EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller on Tuesday will announce approval of a new weapon in the ongoing war against feral hogs in Texas.

Miller has approved a rule change in the Texas Administrative Code that classifies a new warfarin-based product as a state-limited-use pesticide for control of feral hogs. State-limited-use pesticides may only be bought and used by a licensed applicator or someone under the direct supervision of a licensed applicator. The pesticide, “Kaput Feral Hog Lure,” is the first toxicant to be listed specifically for use in controlling the feral hog population.

“Wild hogs have caused extensive damage to Texas lands and loss of income for many, many years,” Miller said in a news release. “I am pleased to announce that the ‘feral hog apocalypse' may be within Texans’ reach with the introduction of Kaput’s hog lure.”





Introducing warfarin as the first pesticide available to control the feral hog population is significant because it gives agriculture producers and landowners in Texas a new weapon in the fight against feral hogs with minimal risk to other animals. According to experts familiar with the issue, warfarin is a logical choice for hog toxicant, because it is effective in swine but requires much higher dosage levels to potentially affect other wildlife populations or livestock. The Texas A&M Agrilife Extension Service is supportive of the rule change and the use of warfarin for feral hog population control.

Miller has informed the Legislature that $900,000 in TDA’s budget previously earmarked for feral hog control research will no longer be necessary as a result of this rule change and has asked that the appropriation be removed from the current TDA budget pending before the Legislature.

The manufacturer of the product, Scimetrics Ltd. Corp., has been manufacturing rodent management products for 15 years. Extensive testing of warfarin has been conducted in Texas since 2008. The approval of warfarin for feral hog control is the culmination of several years of research in partnership with Scimetrics and TDA. A representative from Scimetrics will also be on hand to take questions regarding the product.

My wife was telling me about as well...I hate to hear that...

These FOOLS in Louisiana are doing it too.

Is this a poison that kills the hogs or makes them sterile?

Kills them and marks the hogs poisoned by way of blue die in the bait... turns their fat bright blue.


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anything that kills hogs bound to kill other animals ...... 

There was a fella awhile back on here that posted a hog that was caught that was blue on the inside..


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By law you must follow the label... Label says that you must remove livestock, and they can't return for 90 after you remove the poison.  It also states that you must bury the dead hogs at least 18" below the surface of the ground.   Don't see that being feasible. 
 Also states that you must look for signs of other animals dying from it.  Obviously there is risk

It won't last long just hope hey don't do it we're I hunt


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This is one time I would like to see the animal rights activist to get involved... :)

I heard today it is $200 for a 40 pound bag takes 6 pounds to kill a hog sounds like a lot of money to me to kill some hogs

So 6lbs to kill one... they have to eat it (however much) 4-5 days in a row, and $200 worth will only feed 6lbs worth, to a hair over 6 pigs in one feeding. Let's say the pigs eat 2lbs per day that's 6lbs in 3 days that's 5 pigs, 2lbs a day, for 4 days to get 40lbs. $200 to "possibly" kill 5 pigs if one doesn't over eat. It will take a well off man to kill a sounder, and a rich man to eliminate the majority of pigs from his place


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Started the math one way and changed my direction and didn't edit... apologies, but you get the idea lol


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a lot of this mess has come from government grants to conduct studies at colleges.....after so many years of studies they got to produce  something I guess ....maybe trump will cut out a lot of this wasted tax money .......

No it's not being used in the state of Louisiana, our Wildlife and Fisheries commission voted against the use of this toxicant in our state after reading the reports the feral hog task force submitted to them and our state legislature...


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Smart people in La. I may have to travel to La to hunt because I am not hunting in any area that puts it out if I can find out where it is used! If you are a restricted use pestice license holder (most farmers and ranchers in Texas are) they an put it out and no one will know where and when.

Hot dog y'all got someone to listen in La? We got uncle ted standing with Sid miller on this BS in Texas. Something tells me someone is receiving nice healthy donations to push this product through.


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Not just someone to listen... a task force. LHHA (Louisiana Hog Hunters Association) along with the Department of Agriculture and Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries developed a task force to deal with the hog problems. Goose, correct me if I'm wrong... This task force was suggested by our founders and top tier LHHA members and agreed upon by the state and federal agencies. State agencies, BLM, federal agencies and common folk (LHHA reps) all have a seat on this task force to discuss and solve the hog issues, with input from everyone... WLF agents, farmers, biologists, etc. There are goals that the task force has to hit, or the taskforce will lose its grants and the program will sunset, and fade away. I will be renewing my membership in March. LHHA and the taskforce are fighting a good fight, not only with this poison, but with our state and federal land hunting regulations.

Someone is definitely pushing this issue because at our January meeting of the task force the Information about this product was waiting in our packets when we all sat down at the table and our LDWF state veterinarian along with several state biologists were floored to see something like this was pushed through the ringer so fast, we (as in the LHHA ) got a House Bill formed last year to create this task force and in the verbiage of the bill it clearly states that as long as the task force is in existence that LHHA has a seat on it, we have a seat, QDMA, the Land Owners Assoc., the Levee Board, LDAF, Farm Bureau and several other organizations all have a seat on this task force along with the states veterinarian and several biologist from research stations across our state, also in the verbiage of the bill it states that the task force must consider and look into Hunter based solutions, I'm not sure if it will be passed or not but in the same report we sent to state legislature and the LDWF commission that was against the toxicant warfarin and got it thrown out the window for now there was request to open more of the states WMA's up to hog dog hunting and to extend the seasons on a few that already have seasons,  what the plus side to this is it wasn't me who made the request it was a biologist from one of our research stations and the guy from QDMA, if our association hasn't done anything else we have definitely started building a healthy working relationship with the officials and LDWF in our state, if you haven't already joined now would be the time to do so....


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 ..... https://www.legis.la.gov/legis/ViewDocument.aspx?d=984061.........this was on a news channel ....The LSU AgCenter said its focus right now is poisoning the hogs because researchers believe it is more effective and less expensive.

"Hunting them can't kill enough to really make a dent," LSU AgCenter animal science researcher Glen Gentry said
   tell me how  your task force helps hog hunter's ?   

I tell you what Mr. Larry I'll invite you to our next one and you can see for yourself since your so skeptical about everything, the Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries commission, the commission who regulates our hunting as well as the LDWF both unanimously agreed that the toxicant based with warfarin would not be used in our state and if it were ever to be used there would be stringent research done on it, now the sodium nitrate toxicant is a different story and we will more than likely see that in the future...

This is a legitimate sincere open invitation to attend the Task force's next meeting just so you can see and hear with your own eyes and ears how much Hunter based solutions are discussed. It's real easy to constantly complain about something and to be negative  on a private forum, come on out and voice your concerns to someone in person, and in case you want to know what the Task Force is doing for hog hunters just look at our neighboring states, Alabama, Mississippi, Missouri, and Tennessee, go look up what their regulations are concerning hog hunting in general and then you will see how this task force is going to benefit us in the long run....


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And can you please repost the link to the article you posted because it won't pull up...


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hey I just asked what does the task force do for us  hog hunters ?  the facebook page for the task force  perty much  every article  is  for doing away with hogs in the wild ......if the hogs where killed out of the wma's would the  task force  be for  putting some back ?  this is a discussion board and  if you gonna premote this  stuff I just don't see where this task force  is  for  hog dog hunter's .......now more  days to hunt wma's  yes ......  but as soon as they come up with a poison they'll shut the wma hunts  down  and  you know it .......  ya'll would hate  for me  to be at a meeting .... I don't talk out both sides  my mouth ....... truth is there is more people like the hogs than don't even though they may complain about em .... been around it all my life ...... seems like you may be the public acceptance part of the force ..... I have  nothing against  your lhha as  I can see ...

Press Release
Texas Hog Hunters Association
March 2, 2017


This afternoon, State District Judge Jan Soifer issued a temporary restraining order enjoining Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller and the Texas Department of Agriculture from implementing the “emergency rule” that they had issued to try to facilitate the use of rat poison across Texas lands for feral hogs. Specifically, Judge Soifer’s Order stated in part that Defendants Sid Miller and the Department “did not follow the requirements of the Texas Administrative Procedure Act . . . and so therefore the rule is invalid.”

The Plaintiff in the case was Wild Boar Meats, L.L.C, a feral-hog processing business headquartered in Hubbard, Texas. The Texas Hog Hunters Association (THHA) and the Environmental Defense Fund also intervened in the case on the side of Wild Boar Meats.

Eydin Hanson, Vice President of THHA, said “15,000 members and supporters of THHA have signed a petition against this ill-advised rule. Spreading rat poison across Texas lands would hurt Texas hunters, Texas hunting-supply businesses, Texas feral-hog meat processing businesses, Texas ranchers, and the Texas environment. We are very grateful that Judge Soifer ruled in our favor. We hope that Commissioner Miller will now follow the law and allow public comment and careful consideration before proposing use of any poison on feral hogs. The emergency rule would have damaged feral-hog control in Texas rather than helping it. We urge all Texans to contact their elected representatives to make sure that Texas lands are not poisoned in this manner.”

Great news!!

That blue fat pig was in California  i believe.  Its on my old phone if i find it ill post it...

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