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Title: Hunting Alone
Post by: Bowtech99 on December 08, 2016, 07:09:55 pm
How many people hunt by themselves?

I've always hog hunted with at least 1 buddy. But i always had someone to go with me, but all my huntin buddies are married with kids, work too much, or dont care about hoggin. So pretty much just me and my dogs, any pointers on a one man hunting team?


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Pwilson_10 on December 08, 2016, 07:29:16 pm
Two good catch dogs and that's all u need any thing else is the same nothen to be worried about I hunt alone a lot


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Judge peel on December 08, 2016, 08:02:57 pm
Be careful take a back pack and have fun


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: liefalwepon on December 09, 2016, 12:47:56 am
I hunt alone all the time, no big deal till you kill a big one and have to pack it out


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Post by: justincorbell on December 09, 2016, 04:31:51 am
I hunt alone when no one else can go. Dont mind it at all. I hunt 2 dogs at a time and rarely use a bulldog. I enjoy bein in the woods by myself honestly, i learn way more about my dogs that way.

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Post by: DCHD14 on December 09, 2016, 03:23:00 pm
I agree Justin. I pay attention to my dogs a lot more and learn so much more about them. It's easier to do things 100% how you want them when your alone too lol I have  caught, cut and killed hogs by myself and it can get hairy sometimes but thats just hog hunting and part of why we love it.

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Post by: justincorbell on December 09, 2016, 04:42:59 pm
Yes sir, im not bashful to say that i dont carry when im alone, i rarely ever use it but im not too macho to say i dont have it


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Post by: justincorbell on December 09, 2016, 04:43:54 pm
I meant that i DO carry.

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Post by: DCHD14 on December 09, 2016, 08:11:39 pm
Yea man. I don't blame you. I'm not one of those guys that do but I have in the past. I don't like having the option cause with my bad aim id probably catch a dog and that's no good. I don't let guys I go with shoot either. I don't mind guys that carry going with me.

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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: joshg223 on December 09, 2016, 08:42:51 pm
I do it and have done it for years simply cause I hated hunting with a lot of dogs on the ground, and I could focus on mine and enjoy time with me and my dogs but I've been in some real binds by myself. Learned very quickly to start hauling 2 Bulldogs also.


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Slim9797 on December 09, 2016, 09:01:04 pm
Oh what a thread to see tonight... I go  by myself pretty often. Especially lately cause my main buddy is on recovery from knee surgery. Went solo tonight Got on a sure enough bad one I've been after for a long time. Finally got a bulldog hooked and it just took to long to get there(turned him from 50 yards) he was gassed after being caught for about 10 minutes and this hog was just too much for him. Boar Almost got a piece of me as I got to ride on his back for a couple seconds.  Then he tossed catch dog for good and packed his bags and left the country. Kicking myself in the ass cause if I'd have had a hand I think I'd have been posting pics of him. It got sketchy but it's the most satisfying feeling to get one caught and killed solo!


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: liefalwepon on December 09, 2016, 10:21:30 pm
Oh what a thread to see tonight... I go  by myself pretty often. Especially lately cause my main buddy is on recovery from knee surgery. Went solo tonight Got on a sure enough bad one I've been after for a long time. Finally got a bulldog hooked and it just took to long to get there(turned him from 50 yards) he was gassed after being caught for about 10 minutes and this hog was just too much for him. Boar Almost got a piece of me as I got to ride on his back for a couple seconds.  Then he tossed catch dog for good and packed his bags and left the country. Kicking myself in the ass cause if I'd have had a hand I think I'd have been posting pics of him. It got sketchy but it's the most satisfying feeling to get one caught and killed solo!


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You dont carry a gun?


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Bowtech99 on December 10, 2016, 07:31:36 am
Howcome 2 bulldogs?

I've always hunted 2 bay dogs and 1 catch. And at times 3 dogs in thick swamp was too much for 2 people let alone 1!
Kinda makes me want to hunt 1 bay and 1 catch.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: parker49 on December 10, 2016, 09:10:11 am
I hunted for years perty much by myself ........ I hunted hogs out of rice fields and I'd catch 20 or more a month by myself and tied all of em ...... if the  hog was small enuff I'd walk up snap the catchdog to a bush pull the hog away from him and tie it ....... my old jerry dog I could just slap him off   ....I used to break a switch and put it in my back pocket so when I threw the hog I could whip the dogs back off it  and make them  relay  on to another one ......anyway if you  tie hogs  one catchdog and a baydog or 2 you can slap back .....a  set of  handcuffs will get you out of a bind  quickly and always  keep some kind  of string balled  up in your pocket ..... I hunted  like that for years ....


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Slim9797 on December 10, 2016, 09:34:15 am
Liefal normally my .45 is on me at all times. However due to a recent altercation I got in, my mom won't let me leave town during the week with it in my truck. And I had just got back into town yesterday. Grabbed 2 dogs and went hunting. Didn't even think about my gun. If I'd have had it I'd have dumped the clip.


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Judge peel on December 10, 2016, 10:15:28 am
You shouldn't need two bull dogs. One good one is enough. One good bay dog and a cd can do the trick or two curs that catch and some rope


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: parker49 on December 10, 2016, 11:41:18 am
that's what I used judge for years I couldn't handle 2  cd's trying to tie the hogs by myself ......hey when I started using handcuffs on the bigger hogs  man that was  nice ....  I have  tied  some kickers  that nearly whipped me in the summertime ...might be why I have  a fib now  I been over  heated several times  tieing  one  in the summer ..... now I perty much stay at the buggy unless its close or feel like the walk.... you can sure train dogs hunt'n by yourself .....


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Reuben on December 10, 2016, 08:41:16 pm
Hunting alone one can really train the dogs to get the best out of them...

And pups...one can really see which are going to be the naturals and early starters...and that is an important part of a breeding program...

Bringing out the best in the dogs and having the time to to see the pups in the woods and watching to see how they work ...those are the two main reasons to hunt alone for me...


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: bignasty on December 10, 2016, 09:48:05 pm
Oh what a thread to see tonight... I go  by myself pretty often. Especially lately cause my main buddy is on recovery from knee surgery. Went solo tonight Got on a sure enough bad one I've been after for a long time. Finally got a bulldog hooked and it just took to long to get there(turned him from 50 yards) he was gassed after being caught for about 10 minutes and this hog was just too much for him. Boar Almost got a piece of me as I got to ride on his back for a couple seconds.  Then he tossed catch dog for good and packed his bags and left the country. Kicking myself in the ass cause if I'd have had a hand I think I'd have been posting pics of him. It got sketchy but it's the most satisfying feeling to get one caught and killed solo!


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took you 10 min to travel 50 yards?


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: bignasty on December 10, 2016, 09:57:03 pm
hunting alone,i use one rank bay dog one lead in catchdog and a piece of rope .i dont like using 2  baydogs because of split bays and no catch dog .beside i dont trust curs to hold when there tired and hurt as i do a bulldog like i have.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: l.h.cracker on December 10, 2016, 10:22:14 pm
Oh what a thread to see tonight... I go  by myself pretty often. Especially lately cause my main buddy is on recovery from knee surgery. Went solo tonight Got on a sure enough bad one I've been after for a long time. Finally got a bulldog hooked and it just took to long to get there(turned him from 50 yards) he was gassed after being caught for about 10 minutes and this hog was just too much for him. Boar Almost got a piece of me as I got to ride on his back for a couple seconds.  Then he tossed catch dog for good and packed his bags and left the country. Kicking myself in the ass cause if I'd have had a hand I think I'd have been posting pics of him. It got sketchy but it's the most satisfying feeling to get one caught and killed solo!

I was wondering the same thing 10 minutes for 50 yds?Riding his back?If my bulldog has a ear sucked up and let's go while I'm riding a hog lol than it's time to look for a new bulldog.Don't you grab a tail or leg rather than jump on a hogs back?If not that's what you you should try in the future it's much safer and easier to control the hog.Don't you carry a knife?Good story though keep at it.

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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: joshg223 on December 11, 2016, 09:15:19 am
One of the main reasons I carry two Bulldogs is more control on the hog and it's easier on the Bulldogs. One bulldog will take more punishment than two, and for me it is more of a pain to deal with two Bulldogs by yourself but I have been doing it for years without to many headaches.


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: parker49 on December 11, 2016, 09:32:25 am
if you stabbing hogs 2 cd's want matter but tying 200 pound boar with 2 bulldogs on it in a  bad  place ............hhhhmmmmmh .....


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Slim9797 on December 11, 2016, 10:37:42 am
bignasty, his den is in a probably 50 yard ring of bulldozed fallen cedar and  scrub brush. Only way to get in is climb over all this junk. It's not easy.


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Slim9797 on December 11, 2016, 10:44:31 am
We can sit here and run our mouths back and forth over what happen. Fact of the matter is it went down just like I'm saying it did. This bulldog has done everything I've ever asked of him and will die catching for us. This hog has been ran a lot more than your average hog. He's killed a couple dogs and whooped numerous cur dog asses. Yes it took me probably 10 minutes to make it the 50-75 yards to them. There's a reason I stay away from this corner of the ranch. It's bad news. And my gyp left the bulldog hanging. She stayed back and bayed and wouldn't help grab something. When the hog saw me he came with a purpose and almost left me laying there bleeding next to my dogs. After he tossed bulldog, late took him probably 3.5-4 miles and he busted out a big group of pigs and lost her


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Slim9797 on December 11, 2016, 10:54:46 am
And LH, if your gonna call me a lie just get a set of nuts and call me a liar. The school girl sarcastic retorts are played out.


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: joshg223 on December 11, 2016, 11:08:36 am
if you stabbing hogs 2 cd's want matter but tying 200 pound boar with 2 bulldogs on it in a  bad  place ............hhhhmmmmmh .....
I kill nearly all my hogs so that might be the difference.


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Judge peel on December 11, 2016, 11:27:49 am
There are many places I hunt that it might take you ten min to go 50 yards. But that is the time that u have to dig down deep and push forward. Rule number one never turn your cd loose to the hog if you can't get there fast or willing to die trying Cuz it won't work out. Rule number two always leg the hog over any other method unless your roping it. Rule number three always have a good story ether way lol


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: l.h.cracker on December 11, 2016, 01:04:07 pm
Lol that's right Peel.

 Slim don't get so upset I said it was a good story really exciting and all.Hopefully next rodeo your in we get to see the hog.


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Post by: DCHD14 on December 11, 2016, 05:06:17 pm
Lol I have "slid gratefully" down a steep bank at night and ended up right smack on top of the hog getting bayed... wasn't a bad SOB like you was in though slim. This was about a 150-175 lb boar and luckily he didn't have much hardware. When I "caught" so did the bay dogs. That was a hairy experience to say the least

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Title: Re:
Post by: DCHD14 on December 11, 2016, 05:06:33 pm
Gracefully

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Title: Re:
Post by: justincorbell on December 11, 2016, 05:21:24 pm
Shoot man dont beat yourself up, it happens to everyone! Chalk it up as a lesson learned and roll on, i dont care wgat anyone says...NO ONE catches every single hog they bay. Tip your hat to him this time and change things up on his ass next time.

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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Slim9797 on December 11, 2016, 07:51:45 pm
Oh I'm gonna be on his ass. He killed my pancho pup. I think he just gonna get a good baying from Kate and a 30-30 slug to the face


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Judge peel on December 11, 2016, 08:24:12 pm
If my dogs can't catch em I won't shoot him I want the dogs to get justice


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: parker49 on December 11, 2016, 08:49:30 pm
its not lions and tiger's  its hogs .....and they just really minding there own business trying to survive so if one gets the best of me and have  oh well its just more excitement when I go to that area again .... I have left bulldog dead called off my baydogs all cut up off and left  a boarhog standing and just walked out and loaded up and me with a rifle in my hand ...I remember somebody asked me why didn't you kill that bast2rd I said well he  didn't jump on us  we jumped on him ...... if he would have come out the woods and attacked I would have  shot him ..... its the game we play and I ain't never hated hogs  I love em ......


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Cmwhogger on December 11, 2016, 09:40:44 pm
I like that mr. Parker. Good philosophy. I don't carry guns. If the hog gets caught it's killed or tied. If it doesn't get caught then it'll live to fight another day. Beast vs beast in a way. To me shooting a hog is kind of taking the element of why I hunt out of the equation. With that being said there's also times I wish I did carry but it has never been to just kill a pig the dogs couldn't catch. I try not to hunt alone. We are far from any civilization or help if things go bad. Plus we always have dogs getting cut and holding and repair work solo isn't a walk in the park.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Slim9797 on December 12, 2016, 08:42:22 am
I hunt to see the dogs work. I don't hunt to catch hogs. Most places I hunt it's for the ranchers too cover their ass so they don't spend all their time fixing their fields.  If baying and shooting is gonna get him killed, that's what I'll do. And he's still gonna be the same nasty maverick boar with a 30-30 in his ear as he would be with a bulldog hanging off it.


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: bignasty on December 12, 2016, 09:20:14 am
Quote-i dont hunt to catch hogs, lmao

Slim just save yourself alot of dog food  money get out of the non hog catching dog business and get a tree stand. ;)


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Judge peel on December 12, 2016, 10:57:57 am
I don't understand why you would shoot the hog if you have dogs and a catch dog. That just don't make since to me like going out and shooting a bunch of hogs when your feeding hog dogs. Any one can shoot a animal the reason I have dogs is to let them get there glory and for me to get the satisfaction of training and working the dogs. That sometimes puts u in a bad way but that's the rush of the game. I will never leave a dog hanging if he puts in I will and I expect any one with me to do the same 


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Slim9797 on December 12, 2016, 04:16:44 pm
lol where's Justin Corbell at? See I told ya


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Cmwhogger on December 12, 2016, 04:36:04 pm
To each their own. I reckon if extermination is the motive then whatever it takes. I love shooting deer, turkey, and fur bearers, but if I was deer hunting and the biggest boar ive ever seen walked by I don't think I could shoot it. Not knocking anyone. Just throwing my opinion around.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Judge peel on December 12, 2016, 04:40:53 pm
Ya that's why I have hog dogs. For the chance you might catch him with your dogs but if you shoot him the game is over


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Cmwhogger on December 12, 2016, 04:45:04 pm
Agreed judge.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Bowtech99 on December 12, 2016, 08:46:55 pm
Boy this was fun reading thru! Good stuff in there fellas

I carry a gun, not to shoot the hog but for protection for me and my dogs. If things go south and me or my dogs are in danger, sorry but the hogs gonna go. Wether we started the fight or not im not going to lose a dog if i can help it.

My 2 cents ;)


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Cmwhogger on December 12, 2016, 08:52:37 pm
Yessir. Nothing wrong with carrying one. Not sure if I don't bc of pride or stupidity lol. Either way getting the dogs out alive is always first priority.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: ArtHenrey on December 12, 2016, 09:36:25 pm
Slim, if you know where he is staying keep fresh dogs on him. Start there first, stay as close to dogs as you can. He can be caught.
Hogs like him, to say. I've used  1 bay dog that was loose. And 2 sure nough catchdogs, middle of day when hog was asleep on strike an had a nice in full belly. Didn't run or fight like he done at night or early morning.


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: ArtHenrey on December 12, 2016, 09:39:25 pm
I hunt alone pretty often. Have understood my dogs a lot better that way


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Mr. Oinker on December 13, 2016, 10:55:16 am
I don't see anything wrong in shooting a pig that dogs bayed up. It doesn't take anything away from how good the strike dogs are at finding pigs and doesn't mean that they aren't hog dogs anymore. If you can get some big rank boars out of the woods and still enjoy having dogs that you put so much time and effort into working for ya, what's wrong with that? I guess I'm biased cause I mostly hunt my own land but I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a pig whether I'm hunting deer, turkey, or anything else. The only reason I'd save a big nasty pig is if I ever get these dogs going good enough to have a chance at placing in a tournament hunt.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Judge peel on December 13, 2016, 01:26:17 pm
Ain't nothing wrong with shooting one over your dogs. But if your main way is with a cd then it defeats the purpose of having a cd. I care nothing bout shooting a hog if I can hunt my dogs and catch. Some places u can't hunt with dogs so u trap or shoot I get that part


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Mr. Oinker on December 13, 2016, 02:36:49 pm
I gotcha Judge, I guess I'm just trying to get at the fact that it doesn't matter how you do it, a dead pig is the only kind of good pig there is. Slim, kill him any way you see fit cause in the end if you're happy with the kill that's all that matters.


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Post by: justincorbell on December 13, 2016, 08:26:23 pm
If i see a big nice hog i want to eat im gonna bust his/her ass if i can safely do it But unless im going to eat it it gets cut marked and turned out on the spot.

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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: l.h.cracker on December 13, 2016, 08:27:54 pm
I gotcha Judge, I guess I'm just trying to get at the fact that it doesn't matter how you do it, a dead pig is the only kind of good pig there is. Slim, kill him any way you see fit cause in the end if you're happy with the kill that's all that matters.

I have a ton of respect for my quarry.I kill hogs if I have to per landowners request but if I'm hunting my places in the woods I cut and release I'd rather manage then exterminate. If you're a real hog hunter and dog man why would you shoot a hog especially a big old bad boar.If you can't whip him with dog's then let someone else who can dog him for you.If a dead pigs the only good pig there is then you're the enemy to the great sport of hog dogging.When all the hogs are gone what are we going to do?


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Cmwhogger on December 13, 2016, 08:49:49 pm
I have hunted with guys who are good friends of mine who bay and shoot. It doesn't do it for me. I'd never knock em for that. I've seen them shoot hogs several times and watched the hog run and run. If you're hunting alone and don't get a good shot just seems like you're setting yourself up for an unnecessary bad day. Can't say I've seen a hog get knifed and live. Shooting a bayed pig seems unethical. Dogs near by, hog moving. To each their own. I hunt to watch the dogs get it done. Alone or with a team. If you're only intention is to kill a pig, Then by all means. I reckon if we was all the same this forum would get quite boring.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Slim9797 on December 13, 2016, 10:32:15 pm
When the ranchers say "get them gone or I call someone else" you get them gone any means necessary. Get caught cutting and releasing around here and your gonna loose all your country before sundown. 100% privately owned farm and ranch land is all I hunt.  Hunt no family land except for a 100 acre place that I have a bunch of neighbors.


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: jsh on December 14, 2016, 04:59:36 am
Well I guess I'm not a real hog hunter cause I will shoot a hog and at all times use two cds - guess I'm unethical as well.  I dog 95% of the hogs we hunt. I dog hunting alone - doesn't matter to me. I've caught plenty good rank boars on here like anyone else so just because I decide to shoot one means makes me or my dogs lesser hunters? Don't think so.

I raise everything from pups, cds too, have over $5k invested in a kennel/yard setup not to mention endless hours of care and training - so think about the investment in say a five year old dog. If I can prevent an accident with a fifty cent bullet, you dang right I'm shooting a pig - sow or boar. It's going to die anyway cause I don't catch and tie.   Like I said, it's 5% or less of the time. If I've got a pig bayed in January across the river and don't feel like swimming, shoot it and go on hunting some more. I've been there and done that and don't care to do it again if I don't have to.

As far as using two cds - we caught 9 hogs last Sunday am. Five were good size and had teeth. Had three cds..one had to stay in the buggy after boar number 3.  Now were down to two. Cut two cd in on a stud and he knocked the first cd out on her feet. I never seen anything like it before. She stood there stiffed legged and wide eyed staring into the sky. Good thing the other was there cause our strike dogs help and they went in as soon as she initiated contact. Now would we probably would have caught it without the second cd, but more than likely avoided some injuries by having the second catch dog there. 


Just a different perspective for y'all.  Besides - any of you that know me know that we always haul kids. We do this for them and to raise them in the woods, I have nothing to prove to anyone. A dead hog is a dead hog.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: l.h.cracker on December 14, 2016, 06:07:15 am
Maybe I'm wrong but shooting a hog and leaving it lay is unethical in my book.I have a good buddy who shoots hogs in front of his hounds all the time he lets his wife and kids shoot them at crossings but they clean process and eat them.Its not for me.Like I said earlier I hunt for a couple landowners that want the hogs killed so we kill them but to just shoot a hog across the river cause you don't want to get wet and move on ain't for me.To each their own I reckon but a hogs my favorite critter in the woods and I have way more respect for them than that.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: jsh on December 14, 2016, 06:42:16 am
LH - although I don't agree, I see your point and respect it. We have tons of hogs where we hunt, and if we don't kill them, someone else will. Like I said before, we are out there for the kids and to make better dogs, not manage the pig population. I have invited countless people along to gain some meat, but most can't get up early enough or want me to "hang" onto it a couple days for them. Piss on that.

Same could be said for shooting a trophy buck to hang on the wall. I don't think it's wrong, but people bypass does all the time to shoot the big one. I understand there are also management reasons, etc...I respect a big buck that has survived in a state that's littered with deer hunters. To lure them in with corn and shoot them from a blind is not my cup of tea, but again no worries to me as each his own.

I have a respect for cats. I would love to hunt a lion one day behind hounds, but know I could not shoot it out of the tree. I would get the enjoyment out of the dog work. Call me what you want, but I personally would have no need to kill that animal.

Enjoying the conversation....



Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: l.h.cracker on December 14, 2016, 07:31:55 am
    Jsh, Funny thing I feel the same way about a lion hunt or a bobcat hunt hell even Coyotes.When I was a kid I got a 16 ga single shot for my 8th birthday and me and my dog Pup went hunting around my grandparents farm everyday but the deal was everything I shot I ate.I lived off of Squirrel,rabbit,dove and quail for many years because that was my very favorite thing to do.I guess that has just stuck with me over the years.I love to fish and bow fishing is one of my favorites but I only target fish I plan on eating can't say I've ever shot a gar or a carp just not my style.I can't tell a grown man what to do or how to carry themselves but my children are all raised the same way if they're shooting at a buzzard they better be ready for buzzard stew for supper lol.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: parker49 on December 14, 2016, 09:03:02 am
most hog hunter's today is spoiled ...  I have seen em cleaned out I mean not a track for miles .......most people sing the song it takes to get em in the doors  they want to get in .....but  truth is  if you hog hunt with dogs  you don't hate em ....... and there could come a day when  you wished you hadn't killed all the ones  you just killed to kill ......  my grandpa told me one time son don't worry bout the man you see turning one loose its the ones that don't you worry about ... they on the take out  and will try and clean you out ....( old range wars )
 





























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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Mr. Oinker on December 14, 2016, 09:13:10 am
I gotcha Judge, I guess I'm just trying to get at the fact that it doesn't matter how you do it, a dead pig is the only kind of good pig there is. Slim, kill him any way you see fit cause in the end if you're happy with the kill that's all that matters.

If a dead pigs the only good pig there is then you're the enemy to the great sport of hog dogging.When all the hogs are gone what are we going to do?
Enemy to the sport? LH I'm not sure where you're from but if you are worried about ever running out of hogs move to my part of Texas. I'm gonna try to give you an insight into my views since you gave us yours about only killing what you can eat, which is a very respectable way to do things. My first responsibility is to my livestock. Pigs and predators are a nuisance to me. Pigs will tear up crops that feed livestock, root up holes for calves to step in and break their legs, tear up roads, etc. I both want and need to control and limit their populations. I don't want to exterminate them entirely and never in my lifetime could I. They breed too quickly and take over habitats. That being said, I love hunting and I love dogs so hunting with dogs is an awesome combination of both things. If I can use dogs to help control the pig numbers and help me do a job I already need to do while making it even more enjoyable (watching dogs work, hearing bays, etc.) that is even better. But I will never cut a pig and turn it back. A cut pig can still do just as much damage as it could before. I'm gonna kill pigs whether I have to bay them and catch them, bay and shoot, just shoot them, get in a helicopter and shoot them, trap and shoot them or sell them, whatever because it has to be done. I'm always gonna have pigs cause even though I kill more each year than I did the year before, more keep showing up in better numbers and bigger, meaner pigs. I'm all for getting meat if it is reasonable to do so but I wont lose sleep over killing a pig and leaving it. Of course all that is just my opinion and you don't have to agree because it doesn't make a difference to me.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: jsh on December 14, 2016, 11:15:02 am
I want to make something clear, I don't hate hogs, but I do value my dog's lives over theirs. 

I don't have worry about killing them all around here, nor do I want to. I've let plenty go to see another day.



Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Judge peel on December 14, 2016, 01:23:48 pm
Most spots I hunt the ranchers and farmers want them dead unless I tie it to sale so I do what they ask. But I won't start shooting em where I can run my dogs no matter what hog is there. Every hog can be caught with dogs if the opportunity spears. I know it's been said before but you have to match your dogs to be successful


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Slim9797 on December 14, 2016, 08:25:28 pm
haul my uncle brought in yesterday in an hour with just 2 curs and his .35 Remington. Depredation is the name of the game and time is of the essence in his line of work. Too many other things to do to spend 4 hours in the woods trying to get bulldog to hogs. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161215/902337a9eb029fe803dad939b06d72e0.jpg)


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: E barnes on December 15, 2016, 05:46:30 am
I gotcha Judge, I guess I'm just trying to get at the fact that it doesn't matter how you do it, a dead pig is the only kind of good pig there is. Slim, kill him any way you see fit cause in the end if you're happy with the kill that's all that matters.

If a dead pigs the only good pig there is then you're the enemy to the great sport of hog dogging.When all the hogs are gone what are we going to do?
Enemy to the sport? LH I'm not sure where you're from but if you are worried about ever running out of hogs move to my part of Texas. I'm gonna try to give you an insight into my views since you gave us yours about only killing what you can eat, which is a very respectable way to do things. My first responsibility is to my livestock. Pigs and predators are a nuisance to me. Pigs will tear up crops that feed livestock, root up holes for calves to step in and break their legs, tear up roads, etc. I both want and need to control and limit their populations. I don't want to exterminate them entirely and never in my lifetime could I. They breed too quickly and take over habitats. That being said, I love hunting and I love dogs so hunting with dogs is an awesome combination of both things. If I can use dogs to help control the pig numbers and help me do a job I already need to do while making it even more enjoyable (watching dogs work, hearing bays, etc.) that is even better. But I will never cut a pig and turn it back. A cut pig can still do just as much damage as it could before. I'm gonna kill pigs whether I have to bay them and catch them, bay and shoot, just shoot them, get in a helicopter and shoot them, trap and shoot them or sell them, whatever because it has to be done. I'm always gonna have pigs cause even though I kill more each year than I did the year before, more keep showing up in better numbers and bigger, meaner pigs. I'm all for getting meat if it is reasonable to do so but I wont lose sleep over killing a pig and leaving it. Of course all that is just my opinion and you don't have to agree because it doesn't make a difference to me.
Are you sure you are not and Arkansas Game warden!! Lol fella you don't love hunting you love killing!! Better get those Rose colored glasses off or you will spend a lot of time sitting on a bucket trying to figure out what happened because you won't listen to what Ole timers have seen before.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Slim9797 on December 15, 2016, 09:20:13 am
Y'all ought to see some video of Colby Lovell's dogs... you watch his dogs work, and tell me cause he don't use a bulldog, they ain't real hog dogs... that guys dogs will still drive sounders out of the woods.


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Judge peel on December 15, 2016, 09:52:25 am
That I would like to see. Slim if your uncle has such good dogs why do you search out other guys to get dogs. I would be in my uncles back pocket and copy what he is doing if I was you.


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: The Old Man on December 15, 2016, 09:58:59 am
I bet Mr. Lovell's dogs aren't snatchin, grabbing, and catchin, I bet they are where they should be backed up and barkin. I also bet he don't hurry to them when they bay.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: parker49 on December 15, 2016, 09:59:47 am
it kinda depends on where you come from .....some of us come from a line of old hog hunter's ( hog raiser's )we ain't gonna kill hogs like that unless it's  for meat ...... no skin off me long as  you are far away from me .......certain places  you do that and  you'd have flats , gut popped cattle ,    times are different now  but I remember the old days ...... and I remember the old timers and there stories about range wars .. I remember   a tell  about my daddy one time he went and bayed some hogs for a  man  that had a claim north of here .. the other's that hogs in that area  come to the bay cross the creek  they had words and one of them said i'll kill your dogs  daddy said wait just  a minute  he jumped the creek and his cousin had  to jump the creek and stop daddy from killin him was about to run his head into a tree ...some of the worse was kin people crossing range lines ..these  youngster's now days all cocky  hahahaha  them old timers would have  run them clean out the woods  ..  hey the hatfields and mc coys  started over hogs ...... hahahaaha (http://) my daddy a few years ago does he look like he's put  up with any bull .....


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: parker49 on December 15, 2016, 10:00:14 am
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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Mr. Oinker on December 15, 2016, 10:36:28 am
I gotcha Judge, I guess I'm just trying to get at the fact that it doesn't matter how you do it, a dead pig is the only kind of good pig there is. Slim, kill him any way you see fit cause in the end if you're happy with the kill that's all that matters.

If a dead pigs the only good pig there is then you're the enemy to the great sport of hog dogging.When all the hogs are gone what are we going to do?
Enemy to the sport? LH I'm not sure where you're from but if you are worried about ever running out of hogs move to my part of Texas. I'm gonna try to give you an insight into my views since you gave us yours about only killing what you can eat, which is a very respectable way to do things. My first responsibility is to my livestock. Pigs and predators are a nuisance to me. Pigs will tear up crops that feed livestock, root up holes for calves to step in and break their legs, tear up roads, etc. I both want and need to control and limit their populations. I don't want to exterminate them entirely and never in my lifetime could I. They breed too quickly and take over habitats. That being said, I love hunting and I love dogs so hunting with dogs is an awesome combination of both things. If I can use dogs to help control the pig numbers and help me do a job I already need to do while making it even more enjoyable (watching dogs work, hearing bays, etc.) that is even better. But I will never cut a pig and turn it back. A cut pig can still do just as much damage as it could before. I'm gonna kill pigs whether I have to bay them and catch them, bay and shoot, just shoot them, get in a helicopter and shoot them, trap and shoot them or sell them, whatever because it has to be done. I'm always gonna have pigs cause even though I kill more each year than I did the year before, more keep showing up in better numbers and bigger, meaner pigs. I'm all for getting meat if it is reasonable to do so but I wont lose sleep over killing a pig and leaving it. Of course all that is just my opinion and you don't have to agree because it doesn't make a difference to me.
Are you sure you are not and Arkansas Game warden!! Lol fella you don't love hunting you love killing!! Better get those Rose colored glasses off or you will spend a lot of time sitting on a bucket trying to figure out what happened because you won't listen to what Ole timers have seen before.
That's where you're wrong. I love hunting. Spot and stalking deer with my open sight 30-30. Calling predators and turkey. I also love the rush you get walking into a good bay and seeing dogs work a track and finally put it together but I don't have the luxury to only hunt one way. I have to try to limit pig numbers on my personal land any way I can. Which includes several different tactics. Any time we go run dogs on someone else's place who doesn't have livestock or crops we don't even bring guns. My grandpa took over his family ranch at 13 years old when his daddy died. He taught me to kill pigs cause it's necessary. He used to have sheep/cow dogs that would bay em up if one was around while gathering the stock and he'd shoot them off his horse with his brush gun. He was an old man with working dogs who taught me what I know. I'd say that's listening to what Ole timers have seen before.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: LoftinCattleCo on December 15, 2016, 10:51:16 am
(http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p784/LoftinCattleCo/801146C0-0C7F-426E-97DA-8C7DA67964F4_zpseqbsx8pd.jpg) (http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/LoftinCattleCo/media/801146C0-0C7F-426E-97DA-8C7DA67964F4_zpseqbsx8pd.jpg.html)

My grandpa and his brother about to butcher some barrs.. I come from a family of hog hunters not hog catchers, I still carry my grandpas mark if I don't tag them but dang sure don't carry em out unless I'm eating them or giving them to someone to eat.. I hunt alone some, especially when I'm trying to start some young dogs. I might have 2 dogs bayed and use a bulldog or might have 6 dogs bayed and use a bulldog just depends on how I feel about the situation. I might slip in there watch em bay and call them out if I think I'll get in to big of a bind.. Like Parker said it's hell in mid summer in a cutover trying to put a tie rope on something 200 lbs whipping fire from ya.. Lots of folks are in the sport for the stick of a big boar hog and to me that wasn't what this was founded on. I like to see a dog work whether it's 1 putting on a 6/8 hr race or taking a track that most dogs wouldn't even make a pass at.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: parker49 on December 15, 2016, 11:10:53 am
man I sure like that picture .... daddy use to watch and when the weather was good we'd kill and let em  hang   over night just where the dogs couldn't reach em .... man  a   lightered pine fire round an old barrel boil'n water and the  smell of an old scald barrel or tubb ... dammit  boy ..... I got a curly haired barr in the  pen now I may just scald him just to do it and make cracklins if I do i'll post some pictures .......I'm a hogman with all the land we own I don't have a cow but I got hogs  hahahahaha


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: LoftinCattleCo on December 15, 2016, 11:41:47 am
My great grandad, Curtis Barneycastle, Arthur Straham, and Jude Hart grazed 787-105 & 770-146.. Harts and Strahams had most everything on the south end of that and Barneycastle and Loftin's had most of the north end... I was fortunate enough to be able to hear the stories but all of those days were long before my time. I've got a  passel of barrs floating around that part of the country and my dad still has quite a few cows but the days of free grazing were stripped from us.. had it not been I believe I'd be signing my own paychecks everyday lol.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Slim9797 on December 15, 2016, 01:20:01 pm
Judge, My uncle doesn't have much left. Those 2 dogs are both over 10. I do however have a gyp from him right at 4 years old and she's damn nice so far. Most consistent dog I've gotten to see.  She gets bayed, you can take your time, she might bark 15-20 times a minute. If she's barking more than that the hogs fixing to break. She's. Ever seen a catch dog until my little screwed up solo hunt the other day. She's got some grit to her with a few scars to prove that. But she is smart when it comes to working hogs.


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Slim9797 on December 15, 2016, 01:22:17 pm
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161215/a8c7754d245b076315d4caf8d9661309.png) from Colby lovells facebook


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Slim9797 on December 15, 2016, 01:24:01 pm
From what my uncle said Those are real deal old blooded leopard curs Colby's  got.


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: parker49 on December 15, 2016, 02:12:12 pm
.my grandpa had wild horses and cattle and a few hundred head  of hogs on range ... I just  turned 50 I grew up right in the last of free range  here we had cattle running loose  ..when they would get out of the range I'd go bay em up start em headed home call my dogs and ride on ...they would all head  back  home ... we would feed em when they come in and they knew it ........ I used to ride for miles had a bulldog tied to the tail of my horse .. you could bay droves  of hogs  here.. I've  seen big  bunch's rally and come together  sound like thunder.....  you could be  at a bay and hear  something comin there would be a group coming to the bay and bunch up with the ones  bayed ....they don't much anymore hahaaha  bayed a group  cuple weeks ago and luckly broke em out and caught a good barr out the bunch


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: HIGHWATER KENNELS on December 15, 2016, 02:49:21 pm
Mr. Larry,, I wish my son would be able to see that more than what I have seen in the past 30 yrs of doin it myself.. Truth is,, it just don't happen around my parts anymore.. those old stories are slowly coming to a end and I don't believe we will ever get em back... I cant wait to get together with yall come Feb with that Wounded Warrior hunt and listen and learn things I don't even know now....lol... I will get with u closer to Mid Jan and we will finish planning it all out.. Yall take care..


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: smittysmith on December 15, 2016, 08:22:12 pm
Evidently there is a difference in how people where raised coming up. I was raised, If you kill it, you eat it. Don't make a damn what it is. Sounds like some fellas should find a different hobby other than hunting.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Cmwhogger on December 15, 2016, 08:51:18 pm
If you respect your game then you don't kill just to kill. When our freezers are full we give a lot of meat away. I couldn't live with myself to shoot something and leave it lay. If you're not prepared to do everything you can to retrieve the animal you set out for then don't bother them. It's one thing if a landowner needs pigs gone. Do what you have to do. I won't knock someone for doing things differently than me, but to shoot an animal and leave it lay is pretty daggum pathetic.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: parker49 on December 15, 2016, 08:55:03 pm
don't it seem like hogs would be the answer to world hunger problems hahahahaa


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Cmwhogger on December 15, 2016, 09:10:57 pm
Lol yeah and the Muslim problem too.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: jsh on December 16, 2016, 05:46:07 am
Smittysmith don't come on here and tell me I need to find another hobby and not raiseded right cause I don't do things the way you do. I'm not going to tell you what you need to do either. Like I said earlier, we killed nine hogs last Sunday, all were boars. I kept one 50 pounder the rest were not fit to eat. We killed 11 the weekend before that, we kept two of those. The rest were coyote food. Those people want them gone. Some of my other places, I manage differently and wouldn't get that many anyways. I don't have room at the house for 20 pigs number one.  Secondly I'm not hauling them out and taking the time to process them. To each his own.  I hunt one day a week, bust my butt working and raising kids the other six days and am not going to spend that entire day cleaning hogs.   So I'm supposed to keep my dogs from rolling off and stop catching hogs cause they are not going to get eaten? Pull my dogs off when they're caught and let it run away?  Catch a hog five minutes into a hunt and stop cause it's not getting eaten? I don't hunt to eat, if I did I would do it differently. And yea I guess I'll sit around and cry when they're all gone, but that's going to be a long while.








Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: jsh on December 16, 2016, 05:55:28 am
Hit the post button too soon.....

Anyways - I been on this website a long time. Read it every morning with my coffee and enjoy the pictures, conversations and learning new things from some of you.  What I don't enjoy is someone popping off about the way someone was raised or how pathetic they are for doing things a certain way.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Cmwhogger on December 16, 2016, 08:00:35 am
Maybe you should apply for a job at the Missouri department of conservation. All about wasting meat. A lot of needy families out there that could use the meat. I work 5-6 days a week and as a single dad I'm still not too lazy to take care of an animal I went out of my way to kill. You can't justify wasting meat.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: jsh on December 16, 2016, 08:19:32 am
 Yeah OK I'll do that, email me the application I'll get it filled out right away. Lot of needy families are a result of unfortunate circumstances and for that I can empathize. Most needy families are just too lazy to work, they can feed themselves.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Cmwhogger on December 16, 2016, 08:39:43 am
Maybe their too lazy to drag their kill out of the woods too. A lot of families are in poverty for many reasons other than lazy parents. If that's what you believe than that's you man.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Judge peel on December 16, 2016, 08:42:44 am
Cmw I got buddies who it means more to them to catch and or kill hogs. Really I don't get it. For some it is bout killing regardless the animal and for some it's bout the dogs the hog is just the outlet


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Judge peel on December 16, 2016, 08:46:43 am
Seems to me most lazy people are in charge of the ones that work just a observation. If you ever lost a good job and had to work for 7 bucks a hr to provide for your family the desire to work won't over come 7.50 a hr


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Pwilson_10 on December 16, 2016, 08:54:48 am
Slim I wish u could post that video of Colby lovell


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: cantexduck on December 16, 2016, 08:59:09 am
  What in the hell did I just read .....
     If you hunt to provide meat for your family , you must of failed economics class.  It is far cheaper to buy it at the store. Farm raised pork loin can be bought .95-1.27 a pound. You spend more in gas getting to your hunting spot then you would on 3 lbs of pork. We all hunt because we like to. I kill things all the time that I don't eat. to criticize another hunter because they don't keep the meat or tie up hogs is absurd.
      I can not remember the last time I cleaned a hog to eat myself. Do to other obligations I no longer dog hunt much but i still shoot a few hogs every couple of weeks. They tend to mess up my feeders and root where they shouldn't be. Is that wrong ?
      


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Pwilson_10 on December 16, 2016, 09:24:45 am
Y did this post go to this I like talking about hunting alone some one needs to delete this number 2 worry about what u do instead of what every one else is doing life will be a lot easyer


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: jsh on December 16, 2016, 09:33:51 am
Cause some of us are tired of people running their mouths on here, that's why. You don't like it - don't read it boy.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Slim9797 on December 16, 2016, 04:15:14 pm
https://vimeo.com/196025512 (https://vimeo.com/196025512)
https://vimeo.com/196025613 (https://vimeo.com/196025613)
Both videos from Mr lovells Facebook page.


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Bowtech99 on December 16, 2016, 04:48:27 pm
All because wanted to learn how some people hunt alone haha!


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Pwilson_10 on December 16, 2016, 05:00:23 pm
Man slim that's awesome I wish I was with ol Lovell that day


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Slim9797 on December 16, 2016, 07:48:21 pm
Pwilson him and his crew do some crazy stuff! Sneak into bays and jump on top of the hogs back, running boars down on horse back and stretching him out like a roping steers, roping sows off the ranger. He's got some cool footage


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: The Old Man on December 16, 2016, 10:38:34 pm
Those dogs are "old time Cur dogs" you could drive some hogs with. Good videos.


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Pwilson_10 on December 16, 2016, 11:32:52 pm
Slim ya I roped hogs before never jumped on there back tho hahahahha


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Judge peel on December 17, 2016, 04:16:15 am
Nice video of dogs baying.


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Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: Melonhead on January 03, 2017, 06:52:46 pm
hunt alone 2-3 nights a week - have more fun and my dogs seem to do better when it's just me and them


Title: Re: Hunting Alone
Post by: warrent423 on January 07, 2017, 02:24:04 pm
Have always enjoyed hunting alone and is pretty much all I do these days. One, maybe two good rough cur dogs, a pocket knife, and some rope or mule tape. Keep my freezer full, cut, mark, and turn loose the rest. Don't have any respect for anyone who kills them and lets them lay, regardless of their reasons ;) To each their own.