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HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: American Bulldogs
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on: July 30, 2020, 02:39:00 pm
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I have two questions. One is why did y'all choose the AB's instead of another breed or crosses? Two what do y'all look for or expect from a "catch dog"?
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I CHOOSE THE AMERICAN BULLDOG FOR SEVERAL REASONS. I WANTED A DOG I CAN CATCH HOG WITH AND DEAL WITH ONLY TOLERABLE DOG AGGRESSION AND BRING HOME AS A FAMILY DOG. I PREFER THEM OVER A DOGO AND A PIT. WHEN A DOGO IS A GOOD DOGO ITS A FORCE TO BE RECOND WITH AND ARE GREAT, HOWEVER THEY ARE BECOMING A LOT LESS RELIABLE IN MY OPINION THAN THE AB. GAME PITS ARE GREAT AND IMO THE BEST POUND FOR POUND THAN ANY OTHER BREED. HOWEVER, THEY ARE A LOT SMALLER AND A RANK HOG IS MORE LIKELY TO RUN OFF WITH THEM THAN AN AB. ALSO ITS HARD TO FIND ONE WITH THE SMARTS TO CATCH THE HOG RATHER THAN FIGHT THE HOG OR GRAB YOU FAVORITE STRIKE DOG. AS FOR CROSSING DOGS THAT WORKS SOMETIMES AND SOME GREAT DOGS HAVE COME OUT OF THAT, HOWEVER TO RECREATE THAT DOG WILL BE HARD WORK AS WITH A CROSS YOU WILL HAVE TRAITS FROM BOTH DOGS THAT WERE CROSSED AND NOW YOU SACRIFICE CONSISTANCY. REGARDLESS WHAT YOU CHOOSE I BELIEVE ITS YOUR CHOICE AS ITS WHAT YOUR FEEDING. AS LONG AS THEY WORK FOR YOU THAT IS WHAT MATTERS IN MY OPINION.
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HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: American Bulldogs
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on: July 30, 2020, 12:59:31 pm
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I’ll have to see if I can’t find someone with social media. I don’t do the whole social media stuff. I get on a few forums and that’s the extent of my socialness. I appreciate the responses gentlemen. Are you fellers out towards the west ??
IM IN SOUTH FLORIDA.
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HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: American Bulldogs
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on: July 28, 2020, 07:24:27 am
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TNT you didn’t mention what line yours were ?? Thanks in advance
Im in my second generation of Jam up Bulldogs (most goes back to Hines with). You can look me up in Instagram TNT_Bulldogs for pictures and more info.
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HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: American Bulldogs
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on: July 28, 2020, 07:09:23 am
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you will find some good guys on this board that did or are still using abs in the woods. i used em for over 20 years but havent hunted in a few years now and am down to one old bulldog thats goin on 10. and hes a straight bred standard dog and i also owned and used his grt grt grandmother over 20 year ago also. ive used and hunted behind a bunch of different abs over the years both standard and hybred in lineage. owned a bunch of the things over the years. you will find some good ab guys on here. i also owned and printed the american bulldog review magazine the last years it ran and i judged a aba ab show last fall.
Thank you for your reply Gary. What line where those bulldogs originated from that you use to hunt with? I will try to find that Magazine. I love to read about the breed.
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HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: American Bulldogs
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on: July 28, 2020, 06:59:38 am
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Yes, they are a few of us that are still using them. Some of us have been using them for several years and are several generations in breeding ABs for catchdogs
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Do you currently use them? If so what line/lines did you start with and do you have pictures of them doing bulldog work? Yes, I’m still using them. Lines: BamaBoy thru True Grit and JEL, Stover, Hines, old Painter/Scott, and Florida Panhandle dogs. Yes I have pictures. As a side note, Tico has been a friend of mine for 17-18 years now Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Hello scott. We have spoken in the past back in July 2019. You told me about about 3 potential studs you were going to breed to that young gyp. I got your information through Tico. Most of my bulldogs have Peach in their ped. Dont know if you remember speaking to me. My name is Tony.
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HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: American Bulldogs
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on: July 26, 2020, 05:10:47 pm
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Yes, they are a few of us that are still using them. Some of us have been using them for several years and are several generations in breeding ABs for catchdogs
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Do you currently use them? If so what line/lines did you start with and do you have pictures of them doing bulldog work?
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HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: American Bulldogs
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on: July 26, 2020, 05:07:14 pm
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TNT what are you using ?? If he doesn’t work out it’s not a big deal for me because he is doing exactly what I got him for and the misses loves him to death. I myself have always been curious how many of these big breeders still have what a bulldog is suppose to be or have they shifted so much to the show ring most are no longer what they should be. So he is my first in trying to figure that out and if not well I reckon the misses has one hell of an expensive lap dog. I have a few things I already don’t like about him and something I was also curious about there over all health in general or is the pool so small in some types those issues are going to be there.
I’m in my second generation of Jam Up Bulldogs. I’m overall happy in what I have currently. And your right not many ppl testing their bulldogs before breeding them. That is the reason for my post. I want to see if anyone else out there is putting these dogs to the test. I only know of a select few. As far as health issues. Some have them because it’s hard to find dogs that are from working stock and from ppl that aren’t lying about their paperwork. (Adding pit, catahoula, mastiffs ect. And still call them AB) So it’s hard to find suitable outcross. Also the show ring and fame has ruined a lot of the breed. Starting with Mr Johnson D. It all started when the price for pups began to skyrocket. Most hunter aren’t looking to spend 1k + for a pup that may get killed on his first rank hog. But show ppl don’t mind and breed their champion cur for a profit.
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HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: American Bulldogs
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on: July 26, 2020, 12:39:48 pm
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I’ve had Joshua dogs in the past. My first bulldog was a Joshua dog( 15 years ago). He was a great catch dog. Second and third didn’t turn out for me. Good luck with that boy. Hope he works out for you. Thank you for posting.
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HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: American Bulldogs
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on: July 26, 2020, 12:37:12 pm
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I’ve had Joshua dogs in the past. My first bulldog was a Joshua dog( 15 years ago). He was a great catch dog. Second and third did turn out for me. Good luck with that boy. Hope he works out for you. Thank you for posting.
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HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: American Bulldogs
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on: July 25, 2020, 09:33:34 pm
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This trend wasn’t started to debate on AB being PURE. You can start another thread on that if you like. What was ment to have been said was dogs that were still AB and not have current crosses in them. Dogs from old lines that were used for catch work before. If there is anyone still using them. (Hines, Dorsey, Scott, LeClerc, screaming Eagle, ect)
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HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / American Bulldogs
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on: July 23, 2020, 12:42:07 pm
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Anyone still running pure AB as catch dogs. If so what line/breeder are still being used. If you have any please post pictures and line or who produced them. Thank you.
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