EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

HOG & DOGS => DOGS ON HOGS => Topic started by: Downunder on April 10, 2010, 06:44:21 am



Title: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: Downunder on April 10, 2010, 06:44:21 am

Just wandering who's used some Plott Hound in their Curs? It's a cross that I like the idea of. I'de like to see some pictures if anyone has any.

Cheers.


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: Hog Dog Mike on April 10, 2010, 07:50:14 am
A friend of mine had one but I am not sure about the amount of blood. I don't know if it was 50-50, 75-25 but I think he had a little more Plott blood in him than cur.

His name was Hacksaw and the absolute best strike dog I have ever seen. Another thing I noticed was that he seemed to always find and strike the big boars.


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: sdillard on April 10, 2010, 07:54:36 am
I have a 1/4 plott in one of my curs and the only thing that i dont like about her is that she will bark a lil when she first hits a real hot track.


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: sgt.davis on April 10, 2010, 11:51:58 am
(http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/af329/sgtcd28/th_hogpen058.jpg) (http://s1020.photobucket.com/albums/af329/sgtcd28/?action=view&current=hogpen058.flv)

These are my Plott/Cur pups. They are 4 1/2 months old and the bigger one is Plott/Cur/Leapord. This is the first time for the pups on a big pig in a pen and they look promising to me. The older dog has been in the woods about 6 times and him and another pup found their own hog last weekend. I like that cross. JMO


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: rodeoman67 on April 11, 2010, 09:12:17 pm
i have 3 of them. 2 are 50-50 and 1 is 75-25. For me they have just the right amount of nose and bottom.They also seem to start coming around alot sooner.Plus there silent ;D bryce


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: Silverton Boar Dogs on April 11, 2010, 10:20:53 pm
I have 6 that are Plott x Catahoula, absolutely fabulous hog dogs. Mine are all silent.


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: HS on April 11, 2010, 10:34:59 pm
I have a  plott x catahoula and is my main strike dog,mine is silent as well....


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: raider54 on April 11, 2010, 10:58:24 pm
The majority of our pack is 1/2 Plott 1/2 BMC. Best of both worlds!  My favorite breed


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: BIG BEN on April 12, 2010, 05:48:41 am
Ive got 2 gyps that are 1/2 Plott 1/2 Cat, 1/2 plott 1/2 BMC thats the cross Im going to run from now on. Great nose, good bottom, silent, hound mouth, and gritty as all get out.


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: BarrNinja on April 12, 2010, 06:37:22 am
A Plott breeder/bear hunter asked if I wanted to try a pup from an experimental X they tried. After seeing the breeding on both sides I couldnt say no.
She is only 8 months old in this picture.
I still dont know exactly what kind of dog she is going to be but I like what I see so far.
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/alanhuskey/DSC01589.jpg)



Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: boarwild on April 12, 2010, 07:01:22 am
Ike is a 1/2 plott 1/2 bmc.  He is my first hog dog and i can't complain about anything he is doing at 11 months old.  silent


(http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/martinsu25/NewPicture2.png)


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: Nickjones on April 12, 2010, 11:37:48 am
I have a 1/2 plott 1/2 cur gyp that i hunt with. next to my reverse black mouth she is my best strike dog. I really like this cross in a dog.


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: ChaseG on April 12, 2010, 08:23:15 pm
my buddie has a male that is bout a year and a half now. he is 1/2 plot and a 1/4 cur and a 1/4 cat. he has been findin pigs since he was 9 months old. a jammed up dog thats only gettin better. he goes good all day and is completely silent on track. i dont think you can go wrong with them.


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: tnhillbilly on April 13, 2010, 04:20:55 pm
NOW THE TRUTH IS COMING OUT!!!  :D :D :D LOL. I cant say anything now after buyin a cur tho. Ive got two pups 1/2 cat 1/2 plott fixin to start. i really like the way they act so far, trying to buy my old dogs back. 1/2 redbone 1/2 mtn cur, natural trail and bay dogs. 


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: a-khunter on April 14, 2010, 08:16:21 am
this is my favorite cross
my strike dog- male, almost 8yrs, half & half, silent
(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv284/kjo4220/082.jpg)

prolly my next top dog-female, 2 1/2 yrs, half & half, silent
(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv284/kjo4220/081.jpg)

also have 3 pups out of these 2 dogs that have been hunting w/ the big dogs since 6 months old.
2 pups are brindle & 1 is yellow


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: Downunder on April 15, 2010, 02:35:57 am

Thanks for the replies and pictures. I like the idea of this cross, some places that I hunt the pigs seem to travel much further than in some other spots. Maybe with some Plott mixed with my Curs I'de have some dogs with a bit more range and distance with plenty of stopping power and grit. Pity I'm in Australia and we don't have Plotts here.

... Might be something to look into.

Cheers.


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: bayhorse on April 15, 2010, 01:29:35 pm
I GOT A PLOTT/PARKER CROSS BEST DOG I GOT


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: Kyle0329 on April 15, 2010, 01:39:55 pm
hey bayhorse got the same cross mines only five months old just wondering how that cross hunts?


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: bayhorse on April 15, 2010, 02:15:07 pm
SHE HUNTS OUT 20 TO30 MIN LOOP LOTS OF GO


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: SouthsFinestFla on April 15, 2010, 10:36:16 pm
Good lookin male and female.. They look like my buddies florida cur/ ridgeback male.


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: TinyTexasCowgirl on July 22, 2010, 03:18:07 pm
This is my Grace, she is a pup out of AkHunter's plott/hound cross.

(http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/Tinytexascowgirl/Grace%20Anne/CoPilot.jpg)

(http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af282/Tinytexascowgirl/Grace%20Anne/Perky.jpg)

Everyone says her eyes are errie because they are the same color as her body.


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: make-em-squeel on July 22, 2010, 03:29:33 pm
I have 6 that are Plott x Catahoula, absolutely fabulous hog dogs. Mine are all silent.
Paul i always respect what you say, i have personally had horrible luck with them being silent for a year or more and then opening up randomly for no reason making me cull after all that hard work etc....how do you do it?


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: blakebh on July 22, 2010, 03:56:17 pm
I have a Plott/Cat gyp that is silent, just gritty enough and usually hunts out between 600 and 900 yards, which is about how I like em!  She is not the greatest dog ever but she can and has found hogs on a regular basis.


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: raider54 on July 22, 2010, 05:14:45 pm
here are a few of ours, we have three Plott/Cur
(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r123/raider54_photos/Zigtray.jpg)
(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r123/raider54_photos/ZigandTray.jpg)
(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r123/raider54_photos/ZigTray1.jpg)
(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r123/raider54_photos/Clayslastphoto.jpg)

some of the best we have


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: Silverton Boar Dogs on July 22, 2010, 06:00:32 pm
I have 6 that are Plott x Catahoula, absolutely fabulous hog dogs. Mine are all silent.
Paul i always respect what you say, i have personally had horrible luck with them being silent for a year or more and then opening up randomly for no reason making me cull after all that hard work etc....how do you do it?

I really don't have any secret, but I do work all these dogs on cattle a lot when they are young. I do believe that a dogs first year at work wires its brain. So I spend the first half of a pups first year mostly working cattle. I "think" that might help. Those pups get to bay and hold cattle for hours and hours and they get real tired and they get real quiet. Or it could just be this line of dogs and all in the genes.


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: make-em-squeel on July 22, 2010, 06:18:49 pm
Interesting posts, my personal opinion is that for most of us I lean toward a good cur because its not worth them opening up as they age and a half doesnt seem to hunt any deeper or harder than a solid cur. Just my .02 but i have seen a handfull and am probably comparing against better than avg curs


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: firemedic on July 22, 2010, 08:59:26 pm
I truly believe that a Plott/cur cross can and often will be the best hog dog you will ever have. I've seen a lot of dogs over the years and I don't remember ever seeing a Plott/cur cross that didn't make a good dog, some make super dogs that will just make you rethink what a dog is capable of doing if they put their mind to it and have the drive to get it done. It doesn't seem to matter much what kind of cur you cross a Plott with either, they're probably gonna make a dog that you'll be proud of.


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: HIGHWATER KENNELS on July 22, 2010, 10:10:07 pm
To me they will almost always have a better nose that a straight cur dog.. and their nose will mature at a much faster rate ....BUT those with more than a 1/4 plott tend to kind of beller on track a bit...


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: parker on July 23, 2010, 05:50:36 am
i don't  think  its so  much  that  hounds  have  way  better  noses ....its  just  its  in there  make  up  genetics  to  trail colder  tracks .....


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: Yeller on July 25, 2010, 07:32:06 am
I'm a yellow dog man but I have been impressed with this BMCxPlott she's med range and real gritty she put the whoa on this boar hog he tried to break twice and she shut him down (http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww246/Yellar/DSCN2748.jpg)(http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww246/Yellar/PICT0252.jpg)


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: parker on July 25, 2010, 09:52:47 am
nice looking female ......


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: Reuben on July 25, 2010, 10:53:49 am
i don't  think  its so  much  that  hounds  have  way  better  noses ....its  just  its  in there  make  up  genetics  to  trail colder  tracks .....

That's my belief too. :)


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: tnhillbilly on July 25, 2010, 04:22:09 pm
I'm a yellow dog man but I have been impressed with this BMCxPlott she's med range and real gritty she put the whoa on this boar hog he tried to break twice and she shut him down (http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww246/Yellar/DSCN2748.jpg)(http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww246/Yellar/PICT0252.jpg)
Now thats my kind of color right there, i cant wait to raise some of my own,


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: make-em-squeel on July 25, 2010, 04:36:40 pm
I truly believe that a Plott/cur cross can and often will be the best hog dog you will ever have. I've seen a lot of dogs over the years and I don't remember ever seeing a Plott/cur cross that didn't make a good dog, some make super dogs that will just make you rethink what a dog is capable of doing if they put their mind to it and have the drive to get it done. It doesn't seem to matter much what kind of cur you cross a Plott with either, they're probably gonna make a dog that you'll be proud of.

This shows that I (and most of us) have not come close to seeing it all. I have rarely seen one hunt any deeper or harder than a good cur and alot open up. Dont get me wrong i have hunted with 3 good ones...clay, daisy, and spiderman but thats 3 out of 20, and hunt with alot that are avg dogs.


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: raider54 on July 25, 2010, 04:42:58 pm
I truly believe that a Plott/cur cross can and often will be the best hog dog you will ever have. I've seen a lot of dogs over the years and I don't remember ever seeing a Plott/cur cross that didn't make a good dog, some make super dogs that will just make you rethink what a dog is capable of doing if they put their mind to it and have the drive to get it done. It doesn't seem to matter much what kind of cur you cross a Plott with either, they're probably gonna make a dog that you'll be proud of.

This shows that I (and most of us) have not come close to seeing it all. I have rarely seen one hunt any deeper or harder than a good cur and alot open up. Dont get me wrong i have hunted with 3 good ones...clay, daisy, and spiderman but thats 3 out of 20, and hunt with alot that are avg dogs.

Grant, you fogot ZIG, and Daisy is 1/2 Walker


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: mex on July 25, 2010, 08:27:18 pm
Here is my gyp that just had pups so dont mind her being a lil thin.Looks alot like the other brindle gyp.She will roll.   (http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss323/mex_0317/DSC_0221.jpg)


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: raider54 on July 25, 2010, 09:18:14 pm
i don't  think  its so  much  that  hounds  have  way  better  noses ....its  just  its  in there  make  up  genetics  to  trail colder  tracks .....

That's my belief too. :)

Hounds have a better sense of smell = better nose! some hounds have a better nose than others! I have been rasing hounds for 35 years, I have seen black and Tans and Blueticks run a track that one of our Walkers couldnt even smell. Dave Dean of Michigan is a premier breeder of the American Bluetick Hound, He owns the Hammer line! 50 years ago he introduced some pointer into his line to give them a little more nose. There is night and day difference in our strait curs and our hound cur crosses when it comes to running a track! You can watch them on a Garmin and the hound crosses will run off and leave the curs on a track (Fresh or Cold)


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: Yeller on July 25, 2010, 10:14:49 pm
 This gyp has proven her ability to take a little colder track than my curs but she can't run a track faster and she is open when a hog breaks but she dont bark trailin to one. I prefer a silent dog but despite popular opinion  I have friends with open dogs that can run and shutdown a hog as fast as any silent dog


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: Reuben on July 25, 2010, 11:55:33 pm
back in the day most of the bmc and cats around this part of the country didn't take cold tracks but the ones I saw back then that were really good had hound in them. I am willing to bet that a lot of these dogs today that are really good curs probably have some hound in them from way back. I have seen a lot of talk on this board about half this and half that.

The right strain of mtn cur will drift on a track and find the hot end quick and get gone. They are somewhere in the middle of the cur and hound.


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: Reuben on July 26, 2010, 02:48:07 am
I have 6 that are Plott x Catahoula, absolutely fabulous hog dogs. Mine are all silent.
Paul i always respect what you say, i have personally had horrible luck with them being silent for a year or more and then opening up randomly for no reason making me cull after all that hard work etc....how do you do it?

I really don't have any secret, but I do work all these dogs on cattle a lot when they are young. I do believe that a dogs first year at work wires its brain. So I spend the first half of a pups first year mostly working cattle. I "think" that might help. Those pups get to bay and hold cattle for hours and hours and they get real tired and they get real quiet. Or it could just be this line of dogs and all in the genes.


First year wires the brain.... I agree with Silverton's quote. Same with humans. They say that the younger the children are who take music lessons who play an instrument , have a larger than average communication nerve between the left/right side of the brain.


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: parker on July 26, 2010, 08:25:20 am
its all in the  individual dog ....some  just  smell  better  than  others  ....some  have  it in  the  breeding  to  trail  colder  sign or  scents ....doesn't  mean the  next  dog from a lesser  scent focused breed can't  smell it .....

a  cur  is a  mix  bred  dog .... thats  what  is  so  great  about  em .... my  old  blackie  dog  could  take a  10 hour  or  older  track  and  put a  hog  on the  end  of  it ....i  seen  him  do it  plenty  of  times ....

we  call  it  cold  nosed .......but  i'd  say  its  simply  more  scent focused ....

 


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: Reuben on July 29, 2010, 11:49:52 pm
its all in the  individual dog ....some  just  smell  better  than  others  ....some  have  it in  the  breeding  to  trail  colder  sign or  scents ....doesn't  mean the  next  dog from a lesser  scent focused breed can't  smell it .....

a  cur  is a  mix  bred  dog .... thats  what  is  so  great  about  em .... my  old  blackie  dog  could  take a  10 hour  or  older  track  and  put a  hog  on the  end  of  it ....i  seen  him  do it  plenty  of  times ....

we  call  it  cold  nosed .......but  i'd  say  its  simply  more  scent focused ....

 X2. A well bred hog dog should wind a long ways when the conditions are right. Should be able to take an older track but can circle and find the hot end of a track very quickly.
If you see fresh hog sign, a good hog dog should be able to find a hog within 15 or 20 minutes even if the hog has traveled several miles away from all the sign. If it means crossing in some walker or plott to do it then so be it.






Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: jesse on July 31, 2010, 11:21:05 pm
hear are mine but one is full plott the gray dog is 1/2plott 1/2 cat cur(http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz25/kingdog79/727678902207_0_BG.jpg)


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: Nickjones on August 05, 2010, 08:20:16 am
This is my gyp. she is 3/4 plott 1/4 cur.

(http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu195/nickjones_07/hog%20dogs/0805000727.jpg)


Title: Re: Plott/Cur cross
Post by: Woodsnwetlands08 on August 05, 2010, 09:07:04 am
<a href="http://s815.photobucket.com/albums/zz71/woodsnwetlands08/?action=view&current=e298dcdc.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz71/woodsnwetlands08/e298dcdc.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket Pictures, Images and Photos" />[/url]<a href="http://s815.photobucket.com/albums/zz71/woodsnwetlands08/?action=view&current=19e97fe1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz71/woodsnwetlands08/19e97fe1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket Pictures, Images and Photos" />[/url]