HOG & DOGS => HOG DOGS => Topic started by: bcwags on July 13, 2022, 05:13:35 pm

Title: Jagds & Heides
Post by: bcwags on July 13, 2022, 05:13:35 pm
Looking for advice on which direction to go with my pack.
I'm a rancher in the south texas brush country. I have Jagdterriers and Heideterriers. The dogs do a great job protecting the house and barns from varmints and predators and keeping the feral cat population in check. I run them on hogs and its interesting to see the different styles of the jagds and the heides.
I love jagds. They are motivated and fearless and will kill anything and everything that comes around the house, but dog aggression can be an issue. My jagds track vocal and will grab fur when they get there. I had a jagd female that would find and retrieve quail and dove.
My heides track silent, are more likely to bay, and they don't fight with other dogs unless provoked. They have better stamina and self preservation but take longer to turn on and time to develop confidence.
Unfortunately I lost a Jagd and a Jagd/Heide cross both last month. I'm hoping to pick up some new dogs and wanting some suggestions, any small to mid sized terrier type of dogs and where to get them. Good crosses? I appreciate any info, contacts, opinions, or advice. Thanks!

Title: Re: Jagds & Heides
Post by: TheRednose on July 13, 2022, 07:16:28 pm
Seems like you prefer terriers, I'm sure you are familiar with them already but sounds like you might like a Patterdale Terrier. I've seen a couple that were pretty good hog dogs. 

Or maybe look for a little cur dog or maybe a small cattle dog like a heeler or a kelpie. I have a little cur/running dog/treeing walker cross that is only about 35lb but she will fight a coon all night with no back up and will kill a fox as well. I don't really use her because I quit hunting everything except cats but she is just a little meat dog. Maybe you could find something like that.

Title: Re: Jagds & Heides
Post by: t-dog on July 13, 2022, 10:13:42 pm
bcwags, that Heide breed is relatively new. At least new enough that I wouldn’t think all the kinks were ironed out. They sound like a really nice dog by your account. For my taste they sound more attractive than the jagds. They also weren’t developed here in the states if I read correctly and we all know south Texas or Texas period can be a different test. I think I would pursue the Heides with very critical selection and maybe even find something with more the stamina you’re looking for to cross in. The first cross may not be exactly right but again, selection and each cross after may be just what you want. It doesn’t sound like there’s a whole lot of tweaking to do which is a plus. I don’t think I would choose a cur for a couple of reasons. 1) pure, they aren’t the most driven breed as a whole when it’s “Texas Hot”. 2) a lot of the cur types seem to be a little more possessive which often times leads to being a little more quarrelsome. Those are my opinions and my not trying to knock breeds or ruffle feathers. Was the half Heide half Jagd closer to right for you than either of the pure breeds?

Title: Re: Jagds & Heides
Post by: WayOutWest on July 13, 2022, 11:57:31 pm
Hunting Heritage has some terrier pups on the dog trade that may be close to what you are looking for.

Title: Re: Jagds & Heides
Post by: Hollowpoint on July 14, 2022, 11:50:46 am
Where did you get your Heide’s from? I know of two people that breed and hunt them and they seem to have different styles from what they tell me. One side is like you describe in your dog where they’re more likely to bay. The other camps dogs are absolute killers, straight catch. I have a pair of jagd’s but I’d like to get my hands on a heideterrier one day in the future.

Title: Re: Jagds & Heides
Post by: make-em-squeel on August 10, 2022, 02:37:33 pm
Get in touch with De 972 838 5171 hes in the DFW area and has a bunch of working jag and heids