EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

For those who have bred a few dogs.  Which breeding have produce your best dogs to date.  I mean is it a cross that has made your best dog are dogs to date or is it a line breeding are have you gotten your best from a inbred type of breeding?

As for me with the hog dogs it would be as of right now a tie between a straight cross and a heavy line breeding so done.

Texashogdogs weren't you breeding some fl dogs awhile back?

Yes sir.  Still am , slowed down now that have gotten some of them of age.  Crossed the Cracker dog on the line I got.  The first cross with the Whitey gyp turned out pretty well a few where culls but most have turned in to some pretty dang good dogs above avarge for sure.  Crossed Cracker on Hannah turned out real well a few culls but some hammering fools in that liter some smaller dogs that with Whitey.  Then I crossed Cracker on Bell the good lacy gyp I had only got one pup he was something else ruffer than a cob.  Done a family pure  breeding with Cracker to a gyp Mr Partin gave me turned out well and made I again dogs about right months old looking good.

So all in all just put putting along here.

From first Whitey cross .  He will dig a hog out the dirt. A buddy of mine has a couple these the same way.  His are more long range mine is med but can get long.  The crossed started out catchy but learn real fast after a few stiches what they can and cant catch and back off and bay. Very very fast type dogs can run with the wind.  They will get ruff on a runner.  I have seen none like the site yet when it comes to out right stopping a big hog He is gonna stop it catch it are due.
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q307/TexasHogDogs/0416161048a_zpspgqhkdv9.jpg) (http://s139.photobucket.com/user/TexasHogDogs/media/0416161048a_zpspgqhkdv9.jpg.html)

Just now getting my spurs dug in with these dogs the Cracker dog and my dogs.  I made the first crossed now Am adding and subtracting to find out where the sweet spot is.  The orignal crossed seen to do well with a few culls.  I beginning to find out you either got a jam up sum buck are you got a dog that wants nothing to do with a hog in the first crosses am lucky am on the plus side pretty big.  But now I made a new breeding and I added a 1/4 Horn to the mix more my ole blood + he added his Plott side his Daddy.  Pups are going on four months old.  Got a report last week , well I was on the phone with him and the pup climb into his bay pen while on the phone with me and started baying Lmao a pig three times his size matter of fact he sent the video of it lol.  Then a few day later another text message from another buddy and his way baying a pig.  Lol.  This was the very first liter Cracker threw anything but black & tans other than the one with Bell the Lacy one pup and he was the Buckskin Red. So adding Horn to the ticket aint looking to shabby right now.  Here is my pup I have no doubt he will do the same.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q307/TexasHogDogs/0318161039_zpspclxy3ki.jpg) (http://s139.photobucket.com/user/TexasHogDogs/media/0318161039_zpspclxy3ki.jpg.html)

Yessir that's exactly what I like damn fine looking dogs sir.

I like the looks of that pup in the pic Jimmy, fine looking dogs. I'm going to have to talk you into selling me one. I need something real hard on a runner.

Rednose, wish I had known.  I sold this one to a buddy.  No bark hog eating son of a gun and he is just no about two now.  His sister I sold to Chad my buddy is only about 40 lbs and she has been stopping boars they could not stop before he got her. She been cut and had her jaw broke ,  she got well after she broke her jaw and is back in business again.  Biggest boar to date she got slowed down long enff for help is 280 lbs got pics somewhere.  She been doing this since a year old.
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q307/TexasHogDogs/0125160938a_zpsmgbtozd7.jpg) (http://s139.photobucket.com/user/TexasHogDogs/media/0125160938a_zpsmgbtozd7.jpg.html)

I wish I would had known too, I sure do like the looks of him! What cross is he?

He is off of Champ a great CD x a gyp that is off Horn x Whitey.

(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q752/oconeeplotts/20151126_084335_zpsiwraubbw.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/oconeeplotts/media/20151126_084335_zpsiwraubbw.jpg.html)


Well there he is.  The sole representative of my breeding program.   Yep one ol' mangy mutt is all have to show for all my breeding talk.  Now saying I'm hard to please when it comes to the breeding pen would be an UNDERSTATEMENT!  I have found ONE female in 5 years I felt needed to be bred and I have bred her twice now.  The first litter was only 2 pups.  One cull and this dog.  The recent litter is to young to tell at this point.  Now where I got lost was were in the hell does one man come up with enough "breeding quality" females to make all the crosses you have made?  All I read is how good this dog is and how good that dog was but I'll just tell ya, good dogs don't come along like you suggest and if you think they do maybe you haven't seen "good."     

Looks like you got your program going in the right direction.  Thanks for starting anot her good topic.

LoL....If a man been hunting hogs and breeding his own dogs for 10-15 years got good friends hunting his dogs also and he ain't got 4-5 good bitches he can breed to.  He might want to find something else to do with his time. 

Good point.  I have problems with the "friends" part.  Surely by now you have noticed, I don't go out of my way to make friends.  Ha ha ha

Aw man aint no big deal hell everybody has their own way of thinking and doing things.  Where did you get your Plott dog from?  My ole Horn dog is half Plott from a ole buddy in Mississippi.  He is heavy bred Alabama Hammer on top and heavy bred Sizzling Heat on bottom.

Here is a pic of my old Plott dog he was a small dog with a lot of speed and silent on track thank God about 40 lbs but a damn good one he was about a year old in this pic.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q307/TexasHogDogs/mojo004.jpg) (http://s139.photobucket.com/user/TexasHogDogs/media/mojo004.jpg.html)

Nice looking Plott.  Man you sure have plenty of "damn good" dogs at you disposal.  That's what I'm striving for. 

Long time messing with them good family and good friends and a hell of a lot of hunting and work involved over the years.  You ain't gonna make no great dog are dogs sitting on your butt it don't matter how well bred they are, are who bred them.

Over the years the damnest thing is you can plan and plan on how you gonna breed this one are that one and the breeding u least expect turns out to be your best dogs!

That must be were I'm going wrong.  I don't make breeding I don't think will work.  I guess I over think it.  Had a breeder I look to pattern my program after (in ways) say once,  "NEVER breed any dog (sire or dam) you absolutely would not be completely comfortable duplicating."    That pretty much sums up my way of thinking.   I may miss on the crosses I least expect but I think I'LL stick to his advice.  Good luck

Don't get it wrong the males and gyps all worthy hog dogs . If we didn't think it was gonna work they would never get bred.

These two litter mates I breed few yrs back really turned out how I like a dog. And that's what I want a dog that fits me not Tom dick and Harry. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160417/43c21256f69fd8ce0181fd5f410f2b49.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160417/6f490ad3781b7fc9f11d78311b58c9b1.jpg)


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Good looking dogs Judge they got some legs on them. Ole black dig looks like he could get ruff.

Ya he can get rough be has learned to bay till cd hits. But if to much teeth go on a hog he will catch. That yella dog has some wheels and can run all day


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So that is what those bulldog crosses ended up looking like. Hows your buddy's dog I think he name was Reb turning out?

Hey Judge I remember a long time ago you posted that black dog and I really liked the looks of him then. At that time if I remember correct he was still coming on. I am glad to hear he made a dog for you.

Thanks he is doing real good he has been doing really good he has found a lot of hogs here lately.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Great lookin dogs judge! How much bulldog do they have in them? I'm assuming apbt?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Zero bulldog


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It didn't look like it, I was going off rednoses post, that black dog looks like a winner


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That first paragraph was for Jimmy not Judge hahahaha I should have addressed Jimmy by name in it.

I have not bred too many litters but ive bred a couple im aweful proud of.

First was a line breeding out of the best curr i owned, smoke. His pups are 2.5yrs and 1 is the best i currently own, he has been doing everything i need/want in a dog.
Smoke
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160418/e3905065d748abdacb4342e91724620c.jpg)
His pup slick
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160418/c2f1b48720211afe296db81b59a7c8ab.jpg)

Another litter im real happy with is an outcross between a littermate sister to my old smoke dog i called granny and a dog i got from djhogdogger named camo. I know that 4 out of the 5 pups are doing pretty durn good at a year old. I have 2 that combined have seen close to if not over 100 in the woods this year and are starting to snap, taking tracks on their own and getting more and more independent. A good friend of mine, joshstokley, has another that is going really real good too. We caught 2 with em yesterday. They are no rockstars yet but i think they all have the "want to" to be real solid dogs with another season under their belts.

Joshstokley with my "buddy" pup on the left and his "junior" pup on the right out of the granny x camo cross.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160418/ef1acf4bc2b1727aaa3c8bdc43009cee.jpg)

Justin them look like some old time bred dog.  Nice

Yes sir, they have been around quite a while. Appreciate it!

Mr. Jimmy   mike always talked the dog he got from you and I know he caught alot hogs behind it  if that tells you anything ocenee

Hogmantx.....Yeah ole Rambo turned into a hex of a dog for Mike.......There is more around.....Chad has three four really good ones,  Kelton got the Penny dog,  Matt had Horn Jr and ended up with Penny,  ole boy in Louisiana got Mo jo & the Steve dog both good dogs.        A buddy in Dayton got a gyp turned out real good then came back got another young gyp looking damn good and a couple young pups aint turned on yet.  Several more dogs went out also.  Of Course some pups did not turn out here and their just normal thing.  In my breeding I keep what I need and send the rest out...Anyway man thanks.

Believe me Hogman, this is a small world and I have heard all I need to hear about Jimmy and his dogs.  Ha ha ha ha

Oh Oconee.I'll tell you what I see,I see grown men who catch more hogs in a couple weeks time than you do all year having a discussion and some annoying little fly buzzing around our ears (that's you) that no one seems to be able to smack.Last I checked you don't catch enough hogs to even be part of this conversation you said yourself you catch15 a year.Maybe thats the reason you have a hard time stopping hogs.Your dogs haven't seen enough to know how to handle one.A 5 year old dog in your yard has only been on 75 hogs at best if he was on everyone you caught and to me that's just a well started dog.Hell if my program only produced a hog every month or so I'd feeding lead and startin over because obviously what I had going on wasn't workin.So you can sit on your computer and talk sh@t about everyone's dogs while we're actually tieing hogs.You and your yard are amateurs by your own numbers buddy.

Lol that's funny cracker he called me and told me son we tye more hogs then yall down there and we ain't got that many haha and my dogs were pot lickers hahaha all bull___t  aside all I can go off is what Jimmy told me on how his dogs hunted and what style they were and he hit the nail on the head Rambo and his daughter both are great dogs

Oconee is probly a good fella and has good dogs but he calls out every one that don't agree with him a idiot or downs there dogs and methods. It shows a lot of in security's and hate. My sister acts just like that come to find out she is bipolar so it might not be his fault guys go easy


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160420/678d46437f8d97716b501d8d26752bb6.jpg)

Sent from my LG-H443 using Tapatalk

It's the weather that's got y'all all flustered


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

:D:D:D:D

Spring fever and the moon gettin full making folks agitated, bunch of fence fighters! lol

Oconee is what you would
call a TROLL on the Internet, and you remedy that by not feeding the troll, he has told yall he gets his kicks by chit stirring, just ignore him, unless your enjoying the bickering, every time he gets on here it starts getting jerry springerish

The post said "you're best breeding to date" not "RCD hog doggers and the bay doggers that love to hate them" lol


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I have seen good things out of bubba dog. I been thinking on breeding him back to his momma or hunter back to her or might make the same breeding again not sure but I won't do it for another yr or two


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Cricket Cricket!

What is cricket cricket


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

deez b crickets...I hear they are tasty covered in chocolate...

https://www.google.com/search?q=black+field+cricket&biw=1536&bih=759&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZ3qe7lqHMAhWJ9R4KHQnBClYQ_AUIBigB