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Got high hopes for this pup. I bred Showtime back to his mother Amber. Both dogs have cold noses and a lot of drive. Time will tell. Double bred on my Showboat dog. Amber is 9 years old and only raised two pups so this might b her last litter. Going to name her Showgirl. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220411/f84bae36b3aee08bfa595eb721ddfb92.jpg)


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Thats a nice pup Cajun, I'm sure she'll make a good one for ya.

She’s got a gorgeous head shape, nice ear, and sure looks like there’s a lot going on in those eyes. I hope she works out for ya. If you by chance get one more try at her momma, you might consider a border collie stud! Just sayin, they’re purdy nice, lol.


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Just curious, but you told us you basically blended 3 families. Does this cross go back towards any particular one of the three a little more? I know you said it’s doubled up on Showboat, which I assume is a good thing or a fella like you wouldn’t do it, but I’m not familiar with his ped.


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Amber is only 1/2 my breeding being out of Showboat. The other 1/2 is Shamrock and a Weems bred dog so basicly Weems. Showtime is out os Amber and my Hillbilly dog that made his way over your way. Hillbilly is out of my Jack dog and a beardog female out of Tn. I would have to be a math major to figure out exactly how much of that is my breeding but since I already have a lot of Weems in my dogs it would probably be safe to say they go back to 3/4 Weems and the rest would be Swampland that also goes back to a lot of Weems bred dogs. 

Lol that sneaky ole hillbilly. That makes sense. Sounds like you might have a pretty good idea of what she could potentially turn out like. I wish you the best with her.


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She sure is a pretty rascal Cajun I sure hope she turns out for ya.

x2 on that…nice pup

She sure is a good lookin pup, sounds like she has some big shoes to fill!


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That's a nice puppy, But I don't remember seeing her when I was there.

She sure looks good hope she turns out for you

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That look in the eyes....

For any of you fellers that dont really know what that means...     PURE HOGDOG>>> Lol..   I would wish you luck with her but it aint luck she needs...fine pup

Looking forward to her turning into a show off in the woods Cajun.

She would have been about 5 weeks when you were here. She was probably in the barn. Funny note, Amber is a red brindle and Showtime is a brown brindle. She had about 8 or so during the night most of them brindled up pups and only two black with brindle trim. She either layed on them or didnt lick them clean but they were all dead except the two black ones. Both Blacks were females and I kept one and sent one to Joe Hudson up in Michigan.
  Thanks everyone. Hopefully they will live up to my expectations.

Well put together breeding make nice animal hope she turns out wat u want nd more


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Line bred is the way to go ;)

Cajun, what are the differences in the different lines you used to make your dogs?


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The puppies in the barn were the litter of those I hauled up here for Josh and Joe, maybe she was in the small brooder there on the end of the kennels, I didn't really look in there.

Clue, They were in the barn on the right in that kennel.

  T dog, Some of the main differences were the Weems were much more hyper then the Swampland. Also the Weems were more streamline built with the Swampland dogs had more muscle. Still get both out of the same litter. Ability and speedwise they were about the same. Two of the main dogs I bred around was a Black with brindle legs female Blackie (Weems bred) and Trapper (mostly Swampland). Both dogs claim to fame were the ability to trail tracks that other dogs could not smell and run away from other dogs. They just had that all day stamina where a lot of dogs are fast for about three hours, these dogs could maintain that topend speed all day. I'll see about  digging up some pics and posting them in the comments.

That’s awesome. Sounds like those two should’ve been the focal point.


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Black withbrindle trim is Blackie (Weems Bred). Trapper (Curley tail-mostly Swampland breeding)

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Those are both really nice looking dogs. I’ve raised a couple (Country and Briar)  out of my dogs that could’ve been Blackie’s pups or siblings.

Do you prefer the type of one or the other more?


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  I prefer the laid back mentality. You never knew Trapper was on the yard. Quiet, never said a word but was all business once you turned him loose. I dont know how many volts I have sent threw Blackie over the years trying to shut her up. I really dont think she was a very smart dog, just so hyper and ran a chain day and night but boy could she coldtrail and once jumped very few dogs could stay with her.
  Was looking for better pics. of her but most of them she is all cut up. In that pic. she had two broken ribs on the side you see and the other side she had a rib bit off her spine. Bear really did a number on her.

I’m like you, I would have probably picked trapper between the two for the same reason. She sounds like she was all drive.

Just curious, but does one or the other of them give more mouth on track than the other? I know your dogs usually give mouth on track, I just wondered if their different natures were reflected when then they were trailing. I know with my dogs, sometimes they will give some mouth when a hog breaks. It’s usually a dog that is one of two things, either higher strung/more excitable or a dog that is maybe not quite as fast on track. Usually 150 yards is about as far as they’ll do it or if they can see the hog but just can’t get up on it to stop it.


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Cajun,

Do you put more emphasis on breeding around your males or females?


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T-dog, They were both open cold trailing and really gave a lot of mouth when jumped. That being said I did not raise Blackie but got her when she was about a year old. all my Plotts if you do not start on them early, you will have a bunch of barking fools. people are amazed at how quiet my dogs are when they come over and ask how I keep them quiet. simple answer is I just do not put up with it.

Austesus, Not really. What I strive for is nose and drive and of course speed and more important is dogs that can get it done by there selves.

I like to hear that.....that is the most important part. Better dogs not more dogs! lol

Sharp looking pup Mike!

That’s real sound breeding strategy.


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Thanks for the reply Cajun. Are you typically breeding around one top dog until you get another one that you want to breed around, or do you just keep making crosses between your family of dogs to keep progressing the line forward? Not sure if that is worded how I’m thinking in my head… but I know some guys will focus their line around a top notch dog until they produce another dog that they decide to focus around, and they continue that cycle going down the line. And it seems like some guys will keep it a little looser and instead of focusing on one individual dog they’re focused more on the family as a whole and they cross the slightly distant family members (ie. Cousins, uncle, aunt, etc.) I can see some theoretical pros and cons to each way, just curious what your methods are if that makes any sense?


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I am basicly just breeding to the best in a family of dogs and when I fill like some traits are lacking then I will try to find a dog that will reproduce it. Truth is, everyone including myself wants a litter of superstars but if you can produce a 75% litter of good useable dogs you are doing good. I am pretty hard on dogs and can always find something wrong with one. There are no perfect dogs out there and when you are satisfied with what you have, your breeding program will go downhill from there. jmo 

Thanks Cajun, I like the mindset about producing good dogs and not superstars. If I can ever get my yard to where I want it to be, that’s my goal. Not attempting to produce a freak superstar, but attempting to keep myself in good dogs that will make me proud consistently with their performance no matter what company they’re in.


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. I am pretty hard on dogs and can always find something wrong with one. There are no perfect dogs out there and when you are satisfied with what you have, your breeding program will go downhill from there. jmo .   


That is the truth there

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