Father is a bay dog mom trained to track downed deer. 1 male left for 500 7 females for the 400 .both parents are in the 100lbs to 120lbs range. Pups will be big dogs. Great family and working dogs. My 18 month old craws all over them and try to lick her to death. Great dogs. With papers as well. Texashand89@Yahoo.com or 9037214566. Txt or call