anybody know what events they are having at the Cleveland ranch rodeo sunday?

I can see by the responses some probley think I'm no good for saying that. However I will not backtrack or move from what I have said on the subject. Y'all say its inumane to do such a thing. Is it also inumane to put out rat poison or to put off an insect bom in your house for unwanted nucances? Or would you rather catch and kill every single mouse and bug in your house so that they do not suffer?

As far as morals go, I was raised by old timey hard working honest ppl. Most all of what I know to be true I have learned from my elders. As a kid I cannot tell you how many hogs or coyotes I saw my dad or grandpa shoot and leave lay out of pure hate of the animal. I will say that I don't think it is good practice to be running traps unless you have the time to check them. However I will not loose any sleep over a couple dead hogs. I feel no emotion twards the animal.

I got some what of a "talking to" yesterday from a man who's place borders a place we hunt. We have permission to hunt it with the agreement we work his cows in the spring and fall free of charge. No big deal. This place is a honey hole. Last year we hunted it hard and ran the hogs out nearly completely within a few months. This year we have held back only hunting it once every 2 weeks.

Yesterday we worked his cows. We got there early to bay and let them settle a while before penning them(they are a wild bunch) riding across the big pasture in the front I saw rooting everywhere you looked. Hay stacks gone thru and a big part of his hay field torn up right where this man drives to his pens. He did not seem pleased. He asked how often we were hunting it and asked us to come more often. Kill every one. Dog them shoot them whatever.

Bottom line, this man like many others makes a living from the land. He has just enuf cattle so as not to overgraze. With a place like his when you start reaching in your pocket to feed your loosing money. Guess what hogs have him in his pocket.

So at the end of the day my opinion would be so what. Hogs dead in a trap is better that hogs in a farmer or ranchers pocket. They are big hary cockroaches that molest the land.

One thing I have figured out is, if a dog has the "hunt" in them it really doesnt matter what you do their gonna go hunt when dropped in the woods. They either have it or they don't.

X4.......I pet my dogs when I'm feeding them.....I LIKE my dogs and I want them to like me,.....I get more out of them that way seems like. One dog of mine will let anyone catch her in the woods.....the other not so easy to catch....it's taken years for her to let some of the folks I hunt with catch her when they need to. I want mine to be easy to catch by the people I hunt with. If they're running a hog and one of my bunch kills it, I don't want to have to go all the way over there to get my dogs, I want them to let my buddies bring them back to me.  As for the whip idea.....mine would come running and looking for the hog that you just shot at and be a bit chapped at you for missing it.

About that whip, when you have a trashy dog on your hands. Get you a little rat shot and when you catch them in the act bust em!(from a distance of corse) usually they will come to you for releaf like what the heck was that and they will remember that loud bang. after that when you pop your whip they will usually stop whatever they are doing and find you. If you tried baying and shooting over anything from my house you better make it count because they will scatter I'm sure!

As far as the other goes I agree with chad if a dog has the desire to hunt it don't make a difference what you do with them at home. However I was taught young that a dog is a tool no diff than a horse. It has a job and does it there are no free meals. Just as a tool I use them when I need them and put them away when I don't. You won't catch me in the pasture or in my barn just loving on a horse and you won't find me watching my dogs chase butterflys in my yard. It's just not how I'm made and I don't have the time.

Gentle?...no, but do they have a handle?...yes. Most of mine will let you pet them but don't really want you to however they will roll out when told come in when called get out when told and get in here when told and walk behind my horse like a cow dog. I like to leave pups running loose at the house to get a little bond tell them and let them learn there name. I feed in my trailer so they learn to load up when told and crack a whip at them when barking during the night or getting out of line they get to understand that the crack means uh oh and this is how I call my old dogs out of the woods.

If someone offers to buy a dog that I'm not sure will work for me ill take it otherwise ill offer the dog to ppl I know for free if they can use it. However there are two dogs in my pens that cannot be bought. Well I take that back I might would take a million for the pair. If it ever got so bad I couldn't keep them the brindle will go back to my good friend that gave him to me as a reject cow dog and the red gyp would go to another good friend who values her just as much and will use her in the same fashion as I do.

Friend of mine had an accedental breeding occur recently. The bitch is a 100 persent yella dog from a long time back. Now she has had pups before by yella males and had yella pups. There are 3 males that could have got her. The most likely my buzz dog brindle curr dog comes from brindle yella and red family, my slim dog a yella dog kin to the gyp and my friends catch dog a big leopard w a touch of bulldog. The gyp had a few yellas a red two brindle and a solid black. Where in the world did the black come from? Is it possible the leopard got to her aswell and fatherd just one pup? He has been bred before and did throw some black.

Daytime! I'm scared of the dark

I had the law call me yesterday and ask "mr. Blackwell are you missing a dog?" Shocked I said everything I own is at the house as far as i know unless one got out of the pen. The officer said well then can you explain to me why I have a dog here w your name and number in a place nobody is to be hunting? I said now do what I'm telling you every dog I own is at my house I have a handful of ppl you can call that will tell you every one of my dogs you can come and see. I then asked what the dog looked like she said he's a big red dog w a block head all cut up w a green collar that has your name and number on it. Shocked I told her I have one red dog but it is a gyp and everything else is yella or brindle. I haven't had any green collars in years. Finally I got off the phone w the officer who was still not convinced that wasn't my dog and I wasn't poaching.

Well I got to thinking and I give a big red male to a man I use to do some hunting w 4 years ago. I called that mans son and asked if he still had the dog. He says naw daddy give that dog to a boy last week or so. So I ask what kind of collar that dog wore and told him the situation. He didn't know for shure but said yeah dad has some of your old collars here I think and the boy he give the dog to does a LOT of poaching in the area. I know who hunts the ranch next to where this dog was found and called him to see if he knew anything about it. He says somebody has been poaching his place aswell they've been trying to catch them for a month.

Now I have this 18 yr old boys name and number who is responsible for all of this on one hand I can handle this quietly and many he can learn a lesson. And on the other hand I have the law still wanting information from me.... How would y'all handle this situation?

Look at the bright side Ronnie. You can get your circle drive fixed and that's less trees I have to run the rake around when we bail!

I am I diamond man myself always have been. A friend of mine told me about the country feed. I had my wife pick up a bag to try honestly I haddnt even looked at the contents. I tried the retriever high energy a while back my dogs did ok on that just looked like hell. Full of energy but a little poore looking. I thinking of feeding that country feed to my pups and saving the diamond for my old dogs I use every week to save a little on that feed bill!

Litslers feed store in sweeny sells a 40lb sack of the country dog feed for 17.50

Texashogdogs, what you just said I can agree w 100 persent. HOGS ARE NOT CATTLE!!!! Throw dogs to bad cattle and watch for 30 40 min an hr 2 hrs whatever it takes eventually they will settle and be face in butt out ready to pen. I have seen it time and time again. I cannot for the life of me understand how a circling hard baying dog will stop a runing hog once broke if he grabs ahold he better stay hooked and have help on the way or that hog will be in the next county before you know it.

Best one ive ever had.. RIP ol girl


Jack. Wont go to the woods without him.



Biggest Barr ive ever caught.  Found and bayed by jack, soon as another dog got there he was an earring.

What kind of vest is that on your jack

different strokes for different folks....I guess. The type of dogs I choose to feed have allways work good for me and many others in my area. We hunt places from 400 acres to 4000 acres w the same dogs and catch hogs. Now I will admit that these dogs do get outrun sometimes, but around here ether there here or there not so make another lap and find another one dog! So what I'm getting at is short dogs have always worked for me so if it ain't broke I ain't trying to fix it. If I have to ride another 500 yards to for my dogs to find a track then so be it! But at the end of the day when the long folks are still following there bottomless dogs ill be eating supper at home. I have hunted behind dogs of all sorts but none suit me like these. If it ever comes a time when this type dog doesn't work in the country I hunt then I may look at changing things up but I doubt that day will ever come.

Like the long dogs that hunt for themselves. Short range dogs that I have to walk or drive them to the pigs don't stay on my yard. I rarely have a 2, 3 or 4 hour chase some of you are refering to. I have had some long walks that seem/felt like they take that long but I wouldn't trade for a dog I have to hunt for. JMO

Are you saying that short range dogs don't hunt for themselves? I know a lot of dogs that don't regularly hunt further than 2 or 300 yards but stay busy beating brush, in the woods and will leave out further in sine or on track. I prefer these dogs because I like em ruff. I don't want them caught on ol big a mile away same as I don't want to finally catch up to find a 80 pounder ripped to shreds.

I don't care if I had 500 acres or 100000 acres to hunt short to med. ruff dogs are the way to go for me. Bottom is for the birds I want him caught not ran across the county. I enjoy watching loose dogs bay when its right but in my experience more often than not it ends up in a big race witch I personally do not care for.

I have always been a firm believer that a pack of 3 4 rough not so much gritty nip at a hog bay busters but ruff(catch without hesitation when its right or another dog shows) type dogs will produce more pork than any other style pack of dogs any day. Don't get me wrong if them loose dogs work for you great. This is just my opinion based on my experiences and what has worked best for me.

B  i dont like to chase them to far

X100 b all day

I saw the first one I've ever seen last Friday. We were called to rope 2 bulls and a cow out a place at rosharon. While looking for the cow the dogs went across a thick bog to a small island and went to baying. Didn't know if it was our cow or not. My buddy rode across to see and they had a bunch of sows and shoats bayed. He hised them into catching one as we needed one to start some pups and the rest broke. I saw a pretty blue hog come out and my jaw dropped! I've lived in this area my hole life and never seen a blue hog before.