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1  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: "Lets go to Georgia" on: April 30, 2012, 03:16:43 pm
i like your honesty, most hound i mean dog hunters only post the blown up storys about all the hogs they catch, but seldom admit to being out run, but i like your honesty, you have more than proved yalls dogs with your pics and storys, cant wait to read more, and by the way, i want to read about this tuff man contest u were gonna tell abt???
2  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Real Alligator Dogs on: April 30, 2012, 03:09:40 pm
dang jimmy i could keep looking and reading all day, put up more...
3  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Real Alligator Dogs on: April 30, 2012, 03:01:14 pm
Now the Nigerino dog looks awesome.
i agree, this is the build i like to see, keep them coming
4  HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Re: Was going hunting till I seen this on: April 25, 2012, 05:26:05 pm
ive seen and heard of quiet a few dogs here in alabama getting ate by gators. and if they do get a dog its usually one of the lead dogs
you are right about the good dogs getting the bad end of the deal, bet you could throw a box full of culls in a gator infested area and wouldnt loose any. lol
5  HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Re: Few recent pics........ on: April 25, 2012, 05:23:23 pm
i agree thats a all around good hunt and it probly dont mean a hill of beans to the soldiers about how big the hogs were, you are a good man for what you did by taking them, god bless you.
6  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Am i the only one? on: April 22, 2012, 11:52:37 am
Look, plain and simple, people will defend help dogs because they own them and feel a sence of pride in that good ol me too dog, BUT have any of you ever heard of anyone saying "man I am really short on help dogs, I think I'm gonna breed a couple of my crummy no hog findin me too dogs so I'll have more help dogs around."




Oh, wait. Actually I think that happens everyday and they end up in classified ads  Undecided
i dont own any me to or help dogs but i have a good friend who has a good help dog and i wouldnt cull it, never said it would be bred and he has never sold ANY dogs so my point was in my opinion a good help dog is not a cull. and we both have dogs that can get a hog struck and bayed by their self but some times that help dog has helped us produce caught hogs when with out her i belive the hog would have broke and not bayed again...
 not everybody hunts the same places and not all big smart hogs will stand easy even with a good hog dog baying him, jmo
7  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Dogo argentina on: April 22, 2012, 11:44:35 am
t colt your dog looks real good. hes one of the more athletic looking ones that i have seen, like the way hes built
8  HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Re: Good Night in the Grove.. Two Down. on: April 22, 2012, 11:41:05 am
yeah buddy that sounds like an action packed hunt
9  HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Re: yr old pups bayed and caught a big boar! !! on: April 22, 2012, 11:37:58 am
heck yeah i bet all of yall had a good time.
10  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Am i the only one? on: April 21, 2012, 02:34:31 pm
the woods i hunt most of the time u crawl through briars or catclaw vines and it sucks, now back to the original point, when a good help dog runs with a good strike/bay dog we almost always catch all the hogs we have bayed and can usually crawl right up to the bay to cut the catch dog loose. i belive the terrain u hunt and the pressure on the hogs u hunt play a big role in all this also. but it works good for me so i like to have a good help dog aROUND


 i belive the terrain u hunt and the pressure on the hogs u hunt play a big role in all this also. but it works good for me so i like to have a good help dog aROUND..

it was worth repeating...I have seen this system work...

A friend of mine had a dog that might find a hog once in a blue moon and if the hog broke he probably couldn't trail it much less find it...but when running with the pack, and he would make every step the pack made...he was the help dog that specialized in stopping a hog...
    reuben i have seen a few guys where i live that hunt in big deer leases and not alot of hogs but what they do is cast a few cold nosed hounds and 1 or 2 curs that will run with their hound and when the hounds jump the curs shut the hogs down, and they manage a few hogs like this, its not how i hunt but it works for them and in my opinion they r all help dogs lol
11  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Am i the only one? on: April 21, 2012, 02:28:23 pm
the woods i hunt most of the time u crawl through briars or catclaw vines and it sucks, now back to the original point, when a good help dog runs with a good strike/bay dog we almost always catch all the hogs we have bayed and can usually crawl right up to the bay to cut the catch dog loose. i belive the terrain u hunt and the pressure on the hogs u hunt play a big role in all this also. but it works good for me so i like to have a good help dog aROUND


 i belive the terrain u hunt and the pressure on the hogs u hunt play a big role in all this also. but it works good for me so i like to have a good help dog aROUND..

it was worth repeating...I have seen this system work...

A friend of mine had a dog that might find a hog once in a blue moon and if the hog broke he probably couldn't trail it much less find it...but when running with the pack, and he would make every step the pack made...he was the help dog that specialized in stopping a hog...
12  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Am i the only one? on: April 21, 2012, 02:18:14 pm
the woods i hunt most of the time u crawl through briars or catclaw vines and it sucks, now back to the original point, when a good help dog runs with a good strike/bay dog we almost always catch all the hogs we have bayed and can usually crawl right up to the bay to cut the catch dog loose. i belive the terrain u hunt and the pressure on the hogs u hunt play a big role in all this also. but it works good for me so i like to have a good help dog aROUND


 i belive the terrain u hunt and the pressure on the hogs u hunt play a big role in all this also. but it works good for me so i like to have a good help dog aROUND..

it was worth repeating...I have seen this system work...

A friend of mine had a dog that might find a hog once in a blue moon and if the hog broke he probably couldn't trail it much less find it...but when running with the pack, and he would make every step the pack made...he was the help dog that specialized in stopping a hog...
glad to know i aint the only one that thinks a good help dog is worth his feed Smiley if i hunted places the hogs didnt break and run on then i would understand not wanting to feed a help dog, but to many independent dogs just dont cut it where i hunt...


Where do you hunt?

Have y'all ever heard the term, "self fulfilling prophecy"? In breeding and raising hunting dogs, you will eventually reap what you've sewn. I think some people elevate a strike dog to some lofty post and accept many faults in dogs simply because they can find a hog. That's certainly not what I'm after.

Tshelly used the term "hog dog" earlier and that's my opinion as well. If we'd quit breaking dogs down into specialties and raise our expectations, you'd find that one of days, every dog you feed will be a hog dog.

Now as far as independence goes, every dog should honor the strike of it's pack mates, or shut its hog down awful quick. A few weeks back one of my gyps bayed a sow behind the house, and the other one had one bayed not a minute later. I went towards the younger dog first and as I glanced at the garmin I saw the older one moving slowly towards me but I figured she'd left her hog. After I legged that sow, I heard both gyps baying 40 yards from me. The older one had moved her sow toward the original bay! I didn't breed these, and I take no credit, but they've taught me that HIGH standards produce great results
  tebob i agree we should be striving for better dogs every time we make a breeding, but until you have nothing but true bad azz strike/bay dogs i think a good help dog is worth its feed. i have 3 dogs that will find and bay hogs by their self, but i have also had hogs break when they heard me or smelled me get close and break and never get bayed up again, and i have a good friend/hunting partner that has a dog we can turn out and she will stay with our strike/bay dogs and help keep a good hog bayed until we were able to get 10-20 yrds and turn loose the catch dog. in my mind shes worth feeding. im sure u are proud of the older dog you have that will herd one to you thats awsome but my mutts aint that good man. but im trying lol
13  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Am i the only one? on: April 21, 2012, 12:49:54 pm
the woods i hunt most of the time u crawl through briars or catclaw vines and it sucks, now back to the original point, when a good help dog runs with a good strike/bay dog we almost always catch all the hogs we have bayed and can usually crawl right up to the bay to cut the catch dog loose. i belive the terrain u hunt and the pressure on the hogs u hunt play a big role in all this also. but it works good for me so i like to have a good help dog aROUND


 i belive the terrain u hunt and the pressure on the hogs u hunt play a big role in all this also. but it works good for me so i like to have a good help dog aROUND..

it was worth repeating...I have seen this system work...

A friend of mine had a dog that might find a hog once in a blue moon and if the hog broke he probably couldn't trail it much less find it...but when running with the pack, and he would make every step the pack made...he was the help dog that specialized in stopping a hog...
glad to know i aint the only one that thinks a good help dog is worth his feed Smiley if i hunted places the hogs didnt break and run on then i would understand not wanting to feed a help dog, but to many independent dogs just dont cut it where i hunt...
14  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: OLD SCHOOL PICS on: April 21, 2012, 12:45:21 pm
awsome pics, thanks for sharing them, any one else that has old pics like these put them up i enjoy seeing old hog pics
15  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Old timers and New timers on: April 21, 2012, 12:33:09 pm
At 6 months of age, in my opinion he's too young to go on an actual hunt.....he's not mature enough physically to be on a hog in the woods. Doing a mock hunt wuth a pig would be great I say.....he doesn't need to encounter a hog that will hurt him at this age. It's real easy to ruin a real promising young dog by getting ahead of yourself with him. Better too slow than too fast. Good luck with him, sounds like he has the stuff.
  i agree
16  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Bully Kutta on: April 21, 2012, 12:25:45 pm
def a good looking dog, bet if u got one out of hunting stock from pakistan it would work. but i would b scared of them sending him to the us with a bomb in him to blow up an air port? so i would pass on getting one
17  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Dogo argentina on: April 21, 2012, 12:20:43 pm
i have hunted around a fine dogo catch dog, not the fastest or most agile dog but if u walk him close to the bay and send him it is a caught hog. with his size he cant get into some of the tight spot the hogs bay up in but if u do get him in i feel very confident going in behind him because i have never seen any hog shake or knock him off and he has a few big ones under his belt Wink
18  HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Re: Good 2 day hunt... on: April 21, 2012, 12:12:54 pm
ole bones is a good looking dog
19  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Am i the only one? on: April 21, 2012, 12:07:45 pm
here is my opinion, a good help dog earns his feed. i understand having all great one out dogs that can find and keep a good hog bayed, notice i said good hog? all of my dogs can find their own hog and 2 of my dogs will catch anything under 100lbs, but with that said, when i cast 2 out they usuall split if we r not close to a fresh sign and what happens then is one will usually bay up and the other is out of hearing range, so as we get closer to the hog he hears us and will break. and after that first bay the race is on. now if u send in a catch dog a little bit out u will catch these good hogs but usually end up with wrecked dogs if u get close to the bay to send the catch dog hog breaks now u got a loose catch dog that might run till the hog is stopped again? but the woods i hunt most of the time u crawl through briars or catclaw vines and it sucks, now back to the original point, when a good help dog runs with a good strike/bay dog we almost always catch all the hogs we have bayed and can usually crawl right up to the bay to cut the catch dog loose. i belive the terrain u hunt and the pressure on the hogs u hunt play a big role in all this also. but it works good for me so i like to have a good help dog aROUND
20  HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Re: Hilarious Video on: March 23, 2012, 03:40:13 pm
thats the funnyest video i have seen in a long time. man i would pay money to have been there. lol awsome
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