Title: how close do yall stay? Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on January 31, 2016, 02:21:46 pm Been reading on here a bunch and see some folks talking about having dogs that range way out there over a mile and what not. I was wandering how close do yall stay to your dogs. Or do you let them get out real far, and why do you choose to do it that way? I personally like to stay within a few hundred yards. My reasoning is im fat and slow, and I don't like it to take an hour to get to a bay. Lol. When I coon hunted it was different, I'd just cut the hound loose and wait. He'd get out of town sometimes, but he'd tree and stay put. It didn't matter how long it took me to get there. Im just curious and wanting to hear some of yalls opinions on letting them range way out or try and stay fairly close. Why or why not.
Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: Mike on January 31, 2016, 02:43:44 pm I'm in no hurry to get to a bay... they'll be bayed when I get there, whether it's a few minutes or a few hours.
Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on January 31, 2016, 02:57:26 pm Im no pro at it so this might not make much since , but on the smaller properties that I can hunt I feel like the faster I can get there the less of a chance the hog is going to break or I might be able to make it before a dog gets to close and puts to much pressure on the hog and causes the it to break.
Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: Slim9797 on January 31, 2016, 04:19:09 pm I kinda slowly mosey my way along while dogs are hunting. I hardly check the Garmin because frankly if i know I'm not at risk of them crossing the wrong property line. I really don't care where my dogs are unless they are bayed. I trust them enough and they should know what they're doing. Take into account also that if my dogs are farther than 800 yards i promise it's cause they're running a pig. Usually over 400 means they are fixing to be looking at a hog
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: The Old Man on January 31, 2016, 06:20:15 pm Leave'em bayed they can "if they have it in'em and you don't have too many loose" learn about keeping a hog bayed-how much and when to pressure and you can also learn if your dog is worth feeding. If they won't stay bayed dispose of them and on top of that it is good listening.
Some friends and I were hunting 2 or 3 weeks ago and we left two of their young dogs bayed ( a 10mth old and a 13 mth old) for 2 hrs or more while we gathered some more dogs up and ate dinner. Most times people that get in a hurry and seem desperate to catch the hog are fairly new to the sport, when you've been at it long enough you realize it is about the dog progress not just catching a hog and besides if you're tying them down that is when the work starts. And I understand about keeping landowners happy with results but you should get enough results without having to be in a hurry to get there. Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: gary fuller on January 31, 2016, 06:39:59 pm with the current pack of dogs my partners have right now you better not be too far from them or you can have cut up dogs. if there are 2 dogs there they will fight the hog and try to catch it.
Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on January 31, 2016, 06:49:45 pm My best 2 will stay bayed for longer than I care t leave them. Although I am fairly new to the sport, my main concern is staying on the right property. Thats why I like to get there quick. If I had big enough land that I knew the dogs wouldn't get off of I would dang sure just ease in there and talk about how good the dog's sound.
Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: CalebKirkland on January 31, 2016, 06:53:41 pm I like a dog that works within 500 or so yards first but if it doesn't strike then will get on out. When the garmin looses communication then I will get closer to them. I very seldom ever have over 2 dogs on the ground at a time so it aint very hard to keep up with them. I like to see my dogs find the hog even if I turn them out in no sign while I sit on the ranger and relax. lol
Title: Re: Post by: justincorbell on January 31, 2016, 07:13:25 pm I try to stay within 500yds. The way we have been hunting lately we just ride to a spot and drop em then sit and wait to see what happens. If they roll out past five we ease to em a bit. We dont run in or haul ass to a bay, i personally dont enjoy that at all, i prefer to ease in to 100yds or so on the buggy then walk in.
Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: Shotgun wg on January 31, 2016, 08:26:32 pm When my rough dogs are on the ground I want to be close. 400 yards max. Loose dogs not a big deal.
Shotgun Arkansas Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: The Old Man on January 31, 2016, 10:34:13 pm He asked about getting to a bay so I took it he meant "bay dogs". I'm old fashioned and just don't have any use for one that you have to run to for whatever reason, or one that you can stay that close to.
Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: Shotgun wg on February 01, 2016, 12:34:29 am Good thing you ain't feeding my dogs then.
Shotgun Arkansas Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: Judge peel on February 01, 2016, 06:34:59 am I got some that if they get 2 or 3 miles away I don't worry to much. Then I got some you best not stay to far back or could bad. Not to start nothing but I would never go eat dinner while I had a dog bayed lol
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: justincorbell on February 01, 2016, 08:18:10 am ^ hey when its time to eat its time to eat ;D ;D
Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: liefalwepon on February 01, 2016, 10:23:47 am I got some that if they get 2 or 3 miles away I don't worry to much. Then I got some you best not stay to far back or could bad. Not to start nothing but I would never go eat dinner while I had a dog bayed lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I wouldn't be able to enjoy my meal. Lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: Bryant on February 01, 2016, 11:30:21 am If you'll let the dogs settle in and work the hog for a little bit, he'll be easier to catch once you do send the catchdogs...I guarantee it.
Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: warrent423 on February 01, 2016, 02:51:13 pm I'm down to one cur dog. She is close range and hunts "with" me. When she leaves me, I try to stay with her. She will square one up from the front as soon as she gets to it, hanging the head if necessary to get it stopped. She will then attempt to stay less than a foot off the end of its nose, maintaining eye contact and bark till I get to her. She'll catch and hold until I can get the hog under control. It is because of this rough, front end style that I try and stay as close as possible.
Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: jdt on February 01, 2016, 03:32:25 pm the kind of dogs the old man has were and still are used for a living . finding and penning free range cattle and hogs in big rough mountain country . sometimes they would be bayed hrs before they could be found or gotten to . they wasn't for sport hunting , however they are good for that too . if you use too many at one time you'd better be close .
Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: Judge peel on February 01, 2016, 03:54:27 pm To many dogs on the ground is trouble in more than one way I like 3 my self
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: make-em-squeel on February 01, 2016, 04:59:00 pm If you'll let the dogs settle in and work the hog for a little bit, he'll be easier to catch once you do send the catchdogs...I guarantee it. I agree letting dogs bay is what they are meant to do, unless its real hot. I only run once the cd is loose. If dogs cant hold a bay for hours I wouldnt feed them Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: CHRIS H. on February 01, 2016, 08:46:55 pm I like to run there and film it .. If I can catch the hog without a catch dog it's nice cause the dogs will roll out and get on another one while we fool with whatever I'm or whoever is sitting on. Most the time there's more then one bay goin on anyway so I think it's nice to be quick so those group of dogs can get on more too
All this only works if I start off by running in the right direction to begin with tho haha As far as range .. wouldn't it mater more if the dog takes a track and puts a hog at the end of it ? What's it prove if someone opens the box and all the dogs run away .. Might look cool on a Garmin I guess seems like when they get somethin in their nose is when the range starts .. They'll be 200 feet away just huntin for a good while , then once they pick up a trail they're a mile away before you know it .. Or they might be far out what seems like a cast but they're leaving you and checking where traditionally they've struck hogs before . I think they remember that stuff if you take them to a place enough . All that being said I don't even own a hog dog that's just what I think is goin on whenever I get invited out Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: oconee on February 02, 2016, 09:32:28 pm I got some that if they get 2 or 3 miles away I don't worry to much. Then I got some you best not stay to far back or could bad. Not to start nothing but I would never go eat dinner while I had a dog bayed lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Why Judge? What happens if you get hungry? Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: oconee on February 02, 2016, 09:36:23 pm Guys we've been over this time and time again. If your always getting to your dogs real quick its not because your some kind of super hound chasin athlete!
Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: Judge peel on February 03, 2016, 08:12:48 am Lol good buddy if you get hungry eat but I ain't going to no steak house while my dog is bayed. I don't mind leaving them bayed. I just wouldn't load up and head out.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Post by: msriverrat on February 03, 2016, 08:23:00 am We usually let out and wait for a bay or until they get out of gps range
Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: The Old Man on February 03, 2016, 12:18:24 pm This thread like lots of others on here through the years deals with the different cultures within the sport. I fully support folks being able to use whatever style of dog they want and hunt them however they choose.
The culture I am from says that a dog you can stay real close to don't cast very far and won't run much track. More of a wind only or really hot track dog. He probably won't run one very far without quitting and coming back to resume the hunt. That is how you can consistently be real close to him when he finds a hog. This sort of dog can be real productive where there are lots of hogs, probably catch more hogs with him than a cold nosed dog with lots of bottom. Also the culture I am from is against a dog that "fights" a hog since we want a colder nosed dog that won't quit a track therefore will often get to a hog a long ways off and if you "aren't" real close to them one of 3 things will happen, dogs get cut up, hog gets wrecked out and ruined, (we catch and tie) or the hog flushes and the race is on. I am not saying I don't want a dog to bite a hog I do want a dog to bite a hog to stop it but when it stops I want him to back up and bark, hogs are smart and figure out pretty quick if I run this rascal bites me but if I face him I can keep him off of me. 1-3 dogs that don't "pick" at a bayed hog will keep lots of bad running hogs bayed that otherwise would not stand bayed. Hogs have 3 choices when dogged, whip them off, out run them, or be eaten alive so for the hog to stand bayed he needs to be able to feel he can win if he stays still. This sort of dog you don't have to be in a hurry to get to and seldom gets cut up very bad. Now you can drink a beer take a dip of snuff and listen to'em bay hahaha. The fewer dogs you turn loose the better off you are for this style of hunting. I don't have any experience with the find, catch, hold, type of dog therefore have no comment on them. Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: Judge peel on February 03, 2016, 01:38:58 pm That's a pretty good write up old man.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: Slim9797 on February 03, 2016, 04:09:56 pm Now you can drink a beer take a dip of snuff and listen to'em bay hahaha. if this is your motto when hunting I'm gonna have to beg you to let me come tag along some time lol The fewer dogs you turn loose the better off you are for this style of hunting. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: Judge peel on February 04, 2016, 06:50:00 am Slim your under age you shouldn't be drinking. You can dip snuff but I wouldn't recommend it. It's a nasty habit
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: justincorbell on February 04, 2016, 08:00:07 am Slim your under age you shouldn't be drinking. You can dip snuff but I wouldn't recommend it. It's a nasty habit Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk But it sure is tasty ;D Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: Slim9797 on February 04, 2016, 07:00:04 pm Slim your under age you shouldn't be drinking. You can dip snuff but I wouldn't recommend it. It's a nasty habit it all goes down the same. I ain't talking getting trashed and going hunting, that's dumb. The law says 21 but there's 40 year old who can't drink without getting stupid.... And Copenhagen has my heart, save the lungs screw the gums ;D Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on February 04, 2016, 07:13:24 pm Im allergic to alcohol. .....it makes me break out in handcuffs. >:D popo O0
Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: Slim9797 on February 04, 2016, 07:21:37 pm 8D lmao Georgia!
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Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: Fixitlouie on February 04, 2016, 08:23:21 pm Almost two yrs stone cold sober. Life is awesome sober. Was about 8 yrs on the wagon. In that time I broke 5 bones and had 5 kids....I drink now. Not like I use to but I do. 8 years gave me time to grow up and think clearly. Now when I drink I keep my ass at home...and I haven't broken a bone!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk fixitlouie@gmail.com Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: Georgia-Hawgs on February 04, 2016, 08:47:37 pm I don't drink much but I do sip on a cold beer or 12 about once a month. I'm not one to just have a beer with dinner. When I drink, I drink a bunch of them. Lol. And like fixit said.....I keep my tail at home. We like to grill and make a fire with family and friends, tell lies , Pick guitars and pretend we know how to sing old country songs. My wife can get real mean sometimes though ! And according to her its always my fault. rolleyes
Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: hillbilly on February 04, 2016, 08:49:32 pm Almost two yrs stone cold sober. Life is awesome sober. Amen to thatSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Post by: ca. hogman on February 05, 2016, 07:03:45 am I'm the only one that likes it when I drink. I turn mean In July it will be 11 years sober for me. My opinion is you owe it to your dog's to be 100% clear minded you never know what will happen on a hunt.
Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Title: Re: how close do yall stay? Post by: Slim9797 on February 05, 2016, 09:18:18 am Yeah my buddy got his start dogging with a guy who used to get trashed while hunting. I mean I've heard stories of him falling off horses and crap. At the very least I'll tell you I don't think much of the guy cause of that
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