EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

For the life of me I can't remember the dosage on that stuff.  If anybody knows please refresh my memory.

Waylon

We are using 25-30cc on a 50# cur

I always use 30 to 40 on my dogs... ranging from 50# to 100#. Rub it in on the back and the belly.

Ok Thanks yall

Waylon

I was only useing 20 ml on a 55 pound cur and that stuff worked on her for nearly a month at a time

please refresh my memory, is that the stuff you get at lowes?

Bayers tree and shrub.  Yes you can get it at most hardware or feed stores.  I was told to use about 20ml.  i used it a couple of times and it has worked.

Joey

I use 15 ml on my dogs up to 60 lbs and 20ml for the dogs over 60lbs

does anybody know the name of the active indgrent

Imidacloprid: 1.47%

thanks the only thing i can find is bayer tree and shrub and feed  do they make it with out fertlizer in it?

Here is the one you want, yes they make it without fertilizer. I know my mom had to look at a few different places until she found the bottle without the fertilizer for her dogs.
http://www.bayeradvanced.com/product/Tree-Shrub-Insect-Control/concentrate.html

Walmart, Lowe's, some other retailers

how do you mix it and apply it to ypur dogs??? someone please let me know

I do not mix but put it directly on the dog.  I usually just put about 15 ccs on about a 55 pound dog.  I hat three in the back yard and was just putting it on my big dog which she weighed about 55 pounds and the other two would loose the ticks and fleas also.  Some mix it in water and spray the area but this is what I did last year and will start it up again as soon as i see hide or hair of a flea or tick and am going to try and still put 15 ccs on about a 100 pound dog and see how he does with it.

Just wondering if any one has used it on pups and if so how much do u put on them? The pups I want to treat are 7wks old . Any info would be greatly appriciated.

it has worked on fleas but not ticks for me

How it works is it doesnt get in the blood stream. When you apply it to a dog i makes crystals on their hair. And when fleas rub against the hair it poisons and kills them. And when fleas lay their egg they lay them on a single strand of hair and when it falls off the flee egg hatches and they eat the dead hair until they get old enough to jump on the dog. And its just a big cycle. But when a dog has the bayer tree and shrub on it when the baby flea eats the hair it kills him.

OK I WAS THINKING IT WAS A BLOOD STREAM THING. NOW IT MAKES SINCE.

Knowest a couple of ticks on my dogs sunday and put it on monday and by wendsday the things were dead and gone so so far it is working on both ticks and fleas for me.

anyone have puppy dosage??  i've got a 7 week old pup and a 13 week old pup i'd like to treat. 

PAY ATTN TO CIRCLE C POST ON imiad...1.47 if it doesn't have that as the first ingrediant it won't work, no need to mix in fact a freind of mine cut ut with water and dedn't get any results.

So does anyone know if it is safe for pups or not?

DOEHEAD, I put this on my pups saturday, they are 5 weeks old and i let it work for bout 24 hrs checked em and they had NO MORE fleas. that was saturday and i watched them closely to see if anything would happen and they look fine to me so i would say it is safe for them. i just put a little drop on their shoulders and rubbed it in.. seemed to work fine!

We put a 1cc on small pups like that and rub it down their back to the base of their tail.. works fine

Thanks for the replys, really appreciate it .

Just got back from wallmart with some. Gonna give it a try. Is the stuff with fertelizer in it ok? The label says hazard to domestec animals and humans.

"SO OK CUR" that is not the right one. You need to get the (BAYER TREE AND SHRUB 12 MONTH INSECT CONTROL). It works great....

ok reused it  (the right way  rolleyes)  and it has killed everything.
here are some pics for the guys that needed a visual reference

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ok im stupid and lost now  :-[,

isnt that the stuff with the fertilizer in it? i saw that stuff but didnt buy it because it said protect and feed.

Id love to try it but just didnt wanna put fertilizer on my dogs, lol

i couldnt find with out the feed. so i said what the heck. it works and even though it does have a low amount of fertilizer. though one dog has  turned green , grown 6" and gained 50 pounds of muscle.

LOL thats the one I got and said what the heck and put it on all the hunting dogs the sh!tzu the chiwawa and the cat and it worked great. Thanks so much!

Today at Tractor Supply I saw a product called Gordons tree and shrub spray. exact same ingredient. It was like 16 bucks for the bottle. Just thought that may help if Bayer's brand is hard to find.

Muleman
   thanks for the info as i sit here looking at a bottle of BAYER tree and shrub insect control,"12 month insect protection".
 that we paid 22.99 for a 32 oz bottle at the one of the feed stores in abilene
        day late , dollar short
   my lifes story
   Dexter :-\ 

take a look at this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imidacloprid

thanks for the info muleman, i found some of the gordons stuff at atwoods

Gordans works great did my whole pack and house dogs  not a flea in sight nor a tick. Thanks Muleman for the info on the cheaper brand !

can you use this stuff on a dog thats preg?

i noticed that they dont make the tree and shrub without fertalizer, but now they have a citrus and vegatable and it says nothing about fertalizer on it i think it has the same insecticide in it, might want to check it out.

I wouldn't simply because it would be on her teets when the puppies would nurse.

There is a brand name--- Dominion--- that has the same active ingredient & it works great.

Went to the local feed store today and bought a bottle of "Dominion Tree & Shrub" for $16. The owner of the store said that she has never sold a bottle of this stuff to anyone who actually intended on putting it on a tree or shrub!

Thanks guys for the info.

Couldnt get the tree and shrub but they had bayer insect and pest. has the same ingredient but only.97% instead of 1.47% will this work and how should I use it?

Yeah it will work.  Considering the % of active ingredient, I would use about 1.5 times the recommended dosage as the one that is 1.47%.  Looks like the "recommended" dosage varies quite a bit from the guys using it.  Its always best with that kind of stuff to use the least amount while still maximizing results.  Maybe I'm weird, but I have treated the ground & vegitation in and around my kennels and I don't have any fleas in the area.  By treating the dog, you are likely to keep fleas off your dog for a while, but by treating the ground, I feel like you will relocate the fleas away from where your dogs are for a longer period of time.  Maybe try both??