We are needing  to cut back on dogs.
We have grown dogs already going on cattle, in different  stages of work, All Our dogs have Natural circle, speed and can hunt one, some have more bay then bite, some have good handle already. Call Jamie Jelks to come out see dogs working and make a package deal.
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3 male Registered 5 mo. Pups,

Some have ready been competing  in trials also.
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I found pictures of Hog Boy and Morgan, DEMoon and his girl Moon, and a few other pictures of some of the white dogs produced with other Out crosses that weren't Amerigos, but ABs and other such catch dogs or the Big White Dogs. that were used working dogs. I would do better handing them off to you and telling You about them rather then writing it all down

Indian Valley, No Captain and Jake were little pups. I can tell You there were two AB guys in that area that were very familiar with many types of the old lines, Scott, Painter and so on .  Roger Williams and Mitch Allison and either one of those guys might be a way to trace that name. I know Roger Williams in on FB and into protection dogs now or what I see pictures of from time to time, but I would be willing to bet He would be Happy to talk ABs and go back with You.

Semmes- reading back on some of Your other questions. about being "game" and "hot" If these dogs were "hot" I would Cull, I cant stand a dog that will get that way when in woods and need them to focus, the cur dogs get pissy, and need Your Bull to be level headed. My Pits I have had and all bull types have to be trustworthy around chickens cattle, and anythings on a farm environment. I believe that was original job to serve humans as a helper and be smart enough to do as needed. I think they should be bred that way again and wouldn't have so many issues

As Far as health, several died in the woods, and others lived into retirement, catching hogs until a ripe old age, still with good teeth and good health. The first crosses, some are still around, that first pic of Cotton not looking to spry, well because He is 10 years old, in pic, He still game to grab a hog, a little grumpy about other dogs bumping into him, but still loves little kids and babies. Zeus, Morgan, also lived to over ten years of age. Those dogs came into to the world not raised around children but everyone took to a human baby and dare you to try and hurt a kid in their presence. Smoochy would wrap her body around strangers kids and start watching for people to warn them off with her stink eye. Those things were born into these dogs not conditioned. Another trait I fell in love with, even though I think most kids should be fed to the gators. Now Karma she not as trustworthy of people of any age, just let her be and she will decide whom she will warm up too and that's fine. She handles For me, me only, all off lead, I can send her to catch my penned hogs and call her off because she jumps fences, and closed tailgates and goes where she wants when she wants, but she decides to do as I ask of her and she is well behaved. trees squirrels, reaches under my hens nesting and grabs snakes, and wont steal eggs or bother a bird, has enough sense to know what belongs and what don't belong and what is okay to kill and not. I put her vest and collar on and she acts like a wound up idiot when the dogs go to baying, and she going to fly in and catch like nobodys business. She is Doodles littermate. I picked for myself and keep now. This may seem odd, but welcome to come meet the dogs that are still alive, Im happy to show the dogs, and why I have them. The lack of physical limitations and the speed, I don't find necessary to do PennHip or OFA testing on these, like I do with My Catahoulas. Soundness in very important, as with every aspect in breeding dogs,

Semmes, I will try to answer You from My opinion as what I have dealt with working the different breeds and making the first cross as to where the dogs are now after criss crossing the same lines back and fourth (not just breeds) now that they are no longer just as crossing two breeds and and mixing paint waiting to grow and see what You end up with. This has been a long term project. Many Years and Many good people that have been honest and trustworthy to use these dogs and kep in contact to give honest feedback has been the key to what has been going on with the dogs themselves. One person cant do it all themselves, testing, proving and pushing these dogs to find the flaws, to staw away from, to avoid the kennel blindness. James Reasoner, has been Essential at the many many discussions and keeping Us on track, whenever I may have started let My feet leave the ground, I THank Him and Everyone that has had these dogs and hunted them. Without James Reasoner taking Nickle/Pickle (nick names take over) from Me as a pup, pushing her and then taking the intrest in carrying forward this program, It would have most likely ended. Pickle produced Doodle, Karma, PJ and with that generation its going to last .

Back to subject. later starting dogs, Yes some of these pups mature slower, their minds take a little longer to develop and personally think they do not need any heavy hands or obedience just social skills and leash training, get them out around people take them with the famil or put them in the truck and take them ot places and let them be pups leave them alone, never need "training" many dogs need confidence building, and start on small pigs and watching, and a lot of keeping a dominant handle on them to keep them from being problem dogs. I feel like these dogs should be raised like golden retrievers until 9-10 months old and then let them see, because they will protect and want to work for their people, if they are not Over handled and pushed to be "super obedient" nearly opposite of what I do with a Pit.

Whats the benefits of this? These dogs "THINK" atleast earlier generations. I want the dogs capable of knowing and able to make the choices, and trust them to be able to choose the right way. This is not for everyone, but when Your ass in a bind, this dog can choose to let go of one hog and come after the hog that's got Your ass down or a bull, or whatever is problematic, not just chase off what is running because prey drive has kicked in a tiny brain. Yes they have prey drive, but it does not always overload them as does a Pit or many ABs. Some Dogos are too smart making them too soft and need a pack environment to finish a job, not all, some are more prey driven and really like the battle. These dogs as a blanket stement can handle both. They have good health at this time, good skin, good ears, good disposition, If You have to wait a few more months for them to "grow up" and develop that mind and have a dog with longevity for Your family, and a True Partner, then I believe its well worth it.  I have a passion for Dogs, working dogs of any kind, but I want Real dogs too, not fluff. Nobodys getting rich off marketing and selling these dogs that's for sure, Its a love for the partner You have, and the way the dog handles, and knowing they have Your back., They are not a dime a dozen dog from the pound as many like to think of Catch dogs.

Im not in the woods like I once was, I was there like nobodys business for a long time, it was because I wanted to work with My dogs, not kill hogs. I don't claim these dogs are perfect and in any line their will be some that need culling, I truly believe only the top of litter should be reproduced if at all, Not everybody needs one. I do believe these boys have their feet on the ground and can do right by what many of Us put the time behind and did the hard stuff that many other don't have the guts to do did, and will continue to cull when it needs to be done. If anybody wants to know more I will do my best to tell it like it is, and was.
 

I started on this late last night and all got deleted uggggg. So here goes, Maybe some the others can chime in if I leave something Out, or get a date/name wrong, as I have moved and old pics and info is all packed away, this is many moons ago


Captain at one year old one of My favorite pics of him, and one his first hogs caught
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Captain Morgan, was purchased from a newspaper ad along with litter mate Jake, in Clevland Tx area around Dec. 1998. by Thomas Rohan and his Brother as Catch Dog prospects. The lady thet met them offered paperwork on dogs the boys declined as Catchdogs don't need papers to catch hogs, so now You guys that say that all the time know why it gets under my skin. one of the Most solid nerved dogs, intelligent dogs I ever met, not just a catch dog, just a dog in general, genetic history was lost there on that day. Because Nobody would know what a contribution, or how this one dog could affect the future. I worked very hard to trace roots, found old newspaper and tried to find number talked to all Bulldog people from that area years later after I had worked with this dog as a grown animal in many areas besides hog hunting. I know most only want to know about why he was a great Hog Dog. I and many other can tell You this dog could handle any hog one on one, speed, power, brains most of all , and endurance. I like a dog with Brains and still the Heart to go at it anyway, othewords COURAGE.  I say Brains because I have yet to see few dogs that can be hold a nasty boar , while still aware of where his people are and swinging the hog around to keep the head aaway from You and spin the rear of hog to You to leg, this was not a few times but almost nearly every time not in a engrossed thicket. When not close this dog shouldered up to the hog to avoid taking hits and pulled hogs head down and backwards and showed dominance and control of some damn huge hogs, this is in the woods not in a pen. This will spoil any hunter, to have a dog this trustworthy. He did not rip tear or shake a hog, simply controlled one. Back in the day there used to be Competitions for catch dogs similar to how bay comps went on too. Captain would simply sit in heel position while calcutted as calm as could be, at time to release Thomas could lightly tap Captain on the head and tell him to get Out and off he came and No re-bites unless the hog went to get up, I would come up to find Thomas sitting on a hog tieing and Captain sitting next to him watching over his Daddy just in case, He was ready.  
My experiences with Captain, as a Dog besides catching are what really impressed me even more. A kennel full of females and going to have strays, I cold send this dog to catch strays, and no fight just hold and release, he would track, tree squirrel, and blood trail, retrieve birds, mother and clean newborn puppies (lick make bottle puppies pee and poo), and had him biting protection sleeve and close to level I Schutzund, all for fun, no club training although he would bite where needed, and steady nerved enough to allow anyone in that One of said was ok. I even raised a baby fawn that nuzzled and chased him around, this dog had No enemies, no aggression, was not hyper , coul;d take him anywhere anytime without batting an eye, I really couldn't find a hole in this dog.  What was wrong with this dog? I could not reproduce him, that's what, bred him over many females of all types reg. ABs, pit types, cur types, and then Lucy Lou the Dogo and even a pit/Rott cross, He had a bunch of offspring in this world. Some took similar physical type but not many until went with the Dogo cross. Most AB went very thick and heavy, and squattier legged, keeping that long back straight leg and high hip, was not multiplied. His intelligence hate to admit, there are some smart dogs but none IMO equal him. I gave that up many many years ago. He was once in a lifetime dog.

I will have to come back to other such Questions and answer stuff. real quick. NO HEARING ISSUES IN ANY OF THE DOG AS TO DATE THAT I HAD HANDS ON. I want to know to because I took this very serious. Skin issues with the Dogo crosses there were a couple of each litter that did have the hot spots, but not to the extremes, no allergies. My Smoochy was a bitch pup I KEPT and used as my dog. loved this bitch, damn good catch dog, loved her, and she was with me in public functions a lot because she loved children and people, and was calm and quiet natured all the time, so she was the Representative, she had the worst of the hot spots that popped up when I layed her off hunting, the more I used her the less issues, . As much as I adored this female and as many hogs as as She and I caught together in the woods, I never used her in the breeding program, with the skin issues,  I will come back later and try to address more.

coming back at with answers ASAP been busy, busy today

Very Honored, Thank You for taking the time to lay all this out, I hope to provide You with a picture of Lucy Lou also, She and the Great Captain Morgan have been gone awhile now, but Im very proud to have You taking over their legacy and carry it forward. I can tell You know what it means to many of Us and there are a few more that should be sending You info. Much appreciated, Krystal

Another For Ryan TBH

For Ryan TBH in spme pictures in this post 1st pic is of My Pistol, but in 2nd pic is a white dog on far right, that is Fat Jessie

not mine

Ryan TBH another of the dog in action, Comet ,  as the catch progresses

Ryan TBH this another of the photos of the white dogs for You, includes Xerox which I have very few pics of, He was a pup off of the Zee and Rock litter

Ryan TBH here are some good photos for You of the Foundation Male, the Man himself Captain Morgan and some testament

For Ryan TBH another post with a picture of white dog in My post with "Z" Zena this was female bred to Rock of Frazee, this pic of her being tossed in air was great she held on and was GREAT and was not a year old yet and was a really tough boar, but one of only pics I can find of her, she was a feminine female of the cross of Captain Morgan and Lucy Lou

This One For Ryan TBH here are Puppy photos of Karma and how she is bred in this thread

good hunt guys!

Yall make that Hog look Nasty! Good one guys, congrats a a great finish for the year

Another Bringing back to the Top for Ryan TBH, Here is a cross of "UDR Cotton" who was one of the first litter of My cross between UDR Captain Morgan/UDR Lucy Lou , that litter produced Cotton, Zeus, and a few others, Smoochy, Jonah, Zena aka Zee,Blue, Bullet,  was 2nd litter, Lucy Produced a Third litter bred to the Australian Boar dog named Rip belonging to Bloom Brothers, producing only two pups, Beetle and Hornet, Cody Weiser has Hornet, and Beetle is owned by Lance Falzone, those are some large muscle machines with a lot of speed, very hard dogs not same disposition, and are black with white trim. I believe this Stag cross Paul has may have Cottons sweet disposition, I don't know him personaly but have heard good things, I think if You are looking at Out crosses You must look at all this to see what You may get. and then look at what You have inside Your tight, tight line You already have too.

bringing this back up to top for Ryan TBH, this was an outcross on a Pitbull that was a very nice Pit with same great disposition. Several old ETHD members knew both parents and Skunk

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