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21  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Shy versus skittish Cur on: August 22, 2019, 08:06:55 am
Haven't posted in a while with taking on a new job. Me and my hunting buddy got 2 female pups (reverse/B&T) from a guy at 6 weeks old, he says they're Texas YBMC with Florida YBMC crossed, parents proven. Figured I give them a try and maybe do an out cross if she was good. I notice they were both on the shy side when we got them and are still this way at 8 months old. In the past, I would not tolerate a skittish dog and cull.

I find myself struggling whether to cull her or not on the simple fact she is standoffish, she's been to the woods twice but unless I have another dog on the ground I cannot catch her to load up. Keep in mind I let her out when I get home from work everyday and would handle her and sometimes had an issue catching her in the yard but eventually could catch her up. She does have prey drive, a month ago she got a chicken in the yard and basically ate the whole thing by the time I realized what she did but really hasn't had enough wood time to see what she'll do and has not see a hog yet.

I plan to keep running her but what do y'all typically do in a case like this? I wouldn't call her skittish but she doesn't seem like an mentally sounds dog in my opinion, I would be really skeptical to even correct her if she trashes with the garmin in fear of breaking her spirit. Any pointers would be great but hate to buy a dog, feed it for 8 months, give vaccines, and flea meds to cull. Guess it's part of the process, but any insight would be great.


22  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Over working hog dogs, morning lameness in rear end. on: February 20, 2019, 10:00:02 am
Got great news today. It took a while because they really weren't 100% convinced she had hip dysplasia. After speaking with a couple different ortho vet specialist they do not think it's hip dysplasia and it's early osteoarthritis from running her too hard too young. Hopefully I can rehab her and get her back in the woods in the fall. But even better news I can breed her! But he did say running these dogs too hard too soon can be dangerous, I have never had an issue in years up to this point but will pay more attention in the future. Thanks for all the help! Just wanted to follow up.
23  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Over working hog dogs, morning lameness in rear end. on: February 15, 2019, 08:59:38 am
Honestly, I used Rural King's Vet. Not sure if they are out in Texas yet but my regular Vet was too busy to see me and they were pretty good. It was $180 for exam, xrays, sedation, and rabies vaccine. I was really impressed and surprised how affordable it was. I understand most folks would cull and not even take the time to go to the vet to see what was wrong with a dog after several months. But I'm thinking about 10, 20, 30 years down the road, I don't want to reproduce this again. I really sucks, I got to watch this dog flip the switch and really impress me in the woods later to find at 1.5 years old she can't hunt anymore. $200 vet does not hold a candle to all the money and time it took to get here. I'm gonna give her son 2 months rest and rehab him, then try him again before I make a decision. Thanks for all the support and to those that thought HD, you were right.
24  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Over working hog dogs, morning lameness in rear end. on: February 14, 2019, 08:35:51 am
These are a cracker cur line (south Florida Partin dog). number 2 happens, going back to drawing board. It's not a severe case but she out of the hunting game for sure.
25  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Over working hog dogs, morning lameness in rear end. on: February 13, 2019, 07:23:01 pm


Damn hip dysplasia. This has messed everything up. Gonna have to go back to my main gyp, the father would show very similar symptoms to my gyp now (his daughter)but I just assume it was a mild case but this is ridiculous at 1.5 years old. Her brothers are finding hogs and having no issues at at. Her 10 month old son is starting to acting the same way so he has to go also. I’m so damn pissed. Both breeder are telling me they have never heard of dysplasia in any of their dogs that they know of.  Got to nip it in the butt now and give them up for adoption.


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26  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Over working hog dogs, morning lameness in rear end. on: February 12, 2019, 09:46:07 am
Have an appointment this Friday, I'll update everyone when I know something. Thanks.
27  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Over working hog dogs, morning lameness in rear end. on: February 12, 2019, 06:30:43 am
I was going to breed her, and need to know for sure cause I don’t want this in my line.


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28  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Over working hog dogs, morning lameness in rear end. on: February 11, 2019, 06:28:36 pm
I guess I’ll have to get her to the vet this week and X-ray back and hips. Hopefully I pushed her too hard and can get her to bounce back in a few months.


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29  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Over working hog dogs, morning lameness in rear end. on: February 11, 2019, 08:41:00 am
I've notice my 18 month old female cracker cur has been gimped up the past two weeks after hunting and come to think about she was showing signs of soreness a week or two prior. This dog has flipped the switch, hunting hard by herself and tracked a big boar over 2 miles yesterday by herself before she gave out. After 1 or 2 good runs she becomes fatigued, won't jump in the box, and is sore for 2 days after and will seem fine after that. I usually hunt 4-6 hours in the morning and head home, I do not run all day.

Other symptoms, I noticed she's bunny hopping in the rear legs and seems postured very tight in her lower back. I thought maybe at first she just tweaked something but soon realized I'm running her back off. After talking to my GrandDad who owned a greyhound kennel for 40+ years, says I need to sit her out for 4-8 weeks and recondition her to hunt again, and feed her twice a day to build her muscles back up. I was concerned with hip dysplasia at first but she's not kicking her leg out to the side and is rare in this line of dog. I even noticed her 10 month old son is doing the same thing after this weekends hunt. Which he's running really hard and trying to keep up with the grown dogs.

Does anyone experience this in their cur dogs? How do you prevent/rehab them, from I was told if they do not recover properly they can permanently damage their rear end causing a spine injury. I will sit her out for 4-6 weeks strict rest and slowly start letting run the property beside the the side by side 2-3 times per week working working building strength and stamina. Maybe this is something I should do in the off season, but she is conditioned and been hunted regularly since October last year, I think maybe since she is turning on now she might be pushing herself too hard. Because she is not the same dog she was 4 months ago by no means. Thanks in advance.
30  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Vest for rough curs on: October 12, 2018, 07:00:25 pm



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31  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Vest for rough curs on: October 12, 2018, 06:59:55 pm


Got to test it out, but looks good. Custom, 2 layer condura and 1 layer Kevlar.


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32  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Vest for rough curs on: October 03, 2018, 03:56:36 pm
Already bought the texas boar bib, but removed all trauma plates, d ring, only using two layer condura and with one layer kevlar in between. If I run into the same issues with rubbing I will send back to wild boar to modify it. I have got in touch with a person in australia also. They use fire hose and seat belt material. I've even consider making my own but we'll see where this process takes me.
33  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Vest for rough curs on: September 20, 2018, 01:26:19 pm


Gonna try a modified version of this and see how it works. I’ll let every know how it works out.


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34  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Vest for rough curs on: September 20, 2018, 12:34:02 pm


Here are some I have ran. Work good in winter months but like something better for hot days. Working with wild boar to see what we can come up with.


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35  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Vest for rough curs on: September 12, 2018, 07:34:07 am
Mike,

I have tried that vest, that one I actually ran a dog hot it. I guess the struggle is real. I'm gonna try this new boar bib for wild boar usa and see how it works.


Make-em-squeel,

Which company did you use and what style? I thought about ordering one from Australia if this doesn't work, just sucks I keep throwing money at it and it's probably was just a lucky shot. These swamps in Florida around Mallory Swamp are rough to navigate with too much material. Appreciate the support.
36  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Vest for rough curs on: September 11, 2018, 03:02:43 pm
The catalyst for this conversation was losing my best cracker cur this past Saturday, he was cut below the cut collar and no amount of quick clot would help. I caught well over a 100 hogs with him in the past 6+ years and will be hard not having him around. This was the first hunting buddy I've lost in 7+ years and consider myself fortunate thus far. I do take pride in my stock and they're family. I have thought about this everyday since that day, what could I have done differently to change the outcome. I know it's chance we take every time that tailgate drops. But I like to see what others with rough curs think about vest for rough curs. Vest you can run in summer months not your full bull dog vest.

Hog dog vest, I've probably spent over 1K in trying different brands of vest, sizes, and shapes. Wildboar USA, hard core, southern cross, summer vest, bay vest, strike vest, etc..... What I have ran into that they are generally hot, overheat dogs, cause near drowning experiences, and just slow a damn dog down. So, I eventually gave up and just ran cut collars only. But then you look at Aussie pig hunters, they use chest plates. So, I did some research and  I went ahead and order a texas boar bib from wild boar usa just to try it out and see if they could actually hunt in it. I see hard core sell a couple but I like the wild boar brand better after reviewing them.

Does anyone else struggle with this issue? What are some other companies out there to consider. I've even considered switching from rough curs to bay dogs with a catch dog but that really isn't my style of preferred hunting method. Figured I throw it there.
37  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Ranch World Ad on: August 08, 2018, 03:12:47 pm
Never heard of him. There are some partin bred dogs from South Florida but never heard of this guy. Could be legit but I agree I would want some more information. Jim Fraser and Ernest Grider are the only partin dogs I know or have personal experience with. There is Sean Greenlee also, but never got a dog from him but he does breed curs.
38  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Dan's Chaps on: August 08, 2018, 03:08:11 pm
yes goose. You were getting some right?
39  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Dan's Chaps on: August 06, 2018, 01:14:13 pm
Goose,

Great idea, I order some for $17 on eaby. They look like weight. Did you ever get your cracker curs?
40  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Dan's Chaps on: August 06, 2018, 08:42:10 am
Thanks for the tips. I'll stick with my jean and tennis shoes, nothing is 100% and seems more of a hassle than what it's worth.
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