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HOG & DOGS => HOG DOGS => Topic started by: Purebreedcolt on October 09, 2014, 08:00:47 pm



Title: Rcd? Lol
Post by: Purebreedcolt on October 09, 2014, 08:00:47 pm
Ok it is starting to get on my nerves. A rcd means running CATCH dog. If it bays it is NOT a rcd it is a gritty to rough dog.


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: Reuben on October 09, 2014, 08:10:33 pm
and a true running catch dog needs to be short ranged and quit the race if he can not catch the hog in a quarter mile...or it won't live long in my opinion...overheating or taking a whipping from a bad boar with no help around is a problem I don't care to deal with...

rough dogs with a some sense is about as rough as I will ever want...I want medium range with lots of bottom and hunt...and rough to go along with it...


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: fonzie on October 09, 2014, 08:13:08 pm
Also a RCD catches any size hog.. Not "he'll catch anything 250 and under"


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Post by: Judge peel on October 09, 2014, 08:19:57 pm
Lol that's funny stuff why would people thought get on your nerves people think what they say is right not what you say lol. Most of my dogs will catch and will catch or be caught together on any hog but they ain't rcd and a few of the I use as catch dogs if a dog ever bays then he will bay again


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Post by: Shotgun wg on October 09, 2014, 08:23:08 pm
To me a RCD can find run and catch. A dog that don't go but a 1/4 mile is nothing but a CD u can send. If it can't spend all day on the ground running with the other dogs it ain't a RCD.


Shotgun
Arkansas


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Post by: Purebreedcolt on October 09, 2014, 08:24:16 pm
Judge peel it is because I click on it to see this rcd and it turns out to be nothing but gritty lol


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: Judge peel on October 09, 2014, 08:25:08 pm
Yes sir shotgun I like


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: Judge peel on October 09, 2014, 08:27:54 pm
Lol purebred colt


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: Reuben on October 09, 2014, 08:36:10 pm
To me a RCD can find run and catch. A dog that don't go but a 1/4 mile is nothing but a CD u can send. If it can't spend all day on the ground running with the other dogs it ain't a RCD.


Shotgun
Arkansas

a running catch dog that will catch 2 miles deep in the woods won't have a long life span...I was thinking about starting a thread on RCD...I can't say I have lots of experience with them but the ones I was around didn't live long...the borderline rough/catchy were a better choice in my opinion because they back up and bay when needed and catch again if the hog wants to break...


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Post by: Muddogkennels on October 09, 2014, 08:37:29 pm
Ya people selling bay breakers!


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: Judge peel on October 09, 2014, 08:39:26 pm
I got a few that have caught a lot of hogs out a mile plus it can get scary but that's when good vest comes in handy


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: Shotgun wg on October 09, 2014, 08:42:19 pm
U don't let them get that far from u. U also run them with rough catchy dogs. U also run vest on them. If I walk hunted I would not use one. I hunt off a wheeler. If they are 500 or more yards I'm easing toward them or in the direction they are headed. If my dogs get 700 to 900 yards I'm closing a gap as fast as I can. I don't want an iffy dog. I don't want one that catches anything 250 or less. I want a dog that will catch it if it will grunt or squeal. Them iffy dogs are what gets dogs killed.


Shotgun
Arkansas


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: Judge peel on October 09, 2014, 08:45:32 pm
That's the truth shotgun


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: Reuben on October 09, 2014, 08:54:40 pm
an iffy dog alone is fine with me...but when they commit to catching they are committed and should be reliable or it is not a real gritty or catchy dog...


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Post by: Sambo5500 on October 10, 2014, 09:03:34 am
I have what I think most people would consider a running catch dog. He's cur x pit and he will run with the other dogs and catch
anything that they strike. Sometimes he will come back to the truck with us if the sign isn't real hot or the dogs get really far out. As soon as they start barking he's gone though. I'm ok with that because it keeps him from getting to wore out. When he's by himself he will walk hunt out a few hundred yards and has caught many pigs solo this way. When he's by himself he will bark about 3 times then it's on. He has been cut up for sure but never to bad. I run him with other rough dogs and always with a vest.


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: justincorbell on October 10, 2014, 12:09:16 pm
and a true running catch dog needs to be short ranged and quit the race if he can not catch the hog in a quarter mile...or it won't live long in my opinion...overheating or taking a whipping from a bad boar with no help around is a problem I don't care to deal with...

rough dogs with a some sense is about as rough as I will ever want...I want medium range with lots of bottom and hunt...and rough to go along with it...

yes sir, we are on the same page Mr. Reuben


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: bignasty on October 10, 2014, 01:20:44 pm
i evaluate a dogs ability on what he can do on his own ,one dog out.a true rcd will never back up and bay no matter what. Now about the range-if my dog quits on me in 1/4 mile whats that 500 yards or so, i will get rid of him.the way i hunt and where i hunt i can cut over to next block and stay in the game.knowing your woods,having a garmin knowing how to use it,and having physical ability to keep up is whay makes the diferance.now about the type/breed of dog-ha ha i aint going there,thats how one maintains an advantage.


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: Judge peel on October 10, 2014, 01:57:03 pm
Big nasty true that as we use to say if a wimp can't hang a wimp shouldn't of came lol


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: Reuben on October 10, 2014, 09:34:18 pm
most catch dogs get turned in to the bay from close up for several reasons...one reason is because we want to make sure the hog is not bayed in the middle of a 30'x40' rose hedge and that could get ugly real quick...or turn the dog from too far away and the dog can get over heated by time we make it to the dogs...and the chances of a cur dog getting cut down goes up if caught to long without assistance from us...a good catch dog will never give it up no matter what...he will get the job done or die trying...

now a running catch dog is supposed to be of the same caliber as the lead in catch dog except he runs with the pack...so the issues are the same except we might not be there to assist no matter how young and agile we are...sometimes we can get there quick and other times not...

lots of good cur dogs throw caution to the wind when the catch dog makes it to the bay...

quite a few rough dogs have the sense to gauge themselves in most situations especially if they have made a long chase...fresh out of the box and they sometimes throw caution to the wind...

this is my opinion from my observations/experiences over quite a few years of running dogs...



Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: Florida Curdog on October 10, 2014, 10:56:12 pm
They should  find , trail & catch  solo not with other dogs.  If it barks its a bay dog.  I've caught some big rank hogs with my male. He might be 200 yards out or a mile out.  ;)


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: bignasty on October 11, 2014, 04:57:37 am
They should  find , trail & catch  solo not with other dogs.  If it barks its a bay dog.  I've caught some big rank hogs with my male. He might be 200 yards out or a mile out.  ;)

yes sir :)


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: Sambo5500 on October 11, 2014, 05:46:21 am
I don't think the barking that my dog does by himself is a bark I would consider a bay type bark as much as it is a locator type bark to tell me he's on a pig. It's always just 2 or 3 quick barks when he first sees the hog then the fights on. I also agree that a true RCD should be able to do it all on his own. 


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: slckhunter1978 on October 11, 2014, 06:11:41 am
Ok it is starting to get on my nerves. A rcd means running CATCH dog. If it bays it is NOT a rcd it is a gritty to rough dog.

Man yall read my mind glad to see someone jumped on that!!!! Should do all of em that way..... :o


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: Reuben on October 11, 2014, 07:30:16 am
They should  find , trail & catch  solo not with other dogs.  If it barks its a bay dog.  I've caught some big rank hogs with my male. He might be 200 yards out or a mile out.  ;)

if your dog is a mile out and is caught on a 275 pound boar then there is that possibility he will overheat or get beat up pretty bad by the boar...is he a solid catch dog or is he a smart catchy dog that knows how to keep one stopped and only catch as needed?

a big boar that is fresh can beat a dog pretty bad that is a solid catch dog or the dog can overheat holding a big boar that is a mile out...


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: bignasty on October 11, 2014, 01:05:24 pm
They should  find , trail & catch  solo not with other dogs.  If it barks its a bay dog.  I've caught some big rank hogs with my male. He might be 200 yards out or a mile out.  ;)

if your dog is a mile out and is caught on a 275 pound boar then there is that possibility he will overheat or get beat up pretty bad by the boar...is he a solid catch dog or is he a smart catchy dog that knows how to keep one stopped and only catch as needed?

a big boar that is fresh can beat a dog pretty bad that is a solid catch dog or the dog can overheat holding a big boar that is a mile out...

i understand this question is for flcurdog but i will answer till he gets here.
he is niether of the two choices you have provided,he is a running catch dog.

there is always a possibility of many things that can happen no matter how far or how big,the point is we want a dog that gets the job done hard core no bay no quit no prisoners no limit no help,understand?


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: Florida Curdog on October 11, 2014, 02:15:50 pm
Exactly ^^^^^   He hits like a freight train & locks down like a bull gator.   The biggest hog he has trailed & caught solo was in Folkston Georgia.  It went 382 on the scale.  It beat the piss out of him but he never let go & never barked.


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: Reuben on October 11, 2014, 03:19:21 pm
I hear what you say and sounds great...


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Post by: Florida Curdog on October 11, 2014, 03:55:15 pm
Here's a few pics of him. (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/11/be3f14c707291bdf632f0fb8445d3694.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/11/cf519373c20d83318291fc48f4a04c3b.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/11/4fb4a2d739e065b55a0d74989bbade76.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/11/ae917192fee966c2bd3d34e1b52104b9.jpg)


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: Reuben on October 11, 2014, 04:21:03 pm
good looking dogs...




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Post by: Florida Curdog on October 14, 2014, 10:47:32 pm
Thanks


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: Judge peel on October 15, 2014, 11:17:18 am
Florida curdog nice looking dogs man that must be a heck of a dog to handle up on a boar of that size good job they make you proud when you know what they can do


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: AW on October 15, 2014, 12:28:48 pm
Here is my catch dog Jack hasn't been hunting in a while but is all catch no bark and has some bottom so I've led him in the last few years he is a foundation bred dog(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/10/16/sy4uta2y.jpg)


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: Reuben on October 15, 2014, 03:48:38 pm
good looking dog^^


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Post by: Florida Curdog on October 15, 2014, 07:35:32 pm
Thanks Judge peel.   I bought him off a guy in 2011.  He was a little over a year old when I got him. The guy used him as a catch dog out at the space center.   Here's some pictures of the hog with my buddies with it.  I didn't get any pictures of him with it. He wasn't in picture shape if you know what I mean.

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/15/1732c4b5f71966a4e80a5e59a7de5d5b.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/15/2c13c485bbb418a1733bda7bd0182b63.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/15/a0370ff95a0729e29b31a921701ae136.jpg)


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: TheRednose on October 17, 2014, 12:24:05 am
Dang that's a big hog!  You have some really nice curs Florida Curdog, I really like how most of yours have some of the bulldog look and build to them. Nice dogs.


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: Judge peel on October 17, 2014, 10:39:42 am
Florida cur dog wow brother that's a beast he must have been eating biscuits and gravy like me lol


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Post by: Judge peel on October 17, 2014, 10:40:59 am
Aw nice dog as well like his build and looks


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Post by: Hollowpoint on October 17, 2014, 11:10:05 am
Alright, allow me to threadjack just a bit. What do you guys mean when you say a dog has "bottom"?


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: bignasty on October 17, 2014, 11:18:49 am
Bottom is how long/far the dog persues its prey


Title: Re: Rcd? Lol
Post by: Florida Curdog on October 17, 2014, 06:16:00 pm
Thanks