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1  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Let's hear some Cold Trailing stories on: November 17, 2020, 11:01:12 pm
That should put a smile on your face, hat's off to ol Hambone!

X2...that Hambone is a keeper and easy to look at as well...
2  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Pretty good Ol South Arkansas RiverBottoms Buck on: November 16, 2020, 06:10:38 pm
Nice buck...
3  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Applying common sense to pig dogging, dogs, and hogs on: November 15, 2020, 06:56:02 pm
Well put Thomas

X2...

This I will say about black streak...he has stepped on many toes on this forum including mine...he seems to be a little short on tact and some folks are born that way...
4  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Knives on: November 15, 2020, 01:28:44 pm
Good looking knives...
5  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Culls? on: November 15, 2020, 09:53:58 am
Many dog folks will feed lots of tracks to make a dog, I will not do that...I like a pup or dog that has natural tendencies to hunt as I like...just like some dog's brains click the first time they wind a hog a quarter mile away, and then you have those that their brain does not click on an easy hog close by...I watch closely for natural born abilities because it is easier hunting this type of dog...I like the the idea that the few dogs in my back yard to be potential breeders as well...

Puppies...I am careful in exposing them to certain conditions but if I ruin a pup while working on  imprinting it to certain conditions I will feel bad for loosing the pup...but I will take those chances because I want to see what type of mentality the pup has...common sense and experience can tell us how much pressure to apply...if the pup can’t handle it I want to know early...I like a pup to have determination to stick with it...and it will continue through out it’s life as a hunting dog...

The good thing about culling early (pups) is that in most cases the pups are not culls...it’s just making an attempt at selecting the best as early as possible...hopefully picking the cream of the crop...

Setting up scenarios that are exciting for the pups is key...

I don’t baby them but I want them to love and trust me...
6  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Culls? on: November 14, 2020, 09:39:45 am
This happens often enough in cur breeds especially some strains of mtn curs...and it is usually the better and more intelligent ones...they seem to be a little shy around strangers but can be tough on dangerous game...these won’t hunt for strangers sometimes for several months...but when they do accept the new master they can put on a clinic...I believe they length of time it takes for these type of dogs to accept a new master has a lot to do with the new master’s experience on how fast he can win the dog over...

As I already mentioned this trait seems to coincide with intelligence and hunting ability...

He is an observation...you can spend lots of time, work and money testing pups for natural ability...keeping half the litter, and thoughtfully line breeding and inbreeding for 6 and more generations the very best pups in the litter...yet others may not realize the time and effort involved and will not fully appreciate the labor of love...and they will treat the pup as any other pup or dog...some of this has to do with not knowing what a good dog is or not knowing how had a good dog is to find...

I am one of those guys that does not take me long to decide on a dog...I like raising my own so I can observe their demeanor, how they think and operate...I look for natural inclinations...over time that begets more of the same...

Finding a good line of dogs is not easy...

7  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Catch dogs on: November 13, 2020, 05:45:24 am
Nice looking catch dog Cracker...
8  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Catch dogs on: November 13, 2020, 05:44:17 am
Man I won't lie, I love them. Neither have many hunts on them. The brindle half breed has the most at almost a dozen and didn't get to catch on all those hunts but he got handled. He's already doing good with being hunted off leash. I question his hardness more than anything. He hasn't done anything it's just something in my belly that says maybe there's something there. His mom was AB and she was hard and several siblings out of other litters have proven to be hard but were out of different males. He's a tad bit quirky too. He won't work the same for everyone else like he does me. The white male is all AB and a super nice dog. I think he's tough as nails, he's super athletic. I weighed them the other day he was just over 80# and the brindle male was 90#. The white dog is really lite on his feet. He can load with no trouble without dropping the tailgait and you don't even hardly notice the shake of the vehicle when he lands. He's going to be able to be hunted off leash too, we've already started some. Both are really smart but I believe the white dog is smartest. I sent him to a sow the other day that came out of some high weeds and at first he didn't realize what she was but he was going to her at about 3/4 speed. Man when he smelled and identified what she was that dude was moving. His agility was impressive too. There was a mesquite between him and the sow when he started getting close and instead of running through it or around it he jumped smooth over it. I guess it impressed me because I could tell he was thinking and not just in that adrenaline rage where he couldn't think or adapt.  Those are the kinds of things that separate dogs that catch and good catch dogs.

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Good analysis on explaining the white dogs thought process...
9  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Catch dogs on: November 07, 2020, 08:52:33 am
Some good looking catch dogs here like the looks of them red dogs cracker and muddy

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X2...also like that yellow gyp of Cajuns...her demeanor tells me she doesn’t have a reverse...
10  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: A FEW RECENT BEAR HUNTIN' PIC'S FROM WV on: October 05, 2020, 08:01:46 pm
Really nice dogs and pups...
11  HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Re: Finally was able to pick my pup up!!! on: October 02, 2020, 07:44:33 pm
Getting gone is a good thing...and I like his looks...
12  HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Re: Big Boar on: September 29, 2020, 08:46:17 pm
No doubt...you have to look the hedges over before turning the bulldog in...a person might not make it in unless they have a machete as a minimum...

Rose hedges over fence lines are better than barbed wire fence...no fence maintenance required...
13  HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Re: Big Boar on: September 28, 2020, 07:05:51 pm
Nice hog and good story Slim...

When I was growing up we had lot of rose hedges...many of the fence rows were hedge...me and my little brothers made a big dome club house in the rose hedges by our house with a tunnel to get there...pretty good times kicking back in there with the hunting dogs...
14  HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Re: Catch n release hunt on: August 22, 2020, 09:54:48 pm
Good hog. That bulldog looks like he is fixing to light your buddy up. lol

x2...
15  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Culls? on: August 10, 2020, 09:35:06 am
On mtn curs...you can buy a two year old as good of hog dog you ever seen...but when hunted with someone new it takes a while to get them to hunt...but once they do they will start pretty good and in a few hunts be back to top form...

The length of time has more to do with the dog trusting the new owner...the focus should be in getting that trust first and the hunt will follow...

Some dogs don’t need that trust...but they all vary...
16  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Still learning: Florida cracker curs on: July 28, 2020, 08:23:05 pm
Here are the two pups I’m working with. The female on the bottom is going with dogs. The male up top still has a lot of puppy in him and is not showing interest. Hopefully that will change, he has the size I was wanting to breed, I just need him to have the drive.


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That yellow pup on top of the box looks like a Florida cur dog that was pictured on here many times named Monkey...supposed to have been a really good one...I have seen others that looked like Monkey as well that are supposed to be good ones located somewhere in central Florida...

I hope he turns out for you...
17  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: New Garmin? on: July 04, 2020, 09:16:22 pm
If it doubled the range and battery life I would be pretty happy...
18  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Old article might help on: June 26, 2020, 09:02:14 pm
Usually when family lines "run out" in a "line bred" program it is when one of two things have happened, one it is due to poor or improper selections for breeding, or two there was not sufficient numbers to keep from getting "bred into  a corner" then substituting sub standard individuals into the program, that's when the salt in the stew saying applies. That can and will haunt us for many generations and can be the death of said line.

If you have that great line and your in a corner find another dog that is similar in hunt and appearance and breed to your best...if most of the puppies look and act right then we can hope some will turn out...you breed one of the proven pups back in and chances are your line has been rejuvenated...like the old man says...you don’t want to loose what has been developed...When you have the right pup with 3/4 of your blood then that pup is very valuable to you not just to hunt but to breed as well...

IMO;
The hard part is not the breedings...the hard part is finding and starting with the right dogs...
19  HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Re: Good help and good dog work on: June 26, 2020, 06:05:35 am
I agree with Cajun...racy and well built...good looking dogs...
20  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Run to catch on: June 23, 2020, 07:07:52 pm
The run to catch mentality for the type of cur dogs T-dog runs and many others tend to be the same type of dog including mine...they are not really run to catch...I am speaking more for myself but many will probably agree...these dogs are strike dogs with plenty of casting range, excellent tracking with plenty of bottom...the mentality of these dogs is more like “run to stop“...

The dog is smart enough to stop a hog and then back up and bay...if enough dogs show up they will catch, back up and bay and catch again if the hog is trying to break and run...a lot of times it is very thick so it is hard for the dogs to get close enough to stop one right away...so the dogs will be pretty far away and it might take a good while to get to them...young dogs that think they can kill a hog will sometimes die of heat exhaustion when really far away because they will fight hard without any quit which leads to heat exhaustion amongst other hazards...

Too much grit can work against this type of dog...especially the inexperienced pups with the extra grit...They tend to have that fire to run to stop or even catch...

I better explain this for black streak...

Catch and let go and if the hog tries to run catch again...the dogs are just taking a break and just keeping the hog stopped and working smart...these dogs will catch again when someone shows up or can be trained to catch on command...or to back up on command...I like this style of dog...

And there are other styles of strike dogs but we are talking run to catch mentality...and run to stop...

Run to catch a hog is exactly that...the dog would be a running catch dog...
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