was telling the newbie his dogs suck right? Probably not... But I would have never said that if he wouldn't of used the term finished dogs. I'm not trying to tell anyone what they should feed. I'm trying to tell some people that really think there dogs are what they supposed to be some of them probably ain't what you think if you have ever been with a sure enough hog dog. There is always somebody with a better dog and a better place to hunt. We all turned these threads in to who has the best dog or the most culls myself was one of the main ones. My post was directed to people who think they own a sure enough hog dog. I didn't ask people who knew there dog wasn't any good to post. At the end of the day we are all blessed to be able to live in a country that allows us to number 2 talk on our iPhones and laptops all day about how the guys dog in bama and Texas suck lol.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: oconee on October 15, 2015, 07:48:46 pm Kevin, Peel, Black Steak, or anyone else for that matter is welcome to come hunt with me anytime after deee season. I have nothing to prove and you probably won"t be "wowed" but I am tired of acting like a bunch of kids. Frankly I'm ashamed of how I have acted one this site. I would love for Black Streak to come especially! By the way the next person to address me directly is a coward if its not to arrange a hunt together. I will travel ANYWHERE as long as whoever I join joins me in return. Black Streak if you think I won"t drive to the end of the earth to hunt with you then your CRAZY.
Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on October 15, 2015, 07:55:29 pm My dogs are so crappy I take a fishing pole on a hog hunt
Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: hansonw on October 15, 2015, 07:55:39 pm Oconee I'm not welcomed:(
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: oconee on October 15, 2015, 08:00:16 pm Hanson anyone is welcome but truth is I think me, you and Bo are on the same oage as far as what "hog dogs" must do. You can come anytime you want but I bet we won't learn much from each other. Come on if you want tho!
Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Judge peel on October 15, 2015, 08:02:39 pm Oconee I know me and you ain't been the kindest to each other. But I have always been a man of my word and big enough to stand up to the music. I would like to come up and hunt with you I love hounds and to hunt. If your really on the up and up I ain't a bad guy I am pretty sure you ain't ether. This ain't a joke
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: hansonw on October 15, 2015, 08:04:58 pm You may be surprised Oconee I'm really a 14 year old with a miniature pincher that's just plays awesome behind the keyboard lol
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: labaconchaser on October 15, 2015, 08:24:29 pm The young man just started maybe they aren't finished but but i no when I started I caught 3 the first yr with my dogs by themselves i was happy as hell with them then now looking back I wouldn't have kept none of them but I wouldn't do it any different if I had a chance I was having fun and couldn't spend any big money to get going and worked with what I had
Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Black Streak on October 15, 2015, 08:26:24 pm Kevin, Peel, Black Steak, or anyone else for that matter is welcome to come hunt with me anytime after deee season. I have nothing to prove and you probably won"t be "wowed" but I am tired of acting like a bunch of kids. Frankly I'm ashamed of how I have acted one this site. I would love for Black Streak to come especially! By the way the next person to address me directly is a coward if its not to arrange a hunt together. I will travel ANYWHERE as long as whoever I join joins me in return. Black Streak if you think I won"t drive to the end of the earth to hunt with you then your CRAZY. I'm not totally against sharing a hunt or two with you two fellers but before that happens, I think it best to see how things go for a while. Better to establish some respect for each other for a while on the count of the past 3 threads we have went back and forth on than to experience an ego trip in the woods. I'm glad you to got humble but i doubt it was anything the rest of us been saying that was the reason for the change. More like a moderator had a private conversation with yall it screams to me like. Whatever the change, I appreciate it and you two guys showed grace. Pardon me if I'm skeptical for a while though. I look forward to friendly conversations with yall and hopefully some good hunting with yall in the future!!! Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Reuben on October 15, 2015, 08:31:03 pm I hunt very little nowadays...not by choice but that is how it is...my ramblings are more from past experience and with the dogs I had bred for 5 and 7 generations and more...so having said that...
I will never shock a pup in the woods on account I do not want them to associate the shock to ranging as being the bad thing they did...I want my pups to range out...I make sure they know it is acceptable to run hogs in the woods before I even think about shocking them off of trash...I try to break them off of cows at my brothers house as pups and off of deer in my back yard but only after they have been worked in the bay pen...I do not want them to associate baying as the bad thing...back before 4 wheelers and telemetry we walked and ran as much as possible to keep the dogs in hearing distance...I remember doing lots of searching...lost my voice for a while from hollering for my dogs...truck horn blowing...cow horn blowing...modern technology is nice... what is the most important thing for me is to do all I can to bring out the best from my dogs...to bring out the very best in them is my #1 priority otherwise they will pick up bad habits...good dogs with proper handling makes for better dogs... Walking is for the younger guys...I will do it if need be but I will ride as close as I can until traveling on foot is faster... Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Shotgun66 on October 15, 2015, 08:33:48 pm I appreciate the invitation.
- I have conditions though! U have to let me buy your gas, drinks, and dinner! - I also insist on leading your catch dog fer ya! I enjoy ridin along and learnin and seein how other folks hunt and handle their dogs and situations. - Oconee, Y'all still gonna have that Plott Days event in March? Seriously thinkin about coming if u r. Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on October 15, 2015, 08:33:59 pm The young man just started maybe they aren't finished but but i no when I started I caught 3 the first yr with my dogs by themselves i was happy as hell with them then now looking back I wouldn't have kept none of them but I wouldn't do it any different if I had a chance I was having fun and couldn't spend any big money to get going and worked with what I had I think the fella is still in high school to. Probably aint got to much time to beat the bushes. I think hog hunting, (or any kind of outdoors) should be promoted and exposed in a positive fashion to guys like him. Number one because its all going to be over real soon if we dont all stick together and get the youth involved. And second of all: I wish I would have got involved at an early age. God knows I went way in the opposite direction and damn near threw my life away. Who knows a good time in the woods might just save a man early on in his life and he never even know it. Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: oconee on October 15, 2015, 08:36:13 pm Judge I can't hunt my best country until the goat herders are out but I have a good spot we can hunt with plenty of hogs and I have a camper on my lease ya'll can stay in that sleeps 3 so you are welcome to bring your boys and we'll hunt a couple days if you want. I think you'll find I'm not as bad as I seem on here.
Ha ha ha hanson I think we have a 14 yr old amoungst us but you've done made enough realistic posts that I'm pretty sure you know what a hog dog is. Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: KevinN on October 15, 2015, 08:40:08 pm I've been told my best dog is my bluetick and I don't even like him....lol....maybe I DONT know what a hog dog is...bahahaha
Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: oconee on October 15, 2015, 08:45:59 pm Black sheep I have already gained about as much respect for you as I ever will I figure. And I can promise you I won't have anything nice to say to you.
Reuben we clearly think and hunt different and I know my doings aren't the norm. I respect your style and I told everyone.my style. Shotgun we still having the Round-up in March, I'll out some stuff on here when it gets closer. Hollar when you think you can get loose for a hunt but you ain't buying.my dinner, I'm buying yours. Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Reuben on October 15, 2015, 08:56:37 pm Oconee...your walking style sounds more like searching and starting the track you want your dogs to start...and that is personal choice like you said...
Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Black Streak on October 15, 2015, 08:56:53 pm Black sheep I have already gained about as much respect for you as I ever will I figure. And I can promise you I won't have anything nice to say to you. Reuben we clearly think and hunt different and I know my doings aren't the norm. I respect your style and I told everyone.my style. Shotgun we still having the Round-up in March, I'll out some stuff on here when it gets closer. Hollar when you think you can get loose for a hunt but you ain't buying.my dinner, I'm buying yours. Didn't really figure you was genuine. Glad I didn't pander to you like a fool. You just mad because I deflat that big head of yours. Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Myles Man on October 15, 2015, 09:01:46 pm My dogs are so crappy I take a fishing pole on a hog hunt It's funny you said that, once my brother wanted to go walk the creek and fish some holes...I thought "maybe my dog would range out more if I stayed put and let her get bored of watching me fish?" Lol Then I just knew she'd turn the fishing trip into chasing her for 3 hours....so we didn't do either Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on October 15, 2015, 09:08:20 pm My dogs are so crappy I take a fishing pole on a hog hunt It's funny you said that, once my brother wanted to go walk the creek and fish some holes...I thought "maybe my dog would range out more if I stayed put and let her get bored of watching me fish?" Lol Then I just knew she'd turn the fishing trip into chasing her for 3 hours....so we didn't do either Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: TheRednose on October 15, 2015, 10:54:12 pm I mostly walk hunt because I don't have any choice which is fine by me anyways. We have lost as many as we have caught and that is what made me re-evaluate the type of dogs I wanted. I'm just out there to have fun and enjoy myself and it is nice to catch one every so often but I love the thrill of the chase just as much. Regardless I don't get to hunt anywhere near as much as I would like so any day out in the woods with the dogs sure beats my office and computer screen.
Title: Re: Walk hunting Post by: buddylee on October 16, 2015, 08:35:37 am I like walking dogs into a field or thicket. Like mentioned before, lotta hogs run when they hear a 4 wheeler. For those of u who like chasing a hog, more power too you. I like walkin in a big straight catch type dog with a winding type nose that hunts out to 150 yards. Seem to have a higher percentage this way vs riding the roads.
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