EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I'd like to know who's hunting the pure florida cur lines:  partin, peeples, morgan, or any others and how they hunt

I know a fella that had one flew one in from California. Five year old finished dog... struck a few dillers the first time out. Come to find out, there's no armadillos out there where she's from so we couldn't fault her for doing it.. Long story short, she was wore out and riding on the back of my 4-wheeler. We were heading back to the trucks, she stood up and barked twice. Cut her loose, she went almost 200 yards and bayed another diller. She was wearing a Garmin... so that tells me she has a helluva nose to wind an armadillo from that distance. ;)

That's halarious...

Sounds like a diller dog that trashes on hogs occasionally! lol.

I have no experience with Florida curs, but I hear they are big and ruff and I am interested in reading what others have to say about them.

Hey guys, new here as I was invited by jdt. I am in Florida and hunt Fla curs exclusively. You can check out pictures of my dogs and some of the hogs we have caught recently at www.crackercreations.net. I have been hog hunting about 30 years and have had 6 generations of the same line of Fla curs. They suit me, but they may not suit anyone else. They are rougher than a lot of the Blackmouth type dogs. The fact that I have never owned or fed a bulldog will attest to that fact.........
I have my own dogs thatI have had for years and I have a pure Partin male named Monkey that I am hunting. This dog is from Roy Partin in St. Cloud, so he isn't a "Partin" dog because someone didn't know what else to call him.
I don't claim to be an expert on Fla curs, but thats all I hunt , so if I can answer any questions on them, let me know.
We also carry the Garmin Tracking units, staple guns, cut collars and lots of camo accessories and RealTree childrens clothes on the website.

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Nice looking dogs and web site crackerc.

I really like the blocky heads on your dogs. Your web site pretty much verifies what I have heard on the bread and I sure like em!

I like them too. I have tried other types of curs but these suit me better than any others I have seen. My dogs are closer ranging dogs than some guys like, but when they smell a hog they are gone. I usually hunt one dog at a time, or one old dog and a young dog at most. If I put more than one old dog on the ground they are pretty much going to catch or get wrecked trying. I like hunting one dog, as you can tell what they are doing and if they are going to make the grade or not. If they can't find, stop and keep a hog bayed or caught until I get there, by themselves with no other dogs out, they don't stay here long. I like a dog to bay tight, but not too tight. Very fine line down here, as many of these hogs have been run by deer hounds for years. Most you will have to put teeth on to stop.
Here is my Partin bred Monkey dog and a good young boar caught by him and a 9 month old pup. We caught the hog alive, but had to kill him as the place we were hunting makes you kill all the hogs.
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CrackerC,
 
Welcome to to the board.

   I have a question about the way you are using your dogs. You mentioned that you hunt one dog, maybe two on the ground, and that you do not use a bulldog.    Are you catching the hogs with just the one or two dogs on the ground, or are you running some curs as catch dogs as well?

yea i was wandering the same thing????? Those are some bad dogs if not  ;D

Usually one dog by itself will bay a big hog but will catch most anything less than 100-125 lbs. by themselves. It usually depends on how thick it is where the hog is stopped and how much fight the hog has. I have had them catch 150 lb hogs by themselves and bay 80 lb hogs in a briar thicket. But usually when I turn another dog to them, they are going to catch, so we get close before we do turn a second dog loose. My idea is to get the hog off his feet as quick as we can, once the second dog gets there. I don't want two or three dogs on the ground at one time and have them catch a bad boar half a mile or so away as they are going to get wrecked..... so I usually hunt one dog at a time and "hope" they bay!
Here is a 210 lb hog we caught at 1:30 AM in 10' high palmettos. My Monkey dog and my young Spur dog tried the hog but couldn't hold it. We thought it must be a big hog as we heard the impact as they tried to catch then both went to baying. We turned another Fla cur to them and it was a caught hog.
I had some bad luck last summer though, my Monkey dog caught a 80-90 lb sow, we legged it and he relayed on another hog. We tied the sow and listened for Monkey but couldn't hear him. We tracked him and he was bayed in a cypress swamp a ways from us. We loaded the sow and drove closer to him. We could drive within about 100 yards of where he was bayed, so I sent my hunting buddy to him. About the time he should have gotten to Monkey, I let a female cur out of the box to go to him. I should have led her, but I figured he was close to the hog...hindsight....anyway, she got there and I heard them catch, or try to. The hog broke and they stopped it within 50 yards in a thick swamp and tried to catch again. The hog broke again and then I heard BOTH dogs baying. I got there and it was a 200+ lb hog with no ears and it had broken my females bottom jaw, and it was hanging down...thats why she couldn't catch. That was a $450 vet bill to get her jaw put back together...........and the vet says don't hunt her as he can't fix it again as it was broken in several places.
The very next week I got my Monkey dog cut down and bled out by a different hog ... and he was the only dog on the hunt...but thats a different story!!

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Being from Polk County, FL originally, we hunted Florida curs along with using the same dogs to hunt, bay and catch cattle.  I have yet to own another breed of dog even today that was as versatile as the Florida Cur. We used two maybe three dogs on the ground and a lot of times no catch dog......the dogs would bay til they seen us or we told them to catch......and it was a caught hog.....I had a lead on some Florida curs but since have lost it.....the next time i go visit my family in Central Florida I am gonna try to find me a good female...... ;D

Cracker C...do you sell pups? The next time I am heading down tp Polk County i may call ya.....I can jump off 75 and give you a shout.  ;D

Crackerc, or Pecos

Just curious as to what type of nose they have.  Keep hearing of them but have never hunted with one.

Crackerc, what all are you gonna have at Abbeville ? I hope to go if I can get off work, I live in Macon Georgia.

I like the looks of that monkey dog crackerc.  Thanks for the pics.  We all appreciate the partin, morgan, peeples, sellers,  and other lines developed by our proud florida cowboys.  It's amazing how great cow dogs make great hog dogs.

Mine didn't hunt very wide.....about the same as your average leopard dog... a lot of times we would hunt them off a rig or airboat....just one dog, bay and catch...but as was stated by crackerc once they picked up a track they wouldn't quit it. And they would stay hooked on cattle or hogs for the duration. The ones I had would catch a nervous hog quick. And would flip an old tiger striped F1 Braford too......nose em or ear em.....never seen dogs with more heart. The thing I liked about the ones I had, they weren't suicidal.....they were catchy but were pretty crafty about it. And you get a dog that can survive the swamps were I grew up and hunted....the gators, the snakes, the quicksand.....and work cattle and hunts hogs too.......all with the same dog. Now I know some leopard dogs that would do that too, and I know of some YBM out here in Texas where I live now that can do that too....but I never seen dogs with more heart than them ol' Florida Curs.

Mine are the same way.  They are harder than blackmouths and leopards.  Real gritty.  The ones I have hunt a little deeper and have real good noses on em.  What I like about em is they start real early and love to work.

Good to hear commments from so many guys about the Fla curs. I like them, but I am be just a "little" partial to them...LOL

I actually managed ranches here in Fla for about 13 years, the last ranch we ran 500 cow/calf pairs. I used the same line of dogs to pen and work the cattle as we did to hog hunt.

My dogs started from a yellow ringneck female with about a 4" long tail. She was a cow and hog dog that came off K-Bar ranch. Just a cur dog, no papers, no "brand" name. I bred her to a red male cur a buddy had that they used on cattle, kept two females and here 6 generations later, still have the same dogs. I have bred to some good male dogs from several ranches, mostly cowdogs, and have been fortunate to have had some good dogs.  Any of you guys that go to Baydog.com have probably seen pics I posted over the years with my red Dixie female. If the pic is posted by Lefty, thats me.

My old line of dogs have pretty good noses, my Dixie female had the best nose I have ever seen on a cur dog. She could wind a hog farther than any dog I have ever hunted with. And would stay bayed for hours right by herself, even on a bad hog.

My yellow Monkey dog, that is Partin bred, doesn't have the nose my dogs have, but hustles all the time. We find a lot of hogs with him as he doesn't walk anywhere....he goes wide open and will bay many hogs in their bed during the day. Some of these cow bred curs have been bred for working cattle in pastures, so some guys have not always bred for good noses. Some like a dog with a good nose, some guys just want a little nose on them so they don't go to the neighbors cattle a mile away, but can wind a group of cattle in a pasture and go to them.

We will be in Abbeville, Ga on May 9, 2009 and will have most of our stuff with us. I don't normally carry the Garmin tracking units to the shows, due to chance of theft. We have had a few things "walk off" at some of the shows, even with us watching.

As far as pups, it seems I can't raise enough of them. I used to raise a litter every 2-3 years, only when I needed dogs. Now I have had two litters in two years and still have guys on a waiting list wanting pups. I normally get $200-$250 for an 8 week old pup and have had guys wait two years to get one.
But I hunt my females before I breed them. The last two litters my females have been 5 years old before I bred them the first time. I don't breed "started" dogs or dogs I "think" may make a hog dog. They have to prove what they can do over several years before I breed one. I think thats how I have been able to maintain good dogs over the years.

At this time I am "down" to about 9 head of grown dogs and a litter of pups. Here is a pic of the pups, only 4 pups in this litter. I bred my female to a good red male cur from south Fla I have hunted with and really like. He must have some leopard blood in him as one of the pups is spotted and I have never gotten a spotted pup from my dogs. Some of the old Fla dogs were spotted too. He hunts like I like one to, has a good nose, fairly rough but not suicidal, etc. This is his first and my females first litter, so am curious to see how the pups do. I  would bet they may be a just a "little rough.... Here is a pic of the male dog too.

Some of you guys post pics if you have any Fla dogs, I would like to see what they look like.

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Good lookin' dogs... welcome to the boards.

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Good looking pups cracker c.  If that red and white one all the way on the right is a female, I'd take her off your hands.  call me 3523288354

I'd love to see some peeples or morgan florida curs if anybody's got any.  I'll post some pics of mine soon. 

Ninja I appreciate the interest but there are about 20 guys ahead of you...LOL  And that is a female on the right, the only male is on the far left. These pups were all spoken for about 2 years ago, we have just been trying to get them on the ground.
I hunt the mother to these pups and we had a little trouble getting her bred. She had 5 pups but one was breach and stillborn, so only 4 live pups.
Here is a pic of the mother to those pups pictured above, caught on a 120 lb sow, by herself, in a cypress swamp. She found  this hog, barked 2-3 times, then it was a caught hog....
These pups will be rough I am sure! If you look at the pic of the sire, you will see numerous scars on him too.

Yes, post some pics of your dogs when you get a chance. I used to get a few pied (black & white) dogs out of these, but haven't for about 10 years now. I liked them, not sure why I don't get them anymore. I still get ringnecks though. My dogs have blood from Mann Bailey, Craig Bexley, Eddie Glisson and others. Plus I have Monkey, my Partin male that is unrelated to my other dogs.

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Hey Ninja, here are a couple of pics of another young dog of mine. This female goes back to Judge Platts dogs on the top and Overstreet Ranches dogs on the bottom. I got her from a ranch south of me to cross with my dogs if she turns out. She is out of two cow dogs but I started her on hogs. These pics show her on a small boar in a buddies 5 acre pen. This was the second time she had ever seen a hog, was 7 months old and caught right off the bat. She never even barked........I think she may be just a little rough when she gets older.....LOL
The other dog in the pic is my young dog Spur. He has the LEAST bite of any of my dogs and I had turned him loose to "bay" with her. Well, she had other ideas....

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I need some help on posting pics on here.  When I go to additional options it keeps saying the file is too big.  I shrink the picture down and get the same message.  what do I need to do.

Start a photobucket account (it is free) upload your pics to there, then it will give you an image link.......copy that link and paste it on your post.....the link will turn into a picture when it posts.....

Crackerc...those are some good pics.....on that ol' pineywood rooter......lol......man y'all aren't helping my wanting to get another Fla. Cur.......  ;) The last time I had one was in '95....... he was a yellow ring neck.....was an awesome head dog on cows and a good hog dog.  He got loose on the ranch I was working on in Summerville, GA (4L Rodeo Co.) because there was a gyp in heat and got ran over trying to get to her. I was gone to a rodeo and one of the other hands told me about it when he got to the rodeo....I was not a happy person........

Pecos21, I have gotten ringnecks from these dogs out of every litter I have ever had. Not every pup, but several ringnecks in each litter. My dogs are cow bred but I used them on both. I managed a ranch here in Fla for years, running 500 cow/calf pairs. We used the same line of dogs for cattle as we hog hunted. In fact, they were often littermates.
Here is a pic of my Spur male, a yellow ringneck. He is coming 2 years old, is sired by my Monkey dog (which is Partin bred) and out of my old cow dog female Chelsea(who is now deceased). Spur doesn't have the bite my other dogs have, but he will probably live a long time because of that......he is more of a bay dog and less of a rough catchy dog like I am used to. He is out of Monkey's first litter.
Hate to hear about you losing your dog, if you saw my pens you would know why they are the way they are. When I put one in my pens, they will be there when I get home......no chain link pens here. Heavy duty welded panels, on concrete floors with tops on the pens. I lost one dog years ago (the best cow dog I ever owned) by her getting out of a pen and I swore that wouldn't happen again.
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its good to hear some fimilar names on here .. LOL

 I am in central Fl.  also and have hunted with a lot of good cur dogs .. my dogs actually have some ol platt bmc , bossie and kempher blood lines in them ... all of the "ole" homesteaders have good dogs if they were not good they would not feed them..
 
I think if you can find any ole cowboy to give or sell you a dog or pup it should make a good one ... they worked on those lines for many many years ... the blood is there .

My scaner is down but soon as i get a new one i will scan some old pics of some great dogs i have had that are now bred into my dogs i currently have!!

the ones i have now are a lil more gritty then i would like but hunt excellent !! so its a catch 22.. mine are not gonna bark at a thing even if they are cut down and bled out ..  but  they catch hogs for me !!! sometimes we get into some bad spots !! we have all survived and keep makin it happen.. !!

all i can say is these dogs have the heart and drive it takes and are very dedicated to what they do for us !!! 

crackerc .. You have some fine lookin dogs there..  and proof of what these fl. cur dogs do is in the pics !!! 

Crackerc you have some fine looking dogs, and I can see why there is a waiting list.....my male looked REAL similiar to that male..... ;D  Nice Hog too......!!!!

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this is one of the best florida curs thats ever hit the woods.

cetchdawg, Do you sell a pup from time to time?

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Let me try this again.  80 yr florida cur line

this was a nice boar she found, bayed and helped catchdog catch.

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these are not mine, but are true working 100% partin curs, take a good look

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Good looking dog ninja......where are you out of? I was born and raised in Polk County... (Davenport).....grew up hunting at River Ranch and Avon Park Bombing range.......and of course........the swaps that skirt the orange groves in Polk, Lake, Osceola, and Higland Counties....LOL

I let the kids spoil em when they're young.  Now, this male is my buddies best cow dog and this female is a long range strike dog.  Both are real hard and gritty.  This is sellers line and is one of the best florida cur lines I've ever seen.  Realdogs has a male I sold him called TJ thats tearing em up in texas.  Most of the dogs that come out of this line are medium to long range strike dogs that shut hogs down and were only used to find and work cows until I got ahold of em. I hunt mallory swamp, some places I can't talk about, my new 32,000 acre lease and any place a yankee hasn't built a new house.

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Alright dang it!!!

If this thread is a marketing scheme for Florida Curs then its working!!!

Sure makes me want one!!! ;D

Mallory swamp!   One of the best and hardest places to hunt hogs.  So thick we've been stuck for hours before finally getting out.  Lots of places the only way to get through is to crawl through the hog tunnels.  We've killed lots of big boars out of here.  Some of the bays or catches we just let em finish and come on out.  Everybody and everything gets bloody at mallory.
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Ninja that pic takes me back.......dog boxes and whip antennas!!!!!!!!!!  ;D  I love it!!!!!! I hear ya on the Yankee thing.....we used to hunt in Kissimmee right up to Mickey's backyard......The Mouse had some hogs hanging around...LOL.....but all the development and the Snow birds moved in.....that moved us out........I was down there last year for my Grandpa's funeral and I couldn't believe the growth around Kissimmee and in Davenport where I am from...........

I have a litter on the ground as we speek but they were all spoken for before 6 weeks !!  i am workin with one of them now and he is doin pretty good a lil shy but i know he will turn out !!! i dont want to push him but he is showing enough interest at 6 weeks for me!!

Pecos I hear you on the development going on in Davenport.  I've lived in the area for 14 years and can remember hunting groves and sand mines in the area now their nothing but homes and golf courses  >:(  Sorry for getting off topic.

I am probably older ( or can I just say experienced...LOL) than most of you guys and can't begin to tell you the changes I have seen here if Fla.  I have been hog hunting in Fla since I was about 18....and I will be 50 in August. Thats 32 years of folowing dogs through palmettos, swamps, Ti Ti thickets, mangroves, etc etc.
It just saddens me to see places we used to hunt, now have houses, businesses and such as far as you can see and roads everywhere. I can remember when 192 through Kissimmee was a 2 lane road with nothing but cow pastures and orange groves...now look at it. Doesn't seem like progress to me...looks like greed.
All this talk nowadays about "going green" they should have started that movement about 50 years ago. Then maybe there would still be more green places instead of asphalt and houses.....anyway, thats a sore subject for me.....

Ninga, the Partin dogs look good. I have been to Mike Partins house several times and Roy Partins too, buying bulls and looking at dogs. I tried to breed my Dixie female to Mike's old Stumpy dog, but she didn't take. Every "true" Partin dog I have ever seen on their place was either yellow or black & tan. I never saw a leopard colored dog, brindle dog or anything else.
 
Here are a couple of pics of different litters of pups I have had over the past years. You can see I get ringencks in every litter.
Does the yellow ringneck on his back look spoiled??? LOL That is the Spur dog in the pic in an above post with the listed boar on the dogbox.

My dogs used to be really rough, catch on contact type of dogs and are still pretty rough. I have gone to hunting one dog at a time or one grown dog and one young dog together. I can't turn out two grown dogs or they are still going to pretty much catch, even though I have tried for less catch and more baying. One year, we caught over 150 BOAR hogs (not sows and not barrs, just boars we cut, marked and released) with just one bay dog (my Dixie female) and one lead in catch dog (her littermate brother Rock). That shows you don't need a whole pack on the ground to catch hogs.

Here are the puppy pics. All these dogs are now grown, several are dead.

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Yah the Ol' Standard Sand Mines...... ;D And out at Loughman.....I will prolly be coming down to my Dad's in Davenport next Spring. I am going to try to get me another Florida Cur while I am down there, unless We fly.......

They have even cleared that place probably 900 acres of it.  They have a subdivsion behind the mines now with an 18 hole golf course.  I can't even stand to think about what they have done to those woods and swamp land.  I have permision to hunt it but it's a waste of time.

Do you think these florida cur dogs could stop a hog?

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I have that same pic on my 'Puter.......awesome pic!!!!!!!

A real nice partin cur male owned by troy crouch

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100% partin florida cracker curs

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I know finding a Florida Cur that is available isn't as easy as it once was for me!!!! Man they are hard to come by!!!!  Which is why the breed still maintains it's integrity I guess............the "market" isn't flooded with them. That ringneck yellow dog I had an Old Cowboy gave to me at a horse sale in Quitman, GA. Man he was a good un but have been unable to find any "available" since he passed.

You are so right pecos21.  I've lived in florida my whole life, have access to ranches and cowboy buddies and know who has the dogs and its still hard for me to get any.  The partin family never sells any and most of the other cowboys don't sell any.  Most people that say they have florida curs really don't.  A true florida cur is one that comes from lines like the partin, morgan, peeples, sellers, norfleet, or real cowboys that use their dogs daily to work cows and have been doing so for a long time and have developed working lines from more than 4 or 5 generations.  You can't cross a blackmouth and leopard and say its a florida cur because its in florida.  If you can't trace your dogs back to working cow dog lines then its probably not a florida cur.  As you can see from most of the pictures the dogs have a unique look. The most important thing about florida curs is that they are working dogs, never show dogs and the ones that don't work are culled.  This is what has made them what they are.  Anyone looking for any I would say don't, you'll never find one.  If you can find a cowboy that has one for sale you'd better jump on it. 

As you can see from the similar looks of these partin curs and the rest of the pups and florida curs posted here, the florida cur is a breed of its own.  The most important thing and what makes the dogs so good is that they come from working backgrounds, whether cows or hogs, any nonworking unhealthy dogs are usually culled. There are no florida cur puppy mills, and they are harder than most to get.    Who knows exactly what went into these florida cur lines but whatever it is it worked. Whether they make a full circle on cattle like a partin or catch and hold or bay they are working dogs first and foremost.

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I know there are a lot of cattle ranches in texas, more than in any other state.  I would think that a lot of those dogs coming off the old ranches would be similar to the florida cur.  I'd like to see how many are  being used for hog hunting in texas, what they look like and how they hunt.  There has got to be some old texas cur cow dog lines out there.

Yah you may be correct in that statement, but where I live in Texas now, there aren't a whole lot of dogs being used on raches. It is almost taboo to use a dog here and I am not sure why. The only thing I can figure is that some hero got him some dogs and went into the "cow catching" busines and got some fences torn down.....

I know in North Georgia when I worked for the 4L we used leopard dogs and my ring neck Florida Cur when we went to catch cattle.  I am sure to the South of me they use cur dogs as the terrain is close to that of Florida/ South Georgia. But up here I haven't found but one or two guys that have curs for cattle dogs......most have Heelers they carry around in the back of their truck to let everyone know they are a cowboy..... ;D

I have been in some myrtle thickets and palmetto heads down in Florida with an F1 Braford where I was sure glad I had me a cur dog there to catch her if needed....cuz there was no room for a rope in there.....lol I started out cow hunting with a 12' cow whip and two cur dogs......and didn't know how to operate the cow whip......LOL.....but several whelps later i figured out how to run that cow whip....lol.......now I can cut a cow's ear with one...... ;D

About 5 years ago, I met a guy on the internet from Tx. I won't say his name as I am not posting this to bad mouth anyone just want to say what happened to me with a Tx dog.

He had a line of yellow curs (NOT W. Ben dogs) that he said had been in his family for years and were cow and hog dogs. Said they were silent and very cold nosed, go hunting type of dogs. But they were bay dogs, not rough like my dogs. Well, he made them sound really good, so I had to have one. I swapped him one of my pups for one of his pups. I sent him a yellow male that was a littermate to my Red and JJ dogs.
He sent me a yellow ringneck female and the guy that brought my pup back, brought 5 other dogs back from the same guy, but out of different litters. 

I raised that pup with Red and JJ. Treated her like the, started her like them and hunted her like them...for two years. And she never would hunt or bay.......would just follow you in to a bay or caught hog and stand around and wag her tail. Wasn't shy, wasn't scared of a hog, just had no interest in one. Meanwhile, Red and JJ were finding and catching hogs.....

I decided she wasn't going to work for me, so I asked the guy what eh wanted to do with her. Well, he wanted her back as he had lost the mother (she died of old age) during that two years.
He also told me he had gotten the dog from me wrecked and had him in the bathtub hooked to IV's.  Seems he had him out with 3-4 of his dogs and they got on a big bad hog and got across a river or something. He was used to his dogs baying from a distance. The dog from me apparently caught the hog and had no help from the other dogs and got wrecked.

So we traded dogs back even though the dog I got back still had a hole in his chest you could see inside through. The dog I got back died within a month even though I kept him on antibiotics. He just never ate well, and never acted right.

The dog I sent back to Tx, the one that wouldn't hunt, find or bay a hog.....well, she had a litter of Tx pups that year.....

Of the 5 other pups brought back from Tx, and given to 3 other guys, NONE of them made the grade and all were culled.

So I can believe it when you guys say the cur dogs are not used on ranches like they are here in Fla.

This little girl is as good as it gets.  She's been baying since she was 3 months old, will roll out 1,000 yards and shut a hog down.  She's got a great nose and is making a top strike dog.  Her brother is my buddies best cow dog and her mom and dad is from one of the best working cow dog lines I've ever seen.  She's a full sister to scott's (realdogs) TJ dog out in texas from a different litter.  She's built right and fast as lightning.  Hopefully I can keep her alive long enough to get a litter out of her.  She has no respect for a bull or a boar hog. This is the gyp I was talking to you about crackerc. 


(http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq123/ninja123_photos/cracker1.jpg)

another pic.  I forgot to mention she's not even a year old yet.


(http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq123/ninja123_photos/cracker2.jpg)

Sorry thought this was a good post so i thought i would bring it back to life.

never find one? is this true?
I was talking to a guy in okeechobee today who says he has cracker curs that are mostly partin blood.  he says they have no papers, and said most people who say they have partin blood are lying. He says he can trace his bloodline way back. he has kemmer, black mouth, and cracker dogs, he works cattle and hunt hogs. says he prefers the cracker curs.
is this all bull? im going out there soon to check out his dogs again, are there any questions i should ask? any way to semi prove what the dogs really are?

Junebug    (http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv292/Rickards_photos/001-3.jpg)

June ,Levi and Junebug          (http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv292/Rickards_photos/021.jpg)

Honey.   She is 1/2 Fla. cur 1/2 Rednose                    (http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv292/Rickards_photos/004-2.jpg)

Pepper and Tetra. Tetra on the right is one of Honeys pups. Not as tall as her brother Levi but will getter done.                    (http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv292/Rickards_photos/002.jpg)

This post SUCKS, dot get me wrong it is great info. BUT I can't buy one of these dogs and I want one bad!! You Florida guys cant even get one much less us Texas boys. I want one!

Junebug and Scooter littermates            (http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv292/Rickards_photos/IMG_0018.jpg)

Any old ranchers I have talked to say they don't sell dogs. If somebody needs one they give them one if they have it to spare. If someone from one ranch is down on dogs they get them from another. I have got several dogs in the past from Judge Platt he never charged me a dime and knew I used them to hunt hogs. The line  dogs we use now we have been using for years. We keep them between our hunting buds.  8)

Thats Gay  :o

How's that ??  Please explain  ??? ???

I think he means because no one else can get ahold of one.

  Yea i just mean good dogs should be bred, in the end when dogs are more available it keeps every body in a better situation. As rough as these of dogs are it seems yall would want some around.
  But I dont care. after thinking about it there are alot of dogs here in Tx that are short range, real catchy in the right opportuniy (hog smart), and will not quit a track or a hog once they start it....doesnt seem that special. .02