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Title: Anti biotics effecting milking ability????
Post by: Goose87 on October 20, 2017, 04:36:48 pm
Has anyone on here ever had a female quit milking and start drying up after a course of antibiotics?

I have a walker gyp that has a litter of puppies on the ground off of one of Cajuns males, I always turn my females with pups loose in the evening times and leave them loose all night and lock them up before I head to work in the mornings, the pups are 3 weeks old now so the bitch dog was more reluctant to leave them for longer periods of time and jumped, I'm assuming a coyote behind my house the other night, I was at my parents eating supper and heard their yard dogs raising nine kinds of heck and stepped outside and heard her running the wind out of something, so I went back to my place and checked my dog yard and she was gone, next morning she comes dragging in and evidently either ran the coyote down or it turned on her and she was chewed up a bit, nothing bad but had a good wound on her back teat quarter, I shrugged it off and sprayed vetrycn gel on it put her in her pen, fed her and went to work, got home that evening and went a fed up and fed her again and noticed she wasn't looking like herself, I should've looked her over but figured she was just sore and stove up, next evening I was feeding up and gave her a good looking over and noticed she was running a high fever and looked at the sore on her bag and it looked infected a bit and was beginning to clabber up and develop mastitis, I gave her some baytril and amoxicillin, that evening and just amoxicillin the next day and now it seems as if she is starting to dry up, luckily I know how to make a female milk out like a jersey cow and have another female that has pups a week old that I started nursing the walker cross pups on every day and feeding them goat milk twice a day...


I've ran into just about every problem a guy could have with dogs over the years but this is a first, I've never had cattle dry up with a round of anti biotics but can only pin point them as the reason as to why she's drying up because she's been producing plenty of milk until I give them to her...


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Title: Re: Anti biotics effecting milking ability????
Post by: Mike on October 20, 2017, 08:09:40 pm
Never heard of that happening before Goose, but I'm glad you have a surrogate for the pups.


Title: Re: Anti biotics effecting milking ability????
Post by: Goose87 on October 20, 2017, 10:14:20 pm
It's the only thing I can figure that caused it, she is a first time mother so I took that into consideration but she has been producing milk great for the past 3 weeks stopped this week as soon as I give her the anti biotics, her fever has gone and the hardness in her two back quarters is gone also but when you squeeze one of her teats nothing comes out, I let them nurse once a day off the other female, I do 5 and do the other 5 a little while later and give them goats milk twice a day and started them on a little bit of can dog food mixed into the goats milk...


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Title: Re: Anti biotics effecting milking ability????
Post by: Cajun on October 21, 2017, 08:59:06 pm
Just make sure Jack Jr. gets plenty of milk.  >:D  Hope she comes around but one more week & they should be eating good.


Title: Re: Anti biotics effecting milking ability????
Post by: Goose87 on October 22, 2017, 10:57:52 am
They hit 4 weeks yesterday, and I've got them eating some canned food mixed with the goat milk and they are devouring it good, and all are still slick and spunky little boogers...


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Title: Re: Anti biotics effecting milking ability????
Post by: Goose87 on October 22, 2017, 09:12:36 pm
Well I found out a useful piece of information today, went to visit a friend of mine who is as sharp as they come with farming and could teach some veterinarians a trick or two about backwoods medicines and asked him about antibiotics effecting lactation and he said absolutely, even showed me some medicines he had to give dairy cows to dry them up and take them out of production and one of the main ingredients in the medicine was penicillin...


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Title: Re: Anti biotics effecting milking ability????
Post by: Mike on October 23, 2017, 07:57:59 am
What antibiotic does he recommend giving to a lactating female?


Title: Re: Anti biotics effecting milking ability????
Post by: Goose87 on October 23, 2017, 05:53:27 pm
He said as long as it's not in large amounts over the course of a week or longer he said they will slow down on milk production some but if she's otherwise healthy and has a good diet that it shouldn't be a lingering problem, just got done feeding up and my female has been off anti biotics for a week now and I've been doubling down on the fat in her diet and she's starting to produce better now, I'm still supplementing the goats milk twice a day and canned food mixed with it in the evenings just for safe measure...

Another thing he pointed out that if a lactating female is on antibiotics and her pups are nursing that the pups will lose hair in spots, nothing serious but if it's noticed it's happening to not be alarmed thats it's normal, he took me to another farm and showed me dairy calves that eat out of a bucket, the milk they are drinking is from cows treated with AB's and instead of wasting the milk bc it can't be sold or used they feed their bottle calves and some of those calves were missing hair around their muzzles from where they stick it in the milk, he said he has no explanation for it but is sure there is and it's just something he's seen time after time over the years and it's nothing to be alarmed about...


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Title: Re: Anti biotics effecting milking ability????
Post by: Reuben on October 23, 2017, 08:20:28 pm
Good info right their...thanks


Title: Re: Anti biotics effecting milking ability????
Post by: Goose87 on October 27, 2017, 05:25:41 pm
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Title: Re: Anti biotics effecting milking ability????
Post by: Cajun on October 28, 2017, 07:12:05 am
They look good Goose.