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Question: Who here is USEING these dogs
Yes,I use them - 25 (45.5%)
I just sell them - 0 (0%)
I use other dogs - 17 (30.9%)
I have no use for the Ben dogs - 5 (9.1%)
Hype and promotion - 8 (14.5%)
Total Voters: 50

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Author Topic: weatherford ben bloodline?  (Read 14007 times)
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« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2009, 05:52:22 pm »

Just another point to add . . . Sometimes people tend to call any dog that is registered with the FBMCBO, and it has Ben in the pedigree a few times, they call this a Weathorford Ben dog.  However, most of the Ben bred dogs I've seen and seen their paperwork, are mixed up with other folks bloodlines too.  You will see alot of "Simms" blood, as well as "Gay" bloodline, etc. in most of those Wright bred dogs.  I had a dog on my place that I hunted for a while, I didn't own him, but hunted him and bred a couple gyps to him.  He was FBMCBO registered, and carried like 37% Ben.  But he was mainly line-bred Benson's Little Bobbie.  But I was guilty of referring to him as the "Weathorford Ben" bred dog, when in actuality, he was more other stuff than Ben.  I think people see those Foundation papers and just automatically think "BEN", Hell I was guilty of it.  Just like deuce24 said, (reference to Jeep) it may be a great grandson of Ben on the top-side, but the bottom half might be predominantly something else, and maybe a little Ben in the mix somewhere, that doesn't make it a Ben dog.  It makes it a blackmouth dog with some Ben influence in its ancestry.  People tend to forget that there are other dogs in the ancestry that could be influencing the breeding more than Ben, but because its FBMCBO, people just think BEN, the if turns out good or bad, BEN gets the credit or the blame.  I would say if you had a double grandson of BEN, and then you bred it to a double grandaughter of Ben, then you could honestly call that a BEN bred dog.  However, what if those two dogs you bred together were junk to start with?  People buy the pup, it doesn't turn out, and then they say . . . I wouldn't have a BEN dog.  Well maybe what they should have said is I wouldn't have a dog bred by "such-and-such person" because that particular individual does not test his dogs and makes junk breedings.  There are lots of people out there breeding BEN dogs, and selling BEN bred pups, who are doing nothing more than lining up percentages on pedigrees and saying, "Well I've got "such-and-such" percentage BEN in these pups, so they will be worth this much.  I owned some BEN bred dogs.  Got rid of most of them.  Some were good, some weren't.  Its really JUST THAT SIMPLE with most bloodlines.  Here is one truth . . A bloodline of dogs is ONLY as good as the man culling them.  Two people can start out with the same dogs from the same breeder and both men buy 10 puppies each and never breed off the yard.  If their breeding, testing, hunting, culling philosophies are drastically different, I promise you can come back to both those same men 10 years later and the dogs will be drastically different in the way they hunt, work, percentages turining out, etc.  And THEY BOTH HAVE THE EXACT SAME BLOODLINES ON PAPER.  There are good Ben dogs, and there are bad ones.  It really just comes down to who is buying their feed and how much they expect out of the dogs they choose to keep and breed.           
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