thanks...

Did the dog vet/doctoring forum get the boot? There was an awful lot of good info on there.

when you breed bro/sis you are not linebreeding on a target individual...

you are linebreeding to every animal in that matings history equally...

one pup may pull traits from sires 8th generation, another from his mothers 3rd generation, so on and so forth...

it's a total crapshoot... be ready to cull...

respect.

i change nearly every dog's name, wether it was a good one or not.

i want a dog to respect me. when i get them home i change the name and fool with them until they learn it... after the initial learning and adjusting period, a dog will respect me, and understand that he is in my control, not anybody elses.

just get redwings...

mcduffie developed the "leopard cur" now known as the "leopard hound".
one of the foundation studs was supposedly half or one quarter aussie (or some type of merle farm shepard)...they were bred as tree and woods dogs.

they are completey different than the catahoula leopard curs of the south, those were dogs developed
in the same fashion with much the same genetic origen as the yellow black mouth dogs...

there is no doubt that mcduffie used some of the catahoula type leopards to develop his line of "leopard curs".

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meh, if she was a saddle back, the yellow would run up the thighs and fore arms/shoulders...

she is a black and tan cur.

that horse ain't blue, you idiot, he's grey... haha.

she looks like a yellow mouth cur to me....

well, with dogs or livestock, i tend to cull everything that doesn't meet MY breed standards/criteria, which i would consider extremely strict, as soon as it's noticed, the earlier the better.... only then are the best PERFORMING individuals used in a breeding program... i won't make exceptions for conformation... then when they are asked to perform, i don't lie to myself about how good they are... i want balance, and quality. i'll have my cake and eat it, too.

never had a pig tail shoefly, but i have tied a milk jug a quarter full of pea gravel under there.

gets the booger out of them, if you ride the hell out of them all day.  it'll turn a goosey colt gentle real quick.

i've never had luck with any of the moore maker products...

tried two knives... they were the sorriest i've ever owned.

barnes.... has a screwy bite angle.

scoop... won't hold an edge for crap.

pliers... broke the third time i used them.

i won't give them another copper penny...

that has been my experience over the last three years.

on a trip through oklahoma a couple of years ago, i decided to call gary and drop by to meet him.

a nicer gentlemen i've never met, he offered to put us up for the night after we talked dogs five hours longer than we intended.

he must have a million photographs of catching bad cattle in rough country with bred and owned dogs, one album after another.

it was one stop i will never regret making in my life.

they change.... best stick with the F1s if you like them.

unless, of course, you want to breed a lot of litters, cull extremeley hard, and linebreed.

thats what it will take to get any degree of consistancy.

i've got a litter of pups and a started pup.

walkers, and they are bred to hunt hard.

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i had a pair of greyhounds get sarcoptic mange from a coyote. 1 cc of ivomec everyday for 21 days. it cleared up without problems.

for a plott pup with demodex (genetic) mange i gave half a cc of ivomec for twenty one days.

i had a border collie pick up sarcoptic mange from the greyhounds, and i dissolved BORAX twenty mule team detergent with peroxide and doused the area everyday for a week or so.

all cases cleared up as easy as that.


twenty one days is the life cycle of a mange mite, and the infected dogs need persistant treatment throughout the entire cycle.

hate to wake up an old thread...

lacy dogs were bred as all round dogs on hill country ranches. meaning they were bred for working hereford type cows, hair goats, sheep, and turn out hogs. most were coon hunted at night, if not they were on loose guard dog duty. mile plus range was never a trait those old ranchers needed. they needed a steady companion, and they often made "damn good" dogs because of the time spent with them, not neccesarily because the dog itself was good. a reason a lot of them are later maturing. the old timers stuck with a dog untill it made one.

as for cowdogs. i've seen and used plenty of good ones, but styles vary from dog to dog to much. i've seen them work with a border collie style, as a hardcore bay dog, all the way to a full on catch dog, there not being a nickles worth of difference in how they were bred.  some oldtimers liked a softer silent lacy with more sense around sheep and goats, and some liked a bay type dog with more grit for hogs and fur. in my opinion the best lacy cowdogs i've been around worked no different than a good BMC or cat.

short range was an original bred in trait. there wasn't much reason for one to be out of sight.

i've taken long acting penicillian orally for an ear infection (cut with water), when i couldn't get to a doc for a prescription.
it will knock the the hell out of an infection that way instantly.  i HIGHLY DO NOT recommend it. it's tough to swallow and tough to keep down. you WILL find out if you are allergic to it that way. plus anybody with sense will chew your ass out if they find out you've done that. but hell, i don't like an ear infection much either, especially 80 miles from town, during a two week cow works. so yeah, i'm sure it works orally on dogs to, if they hold it down.

i've gotten dogs from david. good dogs. i use mine on cattle. my sugar/hornet gyp is as good as they come. she'll go DEEP to find cattle.
NOT a short range dog. super smart at reading bad situations. not real catchy on cattle, but reads cattle well enough to know when teeth are needed. my chata/ colorado gyp started easy as pie, at 4 and a half months, super catchy/rough, would as soon catch as bay, at 6 months i use her like a finished dog (she is definatly not finished but you can rely on her better than most broke dogs i've been around). both have a ton of bottom and were flighty as hell as pups (which i like). the sugar/hornet gyp and my male randy/coyote were a little tricky to start, i'd say 90% percent of dog people would not have got them started, but once started they never looked back. these are dogs where patience and sense definitely pays off. none of mine have been real short range dogs. the male has a little bit of bottom problems since he heat stroked as a yearling but is still a way above averge cow dog.