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1  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Breeding Better Dogs 101... on: April 22, 2016, 10:49:08 am
Hog Dog Mike,

I 100% fully agree with you on the female and you're right...the horse guys figured it out a long time ago.

A month or so ago I was at the guys place who does my collections and we were discussing how much of a game changer it will be in the dog breeding world when they perfect being able to flush and freeze eggs and do embryo transplants. 
2  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Breeding Better Dogs 101... on: April 20, 2016, 02:46:47 pm
Barlow's an interesting guy and I miss having him around, although we still correspond from time to time.

I guarantee, you'll not find someone who has traveled the world and studied (by seeing...not by reading) dogs more than he has.  He isn't scared to hear about someone hunting and raising a good line of dogs and just pick up and move there for a while to see and get to know them.  Heck, that's how we all met him in the first place.

I have read his posts and noticed how he was always traveling to see them first hand. Man with all of the adventures and things he knows and seen he should write a book or keep an online journal like with a group page on facebook or something.

BigO's been trying to get him to write a book for quite sometime.  He (Barlow) is also quite handy with a pen, and can write a story that would entertain anyone. 

Yes...I have heard the tales of his bear hunting days.  Mainly about the time he decided to go bear hunting, so he loaded up his dogs and went to the woods.  If memory serves me right, it ended up being about a 2 year long hunt before he decided to head home.  Lived in a tent in the woods, and hunted 24/7.  If that's not a way to evaluate dogs, then I don't know what is.

Most would think his stories are pretty far fetched...until you get to know him.
3  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Anyone use the dog sperm bank? on: April 19, 2016, 03:19:28 pm
I have several of my dogs stored.  Very easy and simple to do.  Best to flush dog a couple weeks prior to having him collected..especially if he hasn't been bred in a long time.  Guy who did mine for me isn't that far away, so I just took the males and had him flush them.  I figured if my wife came down to kennels and caught me jacking off a dog I'd have a hard time explaining what I was doing...better to just let him do it! Haha.

Also, best to thaw a pellet before storing and check how the semen takes a freeze under the microscope.  Some no probs, and some won't freeze and thaw very well.

4  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Breeding Better Dogs 101... on: April 19, 2016, 03:02:46 pm
Barlow's an interesting guy and I miss having him around, although we still correspond from time to time.

I guarantee, you'll not find someone who has traveled the world and studied (by seeing...not by reading) dogs more than he has.  He isn't scared to hear about someone hunting and raising a good line of dogs and just pick up and move there for a while to see and get to know them.  Heck, that's how we all met him in the first place.

5  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Breeding Better Dogs 101... on: April 04, 2016, 03:07:00 pm
Just a few quick thoughts about something I'm passionate about..

If your breeding two dogs in hopes of getting something better than your starting with, then your starting with the wrong ones.  Breeding should be more about re-producing one or two great dogs, then trying to put something together and hope for the best.

Having said that, some breedings just won't work.  Can't be blind and make excuses for what happens.

Also have to breed for your own use.  No dog will ever please every hunter as we all have different expectations.  Best way if possible is to keep entire litters to evaluate.  Some will be better than others.  If you can't keep them all, try to find people who hunt exactly like you do.  If your breeding casting dogs, knowing how they hunt by being raised by someone who roads does you little good.

Evaluating dogs based on the next generation is different than evaluating based on simply which dog makes the best hunting dog.  For example, slow starters begat slow starters.  Just because a dog finishes out really nice doesn't mean I'm interested in breeding that dog if it took him/her three years to get there.  Then prepotency comes into play, etc...

Know that not all breedings and pups will make good dogs.  Have a goal, but know that the end result will be basically unobtainable.  There will never be complete litters of perfect dogs.

Listen to others and more importantly WATCH others.  Find out who's raising consistent litters of good dogs and pay attention to what they're doing. 

Understand that for every desirable trait you breed a dog for (especially in outcrosses) that your also bringing in all the undesirables.  Unfortunately breeding dogs isn't like mixing paint where you take a little of this and a little of that and end up with a perfect recipe.  As an example, know that you can't simply cross rough and loose and end up with something in between.  You may get a few, but the majority are going to be either rough...or loose. 

6  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Tape worm pills... on: February 29, 2016, 10:47:35 am
Drontal Plus is a very good "one-stop-shop" product, but I haven't ever been able to find a place to buy without a prescription.

7  HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Port Aransas Hunting on: February 16, 2016, 08:52:44 am
I was down at our coast house fishing this weekend, and there was a boat full of guys and dogs that were pulling up and hunting on the islands off Piper Channel.  Piper is the channel leading into Island Moorings from the innercoastal.  I didn't ever get a chance to ease over and talk to the guys, but I would have liked to.  Anyone on here perhaps one of these guys, or know who it might be?  I'm down there pretty frequently and would like to maybe join on a hunt sometime.

8  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Plott hound info on: February 12, 2016, 10:13:36 am
I know this may sound like a silly question, but if your hunting partner just got one you like a lot could you not get one from the same place?

9  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Txhoghunter info... on: February 09, 2016, 10:09:28 pm
Tim went by the handle TNichol on here.  Hasn't been on in a number of years.  Probably 10 years ago he was working overseas in Germany and had Douglas Mason sell most of his dogs and gear.  Douglas called me and I bought his hunting trailer as well as his two catchdogs Zeus and Ruby.  Tim moved back and he and I hunted a fair amount together there for a while.  Super good guy.

His main dog (Boudreaux) passed away about the time his son was entering college and playing college football and Tim pretty much closed the door on hunting for lack of time.

TXhoghunter is actually Michael Woodall....another long time ETHD friend and I think he still logs on from time to time.
10  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Finished dogs? What's your idea of finished? on: February 04, 2016, 09:29:04 am
The problem with the term is that is has a different meaning for the buyer as it does for the seller.

Buyer: "Finished Dog" - A machine.  No BS, Find a hog...bay a hog...catch a hog no matter what.  Doesn't fight, loads easily, minds, not too catchy, not to loose baying.  Will rig off the hood, cast a half-mile, road a couple hundred yards ahead, or walk nearby.  Doesn't trash, except will work cattle only on command.  Doesn't eat too much, craps a good-hard turd, no worms, no parasites, and plenty of scars to prove.  Preferably under $300.

Seller: "Finished Dog" - Dog not worth a crap...and I'm "finished" messing with it.
11  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: How to get range on a dog? on: February 04, 2016, 09:19:24 am
Patience is a virtue...especially when starting the young ones.  If you'll do just as you described by ignoring them, the ones with the natural hunting drive you're looking for will eventually get gone.  Once they figure out there are hogs to find, they will be blowing out of the box to get gone.

I use the same method when evaluating my litters of pups.  I'll even load the litters up and go dump them on a place where there aren't hogs.  My main objective is to sit (however long it may take) and see which ones eventually will get gone.  Multiple times of doing this will typically affirm the it's usually the same ones over and over that are catching my eye.
12  HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Re: Crazy Hunting Story on: February 01, 2016, 11:32:52 am
I bet her ears were ringing also.  To be quite honest, I was so caught up in the moment I don't really even remember the noise.

We're going to go back in a couple of days...the hog should be floating.  See if we can winch it out.  

I just noticed in the second picture the water all the way up the side of the well where we drug the dog out.
13  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: how close do yall stay? on: February 01, 2016, 11:30:21 am
If you'll let the dogs settle in and work the hog for a little bit, he'll be easier to catch once you do send the catchdogs...I guarantee it.

14  HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Crazy Hunting Story on: January 31, 2016, 09:11:46 am
I don't post many stories or pictures because i figure most everyone has seen plenty of dead hogs or how the bay dogs bayed, the catch dogs caught and we killed a hog.

Well I've been hunting behind dogs for many years and I had one of the craziest things happen the other night that I've ever been witness to.  The evening started off like any normal hunt.  We casted into a set of woods and within a short while had the first hog of the night caught and killed.  We moved around a little, and made another cast.  Where we were hunting is small blocks of woods surrounded by plowed open (large) fields.  My dogs were gone a pretty good while and finally the young one showed back up.  I checked garmin and the older dog was still out about 750 yards.  About then, one of the guys says he thinks he can hear him.  We get quiet, and all can hear and agree he is bayed solid.

The direction of the garmin indicated he was out in one of the open fields.  Baying hogs in the open has been a rare occurrence in my years of hunting, but we've had it happen on this particular place probably 4-5 times over the last year.  We drive around and get about 150 yards from the dog and he is still singing.  Plan was to send two catch dogs and hope for the best...knowing when the hog sees dogs headed for him he would probably break.  Sure enough about the time catch dogs are near he did, and they all start moving.  We were able to call catch dogs back and got them loaded up.  About that time, we hear him settled back in about 450 yards away (still in the open field).

We once again get within range and send two catchdogs.  This time I watch them get there on the garmin and everything goes quiet.  I watch for a bit longer and they aren't moving, so I assume they've caught a good hog that isn't making any noise.  We run in that direction and when my light gets close enough I only see the bay dog and one catch dog standing there.  I'm thinking what the heck is going there a small pile of brush they're under or what?  As I get closer, I notice the two dogs only looking down...and when I get to them I discover a well in the middle of this plowed field.  Shine lights down, and to my horror there is my bulldog and a very sizeable boar doing battle about 25' down.

Needless to say, panic sets in.  Saving my dog is utmost priority at this time, and I knew that I had to kill the hog first.  I retrieved the 30-30 rifle that Jake had brought and decided I would shoot the hog.  The other guys wouldn't watch as I shot for fear I was going to kill the dog...I didn't see any other options.  I studied...trying to pick the perfect shot for what seemed like forever.  As the dog lunged back to catch a breath, I put a round in the hogs head and it immediately fell back dead.  Blood quickly stained the water, and although I felt good about the shot, I couldn't be sure that the dog wasn't injured, or hadn't been cut by the boar.  I don't know how deep the water was, but in just a minute or two the hog was out of sight.

Our attention quickly focused on getting the dog out.  Jake also had a lariat rope so we all layed around the edge of the well and lowered the rope down.  Many attempts were made to get it around the dog.  We got a leg a time or two but when we would start to pull she would slip out.  I finally got the loop close to her head and I began to call her name and call her to me.  She lunged forward in attempt to get out, and I yanked the rope and got a good tight loop around her neck.  It took three of us pulling, but we got her all the way up and out.  Short of a fingernail tear, she didn't have a scratch.  We all figured at that point we had used all our good luck for the night, so we loaded and went home.

We're going to talk with the landowner and see about putting some type of cover of the well.  That's just dangerous!

15  HOG & DOGS / GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: How to get range on a dog? on: January 28, 2016, 02:57:38 pm

I've been raising and hunting the dogs I raise for a pretty long time.  Someone posted the video below on this site a while back, and I have to admit had I seen this years ago I could have saved myself a lot of frustration.  For the most part, I agree 100% with what this guy says.

My best advice for someone trying to get a dog to hunt deep is get a pup bred that way and just don't screw it up.  Easy to shorten a dogs natural range...sometimes without even realizing what your doing.
16  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Amerigo / Big White Dogs (BWD) started by Ugly Dog Ranch (UDR) on: October 21, 2015, 09:16:07 am
I don't know of any others from the line named Mac...just the pup I gave Gentry.  None of the dogs off the bro/sis accidental cross were ever bred....unless Catch has been bred.  I believe Krystal had given him to the Holubs.

As far as starting late, that's just a product of the line of dogs.  Some of them had a little softer mouth than what I liked also.  Zeus (not saying the best) but was the HARDEST catching of all the ones I ever hunted around.  Krystal and I have had discussions and have an opinion on why that was so, and believe more of a product on how he was hunted the first year or two of his life than his actual breeding.  I've never owned even since a catchdog with a harder grip.  Zeus was also very hard headed and REALLY liked to hunt.  If a bay broke, he was HELL to get back.

Ryan...if I were looking for an outcross I would try to find the best performance bred full AB you could find.  I personally wouldn't breed ANY more Dogo in...but that's just me.
17  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Amerigo / Big White Dogs (BWD) started by Ugly Dog Ranch (UDR) on: October 20, 2015, 02:35:08 pm
I have been meaning to post to this thread for a while but just haven't had time lately. You asked if anyone else had any experience with the big white dogs.I have hunted behind 2 different dogs of this cross. My buddy Gentry Barker had a male named Mac that I'm almost positive was from Bryant Davis' Zeus dog. Mac recently passed away but was one of the best handling, nicest, and hardest hitting catch dogs I've been around. Great all around dog. He also has a female now that's about 14 months old that is getting better every time out. Her name is Rosie and she's 5/8 AB and 3/8 dogo. I think Mac was 50/50 split. Both of these dogs were and are great catch dogs with both brains and brawn. Love hunting with them. They could easily be pets they are so friendly. I have pictures of them but nothing ever posts right for me lol. If you would like more information or pictures just ask.

Mac was a nice and easy handling catchdog.  He was off an accidental brother X sister cross of Zeus and Comet.  Don't want to burst any bubbles, but out of the litter of 12 pups, only two made the grade.  Mac and his brother Catch.  I believe Catch is still alive and kicking....easy to spot had ears like Dumbo.  Mac started very slow like a lot of these dogs.  We had them going pretty good and Gentry and I went hunting one morning and only took Mac and Catch for catching.  Bayed a big boar and about got a cur dog killed when we sent them and they both got there and went to baying.  Honestly a miracle they made the trip home after that day but they eventually came online and finished out nicely.

I've raised more than a handful of these and if you're patient and don't expect too much too soon most make nice dogs.
18  HOG & DOGS / DOGS ON HOGS / Re: Pups and/or Prospects on: October 20, 2015, 02:26:31 pm
No...gave her to a guy in Thorndale that still has her though.

I also don't have any of those pups left.  I kept all but two...started them and they hunted like crazy...very rough though and didn't last terribly long.  A guy still has a female named Maggie out of that litter that is still hunting.  Only one left.
19  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Cast Hunting on: October 20, 2015, 02:16:49 pm
People always get butt-hurt when this subject comes up because they just assume when someone says they hunt a certain way that they are also saying their dogs are better because of it.

All boils down to personal preference and also the terrain your hunting.  I've caught lots of hogs behind all types of dogs, but I personally prefer the deep casting ones.  If I had land more suitable to rigging, then that's how I'd hunt but I don't.  Casting dogs are a pain in the rear most of the time and for most people who talk about wanting them, they've never spent hours in the woods trying to get them caught when they are ready to go home.  However, I am lazy and I don't feed dogs to have to move them around....AGAIN just my personal preference.

Having screwed up a lot of dogs through the years (I didn't know many hog hunters when I started so much of what I learned was through my successes and failures) I would have to almost 100% agree with that video.  Only thing I would change is start the video with "So you have a well bred pup, now here's what you do...".  I agree 100% with the guy (whoever he is) that the biggest thing when raising a pup to hunt this way is to not screw it up and undo what your breeding has done.  It's easier than you may think to take a well bred go-yonder dog and train him (without even knowing your doing it) to sniff tailpipes.
20  HOG & DOGS / HOG DOGS / Re: Bob-tailed cur dogs on: June 29, 2015, 04:36:49 pm
I fall into the....every blackmouth is born with a tail unless his grand pappy crawled in a Mt Cur or bulldogs bed down the line. Grin

I certainly didn't mean any ill will with my post, and wasn't trying to be sarcastic.  I was actually being very factual.  I'm speaking of yellow dogs specifically...every one of them (there's only one line to my knowledge that carries the bob-tailed gene) trace back to a certain cross which was told to me to be of a certain mountain cur....but that's not good for marketing so we'll just leave it at that.  The fact that they only show up in one bloodline is proof enough for me.  Traits are not created within breedings...everything expressed (phenotype) is as a result of lineage.  You can take two long tail dogs and breed them from now until the end of time and they'll never throw a bob tail....unless the trait was present in the lineage.

My name's Bryant.   (<--- That's a joke)

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