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1  HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Re: Made a farmer happy on: Today at 10:56:30 pm
Heck yeah, that was a good hunt.


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2  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Building A Cut Vest on: Yesterday at 03:05:39 pm
I wish I had pictures of them but I remember leather vests and the old wet felt vests back in probably the 90’s. Both were hot, heavy, not flexible, and like an anchor when they were wet. But......dogs didn’t get cut where they covered.


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3  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Building A Cut Vest on: Yesterday at 06:41:42 am
Cajun do they even have sleeves on the hind legs?


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4  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Building A Cut Vest on: December 02, 2020, 10:25:13 pm
That’s pretty neat stuff


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5  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Building A Cut Vest on: December 02, 2020, 04:11:55 pm
There are several brands out there and each brand has several styles. I’m VERY particular about the way a vest fits my dog. Every brand and every style aren’t the right fit for every dog. Example, I have two vests made by one company but two different styles. The medium vest was bought and fitted for my 90 pound catch dog. The large was for the 80 pounder. Both dogs move way better in the medium. The large restricts them a little through the shoulder where the medium allows good extension. 


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6  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Next generation on: December 02, 2020, 11:49:41 am
Lol that’s awesome


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7  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Next generation on: December 02, 2020, 09:30:12 am
Slim, they for sure look good. The build of that dark leopard pup is super nice.


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8  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Building A Cut Vest on: December 02, 2020, 09:26:55 am
This has been the subject of discussion a few times lately between myself and some other hunters. Anybody that’s been around hog hunting for a while have seen the evolution of our cut vests.  I’m all about running vests on dogs that are going to catch out or are catch dogs. THIS IS JUST MY OPINION, TO EACH THEIR OWN. I still think our vests have room for improvement and in talking to to Cajun in his website post, it was evident that the changes I think need to be made are a possibility. Most of us live in the south where it’s pretty darn hot and the humidity is through the roof. Dogs don’t sweat through their skin like we do or a horse does on top of the fur coat they wear year around.  The more protection you put on them the more body heat that gets trapped in AND the more mobility they lose.  Think back to football pads. They started off small and light weight but didn’t render the necessary protection so they found material that was better for protection. In doing so the pads got bigger and bulkier. They became restrictive to the point that they players that needed to be agile couldn’t flex and bend where and when they needed to. So, they found better materials and started to down size to the point that some players don’t even look like they have shoulder pads on. Catch dogs need that same mobility and flexibility. The vest on the Kemmesabbe dog in Sweden is an example of lighter and more flexible. My other idea is the number of layers needed to provide protection. When a dog gets cut, we usually have to roll the hide around to see any muscle cuts. This is because the hide rolls when the hog hits it just the same as the vest when it’s hit.  I’ve had hogs cut all the way through the vest as most of you have. Knock on wood, I’ve never had a dog killed by getting cut through a vest or even seriously cut, but I have had a some minor skin cuts on pass throughs.  I believe this is because of the ability of the vest to flex and roll. I’m not sure so many layers are necessary to creat this deflection. The bay vests do the same thing with fewer layers. Yes you get more pass throughs so there is a limit. I really believe our American vests could benefit from materials like the Twaron material.  I believe like the Swedes in lighter and more mobile and I also believe like the Aussies in less coverage to prevent trapping in extra body heat. I recently had a vest modified and I really like it so far. The only thing that would make it better in my opinion is if it was still lighter and more flexible.  What are y’all’s thoughts?


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9  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Website on: December 01, 2020, 03:18:01 pm
Stronger and lighter should equal better.


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10  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Website on: December 01, 2020, 07:54:07 am
That’s really neat Cajun. Those type hounds sure will make a person proud and rightfully so. That’s a dang neat idea about the two sided vest.  I was wondering if you had shown them out vests. Lol it’s funny they think ours too heavy I was thinking theirs looks too light to be anything more than a back pack. I’m sure they know what works for their discipline. Thanks for the info.


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11  HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Re: Been A While on: November 30, 2020, 01:21:44 pm
They’re nice looking dogs. She doesn’t show the pit in her appearance, not in that picture anyway. Good luck with’em.


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12  HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Re: Been A While on: November 30, 2020, 08:40:29 am
Sounds like a good hunt. Good time and good dog work is what it’s all about.


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13  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Website on: November 30, 2020, 08:34:30 am
Example: This is Hillbilly. He’s a 55 pound male. Tons of drive, a good medium nose, bite, and a start to finish dog that drives a track hard to produce game. Very athletic and intelligent. Able to leap tall buildings for love. Great with the ladies and cool with the guys.


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14  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Website on: November 30, 2020, 08:22:46 am
Cajun it looks really nice and it was easy enough to navigate through even on my phone. Something I would put in your mind is this, I wanted to see what your current dogs or which dogs you’re using to breed to and a little about them, like their styles and what about them makes them breed worthy if that makes any sense. All the dogs pictured my be exactly that, I just wasn’t sure if they were current dogs or dogs of past and present. I know when I’m looking to add to my dogs, I’m trying to find dogs that stronger in a particular area than mine to try to improve mine. If I’m starting from scratch but know what I want then after find the physical type I want to be able to read about the other qualities to see if they are a possible fit, then I call about them.  You know your dogs and are very knowledgeable and familiar with the plott bloodlines. You knew when you needed to add the shamrock blood and why. A less knowledgeable person could read about your dogs or see their physical build and find their “shamrock” blood. That’s just my thoughts. I do like the easy navigation and your dogs look great with all the proof of game they produce. I do have a question though about the one dog in another country, I forget where it was. What kind of vest is he wearing and what’s it’s purpose? Looks long thin and several pockets with different devices plus his tracking collar.


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15  HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Re: 11/27/2020 on: November 29, 2020, 12:35:16 am
I was kinda kidding about everyone having dogs. I was invited to go the other day. When we got there, there were 13 people and 15 dogs. Needlessly to say I didn’t drop mine. I went to the house for several reasons after the first hog. Too much going on for me. I’m glad you and your crew had a good hunt.


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16  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Guess the weight? on: November 28, 2020, 05:25:32 pm
6000-6160 ounces my guess being that he’s still a boar


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17  HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Re: 11/27/2020 on: November 28, 2020, 05:20:24 pm
Good hunt and nice looking dogs. I only see 3 dogs, did everyone not have a dog?


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18  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Happy Thanksgiving on: November 26, 2020, 08:33:12 am
Happy thanksgiving to everyone. Hope it’s a great and safe day for everyone.
19  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Malinois CD on: November 26, 2020, 08:26:07 am
I totally agree with you Cajun and Joel. There isn’t a breed out there that is 100% stay when faced with adversity. I have seen several pits quit in the heat of the moment for anything from getting a tooth knocked out, getting cut, to just getting their butt kicked. We recently caught a really rank boar that had about 2 1/2- 3” teeth. He was about 180-190 pounds and bad. He had already wrecked another fellas bay dog in there. Sent the catch dogs into a ridiculous briar thicket, literally curtains of briars. One hit but was tangled and a hell of a fight took place. The hog broke and that was his mistake. He made the jewels available for the bay dogs. The other guys bulldog ( all pit) got there and took a thrashing and decided he would help bay. The other bulldog (lab/pit) got there, he was the one that was tangled up, and went in and caught it. He was cut all to hell in front of the vest where the jaw meets the throat. I’m sure this happened because he was reaching for the hog when he was tangled up. By the time we got the dogs off the hog and the hog dead so was the pit/lab.  This is just an example to show that catch dog game is a case by case basis in my opinion. The true game bred dogs are more likely to be more consistent in catch dog game ness but as we all know, catch dog game is only one of many traits needed to be a good catch dog. Game don’t mean didly if they can’t catch a paper sack or make more trouble than you can fix.


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20  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Sausage on: November 26, 2020, 07:40:24 am
Looks real good bud


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