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Title: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on November 07, 2015, 10:20:00 pm
Im probably about to ask a real dumb question here. I want fence off a small "pasture type"  area on my land. We have 13 acres fenced with barbed wire.  But the "new" part I'd like to do with electric fence. Im looking at the zareba 100 mile charger. My question is how many strands of wire will it power? Or do I have to buy a charger per strand? If that's the case then im screwed.


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: WayOutWest on November 07, 2015, 10:24:01 pm
One charger will do all the strands.


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: chipolariverman on November 08, 2015, 06:17:10 am
1 charger will do multiple strands I would run at least two strands of wire


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Goose87 on November 08, 2015, 08:26:25 am
Depends on the size of the land, most chargers are categorized by how many acres it will provide power for, you can get a pretty good charger for a reasonable price.


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on November 08, 2015, 09:00:03 am
Its only about 1/2 an acre.  Id like to run at least 3 strands of wire


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Goose87 on November 08, 2015, 09:52:03 am
Then the charger your looking at will be plenty enough, just jump all the strands together.


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Goose87 on November 08, 2015, 09:53:17 am
And I meant they were categorized by miles not acres.


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on November 08, 2015, 10:43:22 am
We want to pasture some pigs we've been thinking about buying. I want something that will knock the piss out of em if they touch it. My wife has got a wild hair and wants to try to raise some organic pork along with the cows.


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: WayOutWest on November 08, 2015, 10:48:59 am
I would get small ones to start cause a biggun may very well just run thru it!


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Goose87 on November 08, 2015, 11:36:53 am
It can be done, there's a farmer down the road from me who does, just have to make sure they respect the fence and expect the shock, not trying to tell a man his business but I would put some marking ribbon on the fence until the hogs get used to it so when they see the ribbon they associate that with pain, whenever I find a spot where some yearlings are going through a fence I'll fix the fence and put marking ribbon on the gap I fixed so that when they come back to use the gap they'll see the ribbons and notice something is different and will slow down and check out the ribbons in return realizing the fence has been fixed, they used to just go right through the gap again not knowing the fence was there and I would have cut up yearlings along with money and time wasted fixing a fence. You could also fence off a spot where you plan on putting a spring garden and winter the hogs there that way the soil is organically fertilized and aerated and just move the pen in the spring where you want a winter garden.


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on November 08, 2015, 11:54:56 am
It can be done, there's a farmer down the road from me who does, just have to make sure they respect the fence and expect the shock, not trying to tell a man his business but I would put some marking ribbon on the fence until the hogs get used to it so when they see the ribbon they associate that with pain, whenever I find a spot where some yearlings are going through a fence I'll fix the fence and put marking ribbon on the gap I fixed so that when they come back to use the gap they'll see the ribbons and notice something is different and will slow down and check out the ribbons in return realizing the fence has been fixed, they used to just go right through the gap again not knowing the fence was there and I would have cut up yearlings along with money and time wasted fixing a fence. You could also fence off a spot where you plan on putting a spring garden and winter the hogs there that way the soil is organically fertilized and aerated and just move the pen in the spring where you want a winter garden.
thank you sir. Thats pretty much the plan.  We want to dive in head first and next year we are going to try our best to cut the grocery store bill WAY DOWN.  Im always open to new ideas and things that have been tried and tested before. 


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Goose87 on November 08, 2015, 02:06:22 pm
Make sure you have a good ground. Multiple ground rods with good clamps make the difference in a good hot fence. Make sure you have good connections on the strands connecting them together. Wrapping the wire on itself isn't a great connection. Wire nuts work great for connections.
.  This is a legit question and I don't intend to sound like a smart as$ but say if you jumped your wires together by wrapping the wire tightly on itself going an inch or two with your wrap wouldn't it cover more surface area than a wire nut would ?


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Goose87 on November 08, 2015, 05:50:26 pm
Fella I guess I am a smart guy because I can read what I asked, its obvious you get offended when someone questions you, maybe you should go back and re-read what I wrote, as stated above it was a legit question and I didn't want to come off as a smart ass but seems you couldn't comprehend that, not once did I ever question your knowledge on the subject at hand, I farm for a living I'm not an electrician SMART GUY....


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: The Old Man on November 08, 2015, 06:25:27 pm
Sometimes 3,5 or even more strands are electrified and in this scenario every other strand will  be hot the others will be grounds then even it  is hot and dry the animal pushing will be grounded and get shocked.


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on November 08, 2015, 06:46:02 pm
Is it hard to set one up..I'm honestly not a SMART GUY  and its starting to sound complicated. 


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Goose87 on November 08, 2015, 08:20:15 pm
Is it hard to set one up..I'm honestly not a SMART GUY  and its starting to sound complicated. 
    It's not hard at all, one of the easiest applications in farming, just have to make sure there isn't going to be any limbs or high grass hitting so there won't be an issue of it getting grounded out.


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Goose87 on November 08, 2015, 08:20:20 pm
Is it hard to set one up..I'm honestly not a SMART GUY  and its starting to sound complicated. 
    It's not hard at all, one of the easiest applications in farming, just have to make sure there isn't going to be any limbs or high grass hitting so there won't be an issue of it getting grounded out.


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Goose87 on November 08, 2015, 08:29:52 pm
I farm too!! I must be a smarter guy.
Hey man if being a key board commando makes you feel like a macho and helps poke that chest out in a crowd I'm glad I could help out, you've made it pretty obvious you want everyone to think your the authority on this subject, i was simply asking a question because I honestly didn't know and I've always just wrapped the wire tightly jumping the wires together, I got better things to do with my time than to ride down the road looking at power lines and utility lines running to houses, where I come from if someone sees you riding slow looking into the air or at someone's house your either thought of as a dumbas$ or thief, if you lived closer to me I would buy you a beer and a bag of beef jerky because your obviously THE MAN around your parts but since I can't here's one on me


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Goose87 on November 08, 2015, 08:31:59 pm


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Goose87 on November 08, 2015, 09:26:27 pm
My feelings don't get hurt Maggie, I can call you Maggie right ? I don't drink much myself but being as your from Cali I'll buy you a round of evian and even have the server put one of them little umbrellas in it for you. Thanks for the schooling in Hotwire CaliMaggie, I feel violated that I've been living a lie and been doing it wrong all this time...


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on November 08, 2015, 09:36:16 pm
I like miller lite. And if its cold and im outside some Jim Beam will hit the spot every now and then.  Thank yall for the help though. I'm pretty new to all this stuff but were about to hit it wide open right here shortly.


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Goose87 on November 08, 2015, 09:43:32 pm
I thinks it's an awesome thing, the more self sufficient you are the better off you are imo, if there's any local markets or  grocery stores in town you could check with them and see what they do with their out of date produce and such to cut the cost of feeding them


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on November 11, 2015, 05:38:46 pm
How important is the "H" brace support if im only doing 3 possibly 4 wires and they are all low to the ground? Also my land is terraced off. How do yall fence those? Forgive my ignorance please. Like I said I'm fairly new to it all.


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on December 01, 2015, 04:16:54 pm
Well knock on wood....so far so good. Me and my little cousin worked our butts off on it and it seems to have paid off.  (http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag326/coondogo80/Mobile%20Uploads/20151120_170451_zpsj7zedodj.jpg) (http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/coondogo80/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151120_170451_zpsj7zedodj.jpg.html) (http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag326/coondogo80/Mobile%20Uploads/20151120_150501_zps4alir7vq.jpg) (http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/coondogo80/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151120_150501_zps4alir7vq.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on December 01, 2015, 04:19:16 pm
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag326/coondogo80/Mobile%20Uploads/20151120_150418_zpsyr44eadk.jpg) (http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/coondogo80/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151120_150418_zpsyr44eadk.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Slim9797 on December 01, 2015, 05:16:19 pm
Quick, Get the dogs!!!


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Slim9797 on December 01, 2015, 05:17:16 pm
Not sure why the rest of my post didn't show up but good job Georgia, looks like your work paid off


Title: Re: Electric fence Question ?
Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on December 03, 2015, 03:33:54 pm
Yes sir slim. So far so good. We're really enjoying having these domestic hogs. I've got these and some wild ones. But the wild ones are down in the bottoms in a better pen. Lol