EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

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Lawanda

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Tamesha

I've got pretty high hopes for this pair of gyps.

Mighty fine lookin' pups... how are they bred?

Out of my black male dog and a gyp of Matt Bitticks.Theyll be grandpups to Festus (Hillhouse) on the sire, the dam is out some of the martins dogs in coldspring.

Nice looking pups.

They oughta make some good ones... good luck with them.

Good looking pups hope they turn out for you

Lookin real good .. please keep us posted on their progress

Just by factoring in the breeding and some previous litters I bred similar, being gyps they should start at a decent age, hunt exceptionally deep, good bottom, but this breeding being an outcross id like to see them bay a little better than my normal dogs, and possibly take a touch of the nose away from them and pick their head up to move a hog... It lights a fire under me to see a dog run with its head down and it seems like that's what I've ended up with 50/50 on the last few batches I've raised.

Fine looking pups

Nice pups


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Thanks men, I appreciate it.

Sure hope they turn out and make some hog dogs for you...they sure look good!

I'm not being a smartass , and I hope no one chimes in trying to prove a point .
What's the reason you don't like a dog with it's head down ? Is it because on hot sign they're pushing the track too slow giving the hog a bigger gap between them ..vs a dog that is twigging ?

Thanks

I likem!! Holler at me i lost my phone and my contacts.

I hear ya on that, gotta love a dog that pushes a track with its head up. Sure are fine looking pups, I like their names too.

Chris it just seems to me that the dogs I have that move a hog off the track after they get one up and running are not even comparable for speed as the dogs that will pick their head up and run the funnel.. A hog can trot all day put something behind him that can blow him up and he'all stop and bay.

Man it's just personal preference for the country you hunt the way I see it, thank ya sir.

Good deal Mr.Loftin I hope they develop into everything your looking for .
I love their names too by the way .

Take care

Thanks Chris, and I don't believe every dog that moves a hog with their head down is slow their is some that have the ability to really stretch out with their head down, but that's not the exact case with mine... For instance Clyde and Fletcher(RIP) have all day bottom but only avg 5/6 mph after they are running and when you check a track where they crossed the road they are track for track with the hog, where as some of the others that will pick their head up will cross 10-15' either side of the track and avg 7/9 mph in thick woods may not have the bottom the other 2 have but they can make the hog sprint rather than trot so it seems like I tie more hogs behind the others rather than I did with Clyde and Fletcher.... I may be wrong about the whole deal but this is the best theory and solution I could draw up from watching this particular group of dogs work.

first good looking pups .....and I do like black dogs  ;D  .....  I  think  its  all something to think about on the heads up  running  and common since would make  you think that the dog running with his head  up has better vision and  could move a  track faster .... .....no matter how the dog does it simple fact is if a  dog can make a hog get out that trot he'll blow the air  out of him and the hog will have  to find a place to fight or get caught ......  some dogs edge  is they don't make  many looses ..... some dogs edge  is experience  in running hogs  in certain types of country ......  but  I would say dogs that pull there heads up even 8  to 10 inches off the ground on  a running track  have an advantage to  move it faster ...... hahahahahaha with all the dog knowledge we all have ... we  ALL get out run  fairly regular  ;D

Parker you are 100% correct!! Thank ya sir I'm pretty partial to a black dog or Black and Tan.. ol tamesha is the first liver and Tan I've had or seen in a hot minute.

Loftin,
Your on track a dog that runs a hog with his head up is usually a lot faster and make the hog bay a lot sooner.
PM me sometime I hunt with some guys you use to work with and I'm on a couple leases in your area.