Message #151040

[DangerZone]

Ive seen a few bird dogs just ruint with e collars. I would only use them if the dog is jam up other than trashin on cattle and try every thing else first.   IMO dog seem to lose a bound or trust with handler and have a tendence to revolt to the behavior after the use of an ecollar (seen and have used them to force break bird dogs to retreive, then when the collar is not on in trial or they think their out of range the dog is headed to the next county in fear of getting shocked )JMO. but it will work on a hard headed stubburn dog