Man that’s awesome, I sure bet it brought back some good memories for Edgar.


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It looks like y’all had a great time and wore the hogs out!


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Sorry to hear about the failed catch dog prospect. Hopefully he didn’t do too much damage to any of your other dogs. It says a lot that you will openly discuss a dogs flaws as well. The dog world would be much better if people were open and honest about dogs and their flaws instead of letting their ego get the better of them!


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Those are some great looking hounds. It’s awesome that you’re able to keep 3 generations going at once, that is a testament to the health and performance of the dogs!

I like the four Wheeler set up too. What year and model is that Honda? I’ve been wanting to pick one up for a while just for hunting in some tighter spots than I can get my buggy


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Cajun, how do you like your current Plotts compared to your original catahoulas? Are the Plotts better dogs overall, or do you just prefer their style, etc.?


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I sure hope so. I believe I can get Doc going good again. After hearing what he was going through with treatment and handling I think he just needs some TLC. Just after getting
him to the house and spending some time with him he has warmed up to me a lot. He was very timid at first and he’s already wanting me to pet all over him. I think he just needs to come out of his shell and get treated better than he was before. He for sure has a lot of motor in him. I’m hoping he will be a good puppy trainer for this gyp I’ve got.


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One of my favorite books as a kid was Where The Red Fern Grows, and it really gave me a burning desire to have hunting dogs. As a kid and a teenager I was always training yard dogs and had some experience messing with some of my uncles bull dogs. When I came back from BCT and AIT I got my first dog that was MINE. A 6 month old bulldog off of my uncles stock. He was just a house dog at the time but I really enjoyed putting a good handle on him. When I met my now wife, and we started dating, I was browsing Craigslist one day and found an ad for some Ladner Black Mouth Curs. I was 19, she convinced me that if I really wanted to try to get in to hunting dogs I should just buy one and try it.

I made the call, went and got one, and then went back and got another littermate. Those dogs didn’t amount to a whole lot but it gave me a good connection with the guy that got me really going with hog dogs. We are no longer on good terms but back then he taught me a lot and took me under his wing. I would hunt with him every weekend and would handle dogs and just watch and learn. We walk hunted, and would hunt for 12+ hours almost every time we went, often walking 15-20 miles on a hunt. He didn’t like talking on a hunt, so I just stayed quiet and tried to learn by observation or asking a question here and there. He liked “silent and violent” dogs. He was a very good outdoorsman and just had a knack for knowing exactly where to go to put the dogs in good sign and catch pigs. Back then he caught 500-600 hogs a year with a lot of them being big teeth, and that was more than anyone else I knew about. He hunted 5-6 days a week as a full time job and made his living by training dogs for guys and by starting and selling dogs after they had been on a few hundred pigs. He would occasionally sell a nice finished dog as well, but rarely would keep one long enough to really finish it out. His enjoyment came from making dogs, and so his yard was a constant revolving door of dogs.

I got my first good dogs from him, they were off of a super cold nosed long range Ladner  BMC bred to a game pit. That Ladner was a freak dog that was on a different level from anything else I had seen. The off spring of that litter were hell on wheels and came out like clones of each other. I watched a lot of them in the woods and always liked them. I got two of them from him, and started my own pack of dogs. Fast forward a few years and almost all of those dogs had been killed from being so rough. Quite a few of them were killed before they were 2-3 years old. Everyone that had those dogs loved them, and there were some random scatterbred breedings off of them but nobody had really bred them with a purpose. After multiple setbacks I realized that if I wanted to keep myself in good dogs consistently I was going to have to breed them myself because nobody around me had an actual plan or a breeding program. I started making an effort to turn it in to a legitimate line, and I have really taken a passion in the breeding and genetics side of things.

Up until this past year I was only able to walk hunt, and I loved very very rough dogs. What attracted me to them was a lack of races, and the warrior aspect of a dog that isn’t afraid to fight like a savage and give it everything he has to do his job to the best of his abilities. There was just something about that kind of dog that commanded respect in my eyes. I had not seen hardly any dogs have success by baying on the properties I was hunting, which were dogged very hard for years.

With that being said, my Ranger dog that I bred and raised off of unrelated stock, changed my mind. He showed me the benefit of having a dog with a LOT of bottom, that was a one dog show. He would stop them, and then back up and bay until you got there and told him to catch it or another dog got there and then he would catch out with them. He made me a believer in a bay dog that had enough bite to quit the running problem. He was killed last year, which left me with nothing as far as good going grown dogs outside of the best gyp on my yard which is very rough stock. I currently have a litter on the ground off of my rougher stock, that is bred very well in my mind, but I’m not sure if I’m going to stick with them.

I recently got a well bred female pup (Thomas you know the pup I’m referring to) that should be closer to what I was looking for with my Ranger dog. I have really got to where I would prefer the deep hunting solo bay dog over anything else. Today I brought home a dog from the same fella and the same line (with an outcross) by the name of Doc (Thomas I believe you’re in the loop on that one as well). I’m very excited to put him in the woods. I refuse to be kennel blind and although I have greatly enjoyed this rougher stock, and I have really enjoyed trying to learn and work on the breeding and genetics side of them, I am now in a position where I may be able to have dogs that better suite the bill for me. I am unsure of the future for the rough dogs. I may keep a few for catch dogs, I may keep some for smaller properties, or I may cut my ties with them completely and place them all with friends. I currently have 9 pups on the ground that are a week old so I’m not sure what exactly the plan is for them.

But, I have learned a lot from this forum over the years and I believe in staying a student, so if the new blood is outperforming the old blood, then it will likely be time to cut ties and move forward with my yard. I imagine many of us have started in the same position of just using the best dogs that we could get our hands on at the time. Either way, I’m having a slow start but 2023 will be a good year for making some new dogs!


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I’ve only personally known of one dog that had his Achilles’ tendon cut. It did not heal. He basically had no use of his back foot and it pretty much just drug the ground, but it didn’t slow him down at all.


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Cajun, yes I was referring to how cold of a track. I was just curious what kind of nose the hounds have


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Sounds like the young dogs are on the path to be seasoned. I like that trailer setup, is it difficult getting it through the woods?


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Old man, I think that the twisted gut makes sense. I had a scare with it last year with two dogs and learned about it during that. It can kill them very very quickly. My two dogs were fine, I hunted them hard, took them home and fed them a small amount and then took them on another hard hunt about 6 hours later if I remember correctly. I shouldn’t have fed them, but I did since they were basically hunting for 2 days straight. After that second hunt they were both lethargic, threw up all their food and stopped eating. I couldn’t get them to eat for several days. Vet said their white blood cell count was high and gave them some antibiotics. I thought for sure I was going to lose at least one of them. I think it was a partially twisted gut that wasn’t very bad and it straightened itself back out. I think that if it’s full blown twisted gut they can die within a few hours if they don’t have surgery.


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Lmfao thanks for that entertainment Thomas! Hahaha


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I gotcha old man. I sure wish Mr. Jordan was still around and could post on here. I’ve read a lot about him over the years, it sounds like everyone agrees on him being a real deal dog man.


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That makes sense. At the house I always keep mine separate on chains and in kennels. I’ve weeded through the dogs that have aggression issues, I also refuse to tolerate it. It’s just a ticking time bomb in my opinion. And that collie/plot comment about made me spit my drink out lol


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What kind of time frame do you expect your dogs to be able to take a track after it’s been laid?


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Those dogs look great Thomas, I love those long legs and deep lungs. They look built for speed and endurance.

On the big dog yard, how big of a lot is it? Do you not have any problems with dogs getting scrappy with each other when they’re left together like that?


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Man that sounds like a real fun hunt slim! I have also found that 1 solo dog will normally bay up hogs a lot easier than multiple dogs. Really shows you what you’re feeding as well.


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For you guys that bay and shoot, what do you normally use gun wise? I’ve only shot one bayed, it was a few pups baying a sow and I shot her with my pistol. I don’t want to haul my AR through the swamps, I was thinking about picking up a little .22 to take and popping them behind the ear with it. My only real concern is I get in a tight spot where I can’t get a shot off because it’s too thick. Do y’all ever have that problem?

I haven’t had a bulldog on my yard in a few years because of running rough dogs but I’m transitioning over to dogs that have more back up and bay, and I’d prefer to not mess with hauling a catch dog around. For the time being I figured I may take 2 of my rough dogs and keep them on the buggy to send to a bay


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Nice hogs! The dogs are good looking as well


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Thomas, those kinds of hunts are darn sure frustrating but they make for some good laughs and memories afterwards!


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