Breeding dogs...???

rrslim its funny you said never breed pedigrees, but what you just described was breeding pedigrees. i bred pits for years and pedigrees aren't an absolute to getting good dogs, but it helps to line out the traits in dogs and where your dogs come from. most of us on here know where our dogs come from and what their blood has in them so it is the same as pedigrees. i would never breed to a dog just because it has such and such dog in it.

pedigrees help you to keep things in line. like you said rrslim if you go onto pedigrees online(an apbt online pedigree site) you can pull up a stud dog and see every dog that is behind him, you can pull up ALL is offspring(that has been put into the site) and you can see what they look like and how they have performed when bred to different bloodlines. this helps you to know what blood goes best with that dog. some blood just doesn't produce very high(butcherboy/rascal) others produce at an alarming rate(jeep/rascal/redboy).

i also agree that a great stud dog will make you famous, but a great female will KEEP you famous.

i'm a ways away from trying to breed any of my females, but when i do i will SEE the stud i want hunt. then i will find out about parents and grandparents, then i will find out about his litter mates, if this all checks out i will then and only then look to his offspring. if my potential stud can't pass the first round of checks, there is no need for me to look at offspring.