agreed

Everybody has their own opinions on it, so I will give mine. I have to start with I am a big believer in genetics, to me that is your base line starting point.

One of my first mentors who has now passed away used to tell me how good your dogs are breaks down to four factors; 1. Genetics: the starting point the way he put it is you can only get out of them what they have them  2. Hunter/Handlers: someone to lead/guide them, correct and keep them out of trouble, and put them in positions to succeed  3. Environment: places to hunt and game populations  4. Hunting time: Woods time, repetitions they get.

So in my opinion to have dogs you can really rate as top shelf or top notch you need a good amount of all of those factors though you can still be successful with less but I always remember there are levels to everything we do.

Well said imo

In my opinion it doesn't matter if its a dog, horse, cow, or rooster. The animal needs to be genetically predisposed to perform the task that they will be burdened with if you expect consistent results. Naturally there are freaks that are able to do tasks at a high level that the breed or line may not be intended for. But if it can't reproduce its self consistently, it isn't worth much in the long run. You don't see cutting horse trainers shopping for colts in Kentucky LOL. Sure handling or training play a big part in this as well, but it's more important to stay out of the animals way as it is to get in it. Ive never been able to beg one to hunt, not gunna try it again either 

I agree...it is genetics...

Early starters are inspiring to me...put an 8 week old pitbull pup on a 10 pound pig and it catches the ear, well I know I can put this pup up for a while and I know it will catch again...a 3-month-old puppy that bays well in a controlled environment is exciting...and at 4 months I take that pup to the woods and it makes a a round...well I'll put my money on that pup and it will be getting preferred treatment from this day on...

Yes, I put my money on genetics but there needs to be a minimum time in the woods, and then there is proper handling...proper handling brings out the best from the dog so handling is important as well...

I like to say this as an example...the winningest greyhound racing handler is given a dozen basset hounds to train and race against the greyhounds due to his winning record...we all know that those bassets could never win a race no matter how good a handler...

just like a hunting dog that doesn't have the genetics to ever become a good hunting dog...you can take this dog to the woods 5 times a week and get the same results...a great hunting dog with the right genetics can get by with one hunt every 2 weeks and can lay up for months and will still perform when taken out...but just like anything else...the more they hunt with the right handling and this dog will perform and look good doing it...

To each their own but the 2 dogs ive had that were great, and being around a few buddies who's dogs i consider great imo had these traits. would stop runners, bay all day, but rarely get cut and never/rarely serious when they did, tons of hunt, 45 min loops and off from their on any track, and it came to them naturally, defiantly cant take credit for training them.

sold

Good for those pups, good chance the cd makes it imo. Rodney told me once theres no such thing as a blue pit, dont know if he meant its mixed with a mastiff or a staff etc Ill have to ask him

He gave me a tank pup thats only 6 mo old and bays real tight from the first hog hes seen, was with the strike dogs on the last hog he saw, his 3rd in the woods, got him cut up2 weekends ago but he should be ready this coming wknd.

nice hunt/hog!

How are yall posting pics on here? tap talk or whatever isnt working for me recently...

sorry about that glad your young dogs did good

where did you get those swivels the chains are attached too?

they usually dont charge like that, close one

id be proud of them for hunting, the lil things usually wk out with age

do those hounds bawl from the boat then you cut them like rigging?

  They are doing good on the hogs, but they are still soaking up quite a bit of electricity. The one that outshined the other dogs baying that boar solo got fried off a coyote before we struck the next hogs. But it doesn't cow them down.

nothing wrong with that, glad to hear they stepped up

nice

got to love it

good 1

love seeing young dogs role, congrats

He’s mystery bred. It’s a mystery about what he’s out of lol.


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He seems to big to be pure pit... looks good. probably has some AB in him if I were to guess

Is that a scott bred AB in the last pic?

glad she is coming on for you

nice load