EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Checked the calendar just the other day. Thought I had a few more days left to get prepped for pups, but as luck would have it, she pushed them out with the cold front. Woke up this morning to 8 new leopard pups out of My ole Sketch bitch. Bred right and bred right. Hopefully they’ll be worth something. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201016/45ff57dfd8d40c88807c248d513bf2b1.jpg)
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They're painted up real nice.

My money is on the brindle one.  Nice looking pups.

My money is on the black one... hahahaha!

Good looking pups Slim.

No love for the painted ones I see  ;D

I’m gonna take the leopard gyp every time when it comes to these dogs!  Thanks guys. I am pumped. If anyone is interested in them get with me. I’m gonna have to get em gone pretty quick after weaning. We are in full swing deer season on the ranch and I don’t need 8 extra dogs running around. Not sure on M/F yet but there will be some males i will look to get in to a hunting home.


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Good looking puppies hope they turn out for you

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Right colors for sure. Good luck with them bud.

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Thomas, on the daddy’s top side These go back to those same leopard dogs old man Woodward and them guys started off those dough belly dogs.


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Yeah I've been kicking this around pretty heavy. Your pups would be an out cross for me with the distant kinship that you spoke of. I give you a holla this afternoon hopefully. The youngest boy has a baseball tournament this weekend. Those dogs you speak of were really nice dogs. They were high percentage dogs that were very well rounded, in my opinion. I have a feeling your gonna like this litter a lot.

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Thomas, I don’t know if my dang Messages on this app ever send. 979-505-6285 holler at me whenever

Good looking pups.


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3 weeks old. Healthy and getting around good. Starting to see a little spunk and personality.

(The plastic tote has got to be the best idea I’ve ever had when it comes to dogs. Works awesome for raising pups)

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They sure are purdy

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Pups are lookin good Slim. Keep up the good work man.


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Slim that’s what most of my dog houses are, the IBC plastic totes, I’ve got one attached to a set of kennels that I raise pups in, I took some 4x4 wooden blocks and screwed them close to the corners as I could and fastened 2x4s to the tops of the blocks to create a 4 inch rail all the way around  bottom of the house to prevent any pups from being mashed...

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Got em pretty much all the way weaned. CRC came and picked up his male this past weekend. We were both really excited to get one of these pups back on his yard. He was responsible for breeding sketch 5 years ago or so and had a bad run last year and lost both her mom and dad.
  Everybody else should be headed this way sometime this week to get theirs, and after that I’m waiting on deer season to be over with. Picked up 25k acres about 8 minutes from my front door. I’m ready to get back after it. Last round we made was on September 27th.

That is a GREAT looking set of puppies!  If they hunt half as good as they look you'll be in business!

Slim, they for sure look good. The build of that dark leopard pup is super nice.


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T-Dog that’s my pick of the litter. Got her sitting shotgun right now headed back from the gin picking up cottonseed


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Lol that’s awesome


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They’re working these days. 2 males and 3 females doing really good and another male trying to turn on. 1 male and 1 female on cows and rest on hogs right now.


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Well you have to count that next generation a sucess, glad they turned out for you.

Colton those pups must be built more similar to the sire? They look like they have a little more body than ole Sketch. I’m glad they’re working for you.


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They’re looking good Slim, have you been doing much hunting lately? I believe I saw you post about working out of town a lot


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Great job looking awesome enjoy em


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These pups daddy is an own son of sketch’s from her first litter. They go back to her on both sides lol. Line breeding if it works.


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No sir. Haven’t hunted since I was home in December. Got 2 of my buddies keeping things going while I’m away. I am in Knoxville Tn right now. 994 miles from my home in college station. Me about 1100 from my dog pens.


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I remember that now that you said it. Funny how things revert back. Genetics are crazy


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Tracker has made a dog down in Kennedy county for my buddy Nathan, here’s a recent pic from him. SJ is right up the road in Wilson county making a hand on cows.
 To my knowledge the rest of litter number 2 has been killed off. Litter number 3 has 3 left alive. They’re all on cows. Ones in Willow Springs, Tx working for Fritsch Cattle Company. 2 are down in the Valley out of Hebbronville working on the East Foundation as cowdogs.

   Litter number 1 has 3 still alive. 2 are cow dogs. A male and female. Brian Adams in Lexington has Scooby and the Clay Iselt has Tiggy around Giddings, and If you’re ever at La Grange or Round Top farm and Ranch and you see a real pretty yella gyp lounging around the store. That is the owners gyp and she is a truck dog. He used to hunt her daddies line of dogs back years ago with my uncle.
Gonna try and get some current pics of all these dogs.
And the best news of all is it looks like sketch finally took again and we’re looking like I’ll have a litter on the ground around may 10. Fingers crossed whatever she has is healthy, she can raise them all, and we can get em to their 2 year old year to finally see just how good they can be on hogs. Time now to HURRY UP AND WAIT.


 


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Good luck bud. You’re due for some good luck.


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Walked out the house this morning to smoke rolling out the kennels. Sketch dropped some heat the the pressure change last night. 61 days since first tie. Had just spit out number 8 or so when I left for work.


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Well they have good color. I hope they have good instincts too.


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Finally got to go put my hands on Tracker. He is his mommas son through and through. Unfortunately weather didn’t allow for a hunt but we’re gonna get his momma and him together when she gets back in the woods from having these pups. Had to take Shaw down to Nathan who has tracker and pick up my gyp pup from him. He’s got a some dogs go back pretty deep to The Mellmans stock.  (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230509/7c185e58c07811d3d1d24d2dd2769ddc.jpg)
She’s sharp as a tack and pays attention to everything. She went to work with me today. Got to ride and doctor yearlings with me and was chained up behind me at the chute while processing. Had 400 lb yearlings stepping all over the top of her and never flinched. I’m starting back from square one but I am about to build me another set of dogs for next year between her and sketch’s litter.


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Mellman stock is a solid line of dogs. Can be real goofy if they change hands more than once or twice, but they’ve got nose and bottom for sure, hardly any grit unless crossed over something else.

He has her parents(she’s off a father x daughter cross) and they are pretty nice. His dogs and mine did real good for us when we was hunting together. Was more than happy when he offered one. Their kind of bottom will get you in trouble if you aren’t careful. Atleast in my area where big acreage is all but a thing of the past.  They get a mile out of your permission around here they could be 8 places over.


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Hope they turn out for you

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I’ve seen some dogs with that blood pull some hogs straight outta their butts when the hunt was about over with. We hunted hard all day and couldn’t move anything, then all of a sudden she decided to cold trail off some tracks that were there that morning and bayed a good boar in his bed alil over a mile away and we stayed in hogs with the relaying. I’ve also seen the bottom you’re talking about, it’s something I require in my dogs, or at least use to, now I could care less to run one 4 plus hours, much less from daylight to dark.

Yes sir. I am of a similar opinion just because we are fortunate enough these days to have a decent hog population in a lot of the country were running now.

Love catching the hard to catch ones, and we can get it done at times, but sometimes the numbers and getting a little bit easier hogs caught does more for young dogs I feel, and the country is just getting harder to have those no quit, take them as far as they want to kind of dogs.


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I’m not gonna quit having those stay put, do what it takes types. Places have gotten smaller and will continue to. Technology though has improved and so if my dogs get on a place they shouldn’t be or gonna get into trouble, I’ll mash that tone button and reel them in. If this president gets his way it won’t matter for any of us if we have a 5 minute or five hour dog. This country is doing its best to become third world like. My nephew and several more officers were in a gun fight last night trying to execute a search warrant. The suspect and another officer were both killed. Makes hog dogs seem pretty irrelevant in a sense. I say this not to high jack the thread, but just to feed into the insanity out there and we gotta be careful especially if we find ourselves somewhere we might or might not be 100% ok being. If you don’t have a handle on your dogs it’s probably a good idea to change that if for nothing else but the safety of us and our dogs.


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make sure deputy dawg keeps his head down.....the crazies aint worth it!

I second that….

The world is becoming a much smaller place.

The ‘great wide open’ has shrunken into the ‘good few private’.

I’m glad the deputy dawg came out unscathed but feel for the family of his brother!

I had little experience with hunting with some them mellmans, they will get you in a bind lol. Really good dogs tho, in todays world probably better as a outcross unless your ‘freedom rings’ cause the can get gone

And yeah… the crazies ain’t worth it. I see it every day…

Good luck with the pups slim. If the work as pretty as they look and follow in their progenitors steps you arta be set up good.

We certainly aren’t shortening our dogs up any and I swear by the tone button and having dogs who understand what it means. That’s one of my biggest things about the mentality I want my dogs to have. Need to be focused on the hog and the task at hand, but also keep their Witt’s about them enough to sense all the other things going on around them. Such as me crawling in there and setting up for a shot over them, or toning them out because they’re somewhere we can’t go do our part for them.

 We have done our part to make sure we have good relationships with land owners, and a good reputation as young men in the community in general. The day before a hunt I am liable to make 10 different phone calls to people to let them know we’re in the area. Seems these days as small town kids who have done some growing up we find people that used to turn us away in highschool, now calling, asking us if we can come put some pressure on the hogs.

Around the precon yard I manage here, I have over 4k acres blocked up, it is probably somewhere between 20-30 land owners. It’s a lot of work to make sure you communicate with that many people effectively enough to stay in good graces with everyone, but if we don’t do it. We’d be sitting at home wishing we had somewhere to go.

I guess what I meant by my above post was in country with enough hogs, if you’re simply trying to get young dogs kicked on and going the right direction. Understanding what we’re asking of them, I’d have to say I feel a caught hog, and further more multiple in a day or short time frame, can do more for a young dog, than catching one or 2 a week at the end of mile(s) long races. We know what our seasoned dogs are capable of and love when they go and remind us and we get to latch hold of a good hog after a long race, just feels like sometimes we didn’t accomplish as much when the dust settles if the year old pups got left behind or fell out half way through and didn’t get to see it from start to end. Once you get them sure enough going and they flip that switch. Then comes the fun part “how good are you?”

I am still after a kennel full of “you hear them bark, we’re gonna see the meat at the end” dogs.  Hopefully this cross is another step towards that.

As for the shooting Thomas, I saw the headlines when I woke up for work this am. Heart breaking. I know Dillion through mutual friends/acquaintances. I love a good small town LEO who is out there for the right reasons, he sure seems like one. Hate he had to be apart of an event like that. Everyday it’s another headline make me truly think I won’t ever have kids. I can’t hardly stand this world anymore. Certainly not anything I want to bring children of mine in to. Not a world where I don’t even think I can protect them from someone who wishes to do them harm.

  I just wish everyone would leave everyone the heck alone. As long as you arent taking from or hurting someone else, I don’t care what you do. Don’t shove your beliefs and opinions in my face and I promise not to shove mine on you. Even if I think mine are better lol.

Thank you sir. She had 10 and we are down to 8. Runt didn’t make it through the first night and there was a 2nd that was about 2/3 the size of the others that expired yesterday. Really sucked. For first time, ignorantly, I made the brainless decision to grab a bale of shavings from the horse barn at work and put it in her welping pen. I think it is what cost me for sure the 2nd one if not both. Beat myself up pretty good after fighting for an hour to keep the 2nd alive. Not forsure it’s what happened, but sketch is a great mom so either she knew something was up and they weren’t viable, or I made a mistake with the shavings. 39 pups now and knock on wood she’s gonna wean 37 of them if these 8 make it.

Sadly I’m a huge gyp man. I’ve gotten along with them better, they’ve made the better dogs in this blood it seems, and I just always seemed to pick them. The litter was split at 5 and 5 and both she lost were females. The remaining 3 ain’t leaving, and looks like we’re keeping some males for ourselves too instead of sending them to buddies and other dog men we foster relationships with to really test these dogs. Part of it, but sucks none the less.


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Here they are. 2nd pic is whats left. Freaking shavings. What was I thinking.


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I agree on all points. It is getting harder and harder finding places to run these Plotts and other long range dogs. Tritronics and Garmen have brought dog training to a whole new level. I myself do not know why anyone would want to be in law enforcement in todays world when it seems so many hate groups are putting a target on them. That being said coming from a family that has several law enforcement people in it, and friends,  I have the utmost respect and admiration for them.
  Slim those are some pretty pups.

Nice looking pups, I had a mother and daughter that I raised 4 litters off and never lost a pup. A good brood bitch is worth her wt. in gold. I was running different dogs before that with bad mom's and it just sucked to have to worry and fuss with them. I have never used shavings till they are older. Always used blankets and changed them regular. I put a 2x4 on edge about 3" above the floor so the momma couldn't squish one against the wall. Good luck with these pups Slim.

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This is a whelping box I built for a buddy. It’s made out a air handler box, so it’s metal and insulated. There’s the door for the gyp to go in and out and to the left of that there is another cover that can be removed so that a fan can be put on it. There’s a screen on the inside to keep the dogs off of the fan. One end has a handle all the way across so that it can be moved by one person and wheels on the opposite end. There is a full size door on the end with wheels so that you can in and out pretty easy to get pups or clean it. There is a bumper rail around the bottom as well to help prevent pups getting mashed between the wall and the mother. There’s also a place to hang a heat lamp inside.


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And thanks for the well wishes fellas! I know he and I both appreciate it. He’s family of course but way more than that to me. He’s a good man and I’m proud of him. Don’t think I don’t give him hell though! No free passes here, lol.


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Nice pups Slim hope they live up to yalls standards.

That's a terrible thing that happened out there and yall ain't lieing the world is about as messed up and volatile as it can be these days it sure does make me worry about my kids and the next generation as a whole.

Unfortunately momma has lost 3 pups. All females. She’s doing her damndest, but she’s got a few bad tits and I guess there just wasn’t enough to go around.
 Seems she’s down to a manageable 7 and is taking care of them. This weather surely hasn’t helped. She’s been moved into the garage in a crate the last few days. Not ideal but the weather just isn’t playing fair. She’s got one left that is bit smaller but I’m helping him along with a bottle as I can. Seems he’s doing good. If we can get them all to the 2 week mark this Sunday I think we will be in the clear. Tough deal as we were hoping to move to all females between me and my two hunting buddies. Luckily Rhett and Tim have a litter on the ground a bit older than these out of some good dogs and we got plenty stock to raise to keep us where we want to be come next spring. I think I’ve got my 3 picked barring any of them demanding they stay here as they get closer to weaning. Last 2 females are the sure enough bigguns of the bunch and they will be staying here.
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That's a sweet dog yard right there, and a really really nice whelping box too!

Hey Slim I ran into this exact issue too when I bred my very best bitch who was 7 years old last year. She delivered 7 and we had to give her a shot to induce labor to get the last 3 out (still born). She only had 4 or 5 good tits, and so she picked two she didn't want and moved them out on her own. Pretty crazy that she knew, we ended up losing her due to a uterine infection but I was able to save and raise all 5 pups.

Best of luck to you with the pups, they sure look nice. I've been following along with your dogs progression and it's been fun to see. Stay after it!

Rednose, this guy is rich so he has the best of everything! He hunts coast to coast and north to south borders. He’s got the best of the best blooded dogs from the who’s who in that world. Some people just have it made!!!


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Nice pups bud


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Misdemeanor (misty)

Real nice pups with some character


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6 months old and 1st time for my guero and spoon to see a hog. Misty’s 2nd. Let hog out of the trailer and it was on from the jump. Come on January.


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Maybe it’s just me but I can’t get it to open.


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Hold over the link and click open in browser thomas. Or atleast that makes it work for me. If I just click the link it won’t open it.

 For any of the older crowd on here that was on here 10+ years ago. That JRT shorty in that video I just picked up from Mr. James and Clayton Hollub over here in schulenburg. Him and another had gotten after the neighbors cat and needed a new home so I went and got them.

Here’s same link copied from internet and not the Vimeo app. Maybe this works. https://vimeo.com/875015711


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Your a genius it worked.


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Lost guero to the fm road about 1/2 mile from the house. Always something with these sketch pups. Christmas eve eve I took spoon and Misty and sketch down to the bottom behind my house and casted them. 8 months old First time for them to be collared and sent “hunting”. They left like some 3 year olds off the flatbed right behind sketch. They made it about 400 with sketch and split off. Any track spoon comes across, he’s gonna tell you and everything else in the woods about it. Lmao.  His style, how he travels, and trail’s, to me is way more “houndy” than what these leopard dogs typically are. Misty is tighter mouthed. Only barks if she can see what she’s chasing. They chastised a deer or 2 and then a few cows. Let em run for an hour. Only went to go get them off the cow. https://vimeo.com/897899726

Gathered them back after sketch returned from the neighbors. Went to other end of the branch and casted them behind the working pens. They drop down in to the branch go about 300 and stand something up. It broke in short burst a couple of times 50 yards or so. Away then back. Away then back. Kept waiting to hear a coyote howl as I suspected that’s what they had come across. Though that never came. I waited a little to long to grab Lizzo and head to them. They broke south(only big hogs run that way in the past) and race was on. Picked them up about a mile down the branch where it crosses the road. No hog to be had, but they did as good as I could have asked for that being first time out. https://vimeo.com/897899966 now we wait for 3rd weekend of January.


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Man I hate you lost your pup. Probably means that pup was good. It doesn’t seem to happen to the sorry ones.


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