EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Checked the calendar just the other day. Thought I had a few more days left to get prepped for pups, but as luck would have it, she pushed them out with the cold front. Woke up this morning to 8 new leopard pups out of My ole Sketch bitch. Bred right and bred right. Hopefully they’ll be worth something. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201016/45ff57dfd8d40c88807c248d513bf2b1.jpg)
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They're painted up real nice.

My money is on the brindle one.  Nice looking pups.

My money is on the black one... hahahaha!

Good looking pups Slim.

No love for the painted ones I see  ;D

I’m gonna take the leopard gyp every time when it comes to these dogs!  Thanks guys. I am pumped. If anyone is interested in them get with me. I’m gonna have to get em gone pretty quick after weaning. We are in full swing deer season on the ranch and I don’t need 8 extra dogs running around. Not sure on M/F yet but there will be some males i will look to get in to a hunting home.


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Good looking puppies hope they turn out for you

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Right colors for sure. Good luck with them bud.

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Thomas, on the daddy’s top side These go back to those same leopard dogs old man Woodward and them guys started off those dough belly dogs.


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Yeah I've been kicking this around pretty heavy. Your pups would be an out cross for me with the distant kinship that you spoke of. I give you a holla this afternoon hopefully. The youngest boy has a baseball tournament this weekend. Those dogs you speak of were really nice dogs. They were high percentage dogs that were very well rounded, in my opinion. I have a feeling your gonna like this litter a lot.

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Thomas, I don’t know if my dang Messages on this app ever send. 979-505-6285 holler at me whenever

Good looking pups.


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3 weeks old. Healthy and getting around good. Starting to see a little spunk and personality.

(The plastic tote has got to be the best idea I’ve ever had when it comes to dogs. Works awesome for raising pups)

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They sure are purdy

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Pups are lookin good Slim. Keep up the good work man.


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Slim that’s what most of my dog houses are, the IBC plastic totes, I’ve got one attached to a set of kennels that I raise pups in, I took some 4x4 wooden blocks and screwed them close to the corners as I could and fastened 2x4s to the tops of the blocks to create a 4 inch rail all the way around  bottom of the house to prevent any pups from being mashed...

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Got em pretty much all the way weaned. CRC came and picked up his male this past weekend. We were both really excited to get one of these pups back on his yard. He was responsible for breeding sketch 5 years ago or so and had a bad run last year and lost both her mom and dad.
  Everybody else should be headed this way sometime this week to get theirs, and after that I’m waiting on deer season to be over with. Picked up 25k acres about 8 minutes from my front door. I’m ready to get back after it. Last round we made was on September 27th.

That is a GREAT looking set of puppies!  If they hunt half as good as they look you'll be in business!

Slim, they for sure look good. The build of that dark leopard pup is super nice.


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T-Dog that’s my pick of the litter. Got her sitting shotgun right now headed back from the gin picking up cottonseed


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Lol that’s awesome


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They’re working these days. 2 males and 3 females doing really good and another male trying to turn on. 1 male and 1 female on cows and rest on hogs right now.


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Well you have to count that next generation a sucess, glad they turned out for you.

Colton those pups must be built more similar to the sire? They look like they have a little more body than ole Sketch. I’m glad they’re working for you.


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They’re looking good Slim, have you been doing much hunting lately? I believe I saw you post about working out of town a lot


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Great job looking awesome enjoy em


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These pups daddy is an own son of sketch’s from her first litter. They go back to her on both sides lol. Line breeding if it works.


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No sir. Haven’t hunted since I was home in December. Got 2 of my buddies keeping things going while I’m away. I am in Knoxville Tn right now. 994 miles from my home in college station. Me about 1100 from my dog pens.


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I remember that now that you said it. Funny how things revert back. Genetics are crazy


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Tracker has made a dog down in Kennedy county for my buddy Nathan, here’s a recent pic from him. SJ is right up the road in Wilson county making a hand on cows.
 To my knowledge the rest of litter number 2 has been killed off. Litter number 3 has 3 left alive. They’re all on cows. Ones in Willow Springs, Tx working for Fritsch Cattle Company. 2 are down in the Valley out of Hebbronville working on the East Foundation as cowdogs.

   Litter number 1 has 3 still alive. 2 are cow dogs. A male and female. Brian Adams in Lexington has Scooby and the Clay Iselt has Tiggy around Giddings, and If you’re ever at La Grange or Round Top farm and Ranch and you see a real pretty yella gyp lounging around the store. That is the owners gyp and she is a truck dog. He used to hunt her daddies line of dogs back years ago with my uncle.
Gonna try and get some current pics of all these dogs.
And the best news of all is it looks like sketch finally took again and we’re looking like I’ll have a litter on the ground around may 10. Fingers crossed whatever she has is healthy, she can raise them all, and we can get em to their 2 year old year to finally see just how good they can be on hogs. Time now to HURRY UP AND WAIT.


 


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Good luck bud. You’re due for some good luck.


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Walked out the house this morning to smoke rolling out the kennels. Sketch dropped some heat the the pressure change last night. 61 days since first tie. Had just spit out number 8 or so when I left for work.


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Well they have good color. I hope they have good instincts too.


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Finally got to go put my hands on Tracker. He is his mommas son through and through. Unfortunately weather didn’t allow for a hunt but we’re gonna get his momma and him together when she gets back in the woods from having these pups. Had to take Shaw down to Nathan who has tracker and pick up my gyp pup from him. He’s got a some dogs go back pretty deep to The Mellmans stock.  (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230509/7c185e58c07811d3d1d24d2dd2769ddc.jpg)
She’s sharp as a tack and pays attention to everything. She went to work with me today. Got to ride and doctor yearlings with me and was chained up behind me at the chute while processing. Had 400 lb yearlings stepping all over the top of her and never flinched. I’m starting back from square one but I am about to build me another set of dogs for next year between her and sketch’s litter.


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Mellman stock is a solid line of dogs. Can be real goofy if they change hands more than once or twice, but they’ve got nose and bottom for sure, hardly any grit unless crossed over something else.

He has her parents(she’s off a father x daughter cross) and they are pretty nice. His dogs and mine did real good for us when we was hunting together. Was more than happy when he offered one. Their kind of bottom will get you in trouble if you aren’t careful. Atleast in my area where big acreage is all but a thing of the past.  They get a mile out of your permission around here they could be 8 places over.


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Hope they turn out for you

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I’ve seen some dogs with that blood pull some hogs straight outta their butts when the hunt was about over with. We hunted hard all day and couldn’t move anything, then all of a sudden she decided to cold trail off some tracks that were there that morning and bayed a good boar in his bed alil over a mile away and we stayed in hogs with the relaying. I’ve also seen the bottom you’re talking about, it’s something I require in my dogs, or at least use to, now I could care less to run one 4 plus hours, much less from daylight to dark.

Yes sir. I am of a similar opinion just because we are fortunate enough these days to have a decent hog population in a lot of the country were running now.

Love catching the hard to catch ones, and we can get it done at times, but sometimes the numbers and getting a little bit easier hogs caught does more for young dogs I feel, and the country is just getting harder to have those no quit, take them as far as they want to kind of dogs.


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I’m not gonna quit having those stay put, do what it takes types. Places have gotten smaller and will continue to. Technology though has improved and so if my dogs get on a place they shouldn’t be or gonna get into trouble, I’ll mash that tone button and reel them in. If this president gets his way it won’t matter for any of us if we have a 5 minute or five hour dog. This country is doing its best to become third world like. My nephew and several more officers were in a gun fight last night trying to execute a search warrant. The suspect and another officer were both killed. Makes hog dogs seem pretty irrelevant in a sense. I say this not to high jack the thread, but just to feed into the insanity out there and we gotta be careful especially if we find ourselves somewhere we might or might not be 100% ok being. If you don’t have a handle on your dogs it’s probably a good idea to change that if for nothing else but the safety of us and our dogs.


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make sure deputy dawg keeps his head down.....the crazies aint worth it!

I second that….

The world is becoming a much smaller place.

The ‘great wide open’ has shrunken into the ‘good few private’.

I’m glad the deputy dawg came out unscathed but feel for the family of his brother!

I had little experience with hunting with some them mellmans, they will get you in a bind lol. Really good dogs tho, in todays world probably better as a outcross unless your ‘freedom rings’ cause the can get gone

And yeah… the crazies ain’t worth it. I see it every day…

Good luck with the pups slim. If the work as pretty as they look and follow in their progenitors steps you arta be set up good.

We certainly aren’t shortening our dogs up any and I swear by the tone button and having dogs who understand what it means. That’s one of my biggest things about the mentality I want my dogs to have. Need to be focused on the hog and the task at hand, but also keep their Witt’s about them enough to sense all the other things going on around them. Such as me crawling in there and setting up for a shot over them, or toning them out because they’re somewhere we can’t go do our part for them.

 We have done our part to make sure we have good relationships with land owners, and a good reputation as young men in the community in general. The day before a hunt I am liable to make 10 different phone calls to people to let them know we’re in the area. Seems these days as small town kids who have done some growing up we find people that used to turn us away in highschool, now calling, asking us if we can come put some pressure on the hogs.

Around the precon yard I manage here, I have over 4k acres blocked up, it is probably somewhere between 20-30 land owners. It’s a lot of work to make sure you communicate with that many people effectively enough to stay in good graces with everyone, but if we don’t do it. We’d be sitting at home wishing we had somewhere to go.

I guess what I meant by my above post was in country with enough hogs, if you’re simply trying to get young dogs kicked on and going the right direction. Understanding what we’re asking of them, I’d have to say I feel a caught hog, and further more multiple in a day or short time frame, can do more for a young dog, than catching one or 2 a week at the end of mile(s) long races. We know what our seasoned dogs are capable of and love when they go and remind us and we get to latch hold of a good hog after a long race, just feels like sometimes we didn’t accomplish as much when the dust settles if the year old pups got left behind or fell out half way through and didn’t get to see it from start to end. Once you get them sure enough going and they flip that switch. Then comes the fun part “how good are you?”

I am still after a kennel full of “you hear them bark, we’re gonna see the meat at the end” dogs.  Hopefully this cross is another step towards that.

As for the shooting Thomas, I saw the headlines when I woke up for work this am. Heart breaking. I know Dillion through mutual friends/acquaintances. I love a good small town LEO who is out there for the right reasons, he sure seems like one. Hate he had to be apart of an event like that. Everyday it’s another headline make me truly think I won’t ever have kids. I can’t hardly stand this world anymore. Certainly not anything I want to bring children of mine in to. Not a world where I don’t even think I can protect them from someone who wishes to do them harm.

  I just wish everyone would leave everyone the heck alone. As long as you arent taking from or hurting someone else, I don’t care what you do. Don’t shove your beliefs and opinions in my face and I promise not to shove mine on you. Even if I think mine are better lol.

Thank you sir. She had 10 and we are down to 8. Runt didn’t make it through the first night and there was a 2nd that was about 2/3 the size of the others that expired yesterday. Really sucked. For first time, ignorantly, I made the brainless decision to grab a bale of shavings from the horse barn at work and put it in her welping pen. I think it is what cost me for sure the 2nd one if not both. Beat myself up pretty good after fighting for an hour to keep the 2nd alive. Not forsure it’s what happened, but sketch is a great mom so either she knew something was up and they weren’t viable, or I made a mistake with the shavings. 39 pups now and knock on wood she’s gonna wean 37 of them if these 8 make it.

Sadly I’m a huge gyp man. I’ve gotten along with them better, they’ve made the better dogs in this blood it seems, and I just always seemed to pick them. The litter was split at 5 and 5 and both she lost were females. The remaining 3 ain’t leaving, and looks like we’re keeping some males for ourselves too instead of sending them to buddies and other dog men we foster relationships with to really test these dogs. Part of it, but sucks none the less.


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Here they are. 2nd pic is whats left. Freaking shavings. What was I thinking.


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I agree on all points. It is getting harder and harder finding places to run these Plotts and other long range dogs. Tritronics and Garmen have brought dog training to a whole new level. I myself do not know why anyone would want to be in law enforcement in todays world when it seems so many hate groups are putting a target on them. That being said coming from a family that has several law enforcement people in it, and friends,  I have the utmost respect and admiration for them.
  Slim those are some pretty pups.

Nice looking pups, I had a mother and daughter that I raised 4 litters off and never lost a pup. A good brood bitch is worth her wt. in gold. I was running different dogs before that with bad mom's and it just sucked to have to worry and fuss with them. I have never used shavings till they are older. Always used blankets and changed them regular. I put a 2x4 on edge about 3" above the floor so the momma couldn't squish one against the wall. Good luck with these pups Slim.

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This is a whelping box I built for a buddy. It’s made out a air handler box, so it’s metal and insulated. There’s the door for the gyp to go in and out and to the left of that there is another cover that can be removed so that a fan can be put on it. There’s a screen on the inside to keep the dogs off of the fan. One end has a handle all the way across so that it can be moved by one person and wheels on the opposite end. There is a full size door on the end with wheels so that you can in and out pretty easy to get pups or clean it. There is a bumper rail around the bottom as well to help prevent pups getting mashed between the wall and the mother. There’s also a place to hang a heat lamp inside.


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And thanks for the well wishes fellas! I know he and I both appreciate it. He’s family of course but way more than that to me. He’s a good man and I’m proud of him. Don’t think I don’t give him hell though! No free passes here, lol.


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Nice pups Slim hope they live up to yalls standards.

That's a terrible thing that happened out there and yall ain't lieing the world is about as messed up and volatile as it can be these days it sure does make me worry about my kids and the next generation as a whole.

Unfortunately momma has lost 3 pups. All females. She’s doing her damndest, but she’s got a few bad tits and I guess there just wasn’t enough to go around.
 Seems she’s down to a manageable 7 and is taking care of them. This weather surely hasn’t helped. She’s been moved into the garage in a crate the last few days. Not ideal but the weather just isn’t playing fair. She’s got one left that is bit smaller but I’m helping him along with a bottle as I can. Seems he’s doing good. If we can get them all to the 2 week mark this Sunday I think we will be in the clear. Tough deal as we were hoping to move to all females between me and my two hunting buddies. Luckily Rhett and Tim have a litter on the ground a bit older than these out of some good dogs and we got plenty stock to raise to keep us where we want to be come next spring. I think I’ve got my 3 picked barring any of them demanding they stay here as they get closer to weaning. Last 2 females are the sure enough bigguns of the bunch and they will be staying here.
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That's a sweet dog yard right there, and a really really nice whelping box too!

Hey Slim I ran into this exact issue too when I bred my very best bitch who was 7 years old last year. She delivered 7 and we had to give her a shot to induce labor to get the last 3 out (still born). She only had 4 or 5 good tits, and so she picked two she didn't want and moved them out on her own. Pretty crazy that she knew, we ended up losing her due to a uterine infection but I was able to save and raise all 5 pups.

Best of luck to you with the pups, they sure look nice. I've been following along with your dogs progression and it's been fun to see. Stay after it!

Rednose, this guy is rich so he has the best of everything! He hunts coast to coast and north to south borders. He’s got the best of the best blooded dogs from the who’s who in that world. Some people just have it made!!!


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Nice pups bud


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Misdemeanor (misty)

Real nice pups with some character


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6 months old and 1st time for my guero and spoon to see a hog. Misty’s 2nd. Let hog out of the trailer and it was on from the jump. Come on January.


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Maybe it’s just me but I can’t get it to open.


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Hold over the link and click open in browser thomas. Or atleast that makes it work for me. If I just click the link it won’t open it.

 For any of the older crowd on here that was on here 10+ years ago. That JRT shorty in that video I just picked up from Mr. James and Clayton Hollub over here in schulenburg. Him and another had gotten after the neighbors cat and needed a new home so I went and got them.

Here’s same link copied from internet and not the Vimeo app. Maybe this works. https://vimeo.com/875015711


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Your a genius it worked.


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Lost guero to the fm road about 1/2 mile from the house. Always something with these sketch pups. Christmas eve eve I took spoon and Misty and sketch down to the bottom behind my house and casted them. 8 months old First time for them to be collared and sent “hunting”. They left like some 3 year olds off the flatbed right behind sketch. They made it about 400 with sketch and split off. Any track spoon comes across, he’s gonna tell you and everything else in the woods about it. Lmao.  His style, how he travels, and trail’s, to me is way more “houndy” than what these leopard dogs typically are. Misty is tighter mouthed. Only barks if she can see what she’s chasing. They chastised a deer or 2 and then a few cows. Let em run for an hour. Only went to go get them off the cow. https://vimeo.com/897899726

Gathered them back after sketch returned from the neighbors. Went to other end of the branch and casted them behind the working pens. They drop down in to the branch go about 300 and stand something up. It broke in short burst a couple of times 50 yards or so. Away then back. Away then back. Kept waiting to hear a coyote howl as I suspected that’s what they had come across. Though that never came. I waited a little to long to grab Lizzo and head to them. They broke south(only big hogs run that way in the past) and race was on. Picked them up about a mile down the branch where it crosses the road. No hog to be had, but they did as good as I could have asked for that being first time out. https://vimeo.com/897899966 now we wait for 3rd weekend of January.


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Man I hate you lost your pup. Probably means that pup was good. It doesn’t seem to happen to the sorry ones.


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Well, I’m About a week out on 2 litters that are hopefully going to afford me the opportunity to keep this family of dogs I’ve been breeding going.

The important one is We paired sketch up with a young male dog of T-dogs that Thomas seems to be really high on, and from the little I’ve seen and heard on him, rightfully so. Needed an outcross and wanted it to be something my style, but also to build on some areas I think my dogs could be better in. Some good conversation with Thomas was had about what those areas were, and he offered me to breed to his Ray dog. Cross Looks real good on paper , time will tell. I know one thing for almost certain, these pups are going to be about as pretty and colored up pups as you could ask for(if colored dogs are your thing lol).
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The other breeding is looking like a really tight bred accident, either that or a coyote or stray got to her at the house. I should be able to tell as soon as they’re born. Be cool if it works out to some good pups, but it’s definitely tighter than I would normally go. Be interested to see if anyone else has any experience on a full sibling cross. Their daddy was of no kin to these leopard dogs so hoping they have enough vigor to keep them from being deformed or genetically undesirable.


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I don't think you will be sorry, I have watched T dial these dogs in for 17 or 18 years and they have gotten better and better.

I don’t think you’ll get deformities from the full sibling cross. It’ll be interesting to see what the pups throw back to most. It might tell you a lot. I’ve talked to some old timers that said to breed brother sister until you started getting the undesirables. For some that will be the first cross and for others it may take a few times of doing it. They told me that the deeper you go the more things you will see but to not worry, just cull the the undesirable ones. Then once you’re to the point that you only get one or two quality pups, then those are bred together and the quality pups out of that are what you use to outcross or breed back to other relatives that aren’t as close. They called this setting your genes. This means your selected pups are as close to ideal as think you’re going to get. The pair you start with should be the same. If they aren’t VERY similar then it might take longer. You have to select for type each litter, breeding like dogs to like dogs. I haven’t ever tried this so I can’t say if it works or not but I understand why it would. My taste in what I want is very specific, so I look for certain markers in every pup so that I increase my odds in raising a pup that is to type in every way. I don’t know what guys like Cajun use for strategy, but there is always more than one way to skin a cat. It’s kinda like the navigation on a vehicle. You put the destination in and it gives you two or three different routes you can take. You have to choose the route that suites you beat.


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Misty had 5 Juneteenth baby’s yesterday evening. 3 females and 2 males. Them leopard genes run deep.  Now we wait on sketch.


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Whew we, now we are talking. That is the right color. Cant hardly go wrong with a brindle dog. I had a accidental cross years back and was going to kill them all. Glad I didnt because they really made nice dogs. Only thing that surprised me was they didnt reproduce as good as they were. Spotted dogs run a close second so I think you are going to be fine.

I like the looks of them, I think they'll be just what you want out of them.

Cajun was your accidental breeding a cross that you would’ve made?


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  I would not have made it at the time. It was a 1/2 brother, 1/2 sister cross and they were a year old. I gave them all away but kept a male and female.  They started young and I ended up selling the male. He was about as ugly a plott as I have seen except for his running gear. The guy I sold him to ended up getting out and sold him. The guy that bought him told me he was a all day, all night dog that would be bayed somewhere. His sister ended up being the same kind of dog. Unbelievable stamina. The male died young and the female never reproduced what she was altho she produced good usable dogs.

I’ll be. You just never know for sure with genetics. Even a successful cross this time may not produce the same a second time. I guess it works that way in all species. I’m the oldest of three kids. I’ve told my younger sisters all their life that I’m the reason that they are here. Momma and daddy were so proud of what they did the first time that they tried twice more to duplicate me. They gave up when they realized it was beginners luck. The youngest said no that they finally just got it right after three tries. We tell the middle sister, well one of those two stories is correct, but at least they loved you anyway!


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  I told you wrong. It was a full brother to a full sister cross.

You said he was UGLY. Do you know where that UGLY came from? I ask just out of curiosity, wondering if you could see that it came from something up close or if it was from further back.


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He just had a coke bottle head. I called him Pin Head. Dont know where it came from. His sister was a good looking dog.

Good looking puppies hope they work out for yall

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Sketch laid down and had hers yesterday evening. Think we got 10 or 11 In this pile. Some Merles, some leopards, brindles, even a reverse cur or 2. Looks like everyone is doing well this morning. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240625/3c74b491a204e5f9c4d4617418e2c5c0.jpg)

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Good luck with them, that's a colorful pile of pups.

Thanks guys. I’m excited. Ready for them to be a year old already. She split the litter right down the middle.5 boys and 5 girls(I was originally really excited because I thought it was 7 girls and 3 boys). And I believe I already have my pics made lol. 2 of them atleast. Gonna try and keep atleast 3 maybe 4 out of this litter for myself.
   
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Those are right purdy Slim!

This is my six month old. He’s a lizard hunting fool and will work all day at catching one.

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This is his littermate sister that my King Smitty has.
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Man, if they hunt half as good as they look you'll be in high cotton Thomas.

Sadly we lost another sketch offspring last night. Gyp belonged to my partner Tim we called Sister Sara out may 2023 litter. She was the only one that didn’t fire off by a year old. She was real shy so Tim had kept her at his house loose to grow up and let her just be a dog.
  She finally came out of her shell so Tim took her to his pens a couple weeks ago. Last Friday night I was going to make a round and Tim couldn’t make it so I went and grabbed some of his gyps. Last minute decision I jumped Sara on the trailer.

She took a few casts to figure it out but she started going with other dogs. Her brother my spoon dog rigged a hot track and we dumped box. She ran it half a mile with other dogs and stayed bayed for 20 minutes till we got there and caught the hog. I was proud of her and Tim was happy to hear she was starting to act like maybe she wanted to work.

Last night Tim and Rhett made a run while I had some work. Sara packed up with a little older gyp and went and struck a good boar. They caught him and Sara caught a tooth behind the shoulder. Got in to her chest cavity and from short conversation with Tim, sounds like it ended up getting a piece of one lung. Vet trip was made, they closed her up but she was given a 50/50 shot. She passed about midnight last night in his living room.

Real kick in the nuts for Tim. He literally made the comment over the phone as he was headed to load up last night. “4 years in to this rebuild and I think we’re close”. We still have 4 of her littermates and Tim’s got plenty dog power coming up so it ain’t the end of the world, but dang ya never want one to go out the 2nd time out.  Part of it.


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Hate to hear that. It would’ve been nice to see how she finished out compared to her littermates. As we all know, luck has a whole lot to do with this game we love.


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Yessir, I kind of was thinking the same thing. With her being the outlier of the 6 we kept back. Oh well, charge it to the game, and put another pup in her spot.
 


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Brought cicero to a buddies house last night to watch the football game. His old lady ruined him in 15 minutes lol.


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Sho enuf purty pups.

Went and picked up the last member of the class of 2025 for us this weekend. Courtesy of [mention]t-dog [/mention] and his nephew. She is a pretty little thing. Excited to watch her and the rest of her cousins grow. T-dog could tell you how this pup is related the sketch pups. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20241112/d82615c4355c25b51b900f25205f6ad7.jpg)
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Slim your pups momma (Moon) is a great aunt to the sire (Ray) of your sketch pups. Moon is also a great aunt to Ranger, the sire of this new pup. Ranger and Ray are half brothers, same sire (Uno). Ranger is also Rays uncle on the bottom side because Rays momma and Ranger are half brother sister as well, both out of Raylynn.


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Pay attention Slim, you're going to be tested on this!

now the kicker just so it’s all right here for me to remembers How does king tie in to all of this?

He and I both cannot wait to get him going. I’m staring at him now in the headlights. He’s growing to be a fine built animal.


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Yeah no kidding! My brain is fried just reading that lol. Between me and Tim, we now have like 15 or so dogs that are all kin in some form or fashion. Hopefully a lot of the pups make the grade and we can keep that number up there.


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King’s momma (Reba) is a littermate sister to Moon(the mother of this pup from Deputy Dawg). King’s daddy (Ken) is Ray’s uncle. Ken and Ray’s momma (Ava) are littermates. Ken is a half brother to Ranger (the second pups dad), they are out of Raylynn.


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Tdog and Slim, those are some really good looking pups and young dogs. Hope they make the cut for you.

I appreciate it Cajun. Slims pup looks more like an Australian cross than a border collie though.


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Tdog, It does not matter how they look, it is how they finish out that counts. The better they get, the better looking they are. Your dogs have come full circle. They started out looking to be  Plott , Border collie and now back to a Walker. That is a sharp looking youngster tho.

Think we have settled on “Miley Cyrus” for the little gyp pup. To join Lulu, doodle, rusty, and Cicero out of my gyps.


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She’s gonna be crazy as a bed bug!


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LMAO

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16ish year old young man came and got a spoon x Misty pup from me this summer. Had done some hog hunting with some friends on his families land and figured he wanted to try to have a few dogs.

Every couple weeks he sends me an update. I told him pack that puppy around and let him be a dog. He is doing just that and looks like he’s doing pretty good for a 6 month old puppy. Happy to see a young guy excited about this stuff like I was at that age, and not just worried about the next update of Fortnite.

Have another pup same litter with some buddies younger brother about the same age. He is doing well with her from what I hear as well. Can’t wait to get these boys and their pups out with us this spring.


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Finally let most our keepers have a go at a live hog. Sure enough they fired off first video is rusty(My Hi-tan pup) and then the darker brindle is Tim’s male. 2nd video the leopard dog is my Doodle bug pup. Not shown is Goose, Tim’s hi tan pup. Only one I think we didn’t expose was my LuLu dog.

2 yella pups are some pups of Rhett’s out of a gyp he has. And the light brindle dog is Tim’s Tiny dog. She’s 2 this year and her and her sister are really starting to make consistent, nice dogs. We used her to help the pups along.

Teaspoon up north of Lake Charles,La has his baying hogs in the pen and sounds like he’s about ready to maybe start messing with him a bit.

Our buddy Hunter just south of us in hallettsville has his Hi Tan male that was the runt, running mock trails and finding and baying the hog solo.

Young guy maverick who’s just getting started with dogs has his male doing anything and everything with him on the ranch, getting plenty of exposure and even has him helping blood trail some deer. He is supposed to be coming to hunt with us next weekend to look at a few older dogs we have that might be able to help get him started, and we will get that pup fired off.

Clay up around Lufkin is about to start using his gyp pup. Says she’s doing real good.

And t dog from what I can gather really likes his gyp and was looking at showing her and the rest of his own pups a hog here soon.

As for the 2023 pups. Spoon is the farthest along. I can take him and my rifle and go kill hogs. Physically he’s got it, waiting on his brain to catch up now and he’s gonna be real good. The sucker can rig a hog pretty savvy.

Misty isn’t too far behind spoon. Get her around some fresh tracks she’s probably gonna go get bayed. She set the woods on fire the last time we used her before shutting down for deer season. She’s been put up all fall unlike spoon.

Tims 2 males are coming on strong. They don’t have quite the time in the woods spoon and Misty do, but they are already contributors and pilgrim is forsure going to be a really nice dog.  Bobs gonna make a dog, but he might be physically limited, right now he just seems slower traveling. I expect by the end of March we will know all we need to about that round of pups.


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Yeap, ole Buckshot is showing the signs of an early starter. Starting this week, he will be learning how to ride the bikes and boxes and walk him into some bays, then go from there.

My yard dogs have taught him to "hunt" and now he hits the woods without them when he is let out the kennel. Hopefully, we just have to hone him in on the targeted species.

Thanks, Slim, for entrusting in me with this pup.... I'll do my best to give him every opportunity to excel.

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One of 2 males out of the last round of pups named Goose. This one I sent to a young guy wanting to get in to some dogs. He come up and hunted with us Sunday. Brought goose along and we got him fired off on one of the hogs we caught after the hunt. He went right to it and had lots of action. He really loops hard and has a mouth on him. Big boy, weighed 53 lbs at the vet the other day. May or June 24’ pup.


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Appreciate you taking a chance on him and giving me the opportunity to test one of these dogs in a much different environment than we use them in. Looking forward to hearing how he comes along.


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That's a good looking young male

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Nice looking pups Cajun. The real dark deep brindle is sure pretty. I told Tim that Sunday, we may have given away the best looking sucker out of the whole pile.


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Thanks Slim. At that age all you can do is pick out what physically appeals to you. If there was only a way to pick out ability.

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Got to finally start my King dog from T-dog this past week. This is the couple month old pup Thomas surprised me with after we had made the decision to do a breeding last year and then we invited him and deputy dawg down for a hunt.

Went to start him about 2 months ago and he decided to take a leap out of the back of the buggy while clipped and long story short injured a back hock/hip. He’s finally back to a point where laying up has done all it will do for him, and time to get that back end built back up.

Mid last week I heard some hogs in the neighbors while sitting on the porch one night. Figured it’s some sows and shoats we knocked out of the bottom the weekend before. Next morning late i decided to carry sketch and king over there and see. Let sketch go find them and then sent king soon as she bayed. Hogs broke. Sketch left, king stayed found and bayed a shoat solo.

Saturday afternoon in some pretty crazy heat for february he packed with the rest of our young males and we caught 3. Never saw him but at a hog after I turned him loose. He got sure enough hot after 3 and had to be put up.

Then Sunday mid morning. Everything is whooped and king packs up with my spoon dog for what end up being a pretty savvy trail job in its own right, and they ran a little 130 lb sow out of her nest, and around in circles, baying multiple times(we broke it twice. Once on accident and then once on purpose when they bayed against a road) 8 miles later in straight rose hedge country, they put her back in her nest and we got her killed.

Color me impressed King. Hell of a first 3 hunts, and a pretty good example of the difference in a dog that will do it, and one that was bred to do it.

Picture is from Sunday after we finally got the sow. Didn’t get any pictures of the 3 we caught with the males on Saturday

Now we just got to get him 100% healthy and whoop on some tracks.



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And just for fun, heres 3 generations of my leopard dogs before our Saturday hunt. That was a proud moment for me there.


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They all look good Slim and glad that King pup fired right from the start. Breeding does make the difference.

  That family looks like family, good hunt. Now that Lipper Walker dog may cause some variance in the color scheme haha.

That’s border collie old man, lol.
I don’t if I’ve said it before and you have a good memory, or if you are just that familiar with the Walker blood, that’s exactly where that color/ makings come from. You might be amazed at how little is actually in him on paper. Of course I’m partial to the dogs that throw make a little more towards the hound side usually. So I guess breeding back to those type is what really keeps the color linked gene showing up. That pups momma is plott brindle in color and his daddy is white with reddish fawn patch work. His momma’s sister is red merle and their brother was high tan. All the daddies siblings are some variance of brindle. So you never know what you’re gonna get with this family. Slims dogs crossed back to mine show to produce a lot of color, but all different catahoula type colors in round one. That’s to be expected to me.


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They all look awesome Slim, I get a kick out of seeing young dogs do what they were bred to do.

  t-dog, Ray Charles could see that's Walker coloration, and somewhere along the line I heard you say it was the House's Lipper blood. That goes back to the salt in the stew saying, "if you get too much salt in the stew you can dilute it down but it's still in there" and in genetics it can pop up way down the line.

That statement is maybe one of the most overlooked aspects in breeding Old Man, IMO. My dad taught me all my life that if you put something in, it’s there forever. If you knowingly breed an animal with a fault, you had better have your mind made up that it’s a fault you can tolerate or live with because unless you discard all the blood that genetically carries that fault, it is always going to be there. You may get away with it not showing up for a while, but it will show back up and it will likely be when you can least afford for it to. 


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Got word Monday, the gyp pup I sent to Lufkin out of spoon and Misty met her fate on the highway at 9 months old running her own hog. Man said 4 hunts in she had it figured out and was on her way to being a good one. Seems freak accidents are the M.O. with these dang dogs.

Last Saturday I sent sketch to a highschool boy that come to me wanting to get some dogs about 8 months ago. He’s been patient and respectful and done really well raising the pup out of sketch, so we brought him out Saturday with us for the 2nd time. Went and caught 15 head, got his pup goose started in the woods, and sent him home with sketch so he can start making some casts on his own and getting that pup the exposure he needs to make the dog he’s bred to be.
Was tough to watch her go, 8 years I leaned on that gyp to carry me and whatever I was putting out behind her to the hogs. These days, if we don’t catch one it’s not because sketch wasn’t there. Shes serving a much greater purpose with maverick helping to teach him and her son goose how to hog hunt. When ever she decides to give up the hogs for good, she will get to come home and retire to the ranch dog life.
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Good pics and good hogs Slim. I am sure Sketch will get Goose going in the right direction. That was a pile of hogs y'all caught.

Awesome hunt but maybe more pics of dogs and hogs, the team ain’t very purdy lol. You have to learn from us older hands. You don’t hardly ever see me in the pics.


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Thanks Cajun. I sure hope sketch has it left in her. We’ve got 6 long yearlings and 3 older dogs really going and they’ve been leaving her behind after the first couple. She’s been good for it here around the house still so hopefully she’s good for a few for goose and his owner.

We have in the last year or 2 tried to become better students of the hog. Our country can be tough to navigate but we have figured a few places out and how the hogs travel. It has been a game changer from 5-7 to double that. Make no mistake, we are amongst them when we are catching that many. It’s 15 out of 100+. We’re not catching 15 off your normal group of 20-30. That would be something pretty impressive.


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We got asked last minute to jump In a contest this past weekend. Came up short but weighed the biggest boar in and managed 4th out of 11 and caught the biggest boar. He was 292 hanging. And 233 gutted. Night time picture is a boar we caught with lizzo out of some feed bunks. Caught another big sow with her right after we had the hogs to win it bayed and catch dogs were holding up their end of the deal. Had fun and our dogs did good.

We were a little bummed after weigh in so we went and loaded some straight up puppies. 1st cast they went and found trouble. 2nd cast we were split on 2 groups. Ended up getting one killed behind Hank P, Rusty, and Goose. Latter 2 being out of me and t dogs litter


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If you walk away proud then you won. Hog hunting comps are different than any other competition I can think of. Lots of variables that influence the outcome and as many times as not, the quality of the dogs isn’t the biggest one. Looks like y’all bagged some real good ones. 290# is a grown up for sure.


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We walked away with heads held high. Tims Tiny and roach, my king and lizzo, and Rhett’s Gidget earned their feed no doubt. Caught 10ish hogs around 200. Closer to 20 on the weekend, just not good enough to beat a 220 average on 3 gutted hogs. Some boys from down south showed up with some absolute hammers. I’ll tip my cap to three 280 lb hogs any day.


Best part was the puppies getting bayed Sunday evening. That’s what we’re about. Piss on that tournament in the long run.


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 You guys are piling them up, hogs in your area better spread the word that it's time for a move.

We cover lots of country so over 3 counties. Fayette, Colorado, and some Lavaca county. About a 40 mile square we live within. Don’t stray from it much. Not the best hog country overall, but such as anywhere there’s pockets good as any. Most of the good stuff is Tim’s country, we hunt lost of country with cattle on feed between me and him.

We do not kill everything we bay either. We are responsible for I’d say a respectable 100 potential barr hogs over the last 6-7 years. Seen other hogs multiple times before as well.


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Dogs been sorry the last 2 times or so we’ve used them. Took lizzo other night middle of the week with a buddy right down the county road at sunset. Sitting 250 yards from a feeder behind a lady’s house she been seeing a boar hog or 2 every night. Sure enough 5 minutes before last light, I thought I saw 2 hogs break the brush line(have a thermal borrowed from a buddy) a ways a part but only ever seen one after that. He got to feeder as I vested lizzo. I let my buddy keep the thermal at the truck and told him to watch the hog. If that hog goes to leave he is to turn my running lights back on on my truck.

Stalk all the way to him at 30 maybe 40 yards I’d say. It’s dark now though. I can just see his outline in under this feeder in a pretty oak Mott. He figures us out about the time she  is locked on him and I send her. She got to him fairly quick and last I could see through the grass she appeared to be in his hip pocket. Knowing what she does I’m thinking she tried to ham that hog to spin it and he was right at the fence and he fenced her. I was told it’s a notorious thing with greyhounds and they just innately suck crossing fences or gates, they can’t really swim and don’t really jump.

Then we went to Tim’s cattle co. And we harrass these hogs pretty good. A lot of people around there do with different means. But dogs acted like they couldn’t smell at 10 when we started. Finally spoon and king busted out of the creek and pulled a big 3/4 circle back in to our face. where I had just been saying I was waiting on them to bay. Send some help and it’s a group in a bunch of rosehedge. We end up with a big nothing I think off of that. We had spoon and his brother pilgrim and Tim’s tiny gyp bayed finally after like 2 hours then the time I go to walk in there I hear a bunch of distant gun shots, maybe next pasture over across the road. And then someone burps a first responder siren on the county road. Dogs come out. I don’t know what the deal was there. Don’t think it was related but I was definitely saying let’s pick up and reset.

Jumped just down the road to some country his uncle put together and kinda has some hog proofing done. I was pretty sure there was no hogs inside the fence and there were some close outside after 2 cast on bottom end. came back to the middle to some fresh bulldozed trailed and send em again and they find a cheap 100 lb sow to run around in a circle and catch. Went back to the pens and swapped some of Tim’s dogs around. Go back to a part of the place we first started on we didn’t hit. Artesian well makes a flooded mess in some red clay and rose hedge. Sent a few, king struck. It’s tough seeing a hog in that stuff. Sent spoon as he was on the box catching his breath. Then dogs played tennis across fm 2434 with a hog(s) for 30 minutes before I had to stop traffic because spoon was about to get hit. Rest of them dogs come back into our side. Roll a big left hand, go 500 yards farther west and kick across 2434 again. Just like anne and Misty did last time and they had the group bayed at the end. They go to same place same spot and tree. We hit the county road and go to ask permission to go to them. We get it and they appear to get beat to the same netwire we were just in by the time we get around to them, and pilgrim who we left trailing behind Tim’s pens has been picked up and hauled to some out of towners family Easter.

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Rough go, my dad and his brother run greyhounds on Fox in the 50's and 60's. They would put up a low fence between the food and the doghouse to make them jump. They kept increasing the fence height till they jumped pretty naturally. I remember the kennels being really high. Lol

Slim I can guarantee she tried to ham him. I don’t mind that at all because she immediately moves to the head when they stop. She doesn’t pinch and she won’t release until it squats or tries to face up. It’s good watching. You need to talk to that land owner about moving that fence.

You said a mouthful when you said it’s dry. I’m already real worried about this summer. We’ve had very little rain and even less run off. A lot of stock tanks are low and even dry already. It sounds like the dogs were hustling, win lose or draw. Myself I can live with that. Those young dogs will get better being put in harder situations. The cream will start rising to the top in those situations and you’ll find out who you should build around. Y’all have done good by the hem in hogs real regular so that they are confident and hitting the ground with pork on their mind. Just be patient and remember they are young.


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Yeah this summer doesn’t appear to be shaping up to be a “good” one as far as conditions go.
The dogs are young, they are trying and doing well. I don’t hate em for looking lackluster this past weekend. We’re about do for a sorry spell from a few of them for a couple months. Jamie and my uncle used to talk about that. Somewhere around 2 just about any good dogs gonna go through a sorry phase where they just look bad, or like they forgot everything they’ve ever done.

In other news I’m now waiting on Misty to come in. On a wild hair I got reminded today about a male that’s still alive out of the very first sketch cross. He was one I raised and had going on hogs that my uncle sold out from under me when we parted ways. I know where he is and the man said he will let me bring a gyp to him whenever I’m ready. He is a pretty savvy cow dog these days and will trash on hogs. Man likes him well enough he just crossed him to a gyp he has. He and 1 sister(if she’s still alive. Idk where she is)  are the only proven working animals alive that go directly back to the original leopard dogs I bred in to. Their daddy was one of the last of the Mohicans. Stoked about that.


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Good luck with that. I hope it works for you.


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 It's always good to be able to dip back into the start of a good strain, hope it works out and you get a good litter.

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This is potential stud in question. He was radar to me. Here he was at about 8 months old on my yard. He was going a little bit on hogs pretty good by this time. We had kept four. 3 males and a gyp. 2 males were dead by a year or so. His sister at a year was easily the most natural of any pups I’ve raised, hunting wench and I could make her trail or bay anything. caught a nasty coyote with her and found her dead in her pen a week later.
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Here is my spoon dog at around same age. Just under a year. He’s coming on 2 in May I believe and is number one around here right now.
His sister may have something to say about that but I don’t use her as much because I want to breed her again. The litter out of her from last year is already hog hunting and they’re not a year till June.


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Was this male dog out of Jamie’s dog? I like the leg under him and that deep chest. He almost looks a little cow hocked but it could be an awkward position he was caught in. My biggest breeding philosophy is “breed to a litter, not an individual”. I’m other words no matter how good a dog is, if a high percentage of his litter mates didn’t finish out at a high caliber then you are likely making the breeding for nothing. My second rule is that if I don’t like that dogs parents and parents of the other dog being bred to it then I don’t do it. The pups are usually gonna have a strong resemblance to the most prepotent one of those four or the most prepotent line of those four if it’s an outcross. If it’s a line breeding of a tighter bred family then you should have a pretty good idea about what you’re going to get. Of course these are just my opinions and what I have experienced.I hope it works out for you.


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T-dog if you know who Brian Adams is, from Lee County. That’s who got him from my uncle.

He’s not out of Jamie’s dogs but a close relative. My ex/ uncle Cullen that i worked for at the time, his lead cow dog was a big dark brindle dog named Levi. Them dogs come out of Jamie and Timmy Exners dogs. This is all documented on this forum in one of my threads. This thread starts on the litter of this dogs brother bred back to sketch.

Also, I asked you about the Reats and if they had a gyp named Tiggy that’s somewhere up there running hogs after the Iselts got her from me and had her for years. That’s this dogs full sister from that original litter. Finding out about her on hogs will tell you the tape on that litter. There was 3 more in East Texas that slowly got killed off the guy loved on hogs, in fact he finally got another from me out of the other litter I had next to the sketch/ray litter and she just got killed on hwy running a hog.

He wasn’t/isnt cow hocked, rhett ended up with a sister that was though. She got culled promptly.

Litter was a success as far as the type of dog. Most of them just didn’t make it to a year and a half. It might be more of a sentimental breeding, but he is the last of those alive besides tiggy, and the inbred so out of this dogs brother named tracker that my buddy Nathan has.


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That is a sharp looking dog with a hell of a nice paint job.

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Pretty neat picture from the young man who has sketch and her double bred grandson goose at 10 months old. He is running and baying hogs and can get behind one pretty decent for a 10 month old. I got a video of his crossing behind a hog this weekend, way ahead of grandma lol.


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Tim and Rednose had a few bulldog pups drop Saturday night. All 5 doing well so far.


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Two nice parents. Hopefully the pups will measure up. I was only around Tim’s gyp the one time, but I would feed her.


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First time I’ve seen sketch in a couple months. 9 this summer but of course been crippled and she has surely passed the torch. Although she did give 2 valiant efforts on races once we got in the hogs. This was a tough hunt. Had dogs walking a bay in the county road ditch and a neighbor did a drive by on them basically. I had to go get king out of a deer blind 2 places over after this.
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Full brother sister/ parents on left
Misty and Spoon
Littermate gyp(my doodle bug) and male (Goose belonging to Maverick) on right.

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2nd of as many this evening. Man asked me to ride through his place make sure they didn’t miss any cattle when they cleaned the place off. I took spoon king Misty and a spoon x Misty yearling Doodle bug. Misty stole the show for the first Time in front of spoon and king and when I needed spoon to retake the track he pulled off that Misty was running. He took it and we caught this hog at the end of a 3.5 mile race.
It was an impressive showing for them 2 by my standards.


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